User talk:78.179.149.13

September 2023
Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to Siege of Jajce (1464), it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Thank you. Aeengath (talk) 13:07, 3 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello, I see two different events in the sources about the subject,
 * 1. According to Turkish sources: Mehmed besieged the castle, the siege lasted for a long time, when he learned that the Hungarians would gather a large army and attack, Mehmed left the siege to "Minnetoğlu Mehmed Bey" and went to attack the Hungarians, but he could not fight because of the winter. He sent Mahmud Pasha to the Hungarians and the Hungarians were defeated.
 * 2. According to some European sources:
 * Mehmed besieged the castle, the siege lasted for a long time, and Mehmed, who learned that the Hungarians would gather a large army and attack, lifted the siege by throwing the cannons into the river.
 * These are mentioned in the sources, but neither is considered a defeat for Mehmed. Because Mehmed retreated not because he was defeated or could not take the castle, but to prevent the Hungarians. If he stays there, it will be risky for the Ottomans. We can write both, I can give you the source. But the sources I will give are Turkish sources. Because I don't have many European resources, only Nicolae Jorga says that Mehmed left the Siege to "Minnetoğlu". 78.179.149.13 (talk) 01:45, 5 September 2023 (UTC)