User talk:86.87.212.214

January 2018
Hello, I'm Shellwood. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —the one you made with this edit to Kebab— because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Shellwood (talk) 21:53, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
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You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Mangal (barbecue). --IamNotU (talk) 18:11, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Anonymous users from this IP address have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for persistently making disruptive edits. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Ad Orientem (talk) 01:19, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
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There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is IP editor 86.87.212.214 - long-term disruptive editing, no communication.. IamNotU (talk) 01:34, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Hello
there has been a mistake. There is some story made up here about some stuff. I edited only a while ago barbeque mangal and kabab. because i saw that kabab is persian, i did see this in 2014 it was noted that the name was persian root then they had changed it indeed i had reverted it to the old version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasper2018 (talk • contribs) 01:42, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

i dont know what it exactly is. never been to nationalistic things or removing any ones heritage wich i really respect!. its a misunderstanding i reverted the old kabab into something old from 2014. i myself think its really akadian persian orgin but thats up to you to deside i had readed a story about a sword or something that the old persian used to make kabab in babylon on the page well whatever you want to mention you do but really 2014 version seemed a bit diffrent when i readed it. . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasper2018 (talk • contribs) 01:43, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

i dont think its right what is mentioned there its tottaly mistake
What is mentioned there is not right. Its not true misunderstanding. im not really busy with wikipedia. as you see as i said i had seen indeed the kabab story in 2014 i wanted to revert it. Baklava too was written tottaly diffrent in 2014 i wished it was like this. i saw today something too corrected it. but its up to you. so this is a response from what wikipedia wanted — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasper2018 (talk • contribs) 01:46, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

i had edited some things because they had used to be like that
I had not argued between those people i think we might agreed if i had agreed and talked to them had not much time. the next time when i edit those i will Argue and talk with those. But i dont understand the person that wrote those things about my ip adress he made a mistake its a total misunderstanding the main page of wikipedia i nearly didnt edited anything only 5-6 things in tottal maybe. there about a some making own enclopydia. No way sir i believe that wikipedia is one of the best Enclopydia in the whole world i learned allot from it Many that is written here is right. I like i said never had any Nationalistic or whatever. I will tell you this I respect all of those people and as you see what you wrote on the page isnt tottaly right. if you look the old pages in old date i tried to revert it to those days when i had readed it. along time ago Around 2014/2015. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasper2018 (talk • contribs) 01:59, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Shellwood
user shellwoord: Ofcourse i will use the sandbox from now on we will talk about it. but shellwood look at the old version of kabab looked really like that. thanks i doesnt have to be edited if its according right to you i thought it would be a better person editing that.and bring it back to what it used to be in 2014 when i had read it.

indeed the writer noted that some would have been right the person who reported it
I saw it i thought lets change it to the way it used to be when i read it. It's really that way. but if its up to you writers you decide. i saw it i said huh i readed it that way what has been changed so i had reverted it. I never would have be a nationalistic about those things me indeed would agree with you on facts wich you mentioned.

Love and peace to you! your way of keeping it you decide. i indeed had not seen the block.and next time we will argue about it before the edit

noted this:
I suppose it must be assumed they're editing in good faith, however misguided, rather than vandalizing. my response:

it was some things i edited indeed i tried my best and edited in the best way and what i really used to have read before.

allot of love and respect to you wikipedia people you do a great job educated us all. thank you and allot of love i indeed had not seen the block myself. i tried to make it better with the kabab and the other one
 * Jasper: I do not think your English is good enough for you to contribute here. Sorry. Drmies (talk) 02:39, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Jasper: I do not think your English is good enough for you to contribute here. Sorry. Drmies (talk) 02:39, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Okay. Please Remove my ip address. From that page. thank you

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasper2018 (talk • contribs) 12:35, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

next time For editing I will Argue with a administrator of a page. English Skills
Next time For editing I will Argue with a administrator of a page. like i already have mentioned : i indeed have no time to revert.i loved to do it but rather not. It's up to you to keep your Wikipedia real and Original. The mother language what we speak in our country is Slightly different with english Since both are a Germanic Language .The word Kabab is spelled like that way for thousands of years in that region especially Under the various achaemenid& Sassanid and Parthian dynasty's and might have Mesopotamian or even Sumerian Orgins. So let's keep it real I again Say its up to you to keep your wikipedia real and i admire the work of most wikipedians Especially the old times.i would like to see also my Ip address being removed from the complaining page wich is really not necessary to mention my ip Address.

thank you. as you have seen Most of Work i had reverted I explain it: I have not reverted/edited myself those existed before they had been edited and they been there for years Such as kabab It  was  A persian word in orgin atleast it was borrowed from Persian wich Persian might have borrowed it from Sumerian  or other ancient people it was a royal food time of the achaemenids might had Mesopotamian Orgins it was mentioned there: that when the had founded they the ottomans had found the cooking book of baghdad wich and indeed baghdad has a Persian name also in orgin: they Took the word kabab from that book there and the they said the name was Borrowed from Persian. the Persian language had borrowed it from Aramaic directly and Not Arabian Since Persian and Aramaic are much Before arabic and widely Aramaic was called Imperial Aramaic in the empires. i had seen those things there and edited those back when it was correct in 2014 for example there cannot be a page so much diffrent Compare the Old 2014/2015 to now you see those Persian things and many other things Removed and instead They have Put Arabian and other story's instead of it if you compare it i hope you do. its up really to you wikipedians to decide. I will not revert/ or correct anything anymore Since i do not have time for it and it is not accepted by some of those who have put some other Type of Related story's  in it. And I hope out of respect my Ip address is removed from there instead I hope the name Jasper is used. the point was to make it correct the way i have educated myself.

Allot of respect to the wikipedians thank you.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasper2018 (talk • contribs) 12:53, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

When it rains, it pours... The "it wasn't me" defence would be easier to believe, despite the close resemblance of the earlier edits, if 86.87.212.214 was a dynamic IP from Iran, rather than a (normally fixed) IP from KPN in the Netherlands.[17] Also, compare these edits, one from last October, and the one from yesterday: [18] / [19]. --IamNotU (talk) 13:14, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

This ip Is from the netherlands. It rains indeed. for you .are you really that ignorant to think that this ip is from the middel east. This ip is from Holland and im asking that my ip address becomes removed Instead use my name ,. Indeed Turanians were a iranic People(indo-european)  .But the name of babylonia has nothing to do with a Turanian name or race wich has been edited and put by someone from turkey. Since babylonians are Sumerians/Akadians/assyrians.kassites and gutians and later Medes and Persians became intermixed and all others with them Etc and not Turanian(old Iranic Indo-europeans according to Ferdowsi and the shahname who first mentioned the name Turan wich is nearly the same as Iran as he mentions that fereydoun was both there ancestors.  Someone had putted might have been from Turkey that had done that to claim Babylon as something diffrent Ofcourse that will not work  babylon is a old city and old place.But claiming it as something else and then putting a Nationalisic Grey wolf idea behind  it form turkey is Not right. Turanians were a iranic people in orgin. and have nothing to do with babylon. babylon have been later Mixed much with The other Empires as acheamenids ,sassanids,parthians. as other population intermixed etc.

For this Person. This is A Ip address from Europe. and not somewhere in Asia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasper2018 (talk • contribs) 13:58, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

keep it calm
To the one who said the ip adress: when it rains it pours or whatsoever

I wanted to correct it.as you have seen you are using this as excuse. Claiming that the ip is from somewhere in Asia no its not its from holland And its me Wat bedoel je azie? I will tell you something the point here is about real information right. And those what i have seen i reverted to what it used to be or corrected what i have read and i think if you take a look at it all of you will agree with it only the ones who are not real for reading or giving information Like the kabab story same if you really look at the old version and compare it to the new one you would see there is too much differences. Even the page of Babylon was harmed. by them. making story's that have no real sources. Like i said its up to you to keep your wikipedia Real and its information real so that people can keep educating.

I hope those who have agressive behaviour  towards a few things i had reverted remain calm and So called conspiracy wich are totally false will not work sir. Wikipedians if you want to keep your wikipedia real you have to pay attention to this errors. i had not much time to mention what the real problem was i thought you people would you self pay attention and see those errors. Also im asking to remove my ip adress from there and use my name. and as i said i have no time anymore to edit so its up to yourselves. read what i wrote before

Peace and love and respect if you try to contact me try to keep it calm otherwise i will not pay attention thank you we are after all humans and not animals.