User talk:77.218.224.34

Uncited claims and opinions on Gandalf
Hi, and thanks for your intention to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Middle-earth topics.

However, as you have certainly noticed, your edits have all been reverted.

There is precisely no good that can come of repeatedly trying to add the same material --- if other editors have thought it necessary to revert it, politely without issuing warnings to a newcomer, then the least you could do is to wonder why they might not think the additions appropriate.

Well, first of all, Wikipedia works entirely from reliable sources, not from editors' personal knowledge or beliefs.

Secondly, the summary of a book's plot or a book character's actions is just that, an intentionally brief summary, completely free of editorial opinion or commentary. Therefore, adding material that is in the book is usually harmful because it makes the summary longer, probably too long; and adding anything else is unacceptable, as it is off-topic for the summary and very likely non-neutral into the bargain.

Thirdly, adding anything to an article that expresses any sort of view or opinion is forbidden, unless it is a) a summary of a scholarly or critical opinion in a reliable source, and b) cited to that reliable source.

None of your additions have fallen within the remit of these basic principles, so they have all rightly been reverted.

You have already started to be somewhat disruptive by repeating your additions without prior discussion and agreement. We would all be extremely grateful if, now that the matter has been explained to you, you would stop making the additions --- or, if you genuinely think you have some point to make, then to explain that point on the article's talk page, where other editors can reply to you without further disruption to the article. Many thanks for your understanding. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:48, 24 August 2023 (UTC)


 * By the way, I do not mean to imply that you are forbidden to edit. Far from it; Wikipedia has a principle, WP:BRD, that editors may be BOLD in proposing a change, by making it: once. If someone else REVERTS it, the first editor goes to the talk page and begins a DISCUSSION of the point that they wanted to make. When consensus is reached, action may then be taken. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:06, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

August 2023
Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Gandalf, you may be blocked from editing. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:02, 25 August 2023 (UTC)