User talk:ACB Smith/sandbox/HDMcharacters

,, - I'm sorry to bother, but I've been thinking about how to actually organise this page, and I've put together how it might look so that additional characters from the new books don't make it unreadable. For an example of another character page that I created/organised, see List of The Magicians Characters - I think that does organisation well.

What do you think about:
 * This organisation
 * Moving all the 'main characters' to the sections of the book they were first introduced in
 * If keeping a main character section, adding Hannah Relf and Malcolm Polstead and removing Iorek, as there isn't much from his point of view. Arguably, remove Asriel, too.

I figured this was a significant enough change to warrant discussion before implementation - I didn't want to just jump in on this. Thoughts? Smith (talk)  12:50, 6 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I've barely looked at that page so I'm not a great person to ask. Frankly, at a glance, I think it has bigger problems... it could do with a lot of copyediting to get rid of unnecessary words, there are formatting problems like quotes being italicised needlessly, and lots of missing citations, such as the notes about who plays characters in the films. There's also a lot of stuff missing that would stop the page just being yet another list, such as critical response, themes, influences, etc. Sorry none of that addresses the specific things you brought up. Popcornduff (talk) 13:00, 7 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I second many of PCD's comments. Also some character info duplicates unnecessarily and is borderline fan-cruft at times. I would be reluctant to suggest a strategy until it becomes clear what the demands of Bk of Dust are going to be, but I can see the value of having a 'character list' which is distinct from the individual books, in the same way as places and 'worlds' and 'species' exist as lists. These all collate info. Pincrete (talk) 12:16, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I will honestly say that I'm not really sure what to do to improve this article. Lists like these are incredibly hard to handle, very few of them are good.★Trekker (talk) 13:04, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I would start by giving it a ruthless copy edit. Ask yourself about every word, and every sentence: is this necessary? Does it provide useful information? If not, delete. Delete delete delete. But then, that's where I start with everything. Popcornduff (talk) 13:14, 9 November 2017 (UTC)