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Happy editing! KylieTastic (talk) 13:11, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Karen Morgan, comedian (March 31)
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KylieTastic (talk) 10:23, 31 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Kylie, thank you for reviewing my submission. I am confused because I supplied 4 external, secondary sources that she really is a comedian. I did not want to make the posting an advertisement or a billboard or a promotion so I did not provide links to her shows and specials nor did I provide links to her future shows. Nor did I want to express an opinion.
 * What more do I have to provide to prove that she is 1) real, 2) a comedian 3) Worthy of a wikipedia article.
 * I was looking to see if there was any relationship between Leanne Morgan and Karen Morgan who share many attributes, (both attractive, southern, major college graduates, comedians that do clean, intelligent, inciteful observational comedy well. I was very surprised that there was not an existing article about her and wanted to get something started that others could build on. I was not trying to be comprehensive, I do not have the time.
 * Is the problem that four references not enough? there are dozens available. How many should I provide. Or is the quantity sufficient but the four provided are defective? I could see the first and fourth being disqualified as not being sufficiently independent but the second and third seem to me to be very independent.
 * Thank you for any insight that you can share. 96.60.2.237 (talk) 12:24, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi, they are not "4 external, secondary sources". [1] is her own website, so primary/not independent; [2] is an interview so not independent also not really much of an interview, more just an open platform; [3] again an interview so not independent, but at least from a actual news source; [4] is her agency, so primary/not independent. Wikipedia is not just auricles about things that a real.All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). So you need to find some independent reviews of her work. Hope that helps. KylieTastic (talk) 13:09, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I did look up Leanne Morgan and she does have a wikipedia article. I see virtually no difference between the two woman. They are not clones of each other but where they started, there career trajectories pausing for motherhood and getting into comedy while raising a young family and where they ended up is remarkably similar.  I really appreciate your taking the time to reply and I appreciate all of the volunteers that work so hard to maintain that quality of the content on wikipedia. I appreciate that you looked at each of the references rather than just blowing me off.  It causes me to respect your decision. I am not sure that I did not respect it before but now I know that I respect it!  I am going to go out on a limb here, but if you enjoy listening to stand up comedians, I would put those two women in the top 5% and worth a listen.  I could name about ten more men and women that I would also recommend against a few hundred that I have listened to and would never recommend to anyone.  Be well! 96.60.2.237 (talk) 22:40, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Most editors are happy to respond to people if they notice such questions. However not everyone with 'watch' a user page after leaving a message (I tend to just watch a page for a day after a review). So if you don't get a response here it may be the query was not seen or the person is just busy irl, or just having a bad day. Note, I did not look deeply for actual sources, but if you can find 3 good independent sources do add them and resubmit. Take care. KylieTastic (talk) 09:27, 1 April 2024 (UTC)