User talk:A8UDI/Archive 3

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Smoking Pipe
I've had to undo your edits to the Smoking pipe page as Disambiguation pages exist to disambiguate similar pages (which must already exist on Wikipedia). You seem to have added two non-existent pages.

The page Pipe smoking already exists and referes to Cannabis under in the section Culture. There is also a page Cannabis (drug). If you're knowledgeable on the topic, I would recommend you expand either of these two pages.Obscurasky (talk) 15:07, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I tried to make it better, but you did a better job, so thank you. I would like to edit more on the cannabis drug article. A8UDI   talk  22:05, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No probs Obscurasky (talk) 16:27, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the cookies
Thanks for the warm welcome, I wish I could bring more, but I ate half of them on the way here. I hope you have some warm milk for to go with this delicious dessert.

Ezhuks (talk) 18:33, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

3RR note
Please take care on the Alan Grayson article, you are close to a 3RR violation, ta. Off2riorob (talk) 12:56, 17 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Any alteration to a good faith edit from another user is a revert, please take a little time to read the revert article WP:3RR, ta. Off2riorob (talk) 13:06, 17 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I am not in a 3RR? I'm so confused.. I undid my own edit because I thought a sentence didn't make sense then I realized it was right the way it was so I undid it. A8UDI talk  14:02, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It's just a friendly note, as you were involved there. Off2riorob (talk) 14:33, 17 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I appreciate the warning then, but I'm anal on stuff like that, I hate getting in trouble. :) A8UDI  talk  14:36, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No worries, your not in any trouble..just that there is clearly issues on the article and I saw you had a few reverts so I left you a note, more in the spirit of fair play than anythng else, as I noted the two other involved editors. I think I missed your self reverting though which of course is not reverting. Off2riorob (talk) 14:41, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * :) we're working it out with some good progress ... I hope A8UDI talk  16:38, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

FYI
A page you have been involved in editing is under discussion here. ta. Off2riorob (talk) 12:58, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Noted, thanks :) A8UDI talk  14:36, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Toms
Funny you mentioned it I'm thinking about writing my own draft of it. el3ctr0nika (Talk | Contribs) 07:48, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It does need serious improving; it's seriously lacking in the history and biosynthesis/ biology department.. thats my biggest problem with that article. A8UDI talk  11:30, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Presidency of George W. Bush
I'm a bit confused as to why you deleted another's talk page comments. While there is a little bit of forum in there, for the most part they look to be reasonable suggestions to me. I have reverted your deletion. Can you help me understand your thoughts? QueenofBattle (talk) 15:18, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for reverting my deletion of my own 2 month old, unreplied comment. I figured it doesn't need to be there... anymore A8UDI talk  15:19, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see that now. Damned user name change confused me for a minute.  Thanks.  QueenofBattle (talk) 15:22, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


 * ... but you are fast. DAMN. A8UDI talk  15:23, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, I just got lucky that I was looking at my watched pages just after your edit. Wish I could catch vandals that quickly...  QueenofBattle (talk) 15:26, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah yes, I love when I catch them just after they do it and I warn them less than 20 seconds later. If only I could see their faces.. like wtf!? how'd he do that so fast!!! A8UDI talk  15:28, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Reverting cannabis smoking edits
How much time did you spend actually reviewing the dozen or so edits before pushing the all/nothing button? How about doing it the hard way and going over the diffs, then you may see fit to restore the ones that aren't so bad, satisfying yourself that you were right about the others?Tokerdesigner (talk) 22:30, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the message. I actually always do review the diffs before I edit, undo or rollback another editor's work. If you can provide a link to the diff, I'd be more than happy to apologize or explain my rationale. Thanks, Tom A8UDI talk  23:50, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

(cur) (prev) 20:43, 17 October 2009 A8UDI (talk | contribs) (13,179 bytes) (Reverted 1 edit by Tokerdesigner; That wording makes it harder to read.. (TW)) (undo) (cur) (prev) 20:09, 17 October 2009 Tokerdesigner (talk | contribs) (13,111 bytes) (spottle) (undo) Tokerdesigner (talk) 23:36, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Ok, But all in all, I don't understand why you keep saying "screened" pipe or whatever, it serves no usefulness to overall article. A8UDI talk  00:18, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) "combusting the flowers" doesn't make sense in English; whereas when one says "the combustion of flowers" promotes the notion that they don't normally combust; it's cognitively done by the individual.
 * 2) As far I know (and I may well be wrong here) but as far as I know, to make hashish, the sifted trichomes must be baked to harden; so "can be baked" makes it sound optional, and without a reference, looks like you're giving directions.
 * 3) you keep promoting "screened" pipes and then using a WikiHow reference, The English Wikipedia is not a how to. So I thought that edit should be reverted as well
 * 4) That maximize edit didn't have to changed so regarding that single edit, was better your way.
 * 5) Undue weight given in the "Guide to smoking pot in New Zealand" edit; doesn't promote a world wide view. (I'll delete that now actually seeing how you just moved it to the top of the paragraph but it's completely random)
 * 6) The last 2 edits I'll change back.

Why screening info
putting info about "screened" bowls (vs a regular pipe; like it makes any difference) and then using a "How-to" reference as its source?

In case I previously didn't make this understood, (a) screening makes it possible to use sifted herb, or (even finer-sifted) kief, without "shooters" getting drawn in to clog the channel, and (b) a narrower crater (or bowl; unfortunately the word "bowl" creates a gratuitous presumption of bigness as in rus. "bolshoi" = "big") enables lower-temperature burning by reducing air intake-- so users in pursuit of "getting all the smoke" don't overdraw causing higher temperatures, destroying thc, and causing health problems due to smoking more material and getting more heatshock, CO and other toxins. Health issues like these are WP:NOTABLE enough to merit mentioning in WP.

(c) The wikiHow reference provides (1) proof that crater screening is possible, (2) a diagram showing the shape of an effective secure screening system.

Lack of screening causes many users to ignorantly jam clumps of unsifted herb in a large pipe or "joint" ("giant" as in overdose) and, by sucking hard (see above) cause effects blamed wrongly on the cannabis and, if tobacco is added, addiction to nicotine, adding to the 6,000,000/year death count.Tokerdesigner (talk) 00:06, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


 * There is a difference between noting something and promoting something. Yes, that is all notable, but not for every single pipe reference or occurance and that reference doesn't even tell you anythign about health effects; it's a "how to make a screened pipe from everyday objects" Give me a break. A8UDI  talk  00:21, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I should also remove reference 4 & 5 but I suppose, in the context of that sentence, they're okay. A8UDI talk  00:32, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Concerning referencing the talk page, it contains a diagram which clarifies what is meant by statements mentioning a non-overdose smoking option. (For some how-to info which has been on that talk page for months, I offer no apology.  Anyone who doesn't make an effort to instruct users drawn by the "Cannabis smoking" title is accessory to genocide (6-mil./yr.).)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tokerdesigner (talk • contribs) 01:17, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


 * A talk page isn't a reference... ever. A8UDI talk  01:30, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Medical Cannabis page
Hiya, before we get into an edit battle, just wanted to explain. When I saw the section stating that there are more dispensaries in California that all the Starbucks, etc. combined, it reminded me of a lot of op-ed articles out right now that are very negative towards medical cannabis legalization, which is POV.

I think it could be stated differently so as not to seem like an op-ed, but just a statement of fact. It also strikes me as tacked on to the end, not a smooth edit. Thanks for your time 68.13.178.225 (talk) 05:39, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I couldn't agree more but you deleted it, not revised it. A8UDI talk  12:47, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Laziness on my part, I will revise, thank you for the help. 68.13.178.225 (talk) 23:10, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


 * No problem; and if you'd like input or help/advice or an opinion I'm only a click away! A8UDI talk  01:57, 22 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Much appreciated. I guess my problem with fixing the piece is that I am not convinced dispensaries are a big part of the Medical Cannabis issue.  Maybe for those in the California, yes, but overall, I just don't know how important it is.  When thinking about it, I doubt the number of alcohol 'dispensaries' or Walgreen's (drug dispensaries) would ever be mentioned in comparison to Starbucks, at least not in an encyclopedic context.  So I still feel like deleting the segment.  IT still seems like POV is enough of a reason to remove it.  Thank again for your thoughts! 68.13.178.225 (talk) 17:30, 22 October 2009 (UTC)


 * That's certainly an excellent point to make; but I feel like it should be noted because 1. it's technically an illegal substance and while we can debate how little or harmful it really is, it doesn't matter because it's illegal and 2. it doesn't have to be a POV if it is worded appropriate and if it's a pure fact, there is no POV when both sides are given. A8UDI talk  17:35, 22 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Got it 68.13.178.225 (talk) 17:44, 22 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I revised it for you; taking out the comparisons. A8UDI talk  17:46, 22 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Brilliant. You rock. 68.13.178.225 (talk) 17:49, 22 October 2009 (UTC)


 * =) A8UDI talk  23:04, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

comma position
Thanks for your interest in the MoS. However, I've reverted your recent edit there, because it's inconsistent with the long-established rules at MoS. Please note that final punctuation in quotes and "words as words" on WP is different from the way taught at many US schools, and as practised by many hard-copy publications, including newspapers, outside the US. Tony  (talk)  13:41, 22 October 2009 (UTC)


 * hm.. okay. Why is it different on here? if ya dont mind me askin A8UDI talk  13:45, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It's just the way Wikipedia consensus evolved. I think it also has something to do with the principle of minimal disruption. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:54, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Minimal tampering with direct quotations from our sources. Tony   (talk)  16:43, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Grayson article
Tom, your presence in the Grayson page would be much appreciated. Scientus is refusing to discuss his edits and pushing forward with what I view to be blatant NPOV edits. He has also ignored our discussion regarding the opening of the article. Trilemma (talk) 13:20, 23 October 2009 (UTC)


 * ok tiger, I b right thur. A8UDI talk  13:22, 23 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I have fully protected the article for one week. ~ Arjun  16:27, 24 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you. A8UDI talk  17:15, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Cannabis smoking
1. ''Edits like this [blunt nicotine warning] aren't appropriate. At the bare minimum, that requires a good reference.'' Would you have suggested using the ref from a succeeding paragraph on "mixing with (tobacco and) other herbs", the Australian study?
 * I would have suggested that it not be there w/o a reference, even though I doubt that edit wasn't far off... but that doesnt matter. A8UDI talk  00:57, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

2. Moot, because Altenmann subsequently deleted the entire "blunt" paragraph anyway-- actually for once I agree with him.
 * Ok.. A8UDI talk  00:57, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

3. WP:NOTHOWTO actually says if one is looking for an instruction manual, to "try wikiHow or our sister project, wikiBooks." So after some objections from editors about including any how-to info (even though that's doubtless what almost all the readers are looking for in a google-leading article on "cannabis smoking") I adopted the device of linking to a wikiHow article which seems to me clearly endorsed by the WP:NOTHOWTO sentence!
 * No, A WikiHow is not a reference (and it doesnt even talk about ANY health benefits either!); and that admin who blocked you said the same so I don't know what you're talking about. 00:57, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

4. I should have put up more argument at that point, but after your objection I linked to a diagram on the talk page, which at least does not violate the injunction against the article itself sounding like a how-to.
 * A talk page isnt a reference; if you want to use somethign on a talk page as a reference then copy it and use it but you cant ever use a talk page as a reference. A8UDI talk  00:57, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

5. Re: talk page diagram, at risk of repeating myself-- as Daniel Burnham (famed city planner) would say, a correctly executed diagram is absolute proof that [a screened non-overdose smoking utensil] exists, or is capable of being made, though the trillion-dollar global cigarette industry would not have anyone know it. Surely after identifying yourself on your userpage as pro-cannabis, you should be interested in the idea that WP can be a major force in bringing about ecojustice (in the form of legalization) by providing the masses with maximum information on how to use harm-reduction equipment instead of cigarette paper, thus eliminating side-effects up to now falsely attributed to cannabis itself, resulting in political support for prohibition. Do you endorse the slogan "Help Wikimedia change the world!" (2008) or is that just some spouting off by a rogue fund-raising department WP:Ignore all rules?
 * I support an encyclopedia that is nonbiased. I am not 100% for cannabis legalization as I believe that while the drug itself isn't bad, there are many anxiety attributes that have been well-documented. I don't believe Wikipedia is designed to "change the world" by promoting one way of cannabis smoking; that's ridiculous. I do, however, support a free encyclopedia where all knowledge exists for the purpose of never losing it. I believe Wikipedia is a valuable asset for the progress of humanity. A8UDI talk  00:57, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

6. In one of your edit statements you said, "A pipe is a pie". Is that a typo for "pipe" or for "lie"? Anyway, as it stands I don't know if Rene Magritte would approve.Tokerdesigner (talk) 21:14, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Meant pipe* A8UDI talk  00:57, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Overpopulation
Hi A8UDI. I remember you once said that overpopulation was an issue of great concern to you. I don’t know if you’ve had a look at the wikiarticle on the subject, but it perhaps could use your loving touch to “neutralize” it. It has had a POV tag at the top of it for almost two years now, and could use someone who has an interest in the topic making improvements to it. Alternatively, it’s possible that the article has already been made to express a neutral point of view and only needs to have the POV tag removed by a bold editor using an edit summary to that effect. But, you’d be the best judge of that. The article’s talk page (and related archives) might let you in on any debate that may be preventing a neutral point of view from emerging. —  Spike Toronto  17:19, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Probably put there by the same people who say the global warming article has a "POV" ie- they don't like it. A8UDI talk  17:42, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I won’t touch a global warming article with a ten-foot pole! There was recently created an article that purported to be about a particular organisation, but which was really about a protocol that the organisation supported, and not the organisation at all. (See WP:COATRACK.) Plus, at the time I was dealing with it, only one of over 15 references actually dealt with the organisation, while all the others dealt with the protocol. When several of us pointed out that an article must be about what it’s entitled and that the references have to follow WP:V, WP:RS, and WP:CITE (not to mention, WP:REFBEGIN), we were labelled “climate-change deniers”! We were told that the mission of the org was so important that Wikipedia’s rules should be placed in abeyance for it. Now I agree that the protocol that the org exists to support is important, but all they had to do was change the name of the article, or merge it with another related article, and there would have been no problem. Anyway, they called us rule-enforcers “climate-change deniers” and began placing ad hominem diatribes against us on any user’s talk page they could find connected to the topic. One admin was even threatened with being taken before ArbCom to have his privileges revoked! Last I checked, that admin was still fighting the good fight (alas, sometimes to the exclusion of his other duties). So, they won: I took the article off my watchlist (I won’t even touch it if it appears in my Huggle screen!); got in my twin-turbo, nine miles-per-gallon HumVee; and rode off into the sunset … towards Alaska! Climate-change denier indeed!! Anyway, are you interested in at least taking a look at the Overpopulation article? At minimum, if you think that it has a neutral point of view, you could remove the POV tag and state your reasons in your edit summary. It’s not an area where I would feel competent to determine whether its point of view is neutral; you would be better able to make that determination. Thanks! —  Spike Toronto  19:12, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Sweety, you might want to take a look at my contribs. I removed it almost as soon as you sent the message and skimmed the article. No POV. Ya, I won't touch the global warming article either... I'd hate to be all over that one; yuck what a mess.. that and evolution. A8UDI talk  19:16, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I didn’t check your contribs because, since your response did not mention anything about dealing with the arcticle, I inferred that you had not got to it yet. Also, between your change to the article and my seeing your reponse here, there are a lot of intervening contribs, 1½ hours worth! As for evolution, if G-d had meant us to be descended from apes he would have made us hairier! Oh wait … he did … they’re called bears and can often be seen in their natural habitat wearing assless chaps! :) —  Spike Toronto  19:45, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


 * U funny.

Gravitronix
I'm new at this. I'm just trying to help them out. If you could help me find the proper way to edit this page and add 'A Brief History' to it, I'd be greatly appreciative. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Justconcentrate (talk • contribs) 19:18, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, hello there and Welcome to Wikipedia! I'd advise you to (1) read (or at least skim) WP:Manual of style - overview of how to write a good article here on Wikipedia; covers grammar and basic stuff. (2) You may always add any section as long as you can cite your references and do not include any original research. If you have any problems or questions, you're more than welcome to ask here. Thank you! A8UDI talk  19:21, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


 * You know, I saw this word, Gravitronix, and wondered, “What the heck’s a ‘Gravitronix’?” So, I went to the article to take a look, and lo and behold, it’s a videogame! I thought it was going to be some Star Trek thing come to life. Anyway, A8UDI you were right to revert the edit because it runs afoul of WP:COPYVIO. It is almost a direct cut-and-paste from a newspaper article available online from the newspaper’s website. However, the material in that article is very interesting as it presents an informative, historical background to the game’s development. The thing to do Justconcentrate, is to paraphrase the main points of the article (but not too closely: See WP:PARAPHRASE), and pepper your writing with direct, attributed quotes from the article. Also, be sure to enter the citation fully. You cannot enter only the Internet address of the article (i.e., the URL). Thus, you would enter this citation as follows:""which would produce:"Dumont, Rick. 'Yes Wii can: Dover studio makes Nintendo game,' Foster’s Daily Democrat. October 25, 2009. (Retrieved 2009-10-26.)"I think that the Gravitronix wikiarticle would benefit from the addition of the information contained in that newspaper article. However, as A8UDI said, it has to be added as per Wikipedia policies: See WP:V, WP:RS, WP:CITE, WP:REFBEGIN, and especially WP:MOS. Also, look to the Welcome message that A8UDI put on your page for further guidance as to how to do contribute to Wikipedia. It was terrific Justconcentrate that you found that newspaper article with all that info, but it has to be added to Wikipedia in strict compliance with the rules and guidelines. That’s why A8UDI had to act as he, quite properly, did. —  Spike Toronto  20:57, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

TL
Hey A8UDI. You asked me sometime ago to explain how to use the template, TL. I only just remembered to do so. Sorry for the delay. It’s very simple, and you use it whenever you want to direct someone to a particular template such as Cn. It is very easy to use. Just type it like this:"example"Substitute for the word, example, whatever template you want to refer someone to. Thus, if you want to refer someone to the Fact template, you would type:"Fact"which results in this:"Fact"By using TL you get the template’s name in squiggly brackets (braces) with a hypertexted link to the actual template. It’s also significantly less typing than using the   tags. Using those you have to type:""which is a lot more keystrokes and does not produce a hypertexted link to the template. Hope that helps! —  Spike Toronto  20:07, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm! thanks! A8UDI talk  21:45, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

gradisca edits
Hey,

Could you please leave the picture I uploaded for Gradisca d'Isonzo? The current one is a random view of a part of town that could be behind my garage... I come from there and I feel bad every time I look at that terrible picture of our really pretty town... Cheers

Elisa —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elisafranco (talk • contribs) 23:04, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry for any misunderstanding. I saw your edits and it had a broken link so I reverted it. If you need any help, I'd be more than happy to assist. A8UDI talk  23:08, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh ok, thanks! I had just uploaded some images and I guess it took a while for the system to find it in the database... Cheers

Elisa —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elisafranco (talk • contribs) 23:10, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: List of Dinosaur Movies
Hello A8UDI, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of List of Dinosaur Movies - a page you tagged - because: Article has context. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know.  So Why  12:39, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Okie doke. I thought that would be included. Thanks anyway. A8UDI talk  12:53, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Scientific names
Regarding your comment: "Hi, articles go by the common name; not the scientific name. That information, of course, is always in the article. Thanks"

Please have a look at 99% of mushroom related articles, you will see that the main content is under the scientific name. Common name are redirections... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cresus22 (talk • contribs) 20:28, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

A barnstar
Hi A8UDI, after reviewing your contributions, I believe you also deserve this:

Happy Wiki-ing! User:Marek69. 01:51, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * XD (thats a happy face... look closer. lol) A8UDI talk  01:54, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It is now [[Image:Smiley.svg|18px]] User:Marek69 .     01:59, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * O I C Now User:Marek69 .     02:16, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * LOL 20 mins later. oh my god, what a riot. You and Tedder made my day. Oh wikipedia. A8UDI talk  02:19, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It's late here in UK. User:Marek69 .     02:22, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Arent you tired??? it's like 4am there! A8UDI talk  03:06, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * 03:08 GMT and yes I'm just about to call it a day! - Goodnight... User:Marek69 .     03:09, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Huh?
I beg your pardon! Pdfpdf (talk) 13:07, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * regarding me reverting your uncivil edits? oh yes, Im sorry. A8UDI talk  14:07, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Perhaps you should do your homework before you make uninformed decisions? Pdfpdf (talk) 14:13, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * (Never-the-less, I have to admit that I am impressed and amused by your response! (Not to mention envious of ... ) Pdfpdf (talk) 14:24, 28 October 2009 (UTC))


 * Thanks. But please when someone warns you to remain civil, don't delete it and say "fuck off." We recent changes patrollers see it. A8UDI talk  14:33, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Generally I don't. But blind deaf hypocritical narcisists who pay no attention to anything but their own opinion tend to raise my ire, and I'm fed up with the fact that WP lets them get away with their arrogance but punishes the more reasonable editors who say: "Hang on. You're talking rubbish."


 * I agree with that! A8UDI talk  15:04, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * As I said, if you do your homework, you'll see the (to me, barely believable) "single-mindedness" of this arrogant idiot. The first four times I communicated with him I was excessively polite, to the point of obsequiousness. Then my patience started to wear thin. Believe-it-or-not, my responses were restrained. Pdfpdf (talk) 15:00, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Maybe, but all I saw when I reverted was a warning then you deleted it with fuck off, so I assumed you were being a bit too harsh..
 * You're being polite. (My response to his previous piece of hipocracy was "Bullshit". (And it was.) Pdfpdf (talk) 15:23, 28 October 2009 (UTC))


 * However, none of this is your problem.
 * But I suggest that reverting edits on a user's talk page which the user has removed is an inappropriate action.
 * If you disagree with me, I would be interested to read your rationale.
 * And by the way, the edits were not uncivil, just the edit comments. Pdfpdf (talk) 15:00, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * ("oh yes, Im sorry." - Classic!)


 * lol, WELL then, why didn't you just report that IP or user? It takes some effort, but if you learn to just not care and report the narcissists that give you trouble, you will be happier here =] OH! another tip I learned that if you become sarcastic by saying what they expect you to say, with your realistic rationale, they can't attack you back. ;) A8UDI talk  15:04, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I like to pretend to myself that I have a life outside of the rooms where I use computers ...
 * (Yes, I know, I'm fooling myself, but I'd NEVER admit that to myself ... )
 * "but if you learn to just not care" - Yes indeed. I've been working on that, but with limited success.
 * "if you become sarcastic by saying what they expect you to say, with your realistic rationale, they can't attack you back." - Yes, a time proven technique. However, with this idiot, he didn't pay any attention to anything but his own opinion and his own view of the world. (calm blue ocean. calm blue ocean. calm blue ocean. ... )
 * Best wishes, Pdfpdf (talk) 15:23, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Still, if you have Twinkle installed (with literally 2 clicks in your preferences) you can quickly and easily report disruptive editors & IPs; don't let it bother you. ;) A8UDI talk  15:24, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmmm. I don't. That sounds like a compelling argument for getting off my bottom and doing so. Thanks. Pdfpdf (talk) 15:29, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * (Well, it's 2am here. "Until the morrow". Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 15:30, 28 October 2009 (UTC))

Where's Wally? (Hang on, wrong country.) Where's Waldo?

 * Where do you live?!?! Asia I assume. Install Friendly too! Very helpful. Night A8UDI talk  15:32, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * "Asia" - Sort of .... Trivia: There are 27 timezones: 24 on the hour, plus 3 on the half hour. I live in the one at UTC+9:30 (+1:00 for "Daylight Saving". Yes, it's Spring here.) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:35, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Can you name the country? I know I'm American but I know my geography ;). A8UDI talk  12:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. But how many countries are experiencing Spring & DST, are referred to as "the antipodes", and are at UTC+9:30? Give up? Click here. Pdfpdf (talk) 12:44, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * So, I gather you do not live in "NY, NY.", but somewhere in New York State? Pdfpdf (talk) 11:43, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


 * well how'd you know that? yes, I live near buffalo, ny but I plan on moving to NYC in the near future. A8 UDI  11:46, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Humph. I thought it was because I'd read something on your user page, but perhaps not. Maybe it was something I read on your talk page? If neither, then, I'm afraid I don't know! Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:00, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


 * "but I plan on moving to NYC in the near future." - That sounds like fun, but also very expensive ... Pdfpdf (talk) 12:26, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

haha true. but if you think about it, most of the expense is just rent, considering you can walk to work.. maybe. lol im not sure but I think I want to move there. But who knowsss... A8 UDI  20:30, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, good luck. I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
 * I expect that living in NYC for a period in one of those "10,000 things you should do before you die".
 * (I lived in Paris for a (short) period, and that is one of the things I'm glad I did ... ) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 00:07, 31 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah I took 2 years of French, I'd love to speak it fluently... but my major is spanish :P :) A8  UDI  00:20, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Whitmire, SC
I have bad habit of editing without logging in...sorry. "Whitmire, South Carolina" does not belong on the "List of cities in South Carolina." It's not a city; it's a town, and there is a separate list for that. Someone (who didn't even know how to edit properly) took the liberty of adding "Whitmire, South Carolina" to the list of cities, so I got rid of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rcharlesholmes (talk • contribs) 19:44, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah okay. No problem. I live in NY and just saw that someone deleted it :P A8UDI talk  19:54, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi!
With compliments of your username, can I ask you, if you're Indonesian? Because your username, resembles the name "Abudi". This is an Indonesian name, and I hope you are too!--Berlin Approach | Lufthansa 533 at FLT230 23:35, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * hahaha no, it's a mix between Audi A8. See ya around A8UDI talk  00:01, 29 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, I see. :)--Berlin Approach | Lufthansa 533 at FLT230 03:26, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi there, thank you for your message.
Hi, it is difficult to try to make an english version of the original portuguese page

There is certainly NO conflict of interest intended, just to get an english version done in the correct as possible way. Which is not so easy as we are not very good with English.

All the references are correct Etc.

Please assist ?????????

thank you

here is portuguese version        http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yolanda_Soares  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yolanda Soares Fan Club (talk • contribs) 12:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Your user name is "Yolanda Soares Fan Club"; my understanding is that that user name may be a conflict of interest. A8UDI talk  12:40, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Is there an issue in a fan club translating an entry from 1 language to another ? many artists fan clubs, even the , the artists do this
 * Well translating alone isn't a problem. I'd be more than happy to proofread the article for grammatical errors and any undue weight on a subject; but glancing at the portuguese article, it appears fine. I shouldn't be jumping the gun here, but when writing the article, just remember to write it from a neutral point of view, that's all =] A8UDI talk  12:51, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Gibraltar is a colony
my english is no the best, but i will try to explain my change in the article.

It isn´t a imparcial article becouse no one explain that gibraltar is a english colony.the gibraltarians arent british, they dont live the british culture, the invassion destroy the territorial integrity of Spain and the original population was expulsed by the force in 1704 Untill 1981, was a crown colony. The english goverment change the name, but it is the same situation

see you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.125.212.207 (talk) 12:53, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I reverted because your edit did not read correctly. Everything you said above is already in the article. A8UDI talk  12:56, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Life imprisonment in Sweden
Hi! I saw that you recently removed my changes on the Life inprisonment entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Life_imprisonment&action=historysubmit&diff=322391441&oldid=322391406 My changes are correct, as can be seen if reading e.g. the Swedish entry. There is indeed a 10 year minimum before applying for pardon, the crimes I listed are the ones that you can get life inprisonment for, and a few years ago the appeal for pardon process was changed so that it is no longer the government that makes these decisions, but the Court of Örebro (Örebro Tingsrätt), as this court is located near the jail which holds all/most of the life convicts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.9.165.183 (talk) 08:04, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay then; I'm sorry. As I was glancing through it appeared that you were just changing info and putting in false information, which is a common form of vandalism. If you'd like to make edits in the future again, please consider using the edit summary tool bar to help deter any misunderstanding; I wouldn't have reverted then. Keep up the good work! :) A8 UDI  10:11, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

:(
Hi, soory to bug but I been here since Spring 2007. Also in Uncyclopedia, im Flutter.Turnspten (talk) 20:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * So I saw... but I wanted to welcome you anyway ;) A8 UDI  20:04, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Stones Edit
The edit was a mistake, I had meant to hit the Show Preview tab. I'm adding information, and will note this in talk, I dont think I've removed much, but I will check. Thanks for the poke. Mr Anon
 * you can undo your own edit by viewing the history of the page. A8 UDI  20:27, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

X0X9/Rock5410 sock case
Hey--I was in the middle of submitting a request under the sockmaster, Rock5410, when I saw yours. Aren't all of these supposed to go through the master account? WeisheitSuchen (talk) 13:37, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No idea; just used the lovely Twinkle device to report. An indefinitely blocked user is indefinitely blocked; if they make a new account then they'll be blocked. A8  UDI  13:40, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No argument that he should be blocked. However, his response to blocking is always to create a new account; this is #6 since July. I'd been hoping that I could break the cycle by talking to him. But he's been busy on IP addresses since then, so he still hasn't gotten the message that he needs to either get himself unblocked or stop editing. No idea what to do with this guy; this has been going on since June and he's still doing dozens of edits a day. WeisheitSuchen (talk) 13:45, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh wow, then please include that in the sockpuppetry case and with your evidence. Have you reported this before? A8  UDI  13:46, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was reported previously. I have a feeling that changing the archived version isn't actually the correct path to get things done; that doesn't actually put it on the list of things for an admin to review. This is why it's supposed to go through the sockmaster though, instead of separate investigations under the name of each sock. You can see my new request here, which links to the archived complaint. Since I already submitted a new request, do you want to undo your changes to the archived version? I don't want to confuse things if an admin goes to look at the archive and thinks X0X9 was already taken care of in the last round. WeisheitSuchen (talk) 14:12, 31 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah yes, please undo mine...thank you for correcting my sock case complaint.. as you can see, I've never used that function before :P A8  UDI  14:15, 31 October 2009 (UTC)


 * This was my first one too, but since I just did it a week ago it's fairly fresh in my memory. :) Looks like the two cases have been merged now, so it should all be good. Thanks! WeisheitSuchen (talk) 14:17, 31 October 2009 (UTC)


 * And now he's blocked. Dang, that was fast. :) WeisheitSuchen (talk) 14:20, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia: gettin' her dunnnn (I don't know) A8  UDI  14:31, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Photo insert for Sonja Herholdt
Hi there, have I done this correctly ?Pina Soares (talk) 14:40, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I fixed it for you :) A8  UDI  14:42, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank You tom, xxx--Pina Soares (talk) 14:45, 31 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I see it violated some copyright laws so they had to remove it. For more info on this, please ask the user who removed it; he'd be more familiar with that stuff than I would. A8  UDI  17:07, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Update questions
Hi again Tom. I would like to update 3 or 4 files on South African musicians here, can I do that ? I do not want to tread on anyones toes ! Many of them are LONG OVERDUE ON UPDATES, OR HAVE NO PHOTOS OF THE ARTISTS EPina Soares (talk) 14:54, 31 October 2009 (UTC)TC.
 * This might be difficult, but you'd need a picture that is not copyrighted; specifically the best source of this would be a press conference or any public appearance. A8  UDI  17:08, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

El Paso
Hello. These categories should remain just in the main article El Paso, Texas, as they don't specifically deal with the article about history of El Paso. - Darwinek (talk) 22:22, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * AH, ok. Awesome, sorry then. Happy halloween A8  UDI  22:30, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. Happy Halloween to you too :).--Darwinek (talk) 00:01, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

barnstar
here is a barnstar for signing my page.

OMGOSh, for me?! A8 UDI  23:25, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar
Hi, I wanted to thank you for the barnstar you gave me the other day :)  Pinkadelica ♣  00:20, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Aw I feel loved. PS I love Lady Gaga (I have a feeling gay male out there loves here :P) and Entourage too! A8 UDI  00:20, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

CHU
Thanks for the advice. I believe I am required to keep this username as part of my unban agreement. It is my cyberspace scarlet letter. I am OK with it. I have had it for years and no vandalism off-wiki. Happy Hallowe'en. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 00:27, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, but if you do decide to do it, you will lose nothing (though it does take a few hours "Up to 24" to import everything). Cheers A8  UDI  00:29, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Butyrospermum parkii
Please take care to first read the complete nonsense added to that article's etymology section before re-reverting my reversion of said nonsense. Thank you. 213.37.6.67 (talk) 00:26, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I just saw that you deleted a lot of info with no reason why.. I don't see the nonsense? A8  UDI  00:31, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Uh
I am kinda new here, did you post something on my page? I can't tell, but I have some link on my "Discussion" page that links to yours, thus me being confused... Can you explain?

-theSplane —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheSplane (talk • contribs) 00:26, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * lol, I gave you a big FAT welcome! and this: " A8 UDI  00:32, 1 November 2009 (UTC)" is my signature, but you may call me Tom. Don't forget to sign your posts on talk pages, such as this one, by simply typing ~  A8  UDI  00:32, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * The "A8" links to my userpage (general info about me) and the "UDI" links to this talk page. A8  UDI  00:37, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, okay, thanks! And I hope I am writing back to you correctly (This is my first time using Wikipedia User Talk), if I am doing anything wrong, please let me know :). TheSplane (talk) 00:39, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Just try to keep your cool, avoid acting like you're [always] right (took me some learnin' but I think got it down now.. haha) and don't be afraid! Take a glance at those Welcome links I posted on your talk page, as well as Manual of Style (what I'm personally anal about) and citing your sources and you'll be okay. :) WELCOME to Wikipedia! If you have any questions or problems don't be afraid to ask! Oh, you'll also want to avoid edit wars too, you don't want to be blocked!  A8  UDI  00:44, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

re: your message
A8UDI, I've left a reply to your message on my talk page -- User:Marek69. 02:24, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Altered Speedy Deletion rationale: Dying hole
Hello A8UDI, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I have deleted a page you tagged (Dying hole) under a criterion different from the one your provided, which was inappropriate or incorrect. CSD criteria are narrow and specific to protect the encyclopedia, and the process is more effective if the correct deletion rationale is supplied. Consider reviewing the criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. Thanks again! MLauba (talk) 09:31, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. A8  UDI  12:00, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Welcome
Thanks for the cookies. Mrtvi Nhad (talk) 17:57, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought you'd like em! A8  UDI  17:57, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Re:edit
That wasn't a vandalism, but me undoing another vandalism. Someone had switched the article talking about the TV show from the home and garden network with some random article about a doctor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aikiboy1111111 (talk • contribs) 18:06, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Try again diff link. A8  UDI  18:09, 2 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Aikiboy, according to the edit history of both articles (here and here), the only user to switch the content was you - and you switched them to the wrong locations. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 18:10, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Fox News Channel
Hey man, you might want to modify this edit to clearly indicate to whom you're replying. As it reads now, it looks like you're responding to the comment just above yours, even though I'm pretty sure you're actually talking to Arzel. Also, I moved your other comment to appear after Arzel's text instead of in the middle. //Blaxthos ( t / c ) 22:09, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * thank ya. I prob should have done that. A8  UDI  22:27, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi
Sorry to bother you, but you're the first editor that I came across. I believe this page - John Robert Watson needs to be deleated or moved to a user page as it appears to be a personal page concerning a user. I wasn't too sure if I should add a speedy deletion warning or something else. If there is another place I should have mentioned this, please let me know. Despite being a user here for a while, I'm still learning. Thank you! :) JuneGloom07 (talk) 23:02, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Lemme check it out. A8  UDI  23:04, 2 November 2009 (UTC)


 * OH yea, thats definitely an A7 criterion for CSD... and a COI of the creator too.. the username is that person's name; forbidden. A8  UDI  23:05, 2 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for that. Btw, the user Jbak09 has created another page along the same lines as last time. I saw you were the one who placed the warning on their last created page (something about a swuggle?). JuneGloom07 (talk) 23:28, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll look into it. And Swuggle was another nonsense article. A8  UDI  23:30, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I see no other contributions by him. A8  UDI  23:31, 2 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Here it is - Talk:Swuggle. JuneGloom07 (talk) 23:34, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Labova
Thanks for reverting my edits. But you should googlesearch first on "Labova": there are two of them! By the way, it's spelt "Labova" or "Labovë" without the article. User:Guildenrich 23:30, 2 November 2009 (UTC)


 * hi let me look into it. A8  UDI  23:34, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * do you have a diff link? thanks. A8  UDI  23:36, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

anarchism
hi. i dont know why you came to the article egoist anarchism and decided to erased a lot of new things i added. i reverted to my version since what you did is very strange o r i think here they call it vandalism.--Eduen (talk) 23:32, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * bad judgement on my part, sorry. A8  UDI  23:34, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

swuggle
Hi Tom, I'm sorry you were unhappy at my entry of Swuggle. I am new to the site and after discussing the term with my girlfriend decided to enter it. I checked to see if there are similar entries and seen there was "huggle" and "fuggle" so presumed it would be ok. I was also going to add a second defention I'd come across:(swuggle - 1 definition - verb - to drink excessively, especially cheap domestic beer inside of low class bars or in outdoor urban locations), not the most classy of defentions I must admit. If you can advise me on entering it properly then please email me.

Jamie (jamiebakeruk@yahoo.co.uk) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbak09 (talk • contribs) 23:53, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi there, I think WP:NOT would help clarify things. Even if swuggle was an actual word, Wikipedia is not a dictionary; unless it had some meaningful significance; like a company would for example. Those links on the welcome message, such as the 5 pillars of Wikipedia may help you too. A8  UDI  23:56, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

WP:NEWT
Hi there A8UDI. I want to inform you that you were unwittingly part of an experiment of newbie treatment in which I participated under a different name. The purpose of WP:NEWT is to determine how experienced users would be treated if they were new users and created sub-standard but viable articles. You can find a recollection of my experience at WP:NEWT in case you are interested. Last but not least I want to apologize for having used your time in this way, diverting it from real work on the encyclopedia. If I can offer my time and services for anything you need in return, feel free to ask at any time. Regards  So Why  08:28, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey at least I passed! Actually I do have a tiny problem: if you could tell me if the user in the above section (this) if he has any reasoning for his "personal attacks"; when in reality he has a long history of POV pushing in all Republican/conservative related & Fox News Articles. I feel like I can't reason with him sanely so I must use stronger language to get the point across, but I dontthink that constitutes a personal attack, as much as he'd love to silence his critics. A recent discussion on Talk:Fox News Channel#bias lead to the above diff link comment. And for the record, no one agreed with his "interpretation" of a poll discussed in that section. I'd also like to point out he has been on ANI numerous times and on ANI/pov noticeboard? something like that. I'd like to work on the FNC page but anyone that edits FNC that put anything remotely "biased" he takes down and makes ridiculous claims that no one understands: he's a known POV pusher. Thanks. OH and can I getta name, SoWhy? A8  UDI  11:13, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I would not say it's a personal attack but it's unnecessary nonethelesss. You disagree with him, fine. So does the majority of users? Even better for you. But calling someone a "POV pusher" and their arguments "stupid" in an edit summary is not helping. Such people will (as the above section on your talk page illustrates rather perfectly) not "get the point" if you use such language, they will rather feel attacked and thus be less likely to listen to your arguments. I have found in my time here that it's always the best if you stay civil and neutral at all times and never ever comment on another user directly, no matter how much they annoy you. Don't call someone a "POV pusher", rather comment that you think the tag was misplaced. Don't call their arguments "stupid", rather point out that they are not consistent with policy. Comments in written form tend to be easily misunderstood because no one can know how you meant them and it's best to try and avoid any misunderstandings from the beginning. If someone is disruptive, then we have mechanisms in place to deal with them. But there is no need to do so in edit summaries. PS: Could you explain what you mean with your last comment "OH and can I getta name, SoWhy?"? Regards  So Why  11:28, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Good to know, thanks. I mean, what's your first name?  A8  UDI  12:00, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * "So", of course :-p (sorry, couldn't resist) MLauba (talk) 12:31, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * hahaha.. Is that German too? A8  UDI  12:33, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * It's Alessandro, although I don't know why you would want to know. oO Regards  So Why  12:49, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * It's your gay stalker obviously... or because Wikipedia is interpersonal and SoWhy is a strange salutation. A8  UDI  12:51, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, I don't mind being called "SoWhy", it's my nickname so it's still me you address ;-) Regards  So Why  12:55, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Can I be your gay stalker anyways? bahahah (I'm kidding... although I would like to learn German... n Dutch) A8  UDI  12:56, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Somehow I think there are more interesting people to stalk than me. You'd probably die from boredom if you stalked me. And I cannot think of a reason why anyone would want to learn German, it's a complicated language that does not even sound good - if you want to learn a language, learn Italian. Everything sounds like in an opera if you say it in Italian ;-) Regards  So  Why  13:05, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Italian and French... gahhhh... there's this cute french guy in my linguistics class... can't handle it. A8  UDI  18:28, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Punk in Yugoslavia
Hi, thanks for correcting the references in Punk in Yugoslavia. Im a former wikipedia editor and Im not willing to come back, that's why I don't have a username. I just wanted to check what's happening with this article after a long time. Its not the first time that this article is being vandalized, so can you please keep an eye on it? Please dont let the vandal revert to the unsourced version. If you dont mind I would also suggest a cleanup of the "Yugoslav wars" section, its chaotic. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.126.255.55 (talk) 18:05, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * no problem. A lot of us patrol recent changes so we'll see it happen. A8  UDI  18:27, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey
Thanks, :D Do you know if there are any template pages, like...telling people the templates that are available? -- R3ZN2H8 Speak  —Preceding undated comment added 18:49, 3 November 2009 (UTC).
 * Nope, just install Twinkle and Friendly in your preferences... takes 2 clicks. A8  UDI  19:14, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, Thanks. R3ZN2H8 Speak 15:14, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * PS for a new user you figured out how to get a nice signature really quickly A8 UDI  16:47, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

IPs blanking their talk page..
Hey, did you warn this IP for blanking their talk page? IPs are allowed to do so, provided they don't remove (active) blocks or whois/sharedip notices. In any case, it's sort of nice when they do so because we know they've seen the warnings. tedder (talk) 20:20, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh no, I'm aware of that. I was referring to Antonio Pigafetta. Even though he blanked it once, he vandalized it enough times for a level 4 warning. (Probably should have used the vandalism level 4 warning though). A8  UDI  20:22, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, no problem. Obviously didn't mean to DTTR or anything, but the timing and lack of article pointer made me wonder. No worries, carry on :-) tedder (talk) 20:24, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Appreciate the look out though Tedder =) A8  UDI  20:25, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Re: November 2009
Hey, thanks for telling me about assuming good faith on Bigger. Normally, I wouldn't have used all caps, but that user has been doing that on a lot of the pages that I watch. He has been asked not to put links to the dates by other users, as well as me, not to do it. So, I just figured that the caps might help. Cougars2012 (talk) 18:50, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, given that he has been sufficiently warned and assuming that he has read it, if all he's doing is putting around dates, it's really not a big deal... it's not vandalism so it's one of those things that you just need to brush off and say 'whatever'... one thing about Wikipedia Ive learned is that you can't always have your way. Using all caps in an edit summary, however, will not help you out though... I can promise you that.  A8  UDI  20:13, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Banging our Heads Against a Wall
I am not sure how much good a warning to that IP will do. It is already blocked and in edits removed by other editors has promised to continue vandalizing on return. I think the only way to stop the posting of such material is to semi-protect their talk page, but, I believe that is generally not done. DSRH |talk 19:06, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * An admin can block him/her from editing their own talk page. A8  UDI  19:06, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks like they have stopped for now. If I have that talk page watch listed.  If they come back I will see if I can get an Admin for assistance.  DSRH |talk 19:09, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * okie doke. A8  UDI  19:10, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

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