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October 2010
Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit you made to Template:Exoplanet has been reverted, as it appears to have removed content from the page without explanation. Special Cases Spit out your confessions,vandal 06:51, 22 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I did not remove any content. If you diff'd the edit, you would see that. It even added bytes!!! 76.66.199.238 (talk) 06:53, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. --Waldir talk 08:31, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for completing the split of List of extrasolar planet firsts with the appropriate templates & metadata! [[Image:Smiley.svg|left|62px]] Hello 76.66.199.238, Waldir has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing!
 * You're welcome. 76.66.199.238 (talk) 08:35, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Btw, I don't understand the reasoning behind this edit. The new categories don't make as much sense ans the previous ones... --Waldir talk 08:39, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I ordered it planets, lists of planets, planetary system (stars), lists of stars, and records. The sort keys were added, as this is extremes for exoplanets, exoplanet extremes for planets, planetary extremes for planetary sytems (actually, thinking about it again, "extremes" would also work), exoplanet extremes for stars, and for records. Since category exoplanets is for exoplanets, the sort key is for extremes. Since lists of planets is for lists and planets, but not just for exoplanets, the exoplanet sortkey would be appropriate. Since this is ostensibly a list of planets, and the planetary systems is for stars and planets, an exoplanet sortkey would be appropriate, since lists of stars is for stars, and this is a list of stars in subordination to its planets, the exoplanet sortkey is appropriate. 76.66.199.238 (talk) 09:20, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * In defense of Special Cases, I must say that the diff engine is quite broken indeed. I didn't realize you just switched categories that were already there, sorry. I would have the one about stars removed, since the page is about planets. What do you think about that? Also, the world record one doesn't seem quite appropriate since they're exo-, meaning precisely "out of this world" :) But maybe we shouldn't be too literal. Also, regarding the asterisk in the planetary systems category, that doesn't seem necessary (why sort the article first (in the "*" list) in that category?). Was that intentional or did it slip under your radar? --Waldir talk 09:45, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * For the record, that's as far as I'd go defending him. I mean, really? really? --Waldir talk 09:51, 22 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah... does seem to be distinctly unfriendly. I saw your comment when I noticed my thread had disappeared from his talk page, and I looked in the history to see if he left a response before deleting it. 76.66.199.238 (talk) 09:57, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * omg... --Waldir talk 10:07, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I noticed that there when I first looked on his user page. 76.66.199.238 (talk) 10:17, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, someone once said at Talk:List of extrasolar planets that it was a star list as well as a planet list. As content is similar, with stars and planets both being on the list, it is still a kind of star list. As for why use an asterisk, the other entries in that category are sorted using the asterisk, when they involve content of this kind (general lists). As for why even sort there, they are not individual planetary systems, so it would be best to place them at the beginning or end of the sortlist, with individual planetary system articles taking up the actual sort headers. There was some discussion about this many years ago at WP:AST and WP:ASTRO. As for "world records", the term world could mean universe :) (And there is no supercategory in the hierarchy tree above "world records" to put it, Earth extremes is categorized there as well) 76.66.199.238 (talk) 09:57, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Keep up the nice work. :) Btw, ever thought of creating an "astronomical extremes" navbox? Seems like there's enough material for that. --Waldir talk 10:07, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, from time to time. The extremes for galaxies is still on list of galaxies... But stars have several different lists with no "extremes" list per se, except for the extreme element on each list. 76.66.199.238 (talk) 10:17, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The navbox could include links to those sections, and not be transcluded in those generic lists. It would still be useful/interesting for the specific lists, methinks. --Waldir talk 10:21, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Just added succession boxes to UDFy-38135539, GRB 090423, IOK-1 for the most extremely distant navigation by record holder. 76.66.199.238 (talk) 10:32, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * That's a creative approach! I wouldn't have thought of that :) --Waldir talk 12:14, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps List of galaxy extremes, List of star extremes, Extremes of the Solar System should be created? It'd make the footer template easier to implement. Along with List of extrasolar planet extremes, there's Extremes on Earth.

I've used succession templates many times, so it came to me, when you brought up template navigation for extremes.

It might be useful to also have chronological list of past "extreme" titleholders, as it indicates the state of science at the time they were thought to be the extreme example of their kind. That kind of listing already occurs for least distant galaxy, most distant galaxy, most distant object, at List of galaxies and List of most distant astronomical object record holders respectively.

76.66.199.238 (talk) 07:57, 23 October 2010 (UTC)


 * List of galaxy extremes sounds reasonable, as a split from List of galaxies.
 * I'm not so sure about a List of star extremes, since there are already several specific lists (linked from Lists of stars, Lists of stars and two articles from Lists of stars: HE0107-5240 and OGLE-TR-122b). We could instead create "Lists of star extremes, and to avoid overlap, we would remove the links it includes from List of stars and add a link to the new list instead. If we do so, perhaps HE0107-5240 and OGLE-TR-122b could start their own tables there and possibly get split as well in the future if they grow large enough. Also, we could include supernova extremes, which I didn't seem to find (List of most luminous stars doesn't mention SN 2006gy or SN 2005ap, for instance).
 * Extremes of the Solar System sounds great. I recall reading years ago about Olympus Mons and Valles Marineris, and looking at those articles there doesn't seem to be a list around.
 * Chronological lists also are a great idea :)
 * Waldir talk 12:04, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Collating the star extremes into a single list may increase the usability of the information, for say, highschool projects, and it would match the existence of the other extremes lists that are already on Wikipedia. Each entry in the star extreme list would also feature a link to the list article, as a "for more information see this list" type link. There is a workpage for the chronological list of nearest star record holders at Talk:List of nearest stars/workpage.
 * Yeah... Valles Marineris - largest canyon in the Solar System, Olympus Mons - largest volcano and mountain in the Solar System... You'd find this in some atlases, so it would be good to have here. 76.66.199.238 (talk) 13:15, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I got you about the star extreme list. Do you suggest having the information in a single page and also duplicated in specific lists? I could agree with that, but at first it seems like providing great potential for desynchronization (and the resulting list could be quite large; it seems star data on Wikipedia is more abundant than for other astronomical objects). --Waldir talk 21:32, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, the same happens with Earthly extremes, as Earth has multiple lists, and the extreme member of the list also occurs at the extremes list. True, keeping the lists in sync may cause problems, but they are the same problems as occurs when a list is updated without updating the articles that go with them, or vice versa. If the update happens first at the extremes list, and then propagates the the list of a type, there would be less problems, with the see more link. Atleast the three proximity lists are unlike to change the extreme member, while we can also link back through the table entry for the most extreme member to the extremes list. (ie. entry says Most luminous star as the note on that place on the list) 76.66.199.238 (talk) 10:32, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, you've got some points there. I think we should create these pages then. I just realized, by reading the section below, that you can't create them. If you want to set up a draft, I can later move it to mainspace to preserve your contributions (I could help as well but my time is extremely limited, I'll submit my master's thesis in one week) --Waldir talk 14:10, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure thing, I'll get about doing it soon, when I have a bit of time. 76.66.199.238 (talk) 14:21, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I've started on the star list; User talk:76.66.196.13/List of star extremes. Still under construction. 76.66.196.13 (talk) 10:58, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

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Have you considered getting an account. It will prevent the whole 'changing IP addresses' problem, and give you a more solid and recognizable identity here. I think it would help WikiProject North America if you had an account listed. Just a thought. Sven Manguard Talk  08:02, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I think about it whenever I have to create multiple interlinked pages... but that's not too often... when Wikipedia removed page creation by IP editors, was when I seriously thought about it, but by that time, I'd been an IP user for a long time already. 76.66.199.238 (talk) 08:08, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I edited by IP for four years, but a combination of a desire to increase my participation, policy changes that limited IP's privileges, and a desire to be recognized by those I worked with before (the institution that supplies my internet controls several hundred IP addresses over several ranges, so I rarely had the same one twice) pushed me to make an account, about a month ago in fact. Sven Manguard  Talk  08:32, 24 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I concur with the suggestion. You seem to be very active on WP, but dynamic IPs make it difficult to contact you directy. I'd strongly encourge you to consider registering as a coutrtesy to others editors who may need to cntact you about your edits, or to seek advice from you. I addition, it allows you to gain credit for your work, as you have no easy way to prove that it was actually you who made specific IP contributions. - BilCat (talk) 20:14, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

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If you get an account or figure out a way to maintain a stable IP address, I'll give you one of my barnstars. Believe me, you've earned it, but I don't want to give a rotating IP address one, and then in a month, have someone else inherit this IP and start causing problems. I have a reputation to uphold, you know. Think of it as a shameless incentive to commit to an identity. Sven Manguard <sub style="text-shadow:#ffd700 0.14em 0.14em 0.14em"><b style="color:black;">Talk</b>  00:55, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

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