User talk:77.67.105.154

October 2023
Hello, I'm Doniago. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, The Last Emperor, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. DonIago (talk) 14:08, 9 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Doniago,
 * I'm surprised this edit was taken down so quickly.
 * Since this edit was an addition of publicly available knowledge, accessible through various websites such as blu-ray.com, caps-a-holic and the labels' websites, I couldn't think of how to properly and in a simple direct way provide "reliable sources" for all of this.
 * The 4K restoration was shown last year at Lyon Film Festival in 2.35, has been used for the Arrow release in the UK (with screencaps attesting for the 2.35 ratio here : https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Last-Emperor-Blu-ray/327942/#Review), Metropolitan in France, Eagle Pictures in Italy and soon for King Records in Japan.
 * Screencaps available at Caps-a-holic show that the 3D 2013 Italian BD was in 2.35:1 : https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a=0&d1=3411&d2=6265&s1=31419&s2=59182&i=0&l=0
 * I can try and provide sources for all of this, but as you can see, that's a bit of a collage. 77.67.105.154 (talk) 14:15, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi there IP, if you're combining sources to say something that none of the sources explicitly says on its own, that's considered synthesis and explicitly isn't allowed.
 * I see you've already updated the article. I had to remove the information sourced to caps-a-holic, as there doesn't seem to be any actual discussion there, just a listing of statistics, and I couldn't find any editorial information regarding what kind of oversight is exercised on that site. In short, I'm not sure it's a reliable source; it definitely didn't appear to support all of the information you added, in any case.
 * I've left in the information you sourced to blu-ray.com, but please be careful when using that site, as it is known to be inaccurate for release date information (which you didn't use here).
 * I should note that for reasons escaping me the article currently has both a Home media section and a Home video section; it's likely that in the future those will be consolidated; you're welcome to take the initiative to do so yourself if you're so inclined. DonIago (talk) 18:13, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I sourced to caps-a-holic since the 3D version screencaps are in 2.35:1, thus confirming this version was in this ratio.
 * I agree with you never the less on the split between Home media and Home video, it's something I don't understand either. 77.67.105.154 (talk) 12:30, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Also re. release dates : I only mentioned "2023" because the UK video releases of the new restoration are from February 2023 (something that can be checked on retailers' product webpages, but also on the various websites that reviewed the release and, finally, the PR company press release here : https://fetch.fm/arrow-video/arrow-video-the-last-emperor-on-limited-edition-blu-ray/) and the French ones from early October 2023 (that can be checked also on retailers' product webpages, the label communications about it on social networks, etc etc).
 * I've myself seen the French Blu-ray. It is in 2.35:1.
 * All this isn't so much "synthesis" than having, going this way, to source almost every words of my sentence for something that can be checked in a few minutes by going through these above sources (and I'm not going to link to, say, a DVDclassik.com's member's picture of its newly received UK release showing it was received in February 2023), but I'm not sure it'd make sense for a Wiki page to not include something that is that much of a public information. 77.67.105.154 (talk) 12:39, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I may have been unclear: I wasn't concerned with your use of blu-ray.com since you didn't use it to source a release date; I was just advising you preemptively. The other sources are fine.
 * Obviously, we can't use our own experiences to make claims in Wikipedia articles. Editors aren't reliable sources. :)
 * If we're combining information from multiple sources to make a claim, and I'm not saying we are, then that's exactly what synthesis is. If something is well-known public information, then it should be possible to find a source that directly makes the claim in question. DonIago (talk) 14:20, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * My point is that I'm not sure screencaps in the absence of supporting text are considered reliable. Photos can be manipulated, and you didn't address the other concerns I raised regarding the reliability of that source. DonIago (talk) 14:16, 13 October 2023 (UTC)