User talk:9cds/archive1

'Obivious' nominations
Hey, been working with you and some others on the BB7 pages, just thought that with the hideous table of nominations (something out of a powerpoint presentation from hell) that boldifying the nominees wouldn't actually do any harm. You said it was obvious who was nominated from the table. Took me a while to work it out, that's why I did what I did. Is it that big a deal? I think making the most relevant thing on the whole page bold seems fair enough. But then again, it's Big Brother and I've got a life outside all this jazz. But I'm curious to understand why it's such a bad thing to make the most significant item of interest bold. Budgiekiller 21:17, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I appreciate your changes - but with the current discussion about colours going on, I don't think making it bold will make it any clearer - if anything, more confusing. You may want to bring it to the talk page, though? -- cds(talk) 21:21, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey, to be fair, I'm not that fussed. I just wanted to know who was nominated and it took me some time, and I'm the Universe expert in powerpoint etc. (!) so for it to take me a few seconds to find the answer just made me think it needed some highlights.  Anyway, it appears that the current tide of events has taken precedence, as you said, so I'll let it slide until the yelling has calmed down.  I'll bring it up some other time (or just subversively keep changing the page like an IPvandal using a variety of IP addresses until someone forgets to revert.... [sneaky laugh])...! Budgiekiller 21:30, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
 * lol - You could try ;) Once the current discussion has calmed down, I'll bring it up. -- cds(talk) 21:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: response to helpme

 * Ok, firstly, as said before, you shouldn't take the AfD personally, and the reason there are 4 others quickly jumping in is merely becasue a lot of people (myself sometimes) who look at all the open AfDs and vote on those that stick out.
 * As for the other user following you around, I'm not sure what to do about this. I'll chat to a few people about it for advise. For the moment, I know it's hard, but try to assume good faith :)
 * I hope you don't leave Wikipedia over this - it's mostly good, I promise! I notice you have got help elsewhere - together, I hope this situation will get sorted. -- cds(talk) 23:47, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I got your message. How should I show you the links? Should I copy and paste the actual link, or just write with []'s the name of the page? Veritasophia 00:42, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * If it's diffs, then you can put the full link in single square brackets, or the article itself you can put in double square brackets. -- cds(talk) 00:43, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


 * It looks like a lot of this has stemmed from simple misunderstanding. Certainly I feel the redirect should've been discussed first. I think if you still feel there needs to be certain information included, you should take it up on the article talk pages. As for the user following you, I think he means no harm in it, and is only trynig to keep the place tidy. I hope this doesn't discourage you! -- cds(talk) 01:50, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Responded on user's talk page. -- 9  cds (talk) 15:06, 7 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Ah, ok. You may want to ask the people deleting the content, they hopefully will nicely explain :) -- 9  cds (talk) 20:16, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Personal attack?
Why is everything I say that concerns something you do a personal attack? Stop deleting what I have to say; the article you keep posting on my talk page says you shouldn't delete peoples' comments, only the attack; or something along those lines. You're just deleting the whole thing. JD 00:17, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It's fine if you feel that the content should stay, nobody's saying you can't give your opinion on things. However, you can't link an action to a user: if they put an article up or AfD you should vote on it, rather than say "ffs they've put it up for AfD!". This is seen as a personal attack. Just comment on the content rather than the person, and we'll all be fine :) -- cds(talk) 00:19, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * There is so much I would just love to say to you, but I'm worried I could be breaking one of your precious Wikipedia rules, and you are not worth my being banned. If you want to sort things out, reverting things immediately is not the way to go about doing things.  And just for the record, I didn't comment on the content because it's not the content I have a problem with; it's the course of action you chose to take.  And also, the ffs was not aimed at you, and if you see that as a personal attack, that's not my fault.  JD 00:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Notice
IN THE MEDIATION CABAL; Case: 2006-06-01 JD UK and 9cds

To: 9cds

You are notified that a case, in which you are named as a party, has been submitted for mediation. Your response to the other party's claims is hereby requested. Please post your response in the discussion section of the case page. The case page is at Mediation Cabal/Cases

/s/

Geo.plrd 01:46, 1 June 2006 (UTC), Mediator; Cabalist of the Mediation Cabal

Clarification of Notice
This is to clarify the notice, on the case page 2006-06-01 JD UK and 9cds you edit the section labelled Discussion, and put your response there. Geo.plrd 02:16, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. -- cds(talk) 02:17, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Removed begging?
Why are you deleting things from my talk page that don't concern you? -- JD talkemail 12:15, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * If you've got the time to make endless reverts to other pages, I'm sure you have the time to answer my question. -- JD talkemail 12:43, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I was just about to ask this, is it actually allowed to delte things from other user's talk pages? How would you like it? Trampikey 14:55, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's allowed. Yes, people have done so in the past. -- cds(talk) 15:45, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Show me where it says people are allowed to do that. -- JD talkemail 18:20, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It's a wiki - show me where it says people are not allowed to do that. -- cds(talk) 18:26, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * You deleted a message on my talk page that was meant for me, and you deleted it before I was given the chance to read it. Is that allowed?  -- JD talkemail 18:28, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * If it's against wikipedia guidelines, yes. -- cds(talk) 18:30, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, so show me where it says that then. -- JD talkemail 18:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

It's common sense to remove votespam. -- cds(talk) 18:44, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * And I want to see the Wikipedia page where that is written. -- JD talkemail 18:50, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * JD: Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point. — FireFox usertalk 18:54, 01 June '06
 * I don't see it... -- JD talkemail 19:07, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * You are missing the point. I am advising you, Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point. — FireFox usertalk 19:11, 01 June '06
 * And in reply to your question, the closest you're ever going to get to an answer is WP:UCS and WP:IAR. — FireFox usertalk 19:14, 01 June '06

And with those last two statements you completely confused me. I don't see how I have been disrupting Wikipedia to illustrate a point, and don't see how WP:UCS or WP:IAR are relevant to this. Just forget it. -- JD talkemail 19:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your help your the best! Come to my talk anytime buddy! Bubbles2430 20:39, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Glad to be of assistance :) -- cds(talk) 20:41, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Help
How do u see the new users on wikipeda? Also when can I move a page? Cookie 22:06, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

WikiCookie
Here ya go! Thanks for starting me off on the redesign of my userpage. -- Xyra  e  l  T 14:46, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Reply to helpme
the article Veritee was removed ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amoona (talk • contribs)

Hello thanks for your help: the page Veritee was removed and I am trying to create this page can you help? please respond on my talk page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amoona (talk • contribs)
 * Replied on talk page as requested -- 9 cds(talk) 22:02, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

hi, thanks but the article I want to create is not advertisement, can you do someting i am interested in this product and want to start an article, please advice ?

this is the text I want:

(spam removed)

PLEASE RESPOND ON MY TALK PAGE on my talk —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amoona (talk • contribs) --  9 cds(talk) 22:09, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

User:Benbread
CDS a la #YPN, right? Anyway, thanks for reverting my userpages vandalism, people don't like me now for reverting their filth -Benbread 22:17, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * That's me. No worries :) He's been dealt with. -- 9 cds(talk) 22:19, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Mammal4 help
Many thanks for the formatting help - I'm sure I'll get the hang of it in the end! Mammal4 13:16, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

BB06
I wasn't even meant to change the image, and I'm expecting somebody that actually lives in Australia to want to change the image back to the 2005 opening titles image. Also, having a colour that matches the image makes it kinda difficult to see where the image ends and the background begins. But it's more for the first reason. -- JD talkemail 21:53, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, the image looks good - I like it. It's the background colour - I'm of the opinion that you shouldn't be able to see where the image ends. But I don't know how it should look, so sure, that's fine! -- 9  cds (talk) 21:59, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * How what should look? And who said it wasn't fine in the first place?  -- JD talkemail 22:03, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

BB06 - Gaelan Walker
The link that I re-added was already there before you decided to hack and slash at the BB06 article. You may not think it's relevant, but if any of the links that you deleted were of any relevance, that one would most probably have been the only one. I'm leaving it on, because someone that actually lives closer to Dreamworld than you or I thinks the link should be there, for whatever reason. If you don't like the links being there, speak to the people that originally added them. -- JD talkemail 15:00, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Prop Solution
There is a proposed solution for the case with JD, Please review it and advise. Geo.plrd 22:35, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Speedy of 7 Seconds of Love
As the consensus was unfortunate but clear at the AfD, I won't pursue it further, but this article wasn't a speedy candidate due to the assertion of notability regarding press and the popularity of Veitch. Please reconsider how these are closed for future reference.--badlydrawnjeff talk 13:43, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It wasn't me who deleted the article - it was put up as speedy by someone, and deleted by an admin. I merely closed the AfD (if you think I closed it wrong, my apologies, and let me know so that I don't make the same mistake again) -- 9  cds (talk) 13:46, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello
Hi! I keep bumping into you on the BB7 page and in a few other places. You quite often 'beat me to it' with fixing various edits on that page. Just thought I'd say hey. Celardore 22:53, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Haha, I love the way people treat reverting vandalism as a race :p Nice to meet you, some really good work on the BB7 article, you've made it look really nice. Keep it up :) --  9  cds (talk) 22:56, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean I'm racing you, just I'd get edit conflicts because you did the same thing a few seconds earlier is all =) And there is always room for improvement, we'll see what happens!  Celardore 23:05, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

RFA
I removed your request for adminship as you need to read the rules Requests for adminship. ForestH2

I'll open it again but you have to put it at the right section. ForestH2


 * By the way, I've added to more questions to your RfA. As always, additional questions are completely optional. When you have a minute, I'd appreciate if you would take a look at them. Thanks. JoshuaZ 00:34, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi 9cds
As a courteousy - you closed Joseph D. Campbell as 'no consensus' - I think the argument to delete was far better than that to keep (which was non-existent). As AfD is by no means a vote, I think you may have made the wrong call - I would have deleted - and so I have taken it to deletion review. Regards,   Proto    ||    type    11:33, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

BB AU Screen caps
You only just noticed them? They've been there for ages - I had put them in tables, but Barrylb said they looked clutterd and removed them, leaving the AO and FNL ones on there. I wanted to see if they would look alright if they were small, but I only clicked to edit the Shows section so I couldn't look at the whole article. If you want them back, consider looking at the ones in tables in a previous edit, then speak to Barrylb. -- JD talkemail 16:35, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I must admit I didn't like the tables, but I think the screen caps should be in the article still. -- 9  cds (talk) 17:32, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Stress and Esperanza
I hope your RfA goes well. Please come back when you are feeling better. Best of luck, Kilo-Lima|(talk) 18:25, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Wish I had time to leave a pretty picture. Instead, here is a smiley :)  Hope to see you back soon. -- Samir   धर्म 07:07, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

RfA
Hey, just wanted to say that although I opposed your nomination, it wasn't personal and I think you'd make a great admin soon. I can see that some of the comments (particularly those revolving around the 'malformed rfa') weren't fair at all, but my opposition was simply based on the lack of experience (I've seen RfA's rejected on lack of experience for people with 10k edits!) and the whole BB7 episode with JD_UK. Anyway, I understand that you might want to take a wikibreak but please, please don't take it personally and don't write the whole thing off. Don't hesitate to get in touch if you want to discuss further, but please don't dismiss Wikipedia on this experience! Kind regards... Budgiekiller 19:05, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you
Hi, thank you for voting in my RFA which failed eventually at a result of (91/51/8). I do not plan to run for adminship until a later date. Once again, I will like to thank you for voting. --Terence Ong (talk 14:24, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Fair use image
The 'swish' is tagged as a fair use image therefore WP:FAIR applies, unless the 'T&Cs' you refer to change the tag on the image, it cant be on a template. I have listed it at Fair use review, so you may want to detail these 'T&Cs' on the template/image's talk page. Ian3055 18:08, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

BB7 Images
''Why did you remove these? -- 9cds(talk) 19:15, 15 June 2006 (UTC)''

A moment of wikifury. Not to boo-hoo or anything, but I've had a stressful time IRL recently - but that cloud lifted today (I kept my job). I'm more than happy to add new and improved images to the article, I've still been keeping tabs on things. I let my opinion [that my neutral image of Sezer was best] get the better of me, and I apologise for that. Entirely unprofessional I know. I stayed away from the article the past few days because of that, never really understood how annoying differing opinions can cause such grief until that little incident.

This time tommorow, the article will be all pretty again. Sorry again to all concerned.

Celardore 19:44, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Heh, glad things are improving - the article really does look bad without them ;) -- 9  cds (talk) 23:46, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:BBArticleSpoiler
I already have commented on it, and in case you had forgotten, the whole "don't post on my talk page unless absolutely necessary" thing is still in place. -- JD talkemail 15:34, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Trading spaces
Hello, 9cds, thank you for signing up to participate in Esperanza's trading spaces program. As you requested to renovate another user's page, you will be renovating Moink's userpage. Please contact Moink on their talk page about the renovating. The renovating will be listed at Esperanza/Programs, please feel free to update the status as it changes. Enjoy!

BbSpoiler
Just a quick question - what does the changes you made do? -- 9  cds (talk) 14:30, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It's very basic. I just replaced the word "section" in the text with  thereby allowing one to change the word section to a word of your choice. This was added so that the duplicate template (Template:BBArticleSpoiler could be deleted without contention.-- SomeStrang  e  r ( t ) 14:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Aha, nice. Thanks! -- 9  cds (talk) 14:48, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks!
-- Pilot| guy  22:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC) And your support was not late and very much needed :)

Afd-list
What is it about that template that you think is so special? Did you look at the image link I put down that showed how ugly it looked on the page because it doesn't hide on non-standard MediaWiki skins. Stop being silly yourself. I think it would be hilarious if you actually tried to block me for removing the instructions that only you ever used/needed to nominate an article. The don't edit means the rest of it. You have a lot to learn as an admin yet. I am reverting and well, its your choice whether to put it up for anything. Ans e ll 10:49, 20 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Could you be nice enough to actually say why afd-list is so important. The instructions not to edit the template are not meant to be totally literally interpreted. I am using ignore all rules to make things run better as my defence, what is yours? Also, could you comment here to substantiate your reasoning. Thanks, Ans e ll  11:28, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * You should not be editing templates that say not to edit it. By doing so you're only trying to make a point, and breaking 3RR at that. -- 9  cds (talk) 11:31, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Have you for even one second wondered why the template says do not edit. And what material damage I am doing by removing the one-use instructions which you followed nicely to do the original nomination. I am not making a point. You are making a point that you are a new admin who is suddenly invincible. BTW, I would love to see you justify your first block as a 3RR on listing instructions, something which admins should be able to do without the instructions. The instructions are merely a nicety. There are many people who think the template looks ugly. Why don't you go and fix it instead of making admins look foolish by following instructions to the letter. Ans e ll  11:39, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I will happily back it up if I happen to block someone for 3RR. Please don't make a point and discuss it on the talk page. -- 9  cds (talk) 11:43, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Reported for 3RR on Greg Mathew
See for discussion regarding your 3RR violation. Ans e ll 12:02, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi cds, I have blocked you for four hours, while waiting for Ansell's response to my proposal and for some general cooling off time. --JoanneB 12:19, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Template:Big_Brother_housemates
Hi, do you know if it would be possible to change the colour of individual lines in this template? If you don't have a clue about this sort of thing, then sorry for asking. -- JD talkemail 14:45, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by changing the color of the individual lines? Do you mean the lines where the participants are listed? And if so, do you want to be able to change it for each individual use of the template?-- SomeStrang  e  r ( t ) 14:55, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I had an idea that would mean people could get rid of the table on BB06 if a consensus is reached. Instead of having the table, and the lines colour-coded for nominations and evictions, I was thinking maybe do it in that template.  If it is possible, and if you have some spare time, could you do it just for the template on the BB06 article please?  Or tell me how I would be able to do it, if making such a change would affect the automatic alternate colours used for each row?  -- JD talkemail 14:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I would rather acheive consensus before making all these changes. Why don't you go ask 9cds who seems to be the other person heavily involved with the Big Brother related pages. If she agrees then I will go ahead and make the changes requested.-- SomeStrang  e  r ( t ) 15:06, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure, but I think 9cds has been blocked from editing for a few hours. But I'm sure she'd jump at the opportunity to have the table deleted.  I'll try and ask her on the IRC thing, and I'll get back to you.  Thanks.  -- JD talkemail 15:08, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I would suggest leaving a message on her talk page regardless. Blocked users can still edit their own talk page.-- SomeStrang  e  r ( t ) 15:16, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I spoke to 9cds on IRC, and she said that it was alright to do that. Right before she said she was going to report me to a freenode operator.  Anyway, so should I post something about it on the BB06 article's talk page for other peoples' opinions?  -- JD talkemail 15:58, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * JD, I never said that, but I do recall this part of the conversation:

17:54:22  i spoke to somebody about it and they said that i shud ask u first since u made it 17:54:28  but i think they can do it\ 17:54:42 They can, yes. 17:54:53 But it's polite to talk to people about changes, rather than start edit wars. 17:55:01  really? 17:55:09  you should maybe take your own advice 17:55:26 Reporting you to a freenode oper.
 * Which is against freenode guidelines. I will, however, work on the changes in my own time. -- 9  cds (talk) 16:47, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd rather the person I asked did it if anybody did it. -- JD talkemail 16:49, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't want to be a part of the conflict between the two of you, please argue somewhere else. As far as the template goes, I had just started making changes when I saw this message. The color changing is implemented for the first 3 contestants (Go see the code if you want to add it to the rest). If you would rather have me finish it up for you, then let me know.-- SomeStrang  e  r ( t ) 16:58, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I added how it works on the discussion page of the template and implemented it on the Big Brother Australia season 6 page. I would suggest when you get a chance to find a slightly darker shade of blue and red and have it alternate with the lighter color on the template so that when there are a few evicted people or a few nominated people in a row their table rows are clearly defined.-- SomeStrang  e  r ( t ) 17:34, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was thinking of that. Will do so tonight - thanks for your work! -- 9  cds (talk) 17:35, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I was bored so I did it for you. If you have anymore questions feel free to ask.-- SomeStrang  e  r ( t ) 02:01, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I fixed it up for you. When you are trying to create tables inside of conditional statements, instead of using the "|" marker, you need to use !. This circumvents a bug which at this point is currently not fixable.-- SomeStrang  e  r ( t ) 11:17, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Oops, thanks! -- 9  cds (talk) 11:22, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thanks for the barnstar :)! *points and whistles → The Template Barnstar*
 * Hehe, I forgot about that :) -- 9  cds (talk) 17:42, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

And when you say secure server, do you mean https?-- SomeStrang  e  r ( t ) 17:40, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, over here. -- 9  cds (talk) 17:42, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Boldificationalism
Wow! I came back to the page to find that someone had worked out how to highlight the cell with the most recent nominees inside. And (I could be wrong), but it was ...... you! Nice. I won't have to subvert the web to get my own way!! :-) Budgiekiller 21:46, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Heh, yeah. It was a reasonable idea, just a bad time to do it :) There was agreement on a border, and it looks quite good :) --  9  cds (talk) 22:38, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Trading Spaces program and WP:UPH
Hello 9cds. I noticed recently on Esperanza's Trading Spaces program that you were listed as a member renovating another's userpage. I am here to tell you that the Trading Spaces program has left Esperanza and has merged into WikiProject User Page Help. WikiProject User Page Help is a new WikiProject designed to help Wikipedians with the technical side of Wikipedia, HTML codes, markups, etc. It has been discussed and the Trading Spaces program has been merged into the our new WikiProject. I have also come to invite you to our new project. If you would like to become a member, feel free to add your name to the list of participants. Whether you join or not, you're still free to join the Trading Spaces program. Cheers! — The King   of Kings  22:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

3RR
You're the person that doesn't agree on the edit. You're using a widescreen monitor, and a big one at that. Because of that, you're seeing a bigger gap than others. On a standard monitor, or maybe even a smaller widescreen monitor, the gap wouldn't be that big. You seem to be the only person that has a problem with the gap being there, and maybe you should ask other people about the gap before you mess up the layout of the article for the sake of your monitor. -- JD talkemail 10:02, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm checking the pages on a Windows box, which has a lower resolution, bigger font, and smaller screen. -- 9  cds (talk) 10:03, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
 * How low a resolution? How big a font?  How small a screen?  -- JD talkemail 10:04, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
 * 800x600, 15", -- 9  cds (talk) 10:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Why are you using that resolution? More to the point, why didn't you say that before?  Now I can understand why you think there's such a big gap.  Doesn't mean I think the changes you're making are good, but surely there must be a better way to get rid of the big gaps on your massively low resolution box thing.  -- JD talkemail 10:11, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Big Brother Australia series 5
Can't you see I'm doing what you couldn't be bothered to do properly? Don't tell me I'm breaking another damn rule when I'm not. -- JD talkemail 19:27, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism
Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Master of Puppets Giant Enemy Crab!  23:41, 22 June 2006 (UTC)


 * (Edit conflict) Is there any particular reason why you are blanking pages such as Central Bank of Iceland, Kleptomania, Adalberto Ortiz, etc? --P e ruvianLlama(spit) 23:43, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm sick of wikipedia. If this is the only way to get myself banned, so be it. -- 9  cds (talk) 23:44, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't understand. Your last edit before trying to get yourself banned was this, which shows no indication of Wikitiredness. I also saw no requests to administrators asking to be banned. You did indicate wikistress level 3 ("pretty stressed"), but I still don't understand. Is there anything we can do to help? Armedblowfish (talk|mail|contribs) 00:17, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * An even easier and time-saving method would be: don't log on to your account. Do that, and I promise, your account will never be used again.. :) --P e ruvianLlama(spit) 23:47, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Master of Puppets Giant Enemy Crab!  23:45, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

She/he/they/whatever
Sorry for calling you he, that was a genuine mistake. I really do hope you to come back to Wikipedia; you do make good edits, and you know it. Please reconsider. -- JD talkemail 23:55, 22 June 2006 (UTC)


 * While I understand that you may feel frustrated, why did you feel the need to deface Wikipedia property and involve uninvolved parties? You can still talk it over with JD_UK, and remember that we're here to work as a team, not make enemies. If you feel a piece of information should be added, or in this case, subtracted, ask others what they think! I realise that we encourage boldness but try to discuss controversial issues before you take any action. And please don't keep vandalising; let's try to start this with a clean slate. Cheers, Master of Puppets Giant Enemy Crab!  23:57, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Tea, anyone? ;) Please stay.... Celardore 00:01, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

My user page
Hey 9cds,

I'm sorry it's taken so long to get back to you. Real life has been very hectic lately. I'm very flexible on my user page. I would like it to be attractive. I'm not such a big fan of "brag sheets" though some indication of what I'm interested in (fluid dynamics and its category, equality feminism-related stuff, aviation-related, and lots of random subjects here and there (e.g. vegetarianism, the places I've lived and studied). I should indicate that I'm an administrator.  I should mention that I'm studying for a PhD in aerospace engineering at MIT, particularly working in multidisciplinary design optimization.  I like having some indication of my attitude towards Wikipedia, which has a very heavy emphasis towards not biting the newcomers and civility.  I used to have a picture up on my page, but it was old and I deleted it a while ago, though I recently borrowed a camera and could get another one if I chose. There used to be a story on my user page of how I first became a Wikipedian, with diffs of Tacoma Narrows Bridge and Lift (force) and a heavyhanded moral about WP:BITE, and I had a bit of an idea about an essay exploring ownership of articles and the story behind WP:POINT. Anyway, in the true spirit of trading spaces, and the openness of wiki, do what you want! moink 15:20, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

A short Esperanzial update
As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, &mdash;Cel es tianpower háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for your kind message back in December last year. I returned to England in May, having spent the past 5 months working alongside as well as shadowing some of the staff based there on a fixed term basis at the Johannesburg bureau. I won't be able to contribute as much from now on as I would like to due to other commitments but I'll try to help out where I can! :) Wikiwoohoo 15:05, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Channel 4 svg
Oh right, I didn't know that. Oh well, at least I learnt how to make SVG files :). --LorianTC 19:04, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It appears you have done this with several channel logos, could you please revert them? -- 9  cds (talk) 19:06, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Only 2 of the Channel 4 logos... Not sure where you got the "several channels" from... --LorianTC 19:57, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Oops, my mistake, my apologes. (Several other logos were uploaded at a similar time) -- 9  cds (talk) 19:59, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

SVG logos
What makes you say that you can't upload logos in SVG under fairuse? Look at Microsoft. As that's a big company, therefore probably a popular article, how has THAT logo survived as an SVG under fairuse? I have not seen any policies to support this claim. - Рэд  хот  20:23, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The tag with the image: It is believed that the exhibition of low-resolution images of logos.. - SVGs are high resolution. -- 9  cds (talk) 20:47, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, not necessarily. SVGs aren't images per se. SVGs are a set of constructions. Whether or not they violate fairuse is determined by how high a resolution they are rendered in in the articles. As I said, I have yet to find a policy which advises against this, as long as they're rendered as low-res (and all those RTÉ ones were) - Рэд  хот  20:56, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Saying SVG are a set of constructions is like saying PNG is a set of pixels. SVG are high res, always will be, due to the nature of SVG. -- 9  cds (talk) 21:00, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Within an SVG document you define the dimensions on the output image, it can be scaled up of course, but so can other images. I don't see why the format makes a difference. --LorianTC 21:47, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Because other image types lose quality when scaled up. SVG images don't. This is not fair use. -- 9  cds (talk) 00:17, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * In that case, why aren't you speedy deleting the more obvious ones. I just pointed out Microsoft is in SVG, and yet you haven't done anything about it. Not even IFDed it! I agree that an SVG can RESULT in non-fairuse, but I completely disagree that it, in itself, is not fairuse, once its not rendered high-res. And my point about SVGs being a set of constructions, was that the size it must be (to look normal), isn't defined. They are NOT high-res because they aren't the same thing as bitmaps are. You can't compare them like that. You're saying they're high-res because they can be high-res. By your logic, I can call them 1 pixel wide because they can be 1 pixel wide. Once again, I'll point out that you haven't shown me a Wikipedia policy that says SVGs can't be used for logos. If you do, I'll gladly accept that they shouldn't be on Wikipedia. - Рэд  хот  12:59, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * If you feel they shouldn't have been deleted, may I suggest WP:DRV. -- 9  cds (talk) 14:35, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It's not really about that anymore. At this stage, I want it clearly defined whether or not SVG is against fairuse. If I establish it is, fair enough. If it's not, I want it put on a policy page. I have asked at several reference points about it, but have yet to get a conclusive answer (nobody is very sure). It really should be noted whether or not they can, SOMEWHERE. - Рэд  хот  15:30, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, thanks, in a way, for deleting those. It brought it to my attention that this is something that needs to be clearly defined somewhere. ;) - Рэд хот  15:32, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Glad to see the two of you work it out ;-) Anyway, more discussion (with my thoughts) is located here for those just passing by.  GChriss 18:01, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Cutbacks
Hey, it's me again, the one that complained about the weeks 3 & 4 cutbacks on the BB7 article. I just added to the chronology for weeks 5 & 6 hoping that you wouldn't cut them back. I decided that the few points that I included were fairly important/notable events in this year's Big Brother and don't think that the chronology should be reduced to just noms & evictions. What do you think? King rich 22:28, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The article is already quite long... why is a task notible? -- 9  cds (talk) 22:29, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I think that all of the tasks should be included in the chronology, and that if I was to do a survey about it (I can't because I'm rubbish at Wikipedia) then most would agree with me. I based the chronology on the BB6 article and they're about the same length - which I think is a fair length. King rich 22:33, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Hm, does the BB6 article contain all tasks? (I can't remember). The problem is there's a large number of tasks, and if we're gonna do it for the whole series, the length will get out of control. -- 9  cds (talk) 22:37, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I can't remember either, but I think that the length of the chronology with my edit was about equal to BB6 and of an acceptable length. I suggest we re-instate it for now and then evaluate the length of the chronology in about a month's time? King rich 23:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, fair enough. -- 9  cds (talk) 00:15, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Cool. I will reinstate. King rich 01:42, 28 June 2006 (UTC)