User talk:867xx5209


 * Also, I've replied to your message at my talk page. – Luna Santin  (talk) 00:54, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Comment moved from Talk:Gary Coull

 * As was pointed out by on Talk:Jing Ulrich, comments like these do not belong in articles, so I have moved my reply to your personal attack against me from Talk:Gary Coull to here on your talk page in user space. &mdash; 19:24, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

-- Quite the contrary ... see User talk:72.75.70.147/sockpuppets for my documentation of your (collective) hidden agenda to use Wikipedia for promoting (a) the identity of an article's subject, and (b) a book written by their spouse ... I'm not the one censoring their own talk page in an attempt to hide warnings about previously deleted articles, or using multiple accounts to edit the same page within minutes of each other.

If you had bothered to read either this or this, you would already know that my DSL IP address changes at random intervals, and that I make a conscious effort to keep them associated, so don't accuse me of trying to "hide".

FYI, the Administrators already know my real identity, and can view photographs of my late father shaking hands with with Bill Clinton at the White House on separate occasions in 1994 and 1997 on some of my web pages (as well as with other US Presidents), but I don't considered him to be notable enough for a Wikipedia article ... and I am not just "some computer admin type" ... I was using ARPANET in 1976 (had you even been born yet?), so if you do a Google search on just my first name, over half of the first ten pages returned are mine, with the first one being my resume (with my home address and telephone number), which is one of the reasons why I now make my contributions here using just an IP account ... for over a decade I've had photographs of myself with science fiction celebrities like Isaac Asimov and Patrick Stewart on one of my websites, which predates even having the word for "blog," but I know that I don't meet the notability guidelines, so I've never asked anyone to create an article about me. (Most of what has been published about me was in lesser known journals and such from the early 1980s, many of which are no longer in circulation, but the OCR scans of them on my own website are sufficient notoriety for my ego, anyway. :-)

I am actively working to try to slow down the hasty deletion processes, as witness the boilerplate warning on this page (how's that for "language skills"?) ... one such as this was placed on as well, but as you can see by the logs, this is the second time that it has been deleted for failure to satisfy the Notability (organizations and companies) guideline ... all I can do is flag them, but someone with sysop privileges actually makes the decision to delete them, and the message on the deleted talk page did ask the deleting admin to notify you and explain their reasons, so it's not my fault if they did not.

Yes, I may initiate a review, but it is a Consensus opinion that decides their fate, so don't blame me if the subjects of your articles lack sufficient Notability, although you can blame my OCD for raising flags when you keep putting things out there to show up on my radar ... BTW, I would much rather spend my time making constructive contributions (like creating protocols and template warning messages like the one below) than dealing with vanity issues like you keep creating, especially when they come back for the second time in less than a month! (If you had only waited 60-90 days, I probably wouldn't have noticed, but a redlink turned blue again, and it caught my attention.) &mdash; 13:47, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Personal attacks
Regarding your recent comment on Talk:Gary Coull: "The 'editor' aka vandal, currently known as 72....147, is probably some computer admin type with access to multiple IP addresses but few formal responsibilities to occupy his/her time and not much useful in the way of content or language skills to contribute to Wikipedia."

Allow me to direct your attention to No personal attacks, specifically, Consequences of personal attacks ... consider this your first and final warning.

As you should be aware by now (since I had to point it out to you, although it was there for anyone to read), that (a) I use only one IP address at a time, until a power failure resets either my DSL modem or the switch at the central office, after which it changes (at some random interval anywhere from less than 100 hours to over four weeks), and (b) my reasons for not using a registered user name are already known to, and accepted by, the Wikipedia Administrators, so I suggest that you don't go there!

Since you are so quick to ask the admins to review my edit history, here are just a few examples of what they will find:


 * Talk:Kathryn Janeway
 * Talk:Vanessa L. Williams
 * Talk:Stepin Fetchit
 * Talk:Magical negro

That's simply documenting the changes I made; I'll leave it to you to find the actual before and after edits ... what have you got to show for yourself that hasn't been deleted or reverted?

Some of those contributions are from older IP addresses that you did not uncover (a blind man could have found the ones that you did, since I clearly identified them!), but I believe that these few examples are sufficient to refute your allegation of "not much useful in the way of content," and the essays to which I directed your attention on Talk:Gary Coull should provide proof of my "language skills," because now that those other User:Pulrich articles have been deleted by Consensus (including the previous incarnation of Jing Ulrich before he requested that it be deleted), you can no longer see the spelling and grammar mistakes that I corrected while still operating from a misplaced "assumption of good faith on the part of inexperienced editors."

You really have No Idea of who you are dealing with, or just how much out of your own league you are, so I suggest that you just back off before I ask for an intervention ... you should already see what is happening with Deletion review/Log/2007 June 23, and I can't imagine that you'll find satisfaction in any of the other forums, such as Suspected sock puppets or Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents ... just look at some of the current cases, and then try to imagine which of us would come out of either of them in better shape than the other. &mdash; 19:07, 23 June 2007 (UTC)


 * OK,, you have finally crossed the line with your most recent personal attacks against me that you posted on Deletion review#CLSA and on Talk:Jing Ulrich ... I have left messages for you on the various sock/meatpuppet accounts that you have been using the past few days, but you have not responded there, or on my user page (which changed just a few hours ago, BTW, courtesy of a momentary power outage) ... you have left me no recourse except to file this report on Suspected sock puppets ... good luck defending yourself. &mdash;72.75.85.234 14:01, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Please refrain from making comments that can be perceived as personal attacks against any editor, even if you disagree with their editing. Thank you for your anticipated cooperation. Newyorkbrad 21:22, 26 June 2007 (UTC)