User talk:82.156.228.219

Hello, and thanks for your contributions. Unfortunately, the link you added to Kiss seems a bit like spam, and I've removed it. Please do not add commercial links, links to your own private websites, or unnecessary links to Wikipedia. Even if your link features a product or service directly related to the topic of the article, Wikipedia is not a business directory, a vehicle for advertising, or a collection of external links. You are welcome to add content instead of links to the encyclopedia, provided it is in keeping with our guidelines. If you feel the link should be added to the article please suggest it on the article's talk page, or drop me a line and we can discuss it. See the welcome page to learn more about contributing to Wikipedia. Thanks, and happy editing! Kafziel 12:57, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
 * How do I contact you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.156.228.219 (talk • contribs) \


 * You can leave a message right here; I'm watching. Kafziel 13:10, 2 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The addition is not spam, by a long shot. The website of the NVSH isnt a private website, nor is it commercial. NVSH, Nederlandse Vereniging voor Sexuele Hervorming is one of the foremost dutch governmentally sponsored institutions which promotes sexual liberation. In this capacity they promote good education, from a liberal perspective. If you take the effort to have a look at the page you'd see they do so, with neither commercial or arbitrary standards. I've looked at wikipedia standards and am positive this one fits right in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.156.228.219 (talk • contribs)


 * An important requirement for adding external links is that they must provide unique information that could not possibly be added to the article itself. This does not. Furthermore, I see nothing to indicate that this is a "governmentally sponsored" site. It is a commercial website, maintained by a commercial company. There's even a nice little link to tell you how you can support them. The first point (unique information) is the most important, but the second is why I gave you the spam warning I did. Kafziel 19:25, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I see that you have put the link in again, despite the fact that another editor also removed it. I've explained why it should not be in the article. Please stop putting it back in. That goes for the many other articles you have added unnecessary links to, as well. Further additions of linkspam will be considered vandalism, and I'd rather not do that. Kafziel 12:06, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Here it must conclude that wikipedia is falling apart as a concept. I have abundantly made clear that the NVSH is most certainly not a commercial site, but a government sponsored organisation for the education of healthy sexuality. I urge you to immediately look at this page: http://www.nvsh.nl/us/want.htm and determine the veracity of this claim. The addition about kissing has just as much right to be on the page as indicated - in fact the other four links can be interpreted as being a lot more frivolous. I noticed other additions I made a long time ago were not edited, which suggests a severely arbitrary and capricious editing mechanism on your part. This is objectionable and not consequent with the mission statement of wikipedia. You arbitrarily editing away a contributing link amounts to sensorship and would very much like to hear reasonable arguments why the link should not be added.
 * The word "government" is nowhere on that page. There is nothing to indicate that it is anything but a commercial organization.
 * My reasons for removing it have already been explained above. You chose to ignore them and put the link back in anyway. Another editor recognized them as spam as well, and removed it. Then you put it back in again. I removed it. You put it back. I am removing it for the last time, and if you put it in once more you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia for violating the Three Reverts Rule. Please do not let it come to that. Kafziel 12:48, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I propose you study the NVSH site and determine if the information it provides is applicable for addition in this or other parts of Wikipedia, as I am clearly not able to make a worthwhile contribution (i.e. "censored"). The NVSH claims to be a key source in providing sexual education. If this organisation is intentionally excluded from contribution to Wikipedia, then who can make a meaningful contribution? Please let me know in what wikipedia entries the NVSH could make a meaningful contribution or let me know where I can make additions to that effect that are not subject to arbitrary censorship. I am hopeful wikipedia has become a widely consulted edifice of information based on fair democratic principles and I am positive you and your ruling elite cadre of co-editors will take all steps to make sure you can make an informed decission whether or not NVSH makes a meaningful contribution to sex education.