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Happy editing! I dream of horses If you reply here, please ping me by adding to your message (talk to me) (My edits) @  04:26, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

I have no idea what you mean. I have been editing articles on Wikipedia for quite a few years, including providing 45cat information, incurring no such message.98.149.97.245 (talk) 04:29, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

February 2020
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I edited the article in question, to smooth its appearance. I know nothing about bots and do not ever knowingly make any unconstructive edits.98.149.97.245 (talk) 06:19, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Sweet Soul Music
Hello, thanks for your edit to Sweet Soul Music. However, I've had to revert it because whosampled.com is not considered a reliable source due to being user-generated. See WikiProject Albums/Sources. Graham 87 12:42, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

What should matter here, first and foremost, is documenting the claim "the opening riff is a quote from Elmer Bernstein's score for the 1960 movie The Magnificent Seven" is correct. Since Wikipedia's ideal is to document everything, what better place to find appropriate documentation than a site that conveniently provides a side-by-side comparison of the two tunes? One should not dismiss such a site for ancillary reasons, such as how it came to be. Further, readers can decide for themselves whether the proffered samples themselves constitute sufficient evidence for the claim.98.149.97.245 (talk) 15:19, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

March 2020
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Despite best attempts, multiple copies of the letter "m", which I never intended, showed up. My intention is to amend the word "who" to the grammatically correct "whom", nothing more.

April 2020
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at Theme from A Summer Place, you may be blocked from editing. Binksternet (talk) 22:39, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

May I ask, what disruptive editing? For example, if referring to the theme blocking #2 records from reaching the Hot 100's summit, there are any number of Wikipedia articles that mention the same blocking, and I provided the cited dates, which anyone can check by going to Billboard magazine, either in print or on-line.98.149.97.245 (talk) 22:51, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Also, Casey Kasem mentioned the same blocking on American Top 40. Would it be enough for me to mention Casey Kasem's citation?98.149.97.245 (talk) 23:01, 21 April 2020 (UTC)


 * It's Kasem's prerogative to talk about one song "blocking" another but in reality the chart results are based on sales. The people buying the album set the chart results, and the song above another song is just being bought by more people. Kasem's kind of colorful phrasing isn't appropriate in an encyclopedia. Binksternet (talk) 16:51, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

All that I had done, years ago, was listen to the "American Top 40" show in which Casey Kasem mentioned that "Theme From 'A Summer Place'" kept more #2 records from reaching #1 than any other #1 record did. I would have also included that additional fact, that "Theme From 'A Summer Place'" was the then-champion in that category, had I recalled which "American Top 40" show. Should I discover which show, then I would include that additional information as well.

I contend that it doesn't really matter which verb, from a large collection of synonymous verbs, that Casey Kasem chose to use, only that he depicted what I would call a block or blocking action. However, if you would prefer a particular verb, then I suppose that I would not object to using that verb.

The records that "Theme From 'A Summer Place'" kept from reaching #1 appear in the following Wikipedia articles:

"Handy Man": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handy_Man_(song) "He'll Have To Go": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He%27ll_Have_to_Go "Wild One": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_One_(Bobby_Rydell_song) "Puppy Love": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppy_Love_(Paul_Anka_song) "Green Fields": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brothers_Four

The first four articles each explicitly mention its respective record not reaching #1 because of "Theme From 'A Summer Place'". Only the fifth article did not mention a similar behavior, in connection with "Green Fields", first by "Theme From 'A Summer Place'", then by Elvis Presley's "Stuck on You".

Besides consulting the above articles, one may also find the entire set of applicable information concerning "Theme From 'A Summer Place'" by looking at the Hot 100, available in books and Billboard on-line, for the weeks ending 29 February 1960 through 18 April 1960, or by listening to the "American Top 40" show that I did. I don't think that any such observation would constitute original research, especially since Casey Kasem had already publicly stated the observation.

I would contend that adding that information to the article for "Theme From 'A Summer Place'" would show that additional aspect of the record's powerful chart performance. Apparently Casey Kasem thought similarly.98.149.97.245 (talk) 03:10, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

I confirmed the exact quote and the time. On the 29 April 1978 edition of "American Top 40", between "More Than A Woman" by Tavares at #33 and "Fantasy" by Earth, Wind and Fire at #32, Casey Kasem said

"Well, now let's answer that question from St. Louis, Missouri. Neal Stutt writes in to ask, 'Dear Casey, what #1 record in the rock era kept the most songs from getting past the #2 spot?  I became curious after watching Debbie Boone's "You Light Up My Life" prevent song after song from hitting #1.'

“Well, Neal, while Debbie's hit held the #1 position for those ten phenomenal weeks, four #2 songs came and went. But the song that held back the most #2's was another of the most popular movie songs of the rock era. In fact, when we did our recent special survey of the forty biggest songs to come from the movies in the 60s and 70s, this song ranked #2. Back in 1960, Percy Faith hit #1 with the 'Theme from "A Summer Place"'. And he held onto that position for nine consecutive weeks while five other songs climbed as high as #2 and then fell back down the chart. Those songs, by the way, were 'Handy Man' by Jimmy Jones, 'He'll Have To Go' by Jim Reeves, 'Wild One' by Bobby Rydell, 'Puppy Love' by Paul Anka, and 'Greensleeves' [Casey Kasem meant to say 'Greenfields'] by The Brothers Four. And there you have it, Neal. The #1 song that resisted more attempts to dethrone it than any other #1 song in the rock era. Good question. Now, on with the countdown."

So the research was not from me but rather from American Top 40. Now, may I put that information into the Wikipedia article?98.149.97.245 (talk) 23:58, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Medicine Man (disambiguation)
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Buchanan Brothers does not mention "Medecine Man", and I couldn't find mention of their song in any other article.

Thank you. Leschnei (talk) 14:15, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

First, the song's title is "Medicine Man", not "Medecine Man". Second, Buchanan Brothers is an aka label for Terry Cashman, Gene Pistilli, and Tommy West, which you can locate in the articles for Terry Cashman and Tommy West.98.149.97.245 (talk) 16:16, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

June 2020
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 * I'm confused. You want me to cite my sources, rather than not, don't you?  Now how am I supposed to do so?98.149.97.245 (talk) 07:04, 5 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I found another source, hopefully to your liking, which I have now included.98.149.97.245 (talk) 03:01, 6 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I have no problem with the source from which you copied your text verbatim. The copyright problem comes from you using their text without attribution. Binksternet (talk) 08:47, 6 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Then I have no idea what to do. In my latest attempt, I didn't even copy any text verbatim, but apparently that's not good enough either.98.149.97.245 (talk) 11:41, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

August 2020
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at British Invasion, you may be blocked from editing. Binksternet (talk) 17:30, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

September 2020
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To the contrary! In the article "Annette O'Toole", I edited the field "birth_name  = Annette O’Toole" to "birth_name   = Annette Toole", to be consistent with the sentence "O'Toole was born Annette Toole in Houston, Texas, the daughter of Dorothy Geraldine (née Niland) and William West Toole Jr." which already appears. Not doing so would leave the born name as both Annette O'Toole and Annette Toole, which is inconsistent.98.149.97.245 (talk) 02:23, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

November 2020
Hello, I'm Materialscientist. I noticed that in this edit to One on One (1977 film), you removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Materialscientist (talk) 18:35, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

I didn't remove anyone else's content. Rather, I moved my own recent addition from the soundtrack section, where it wouldn't really belong, to an earlier section.98.149.97.245 (talk) 18:47, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Alone Again Or, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Call me when you get the chance 22:03, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Curious. I had provided much of the content in that section a number of years ago, and no one objected to any of it then. The boldfacing of "or" originally belonged to another contributor years ago.98.149.97.245 (talk) 23:54, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Big 8
For years I have directed PH’s to this page to explain the Big 8, 10, 12. Other than a passing reference “In an interview on KLBJ radio in Austin, TX, on May 2, 2013, Buffett humorously referred to the fact that they have to ‘play the ten that everyone wants, or else we'll get killed...’”, (this page “Big 8”), to my knowledge, there has never been a public acknowledgement by Bubba or the Reefer’s of the Big 8, 10 or 12. Having been ORDERED by my family not to purchase SYDKBH, Surprise! I finally received it for Christmas yesterday. In the final paragraph of the liner notes, JB says, “...steered by our fans love of songs beyond the ‘Big 12,...”, (Buffett, Jimmy; Liner Notes, SYDKBY, 2020) thereby clearly acknowledging for the first time what PH’s have known for years. Thought you might want to add this to Big 8 section. PhinZ uP, Captain James T. As’Cot >=^> Captain AsCot (talk) 16:19, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Why did you post anything here? The subject matter bears no relation to anything that I have ever said.98.149.97.245 (talk) 16:22, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

I missed a singles quote after “Big 12” from liner notes. Thanks! Captain AsCot (talk) 16:23, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Is this not the admin for Jimmy Buffett’s page? Sorry. I have never done this before and thought I was adding to the Buffett discussion. Captain AsCot (talk) 16:25, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Not even close to anything regarding Jimmy Buffett. Please find a proper place, and put your comments there instead.98.149.97.245 (talk) 16:29, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

I have put this where it belongs. Sorry for the intrusion. I cannot determine if I can delete this so please delete if you like. Captain AsCot (talk) 16:34, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

January 2021
Please do not add or change content, as you did at Please Please Me (song), without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Sundayclose (talk) 20:28, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
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Exactly what are you claiming is content that I added or changed without citing a reliable source?98.149.97.245 (talk) 22:49, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

If you were referring to the following, then I would suggest that you consult the actual WLS Silver Dollar Surveys for 17 January 1964 and 24 January 1964, and you will see that the group name is spelled "Beattles". I have a copy of each actual WLS Silver Dollar Survey. Further, I quoted from the same source, oldiesloon, as had already been quoted, and is still being quoted, even now.

" However, the same spelling was also on the Silver Dollar Surveys for the first two weeks of 'I Want to Hold Your Hand' in 1964. "98.149.97.245 (talk) 14:39, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Please Please Me (song), you may be blocked from editing. 'SELF PUBLISHED SOURCES ARE NOT CONSIDERED RELIABLE SOURCES. READ WP:SELFPUB.'' Sundayclose (talk) 16:10, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
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Again I ask, exactly what are you claiming is content that I added or changed without citing a reliable source? How is oldiesloon a self-published source? I have nothing to do with oldiesloon except to cite it as a source, just like the article already does.98.149.97.245 (talk) 16:41, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

As an alternative, as if one were needed, would you consider http://www.las-solanas.com/arsa/surveys_item.php?sv=16602&ix=1011&it=1251&ic=30&s1=-1&q=wls to be a reliable, not self-published, source? The information is the same as on oldiesloon, with a copy of the actual survey available as a popup. I understand that the same source, www.las-solanas.com, already appears in a number of Wikipedia articles.98.149.97.245 (talk) 17:08, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Did you bother to read WP:SELFPUB? Please do so before continuing to argue. I didn't say you published it. It is a personal webpage; that's self-published. I could create a webpage and claim that the Moon is made of cheese, but that doesn't make it true. Your alternative has the same problem; it's a website than anyone can contribute to. As for your comment, "the same source, www.las-solanas.com, already appears in a number of Wikipedia articles", "other crap exists" is not a legitimate reason to add more crap. Feel free to remove from other articles, but don't add it here. Instead of continuing to argue the same point over and over here, please get consensus on the article's talk page before making the edit. Thank you. Sundayclose (talk) 18:01, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

To answer your question, yes, I had read WP:SELFPUB, but since I did not find anything there, to which I could refer that related particularly, I made my concerns known yet again. All I have been trying to do is to state that the spelling "Beattles" also appears on the 17 January 1964 and 24 January 1964 WLS Silver Dollar Surveys. I offered the other source as another possibility. I'm sorry that that source also did not seem acceptable. If you should come across an acceptable source, please let me know what it is. And no, I did not know about consensus until you just mentioned it, but now that I have read it as well, I have no idea what to do.98.149.97.245 (talk) 20:35, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I suggest carefully reading WP:RS for determining whether something is a reliable source. If there's any doubt you can discuss it at WP:RSN. In fact you can seek other opinions about the sources you are suggesting at WP:RSN if you wish. If you find a reliable source to support your edit, go ahead and make the edit. But don't revert if someone challenges it. I mentioned consensus because that is a means of dispute resolution, but I have to say I think the chances are not very good that consensus will support an edit contrary to the policies of WP:V and WP:RS. It's your choice whether to pursue that at Talk:Please Please Me (song). Sundayclose (talk) 20:54, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

The most reliable sources for the spelling "Beattles" are the WLS Silver Dollar Surveys themselves. That spelling is on two 1964 surveys, just as it is on four 1963 surveys. Since existing on-line sources which state the content of those surveys apparently do not meet acceptable Wikipedia standards, would it suffice instead just to quote those surveys themselves as the sources? An example citation: Silver Dollar Survey, WLS, 17 January 1964.98.149.97.245 (talk) 17:30, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Any quotation requires a reliable source. I again suggest trying to find one, possibly discussing it at WP:RSN. Does WLS-FM, WLS (AM), or WLS-TV make the information available so that it can be confirmed (in writing)? Sundayclose (talk) 17:59, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

One generally found WLS surveys, whose years range from 1960 to 1989, only in paper form, only at certain music stores in the Midwest. There was no other practical means for original publication. Even today, WLS has made relatively few of the surveys available at any of its on-line locations, and, in any event, none of the surveys in question, or I would have already quoted from there. Nevertheless the WLS surveys all exist, and anyone can readily find the content of all of them on-line, even photos of most if not all of the surveys themselves. Similarly for contemporaneous music surveys from any other radio station. Because of such difficulties, I offered to you the possibility of citing surveys directly. I have already attempted asking about the dilemma at WP:RSN but have received no reply, nor at this point do I expect that I ever will.98.149.97.245 (talk) 18:44, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The source doesn't have to be online, but it does need to be verifiable. If a survey is available in a book, magazine, journal, or even a photo, and if you have access, I suggest discussing that specifically at WP:RSN. Sundayclose (talk) 19:39, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Photos of WLS surveys are available at www.las-solanas.com, but apparently you disapprove of www.las-solanas.com. I have discussed the matter specifically at WP:RSN, but I have received no reply, nor at this point do I expect that I ever will.98.149.97.245 (talk) 20:04, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Where specifically on the website are the photos of the surveys in question? Sundayclose (talk) 20:49, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

While www.las-solanos.com does not necessarily have every single survey for any given station, or a photo for every week for which it does have a survey, www.las-solanos.com does have many surveys, and, for many of those surveys, does have a popup that shows a photo of the survey. In this case, one may go to http://www.las-solanas.com/arsa/surveys.php?ix=174&ic=30&it=1313&q=wls&s1=3&s2=-1 and, under WEEK, under each of 1964-01-17 and 1964-01-24, find a popup that shows a photo of the corresponding WLS Silver Dollar Survey.98.149.97.245 (talk) 21:01, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I assume you mean these photos: http://www.las-solanas.com/surveys/WLS/WLS_1964-01-17_1.jpg and http://www.las-solanas.com/arsa/surveys_item.php?sv=19043&ix=183&it=1313&ic=30&s1=3&s2=-1&q=wls . On this you need more than my opinion as I am not sure whether the links to the photos would be considered reliable since the source on which they are posted is not reliable. It's certainly better than just linking the website's transcription of the surveys. Post the links at WP:RSN and see what others think. You have to be patient; you're not going to get a lot of comments quickly. But if you get some support over the next couple of weeks and no serious opposition, that would be good enough for me. If you don't get much response there after a couple of weeks, another option later is a WP:RFC at Talk:Please Please Me (song). That probably will generate some attention. By the way, another editor pointed out a completely different issue: whether the misspelling in the surveys is notable enough to be included in a discussion of the misspelling by Vee-Jay. I don't have an opinion either way on that. Sundayclose (talk) 21:21, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

"The actual source here is the WLS Silver Dollar Surveys themselves; the website in question is merely the host for the source. And you would be citing these not for the substantive information presented (most of which, including the name of the song, is wrong anyway), but for the fact that this is what the surveys said. So the surveys should be reliable sources for what they said. I still have questions as to whether the fact that these surveys continued for a while to get the group's name wrong should be included in the article, but that is a separate issue." John M Baker (talk) 18:52, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Comment: in this case, the name of the act, not the name of the song, is spelled incorrectly. Nevertheless, given the aforementioned, may I have permission to cite those surveys from (a) www.las-solanos.com ? (b) www.oldiesloon.com ? Both sites (a) and (b) are repositories for the surveys.98.149.97.245 (talk) 06:41, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * No individual editor gives "permission" to cite. It is disputed that www.las-solanos.com and www.oldiesloon.com are reliable sources, but the real question now is whether to cite the images of the survey results (http://www.las-solanas.com/surveys/WLS/WLS_1964-01-17_1.jpg and http://www.las-solanas.com/surveys/WLS/WLS_1964-01-24_1.JPG). No one has objected, so my inclination at this point is to go ahead and cite the images (but not the websites). If anyone challenges it, you can discuss it further. There is still the issue of whether the survey results are appropriate for the article. But, as I said, I have opinion on that issue. WP:BOLD says you can go for it; if anyone objects they can challenge it. Sundayclose (talk) 20:57, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

In accordance with the foregoing, and understanding the statements so far about the matter, I have restored what I had included a week ago, except that the citations refer only to the photos of the surveys in question. However, I am just wondering, what would occur in the future if, for some Wikipedia article, I wished to cite a survey for which no photo currently exists on-line? Would the entirety of such a contribution be stricken just for lack of a photo of a survey? Separately I note that the article contains two US release dates: 25 February 1963 and 7 February 1963. Which one should be cited, and which one should be discarded? 98.149.97.245 (talk) 23:38, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I can't tell you what would happen with a future edit. If you cite www.las-solanos.com or www.oldiesloon.com there's a good chance it would be reverted for the same reason those sources have already been reverted. I would suggest finding a better source. As for two release dates, I'm not sure but it's likely is because it was released on different labels, and there was a mono and a stereo version released on different dates. Both dates appear to be reliably sourced. I would leave both dates in the article. Sundayclose (talk) 00:34, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

I suppose. But making relevant contributions could be significantly reduced thereby. Meanwhile I just included a link to just the photo of the 15 March 1963 WLS Silver Dollar Survey (http://www.las-solanas.com/surveys/WLS/WLS_1963-03-15_1.jpg), cited in the preceding paragraph.98.149.97.245 (talk) 00:59, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

February 2021
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If you had seen my Edit Summary, then you would have perceived that I said that I moved my own contribution (which I had just added moments before) to the preceding section.07:02, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

March 2021
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by inserting unpublished information or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at Smoky Mountain Rain. Binksternet (talk) 07:16, 8 March 2021 (UTC)


 * In that case, how about the following instead?


 * Milsap also played the piano on the similarly themed Kentucky Rain from about eleven years earlier.  98.149.97.245 (talk) 15:36, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * None of those sources say that Kentucky Rain is "similarly themed". One just says Milsap played on both songs, and leaves any connection up to the reader. The other one says "somewhat ironically" which could mean anything, like maybe the two titles are similar, or whatever. Neither source compares the themes. Binksternet (talk) 17:01, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Then how about the following excerpt on p. 210 from Roben Jones' 2010 book "Memphis Boys: The Story of American Studios"?

... There was also the fact that Felton did not even need to mention what he had learned: a similarly themed song recorded by an obscure hippie folk group weeks after the star had left the building is hardly plagiarism or a ripoff - it is not even worth discussing. It is no different from Ronnie Milsap, who was at the studio for some of the Elvis sessions, liking "Kentucky Rain" so much that he asked Kye Fleming and Dennis Morgan to come up with a song of that type, and they gave him "Smoky Mountain Rain", something with a completely different mood and feel ...


 * See https://www.google.com/books/edition/Memphis_Boys/t6fXPucJupIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22smoky+mountain+rain%22+%22kentucky+rain%22+%22similarly+themed%22&pg=PA211&printsec=frontcover .98.149.97.245 (talk) 02:10, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

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Please undo the revert. I was trying to include a reference that has includes the actual Cash Box pages, rather than someone's summary of the page.98.149.97.245 (talk) 06:54, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

45cat.com unreliable
You have been warned about this previously: 45cat.com fails WP:USERG, and is deprecated at WP:ALBUMAVOID. Please stop using it as a reference as you did at Wild Thing (The Troggs song). Thank you. Binksternet (talk) 19:23, 11 June 2021 (UTC)


 * If i'm not mistaken, 45cat.com is acceptable to use for just the data that appears at the top of each article, but not for the comments underneath that data.98.149.97.245 (talk) 19:28, 11 June 2021 (UTC)


 * That is your own conclusion, not shared by the WikiProject Music. Binksternet (talk) 19:31, 11 June 2021 (UTC)


 * No, it is not my own conclusion. In https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Archive_55#Discogs_and_45cat.com_should_be_acceptable_sources_when_Allmusic_has_gaps, in the section "Discogs and 45cat.com should be acceptable sources when Allmusic has gaps", see the discussion, down through to "If all that is being used from Discogs and 45cat is information (track listing, running times, writers, studios, dates, etc.) from the images (photos) of the actual releases, then those sites aren't really being used as references – they are just image sources and the reference is the album, single, etc. itself."98.149.97.245 (talk) 20:02, 11 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Also I see nothing in WikiProject Music that references 45cat.98.149.97.245 (talk) 20:02, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

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