User talk:77.100.104.17

November 2020
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January 2021
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 Anonymous users from this IP address have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 month for block evasion. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 19:54, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
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The most powerful evidence is our timing COULD I HAVE POSSIBLY JUST MADE IN 13 MINUTES ???? PLEASE CHECK OUR LOCATION.

My Vamlos account. A edit made in in 20:42, 3 January 2021

While 86.163.18.75 his edit made in in 20:30, 3 January 2021

THE DIFFERENCE OF TIMING IS ONLY 13 MINUTES !!!!! There is from his location edit, I could never make it back to my location in just 13 minutes, unless I was Superman or Flashman.77.100.104.17 (talk) 07:39, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

I just found out to prove my innocence using the timing first my with account. Please don't let me be blocked for something I have nothing to do with. That guy had like hundreds of IP account why would I risk my own personal if I was him. i'm freaked out I got blocked so unjustly for this, I don't think I can sleep, this is just weird and shouldn't have happen.

Now with my IP number account 77.100.104.17 20:02 16 December 2020

While 86.163.18.75 his edit made in 20:49, 16 December 2020

THE DIFFERENCE with my IP number account is only 47 minutes aswell, longer than 13 minutes with my Vamlos account but stil impossible to accomplish. I would need at least 1 hour 16 minutes to get to his location. By Bus it takes 1 hour 16 minutes from London to Ipswitch and that's another 3-10 minutes of switching the computer and editing in the computer that means much lesser times than 13 minutes and 47 minutes. How could I possibly have made it in 13 minutes and 47 minutes anyway and I'm not including the possible traffic, it's impossible. 77.100.104.17 (talk) 07:53, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * To respond to this and only this: that information tells us only where the server is located, not where the person using it is. Yes, Enfield and Birmingham are (by British standards) light-years apart. But ... the servers used by different computers/networks could be some distance away (when I have looked up the IP my ISP has assigned me, it resolves to a town 20 miles away, for instance, and that's just the local server; sometimes based on the ads I see in response to Google searches initiated from certain retailers' websites, it thinks I live in the area my ISP is based in over 200 miles away). So, this is not the Get Out of Jail Free card* you think it is. Because I don't just think, I know, that it's eminently possible to use two different computers or providers located relatively close to each other physically that resolve to IPs much farther away, and in different directions. I'm not saying that this proves sockpuppetry, but it does not and cannot disprove the allegations.
 * * Wow, we have an article for that! Even after 15 years plugging away here, Wikipedia still surprises me
 * Daniel Case (talk) 18:38, 19 January 2021 (UTC)


 * So even 2 hour and 4 minutes difference is not enough. So I'm just going to unfairly get blocked for 1 month just because I happened to mention Uyghur an Gypsies and have a roughly similar location is enough to be at risk. While every others also mention gypsies, Uyghurs, Turks are all free to go.
 * How about a sockpuppet investigation ? I wish for it more than anyone now and I think that's hundred million times more reliable than behavioral evidence.
 * As I said below, WP:CHECK is pretty explicit: "On some Wikimedia projects, an editor's IP addresses may be checked upon their request, typically to prove innocence against a sockpuppet allegation. Such checks are not allowed on the English Wikipedia and such requests will not be granted." Daniel Case (talk) 04:37, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * So what can I do to prove I'm not doing sock evasion. What's the point Guide to appealing blocks.I read and studyd, it says one of them rules say it may require a checksuser or oversight, a oversight would be good to see I'm different to 86.163.18.75. Evidence that we are not the :::same is My English is poor, bad grammar while 86.163.18.75 English is superb level, only his answers are are somewhat unseries, and never provide links like I do, my English is poorer with many mistakes but I'm always serious.
 * I need to re-ask a question, what exactly is the evidence qualified to block me a month ? Is it  simply just for having similar (not exactly same ) IP locations. Others were blocked for only 24 hours, disruption, reverting for 1 week. So am I blocked for a month simply for having a similar IP address ? Because I wasn't the only one who mentioned Gypsies and Turks, all other wikipedia users did. Even a reduction would make me feel better because I can't believe I got blocked for 1 month for a mistake. Like there is nothing similar between me and that 86.163.18.75 except for our location he lives in Northeast London (Birminham) while I live in North London ( Enfield ) are location are not exactly the same. 77.100.104.17 (talk) 05:11, 20 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Reason for me to get heavy 1 month block is so puny, is unbelievable now that I read it again.


 * 1) I mentioned Gypsies just like 86.163.18.75 and respected editor/wiki admin > Calthinus (click)
 * 2) I unluckily logged of my vamlos account and happen to have a similar location to him with a 2 hour 4 minutes difference ( Enfield to Birmingham ), is not enough.


 * So just for that 2 reason is enough to get someone blocked for 1 long month even though I showed evidence of contradiction, timing, other user mentioning the word Gypsies, Turks, Uyghur like Hunan201p and Hzn, 3family6, Calthinus like me but all are okay.
 * Not one wiki user didn't avoid talking about Uyghurs, Turks --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Uyghurs but how unlucky I happened be 3rd one to mention gypsy after 86.163.18.75 and Calthinus, but because my account accidentally logged out, with a  similar location but still of 2h 4 min difference with that evasion block account. I now need to unfairly tolerate the block. I request a sockpuppet investigation. 77.100.104.17 (talk) 19:47, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Extreme reliable evidence to show I'm not using evasion block
I have extremely credible evidence that I'm not a sockpuppet. Please forgive me for contacting, I really just want to get out of the block because it's just so unfair. It was a mistake anyone could make, I was recently blocked 1 month just for mistakenly being 86.163.18.75 because of many behaviour evidence and even location. I now have the timing evidence showing is impossible to accomplish between me and 6.163.18.75, and is strong evidence that there is no way I could be him, it's beyond superhuman for me and that invasive user. Roysmith and, please open a sockpuppet investigation to show I'm innocent aswell if this is what it takes.

UDPATE: NEW CREDIBLE EVIDENCE

Please type both of the IP address in  ip-address-lookup-v4 https://ip-address-lookup-v4.com/lookup.php?host=ip-address-lookup-v4.com&ip=86.163.18.75&x=71&y=30

My 77.100.104.17 location city/region is Enfield / Enfield town
 * The link is here https://ip-address-lookup-v4.com/lookup.php?host=ip-address-lookup-v4.com&ip=77.100.104.17&x=62&y=33

86.163.18.75 location city/region is Birmingham
 * The link is here https://ip-address-lookup-v4.com/ip/86.163.18.75

If you go to google and type in this link enfield to birmingham it says it will take 2 hr 4 min (115.4 mi).

'''2 HOURS AND 4 MINUTES. THAT'S HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE FROM ENFIELD TO BIRMINGHAM, And the the wikipedia post between me and that sock invasive account is only 13 minutes and 47 minutes (the smallest time gap)'''

How on earth would it be possible for me to make it from Enfield to Birmingham in 13 minutes of time in our difference of edit, or just 47 minutes, keep in mind the traffic and time to switch the computer, and edit the computer would take another 10-20 minutes. Not even a superhero could accomplish this.
 * See above. I'm sorry to tell you that all that effort you put in to research and prove this point has yielded nothing with any relevance to your case. Daniel Case (talk) 18:40, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Please open a sockpuppet investigation and have others look into my investigation. Also look at 86.163.18.75 grammars, spelling they are WAY WAY WAY better than mine. I always need to correct my spelling and paragraphs with more than 10-20 edits, he only edits 2 times
 * You are essentially asking that we run CheckUser to prove your innocence. That request is futile. Per WP:CHECK: "On some Wikimedia projects, an editor's IP addresses may be checked upon their request, typically to prove innocence against a sockpuppet allegation. Such checks are not allowed on the English Wikipedia and such requests will not be granted." Daniel Case (talk) 04:35, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Cant you actually able to help me, like isn't there anything you can do ? Please answer. I read the guideline to appeal block. What is the point of it, if it can't help me. Why can't we have a oversight, someone to compare our accounts and to prove my innocents by comparing myself and this IP account 86.163.18.75 ( example our writing style, English level, topic of discussion are all entirely different).77.100.104.17 (talk) 21:14, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I think it is time for, who actually blocked you, to look over this and see if it's relevant. I have dealt so far with the logic of your requests and the relevance of your evidence but not the substance. Since I don't know about the details of the block, I am beyond answering this request anymore. Daniel Case (talk) 01:56, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
 * IP editor and I'm honestly not convinced but I've removed the hardblock. If 77.100.104.17 is indeed Vamlos, they can now log into that account. The 86.163.18.75 edits look similar, but I'm willing to assume good faith.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 02:15, 21 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Look at the talk page history and see how his English is hundred times better https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Uyghurs&diff=prev&oldid=998084649
 * Compare Vamlos/77.100.104.17 with 86.163.18.75 who's English grammars, spelling are all superb 86.163.18.75


 * I get blocked for 2 tiny reason.


 * 1) I only mentioned Gypsies just like 86.163.18.75 and respected editor/wiki admin Calthinus > Click
 * 2) I unluckily logged of my vamlos account and happen to have a similar location to him with a 2 hour 4 minutes difference ( Enfield to Birmingham ), is not enough.
 * 3) I have a different broadband, I live in Enfield, he live in Birmingham (2hrs 4 min apart by bus ), he contradicted my answers, I never replied him with my 77.100.104.17 account in talk page. I had never used any of the account to give him support and consensus support, never replied to help him and answer him. All my post almost always have science links, but he never uses it. NEVER ONCED I HELPED HIM IN ANYTHING except for mentioning gypsies. We are two completely different people. 80% of the stuff he wrote contradict my answer, I didn't bother even to write to him because he was so incorrect in most of them.77.100.104.17 (talk) 20:21, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

My Vamlos account
 * edit made in in 20:42, 3 January 2021

86.163.18.75
 * his edit made in in 20:30, 3 January 2021

My 77.100.104.17 account
 * edit made in20:02 16 December 2020

86.163.18.75 his edit made in
 * his edit made in20:49, 16 December 2020 77.100.104.17 (talk) 15:39, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

March 2021
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