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Happy editing! Dash77 (talk) 21:57, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

2022 Italian presidential election
People are not always consistent, including on Wikipedia, in how they use terms such as "simple" or "absolute" majority. In this case my intention was to indicate that starting on the fourth ballot the majority must be both simple and absolute to win. By a "simple" majority I meant 50%+1, not two-thirds. By an "absolute" majority I meant a majority of all eligible voters, not just of all voters who cast valid ballots--so if some abstains, casts an invalid ballot, etc, it effectively counts the same as voting against any particular candidate. Since, as noted, different people use these terms differently, I won't change your edit--as some people do use the terms in the same way you do--but just wanted to clarify that I did indeed mean that the majority had to be both simple and absolute as I use the terms. Dash77 (talk) 21:57, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I understood what you were trying to say with "simple absolute majority", and I considered leaving it as it is, but the more I read it, the more it just seemed a bit confusing and perhaps unintentionally contradictory. That is why I added the link to the Wikipedia article for the term "absolute majority", just to see where it would lead to. And it turns out that it leads directly to the section of the article which highlights "absolute majority" as meaning 50% + 1 vote (of all eligible members of a certain body, in this case an electoral college). The main issue I have with mixing the terms "absolute" and "simple" is that in some countries presidents can indeed be elected by a "simple" majority (as in "relative" majority of all eligible members, but at the same time an "absolute" majority of members who decide to cast a vote). For example, in Germany the president is elected by a Bundesversammlung (an electoral college made up of MPs and representatives from federal states - so in many ways similar ot Italy). In the first two rounds a candidate needs an "absolute" majority of 50% + 1 (including both abstentions and those who decide not to show up to vote), while in the third (and final) round, a candidate needs a "simple" majority (one vote more than the runner-up). In theory this means that a candidate needs to only vote for himself, and everyone else can abstain, and he would be elected - by a majority of 1 to 0, and with a turnout of 1. 93.138.72.82 (talk) 00:15, 27 January 2022 (UTC)