User talk:7ten

Northern page move
This page move...

What do you mean by "reflect trading rather than legal name"? Where did you get this from? The legal name and trading name of the company is Arriva Rail North Ltd. By changing it you have also broken the citation in the first sentence, as the Companies House page has no mention of Northern.

"Northern", confusingly, represents three things:
 * The generic name of the franchise, independent of who currently operates it, e.g. "Arriva has won the bid for the Northern franchise".
 * The brand used by both Northern Rail, and from 1st April, Arriva Rail North, for this franchise, such as on trains, posters, websites.
 * Informal name of the company (both old and new)

However the proper name of the new Train Operating Company is definitely Arriva Rail North, so for clarity that is probably what the page should be called, however if you are arguing for using commonly known name then Northern Rail will also need to be moved, as that used the Northern brand too. --Jameboy (talk) 21:05, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Reply at Talk:Northern Rail. 7ten (talk) 02:20, 31 March 2016 (UTC)


 * My apologies, it seems I was misinformed. Northern it is. --Jameboy (talk) 22:14, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Category:Railway stations served by Northern
Hi, I see that you created and  as soft redirects, and have also been altering the categories on pages. This is not how a category rename should be done - it breaks attribution, for one thing. Instead, please undo your edits and follow the instructions at WP:CFDS concerning speedy renaming. -- Red rose64 (talk) 08:02, 4 April 2016 (UTC)