User talk:87.77.62.147

July 2022
Hello, I'm Hey man im josh. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Mate choice, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:37, 14 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello Hey man Im josh,
 * I sadly do not know the exact side and I cannot find it but as far as I know, the difference in humans as a pair bonding species only lies in short-term mating. For short-term mating, women are choosier because from an evolutionary perspective they would have the only parental investment. For long-term mating, though, women and men are equally choosy as men provide equal parental investment by, from an evolutionary perspective, providing resources and committing to that one women. Because they can, therefore, not take care of other women at the same time, they need to be choosy. Monogamy = Bi-parental care = equal parental investment = equal selectiveness
 * Source from Anne Campbell, A Mind of Her Own
 * Men, under monogamy, are as choosy as women and high on their list of desirable qualities comes fidelity—which he can only estimate by the ease with which other men have gained sexual access in the past.
 * The difference in sexual dimorphism likely mostly comes from short-term mating, in which women go for quality (choosy) and men go for quantity (promiscuous).
 * That's why I think it is important to speak
 * A. of obligatory parental investment when talking about pregnancy and breastfeeding because parental investment can also mean providing resources (like in gibbons, highly monogamous, little short-term mating, similar parental investment)
 * and to
 * B. say that if there is equal commitment and equal parental investment in long-term bond, men and women are equally selective in mate-choice because the cost is equally high Tim Henri Brünnel (talk) 14:07, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I've found it. Page 213, A Mind of Her Own, Anne Campbell
 * You can find it under google books if you copy and paste this: Men, under monogamy, are as choosy as women and high on their list of desirable qualities comes fidelity—which he can only estimate by the ease with which other men have gained sexual access in the past. with her name
 * I think that should be good enough to argue for this from above:
 * For long-term mating, though, women and men are equally choosy as men provide equal parental investment by, from an evolutionary perspective, providing resources and committing to that one women. Because they can, therefore, not take care of other women at the same time, they need to be choosy. Monogamy = Bi-parental care = equal parental investment = equal selectiveness
 * That's basically what I wrote in the beginning on the Wikipedia page.
 * And David Buss said something similar about same selectiveness in (at least when truly meant and not deceived) long term sexual relationships and that the difference only hits in in short-term mating but I cannot find that.
 * Regards, Tim Tim Henri Brünnel (talk) 14:28, 14 July 2022 (UTC)