User talk:999~enwiki/Archive 2

RfC on Frater FiatLux
Hi. I've started this RfC about FFL's conduct. Could you help provide a list of all his reverts? I was going to do it, but something has come up. If you could start, I can pick up later. I suggest chronological order... ---Baba Louis 20:59, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I've added a few policies violated. Which page was his jpg images deleted? There were four. This iwll help provide evidence of copyright and image use violation. Zos 21:49, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I am back. Looks like you did a great job on the RfC. Thanks. ---Baba Louis 15:24, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Carl Kellner
I cannot work on his bio if the lead section is dealing with history and bio material. The lead should be brief, dealing with matters following below. Zos 18:09, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't care how you edit the article. Just leave the reference. -999 (Talk) 18:10, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

User page andalism revert
Appreciated. Thanks -- Samir  धर्म 18:39, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Secret Chiefs
Secret Chiefs. This one slipped by me. Notice who created it :p Zos 06:26, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I think you may want to reference, [] to add to the Secret Chiefs article. -Chai Walla 08:39, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

As I pondered week and weary
I happened over to another area in wiki and found something kinda odd...here. Seems someone doesnt want their questions answered. Zos 07:13, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Religion and Magic
Just so you know, it was by accident that the unsourced tag got removed (copying not quite all the text I wanted from KWrite). I do intend to go back and add some source myself later though, for what it's worth. SnowFire 18:35, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

RfM
Frater FiatLux has asked why the page is now unprotected, as this can cause more edit wars. I kind of agree, and since he is sincere, I am willing to look past our arguments. So I am asking if I relist the RfM, will you agree to the meditation? I will agree if you will. Please take your time to think about this. Thanks. Zos 16:14, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

What next
What happens after an RfC is made for someone (cough cough Frater FiatLux cough)? It seems to not be going anywhere at all. And I somehow think he doesnt even know what its being used for either. SynergeticMaggot 19:39, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Djehuty
Talk:Djehuty : Consensus time! SynergeticMaggot 20:09, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Is there anyway I can get you to fix the format of your vote on User:King Vegita/WP:Egyptian Deities? I added the proper headings for the survey and voted myself. I also made note that it doesnt really reflect the other proposals on Category:Wikipedia proposals. Its still his user sub-page :D SynergeticMaggot 19:51, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I couldnt figure out how to add the name without your talk page leading to WP:proposals! SynergeticMaggot 19:54, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I fixed the link. Seems both your and K.V. have a tendency to over-capitalize titles and then the links don't work. I hope it's ok to mention this (again) on my talk page. =) -999 (Talk) 20:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Again? No I just figured it kinda rude to use JMax's talk page for conversations, is all. SynergeticMaggot 20:43, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you're probably right. I try to avoid long conversations on other people's talk pages, but not necessarily a short remark. Sorry if it bothered you... -999 (Talk) 20:45, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * No bother. SynergeticMaggot 20:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Tantra
Ok, I'll take a look. Ekajati 14:51, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Wiki Project
If I create a wiki-project Occult, would you give me a hand? Just tell me to buzz off. SynergeticMaggot 02:12, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well I made one if you're interested. WikiProject Occult SynergeticMaggot 03:54, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Choronzon, Coronzon or Coronzom
It is not currenly possible to provide a second citation for the correct spelling, according to Dee, of the name Coronzom. The Dee manuscripts have not been publically reproduced as of yet. The documents can be viewed by anyone willing the visit the British Library, and anyone viewing them can clearly see the final letter is indeed an 'M'. This is not research as such, simply an observation following an examination of the said documents.

Sorry if this is posted in the wrong place I'm having difficulty in determining the best way to contact you.

I have given you the exact reference for the appropriate Dee manuscript and would suggest you examine it for yourself. However if you wish further verification please consult Don. Laycock's 'The Complete Enochain Dictionary' Weiser 1994 pg. 98 Where Laycock offers all three spellings of the name Coronzom. He does not quote his source but, nevertheless, he obviously believes the spelling is valid.

Frustratingly Laycock fails to mention the page number of the appropriate Dee manuscript, the source of the coronzom spelling, but rhis is why I examined the manuscripts in order to determine where the spelling came from, otherwise I certainly would quote it. However, as I've stated, they are available for anyone who wishes to view them in the British Museum.

Once again I appologise if this is the wrong way to conduct this conversation.

I'm certainly not taking this as a personal issue, It's just that, to put it plainly "I know what I say when I looked at the page". The Coronzom spelling does appear in other texts, but, again there is no direct referencing. I'm assuming my own, soon to be published, book would not count as I would then be referencing my own material? My reason for including the Coronzom entry was not as self promotion, but due to the fact that this spelling does show up in some texts, chiefly Laycock, but also M. Ford's 'Book of the Witchmoon' makes mention of this spelling, and thought it would be useful if there was a wikipedia entry that reflected this.

Thank you for reinserting an entry. I was not too sure how to precede with regards to the entry, (I'd actually been away from my computer for a while, hence the lack of response) But I'm perfectly happy with what you've added. The only slight adjustment was the edition of Laycock's book, as I do not have the 2001 edition and was not sure if the page number would be the same as my 1994 edition.

M7

Hello 999!
Sorry I didn't respond sooner - I've been "globe trotting" on business lately in Europe and sometimes net access is spotty.

So how goes it all? I don't think I can compose any new articles until I return to the USA in late August, but I'd certainly like to do an article on the Flying Rolls; there are some interesting historical quirks in their story, but I'd have to duplicate some old research and come up with the citations.

A "Golden Dawn teachings" article is sure to be controversial, since that's one of the "hot button" issues in the GD community. I suppose one could take a purely historical approach, but even that gets tangled in controversy - for example, the use of such things as the Tattvas or the Chakras, or the Middle Pillar ritual. Almost all of the "traditional" groups today use these practices, but they are not part of the Cipher Manuscript contents. And what's in the Ciphers is very "traditional" in another sense - Tarot, Astrology, Qabalah, etc. The GD system was not "new" in that sense, but a compendium of older sources. Crowley remarked in his diary about the disappointment he felt when after having been sworn in the 0=0 ritual to eternal secrecy under pain of nasty death to conceal the great occult knowledge he was about to be vouchsafed, he was subsequently shown the Hebrew alphabet and the signs of the zodiac.

(I'm "cc:ing" part of this message to User Syncretic Maggot)

- JMax555 00:51, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Vandal Proof
Ever think about getting this? User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof. Just pop your name on the request list and you should have it in about 24 hours or less depending on how busy the mods are. Its a great tool. SynergeticMaggot 20:28, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

prod->AfD
Why don't you just list Divine magic and Magic theory in AfD? SynergeticMaggot 18:21, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Statement on Onslaught of Challenges
There are currently challenges made by the same three people, all of whom will recieve this message, on Thoth, Hermeticism, Hermetism, Cult of Hermes, Mental Gender, and Hermeticism and other thought systems all at the same time. Some people actually work for a living and have a life outside of Wikipedia. If you want to make challenges, you are free to do so. But when you know that they are all against the same person, have a little bit of courtesy and challenge them one or two at a time, and allow appropriate time for someone to actually do something about it. I am not a superhuman, and blitzkrieging me with all these challenges at once is unrealistic and shady. Try to have some patience and actually make it possible for me to work with you rather than trying to send me on the defensive and effectively make me leave Wikipedia. If this continues, I will have to make this an issue through RfC, Administrator's noticeboard, or Arbitration Committee. Try to use your time actually find sources to contradict mine if you feel that you have too much free time to wait around for me to be able to act on any given article.

KV(Talk) 16:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Kv
KV started an edit war. Hes named you on WP:AN here. Thought you should know. SynergeticMaggot 01:52, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

hmph
Yo. I know its tedious but can you look over what i just did to the Geomantic figures article? I want to make sure that I did all the double redirects right, and moved everything properly and the only way I can know for sure is if you didnt see a problem, lol. SynergeticMaggot 19:45, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what red link you're talking about. I checked the what links here button and there were non red links. SynergeticMaggot 20:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Yeah it was unexpected. I was doing my daily chores of stub sorting, and wham, RfA. Thanks for the support. SynergeticMaggot 14:56, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * By the way, I left a note on Tmorton's talk page letting him know that it was me who pulled the fast one on Golden Dawn tradition, not you... -999 (Talk) 15:00, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Golden Dawn tradition
Saw your note in SynergeticMaggot's nomination. You've got it wrong. I dun it. I gradually over a period of a week wrote separate articles for each of the G.D. orgs, then it was I who merged the links into Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn and then redirected Golden Dawn tradition to it. Check the history... SM simply noted it in the mediation case. So it's not fair to blame him for the merge... -999 (Talk) 14:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Damn sorry I will apologise to him later on when I get home :D I didn't realise that as the whole thing got very confusing. In retrospect the confusion was my fault as I sort of disappeared. --Errant Tmorton166(Talk)(Review me) 15:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Again. No need to apologize tmorton. Its understandable. Also 999: check out this diff. I'm in phone conversation with KV in an attempt to stop him from leaving Wikipedia just because of a few articles that may be deleted. I've also had articles deleted, and I know how he feels. SynergeticMaggot 15:04, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh and thanks for letting tmorton know. SynergeticMaggot 15:05, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Alternative to VandalProof
Theres an editor up for RfA, and I happened to come across his concerns for a tool for linux. I'm not sure at all if it will work, but its at WP:SNIPE. Just thought you might wanna know. SynergeticMaggot 16:05, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Requests for checkuser/Case/SynergeticMaggot
My god!!! Can you believe this? Of all the things to turn up on someones RfA, this has to? The user who did the request is on wiki-break. How convenient....and you are suspected as well. From what I understand, this is some cruel crossword puzzle, where all the socks are getting picked off, and you and I are among the last. Ridiculous. Would you agree to sending in an ip check? I'll do it to clear my name. SynergeticMaggot 19:36, 31 July 2006 (UTC)


 * See my comments on the RfA page and the talk page. There was nothing malicious intended by this and I never made a big deal about it specifically because it showed that the experienced editors (SM and 999) were not involved. Note that I did not raise it in the RfA. I think you'll agree that particular RfD was pretty weird and that a checkuser request was a reasonable response. I'm sorry it's been taken out of context and I have posted comments on the RfA page and RfA talk page driving home the point that SM is not a sock or a puppeteer. I have not heard your name taken in vain, but I'd be happy to do the same. I'm traveling and best reached by e-mail, not leaving a message. --A. B. 22:05, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

"Irrevocable" GFDL
Hey, just regarding some comments you left at User talk:Catherineyronwode, it's generally tacitly accepted that people *can* revoke their GFDL if they've acted in good faith. What does anyone gain by insisting on their right to use something that someone mistakenly licenced? Better to keep onside with our contributors! Stevage 23:05, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, well people can still change their minds. Legally speaking maybe they can't, but morally speaking, we should probably let them. If other people have worked on the thing, then fair enough, that's a different matter. Stevage 10:26, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you


Wizards et al
Hi! I remember your participation in the Magick article and was wondering if you might be interested in "Wizards" at all. I ran across Wizard (fantasy), and the editors there are in dispute about content and organization – which just looks like a mess to me. I was thinking it might be a good idea to create an article like Wizard (magical) covering both fictional and historical Wizards who presumably worked magic - as opposed to "fantasy" Wizards - fantasy is a term that I think would cover even The Who's Pinball Wizard. :) Or do you think Wizards who work magic are covered under Magician?  I thought you might have some good ideas about that! Dreadlocke  ☥  19:55, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Tantra
Thanks for the invite to participate in the Tantra article. I've been a bit overwhelmed with other duties. When things calm down I'll put in a few lines as time permits. Chai Walla 07:41, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Bah
You do realize that Catherineyronwode is in that pages history right? This is bad luck! Its on my watchlist. SynergeticMaggot 18:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

To Mattisse
Don't bother. I'm not interested in your rationalizations for your bad behavior. -999 (Talk) 17:15, 21 August 2006 (UTC)