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Articles related to Catalonia and relations within the Spanish state
Hello there. It seems you are really determined to get your own particular political point of view across. You seem to have quite a bee in your bonnet about Catalonia, and also Aragon, which appears to be where you are from. I would encourage you to think about the neutrality of your comments before making changes. Also, and I would like to put this as nicely as possible, if you have the opportunity to do so it might be worthwhile to ask a native speaker of English to review some of your changes before making them. --Bcnviajero 17:50, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

I think my comments are Neutral. Or I do try to be as Neutral as possible, although I don't believe anyone can be 100%neutral, as I'm absolutley sure you're not. As for the style, you are absolutely right, but I'd rather make sure it says something neutral (instead of what it actually said, which was absolutley right, but forgot somethings it should have said to get a better picture) Well, I really must say I felt quite offended, but you're probably right, well you're very clearly left-wing, but right to complain. What is it you think wasn't neutral about what I said? And by the way, realted to the title: -Why spanish state, and not Spanish Nation, or Kingdom of Spain? -Why Catalonia is simply catalonia, and not the Autonomous Comunitie of Catalonia, after all Spain in the title, isn't simply Spain, but the Spanish State? if I had named it:

Articles related to the Autonomous Comunitie of Catalonia and other relations within the Spanish Nation
isn't that neutral too? What is it you think wasn't neutral about what I said?

And as for the statute lately aprooved. It says in the Preamble, that the Parliament of Catalonia has defined it as a Nation. I t doesn't even say it's a nation, nor that the parliamnet of Spain has said it is such. Not that it matters now all the Autonomous Comunities are going to have something in their Statute with the word Nation on it. "El Parlamento de Cataluña, recogiendo el sentimiento y la voluntad de la ciudadanía de Cataluña, ha definido de forma ampliamente mayoritaria a Cataluña como nación" "The parliament of Catalonia, representing the feeling and will of the citizens of Catalonia, has defined with vast majority Catalonia as a Nation" The translation isn't perfect, but it's at least accurate and neutral. It later says that the constitution refers to it by saying there are various Nationalities in the Spanish Nation. If the constitution, would have refered to it it would have said so in a clear way. If it doesn't say Nations, it's for a reason. I think, all that I said was true and accurate, I hope you will be as kind as too tell me if I have misread the constitution, or I've got something wrong. Having said that, I think Catalonia is a beautyfull place, Barcelona is nicer than Madrid, I know many very nice people from there, and I hve nothing against Catalans and Catalonia in general.