User talk:86.147.201.240

Welcome!
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions&#32;so far. I hope you like the place and decide to stay.

Here are some links to pages you may find useful:
 * Contributing to Wikipedia
 * Tutorial
 * How to edit a page and How to develop articles
 * Simplified Manual of Style

You don't have to log in to read or edit articles on Wikipedia, but if you wish to acquire additional privileges, you can simply  [ create a named account] . It's free, requires no personal information, and lets you:
 * Create new pages and rename pages
 * Edit semi-protected pages
 * Upload images
 * Have your own watchlist, which shows when articles you are interested in have changed

Note that in order for the first three features to be available, you must have had an account for a certain number of days and made a certain number of edits.

If you edit without using a named account, your IP address (86.147.201.240) is used to identify you instead.

I hope that you, as a Wikipedian, decide to continue contributing to our project: an encyclopedia of human knowledge that anyone can edit. If you need help, check out Questions, or you can  to ask for help on your talk page, and a volunteer should respond shortly. We also have an intuitive guide on editing if you're interested. By the way, please make sure to sign and date your talk page comments with four tildes (&#126;&#126;&#126;&#126;).

Happy editing! I dream of horses If you reply here, please ping me by adding to your message (talk to me) (My edits) @  17:51, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

List of cat breeds
Hello, I'm SMcCandlish. Your recent edit to the page List of cat breeds appears to have added incorrect information, so it has been removed for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you.

In particular, please stop inserting disproved or dubious claims, e.g.:


 * That the Pixie-bob is a hybrid; this has been conclusively disproved with genetic testing.
 * That the Bengal is derived from Siamese; we have no reliable sourcing that suggests this.
 * That the modern Persian is a cross between original Persian (which out-crossed to Turkish Angora), the Exotic Shorthair, and the Himalayan; the latter two developed  the Persian (and the modern one at that – it's why they have peke face). The modern Persian is a progressive mutation just like the modern Siamese; the peke face mutation appeared spontaneously in the Persians in the 1950s and was selective bred and made more extreme from then on.  Anyway, modern Persians may have been outcrossed to  but we have no reliable sourcing at Persian cat that suggests this, and the breeding rules of most registries would have flat-out prohibited it long before the 1950s because it was not just a well-established breed but an ancient natural one (aside from some early confusion and crossing with Angora).

Some other bits:


 * "Crossbreed" not an adjective, only a verb and a noun. Describing something as "crossbreed hybrid" is ungrammatical. "Crossbred hybrid" is both grammatical and accurate. ("Hybrid crossbreed" would be grammatical but ambiguous; implying hybridization of crossbreeds rather that crossbreeding with hybrids).
 * The of the Ragdoll is the behavior mutation. It would not exist as a breed without it, being otherwise just a mutt of uncertain actual progenitors.  The only reason it was every accepted as a breed by anyone (under any name) is the measurably different behavior, which breeds true.
 * Perfold is spelled both ways; per MOS:CAPS, we never use a capital letter unless reliable sources do it consistently, and that is not the case with "PerFold". That spelling is just marketing stylization preferred by some breeders.
 * We don't capitalize "original" as a descriptor (it's "original Birman", not "Original Birman"; no formal breed is named that). The only parts of names of cat varieties that get capitalized are those found in the breed name in the standards (thus "Siamese cat" but "Norwegian Forest Cat").
 * Wikipedia never uses things like "???" to indicate uncertainty. This is not a blog but a reference work. If we are not certain of the alleged information, we do not include it. Certain means having reliable sources for it (either in the article at hand or in one that's linked to from it for the same facts; preferably in both, though the list article needs work in that regard.) Sometimes iffy information is retained with a  tag, but only temporarily when we think it probably is correct and that a source can be found for it quickly.

Lest this sound entirely critical: It that our Birman now isn't the original (though it was outcrossed with Persian, too, not just Siamese; I've added that).

Your enthusiasm for the list article is appreciated, but that page is just a summary of what our real breed articles say. It must stay in synch with them (see WP:POVFORK). For example, if you're certain that the Bengal had Siamese ancestry, then you'll need to find reliable and independent sources that confirm this, and add that fact to the Bengal cat article with the sources for it. Then we can summarize this finding in the list. (This is part of Wikipedia's WP:SUMMARY style: we work to source the details in the main page on something then summarize it in list articles and in overview articles that branch out to subtopics). Ensuring our articles do not contradict each other is important.

PS: I encourage you to create an actual login account here, and participate in WP:WikiProject Cats, where we centralize the management of the cat articles. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  11:01, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Uncited changes to taxoboxes in Planulozoa and other articles
Hi, I notice you have made a large number of unexplained and uncited (please see the Wikipedia policy on verifiability for why this matters) changes to taxoboxes in various zoology articles.

You should be aware that other editors tend (for better or for worse) to assume that uncited changes made by "IP" users without login accounts are unreliable, mistaken, or simple vandalism. It looks to me as if you have some knowledge of zoology and taxonomy, but all the same, editors are not allowed to make changes based only on personal knowledge as this cannot be verified. It would, as mentioned in the section above, be far better if you registered an account, or cited your changes to reliable sources. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:49, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

July 2018
Hello, I'm Chiswick Chap. I noticed that you made one or more changes to an article, Flatworm, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. ''Please do not make uncited changes to phylogeny or other article sections. Reliable sources must be cited. '' Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:46, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

edit war
Your recent editing history at Taxonomic rank shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you don't violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.-- Kev min  § 14:56, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Edit wars 2, and 3
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on List of cat breeds and List of experimental cat breeds. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  17:13, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  17:44, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

July 2018
Anonymous users from this IP address have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for persistently making disruptive edits. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Courcelles (talk) 17:55, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * If this is a shared IP address and you are an uninvolved editor with a registered account, you may continue to edit by logging in.