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„Ehe im Schatten“ und auch „In jenen Tagen“
Willkommen, Cambridge. Wie geht's?

Thank you for both of those additions.

You did a good job of following the available paradigms, but you made a couple of mistakes.


 * 1) The flag you copied was outdated; I have fixed that thrice.
 * 2) . That is used in the case of a co-production where the language could be unclear to someone. Here, it's a German film, ergo, Elk (unsubtle Monty Python reference).
 * 3) Sort template. Your syntax sort|Last|Marriage ensures that "Marriage" will be sorted under L, for "Last". How idiosyncratic. In this case, the title does not even begin with "The", so no override of any natural sort order is required. Nicht wahr?

To be continued ... Varlaam (talk) 18:33, 21 June 2012 (UTC) (Kanada)

Thanks, I was unsure as to syntax so got things mixed up. I'll add a few more films to the list as quite a few are missing - esp. from my research field of post war German cinema.

There are some mistakes in the list I should like to correct. Morituri was the given title of Arthur Brauner's film in German, the Austrian title was 'Freiwild'. It was not however the first film made in Germany about the Holocaust. That would be the Film made by Becker and Fredersdorf in Yiddish, German and Polish called "Lang ist der Weg" also released in 1948 and premiered at the Leopoldspalast in Munich.

I should also sign in with an account. -I'm Letjat.


 * Letjat? Like "Letyat Zhuravli", the Soviet film?
 * "Morituri" is from the familiar sentence in Latin "Morituri te salutamus." There are two films called "Morituri" so I marked one of them.
 * "Freiwild" is in the German language. Natürlich. is a language marker, not a nationality marker. A nationality would be 🇦🇹.
 * You're attending the University? And coming from where?
 * Varlaam (talk) 01:59, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

... continuing from earlier
"Racial oppression and Suicide in Nazi Germany."

That is more of a tag line. We are not trying to entice people into a cinema by creating an aura of mystery. We are just providing facts, not promotion, so I altered that one.

"Racial"? The Nazis hated the Pygmies? It doesn't need to be allusive or provocative.

You changed: The first post-1945 German film about the war. to: First German film to show a concentration camp.

Those are not mutually exclusive; they could both be there. Is there a reason to eliminate the first?

Also, I know you followed the existing convention here, which is not to provide a citation. Bad. (This page had no moderator for several years.)

There needs to be a citation there. Book, p. nn.

That is a failing of the page at present, that there is this wild set of claims, some of which may be true, but how can anyone tell?

Regards, Varlaam (talk) 17:44, 26 June 2012 (UTC) (Muddy York, Upper Canada) [We are currently "celebrating" our conquest by the US Army 200 years ago around here.]

response
Of course I am new to this, and have likely made countless errors.

The first post-1945 film about the war is arguably the first post-war German film, Wolfgang Staudte's inaugral DEFA production "Die Mörder sind unter uns" in 1946 which features a set of flashbacks (witnessed as a psychotic episode, then as an aural montage and culminating in a visual account) of the murder of civilians in Poland on Christmas eve in 1942. Alas I don't have too much time to devote to the wiki page - I was just bothered to see the paucity of entries on my research period. Yes, I am a PhD finalist at Cambridge working on German Cinema from 1946-1949. I will try and fix the issues you highlighted when I get the time. best, DJW