User talk:ACP2011/Archive 14

DYK for John Herbert Hedley
Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Bruce Digby-Worsley
Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:05, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Harold Stackard
This DYK nomination dates back to March! I cannot find a sentence with a citation in this article to back up the DYK hook. Perhaps I have missed it. I have suggested an alternative hook. Many more DYK nominations are made with images than can be included on the front page, which is restricted to one image per batch. In the articles which I write and nominate, I only include an image with the hook if it looks good when small and is relevant to the main thrust of the article. In this nomination, the image is good but is peripheral to the article. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:22, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for putting a notice on my talk page. It makes it much easier to answer quickly. Your suggestion is fine. I'm putting a more detailed answer on the nom page. Anne (talk) 08:50, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Be not easily disheartened
Hello, Anne,

I note that on a couple of occasions, you have found the criticism of other contributors to be disheartening. I hope that I may lend you some perspective on criticism.

In the case of Bruce Digby-Worsley, the editor critiquing you seemed to have valid concerns but turned out to have less knowledge of the subject than yourself. This sometimes happens here on WP. In this particular case, I hope that you learned more about parrying this sort of criticism. I also hope that my reply educated the other party without offense. Certainly, I learned about how articles about World War I aces can give the deceptive appearance of copyright violations, despite our earnest efforts to be original.

Do not be dismayed when WP contributors "senior" to you critique you. As in the above example, the appearance of knowledgeability can be a false front. Even if it is not, it is an opportunity for you both to learn and to educate another. Best of all, you can make an even better contribution to this cathedral of information that we are building.

I admire and respect your contributions.

Georgejdorner (talk) 15:47, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, George. I've found your suggestions to be very helpful. Anne (talk) 16:00, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I would agree with Georgejdorner. I think you have done very well and achieved a lot since you started editing, - which was in February I think. "Daliwch ati", as we say in Wales. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:41, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thirded. NtheP (talk) 18:43, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, everyone. Yes, it was Feb 22. I expanded George's stub on Lionel Ashfield, on a lark. It was only because I was a Find A Grave contributor and the day before, on Feb 21, I had researched and written a memorial for Lionel. I found the stub and thought I could use my research material for Lionel on Wikipedia. And, now, I'm addicted. Anne (talk) 01:09, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK advice
Hi, and thanks for reviewing my DYK nomination for me - I hope you don't mind if I ask for some further help with the process. Do I need to do anything else myself now, or do I just leave it and will clerks (or someone) see to the process? -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 19:13, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. I answered on your talk page and at your DYK nomination last night. Anne (talk) 11:26, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Got it, thanks! -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:33, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for George Hubert Kemp
Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:06, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Livesey Hall War Memorial
Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:09, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

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William Spencer (navigational instrument maker)
Great job on William Spencer (navigational instrument maker), Ann. I would request that you consider doing the ranking on the talk page templates. Add class=C|importance=low on all the relevant templates on your own initiative. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:29, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. Are you sure I'm not going to get some frowns from others on Wikipedia for ranking my own article? I'm happy to do it though for this article. I'm trying to learn how to do the coding on article talk pages, to make it easier for people rating my articles. Anne (talk) 12:52, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Anne, there is no problem with assessing you own work for C/Start/Stub class even B as long as you've read and understood the criteria. As commented it's much easier if people do some of their own assessments, I handle a lot of assessments for one project and having to assess 3000+ articles when the project first started was a labour of love.  It's only GA/A/FA assessments that need to be independently run.  Which leads me onto have you considered pushing any of your articles forward for GA the next level of assessment? It can be easy, it can be quite hard and at times it might seem quite petty but having had the experience it has made me a better editor as I know what is being looked for. NtheP (talk) 13:39, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what GA/A/FA assessments are. Does it refer to reassessing articles that have already been rated? Wait, I just realized. Does GA mean good article and FA mean featured article? Off the Wikipedia site, I keep my own list of the articles that I've written. Intermittently, I go back and work on an "old" article. How does one start the GA assessment process? Thank you. Anne (talk) 14:19, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Correct :-) To start a nomination you follow the process at WP:GAN but make sure you read the criteria first - I think there are several of your articles that could make it with a bit of work.  NtheP (talk) 16:01, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'll do it. Can you give me a hint which articles might be candidates? I know that I can't just go by initial ratings, because sometimes I move a piece to article space when I'm not quite finished, or I later find some great material to incorporate. For example, right now I'm working on John Browning again because I located new material which qualifies as from a reliable source. That's been one issue with these inventors and manufacturers. So much of the material I can't use because it's from or related to a site which sells their now antique goods. Anne (talk) 16:27, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * See my Peer review suggestion below. I will read over your articles and suggest one for the peer review. I would say wait until the peer review is done before making a nomination. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:18, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Anne (talk) 14:26, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of James Scaramanga
Hello! Your submission of James Scaramanga at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 20:19, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Please see new note on talk page. BTW, I think it would be appropriate to copy the section about Fleming naming the villain after George Ambrose Scaramanga to the Francisco Scaramanga article. Best, Yoninah (talk) 18:23, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Browning
Sorry about the edit conflict. These are some great articles you are writing. Ericoides (talk) 11:42, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the compliment and the help with editing. I appreciate your efforts. Those edit conflicts happen occasionally. I just have to shorten the time between saving pages. Anne (talk) 14:25, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I see that you have reverted some of my edits where I have deleted England or a county from a statement about where someone was born. Ask yourself whether this looks as ridiculous to you as those statements I've amended look to me: "Mr X was born in Dallas, Texas, USA" or "Miss Y was born in Portland, Oregon, USA" or "Herr Z was born in Berlin, Germany". Sometimes you can give too much information and the effect is exhaustion; one thinks, "Yes, but please just get to the point." Regards, Ericoides (talk) 14:06, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry. This gets confusing. When there's an edit conflict, I try to copy and paste and try to save most of the other person's edits, even though it's tedious. At other times, I can't see the other person's edits, because I've rearranged sections and/or sentences, so that an entire section is highlighted and not just edits. Then, of course, there's the issue of conflicting advice. I've had some editors admonish me for not including the name of the country, particularly if it's a location in the United States. It almost seems as though the advice depends on the person's country of origin. For example, if someone lives in the British Isles, they don't seem to find it necessary to include England or Wales in text. Whereas, someone like me, who lives in the United States, sometimes omits the USA in the text. Example: You've deleted the geographic info for Bristol in the lead and I've left it as you wish. But, if someone didn't live in Britain, I don't think that the average person would know exactly where that was. The other reason I've tried to keep some geographic info in the article is that this family was continually moving from England to Wales and back again, so it can get confusing for the reader. I do appreciate your help. Anne (talk) 14:23, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem; I agree, it's a bit confusing if you get conflicting advice. There's probably a policy document somewhere that would clarify it all. My feeling is that if you are talking about a country in consecutive paras – it could be the UK, but equally it could be Germany, Benin or Chile – it's tidier not to keep repeating the country name. Re Bristol, I don't think putting Gloucestershire after it is very helpful or indeed very usual. It's just Bristol. A big, historic place needing no qualification. Stroud, on the other hand, probably would so benefit. But these nuances are perhaps only obvious to someone from the UK. You carry on with the good work and ignore grumpy old curmudgeons like me... Ericoides (talk) 17:23, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for your help. And I definitely agree that if someone is in the same country from paragraph to paragraph, then there's no need to repeat the name of the country, even if the cities change. Anne (talk) 18:13, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I notice that you've added a link to the Clifton Antiquarian Club on the Tuckett page that I started (thanks!) and repeated this "Bristol, Gloucestershire" thing on the Clifton work-in-progress page. Apart from being unnecessary detail as I tried to explain above, "Bristol, Gloucestershire" is not at all accurate. Have a look at the Bristol, Gloucestershire and Avon (county) pages for the reasons why. Ericoides (talk) 09:40, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Good Morning. Thanks for pointing that out. I don't think I understood what you meant previously. After I read up, the light dawned. I'm going to correct it right now. Anne (talk) 10:37, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Peer review
I participated in a Peer review/Horseshoe Curve (Pennsylvania)/archive1, where an editor was seeking ideas for improvement, perhaps for a GA or FA nomination. The editor already achieved FA for the Johnstown Inclined Plane. I suggest that you ask for a peer review for the best article you have created, and as all the articles are historical or biographical, consider WikiProject History/Review. I am sure you will receive good advice on improving your article. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:16, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Anne (talk) 14:28, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Spencer, Browning & Rust
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 16:07, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Harold Stackard
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 16:10, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for John Browning (scientific instrument maker)
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:07, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for William Spencer (navigational instrument maker)
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 08:07, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Hey Anne
Ive just started Mary Ellen Bagnall Oakeley - she seems like an interesting lady and their are quite a few of hwer water colours on display in the museum. Fancy giving a hand? Victuallers (talk) 15:36, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd be happy to help. Anne (talk) 15:57, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll tidy up references first. Anne (talk) 16:02, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

slookin good!

 * If you can think of a better hook then please change it Victuallers (talk) 21:42, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, right off the bat I notice that you take no credit for the article. That has to change. You also made a comment about cutting down the photo. I wasn't sure what that meant. However, there is a second photo of Monnow Bridge that is available if you want to use that. Also, a hook photo has to be in the article. I think I'm going to track down that other photo. Let me know what you think. I'm going to just make some minor changes to the hook. I'm still working on the article, but it's really coming along. This is the first article on which I've done substantial collaboration with another person. It was kind of fun. Anne (talk) 14:42, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Please see changes above and comment below. Thanks. Anne (talk) 02:26, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for James Scaramanga
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 16:04, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Mary Ellen Bagnall Oakeley

 * Hi Anne, you said you were new to wiki so I feel I can say this. Be bolder! If you don't like whats on DYK then just change it! I think thats what Mary Ellen would have done. She seems to be a hell of a lady and deserves the article you have written for her. More info coming on articles required and next competition Victuallers (talk) 20:26, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. She was an amazing woman. All of her accomplishments and she managed to have at least nine children, too! Anne (talk) 23:40, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I thought DYK etiquette was that you weren't allowed to touch the original nomination. I've gone ahead and deleted most of my comments and made changes directly on the original nomination. It looks much tidier now. Thanks. Anne (talk) 02:23, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Others may have diff views Anne but I think that if you can't stand someone else changing your stuff cos they think its better then we are in the wrong place! "My?" article on Mary Ellen is transformed! I showed it to Andrew Helme the curator at the museum and he was very impressed. As for Bees for Development .... yes please! There is also W.A.Wall who might appeal. If you look below the Monmouth Museum page then you will see some of his pix but like Mary Ellen he had quite a few strings on his bow. Not a celeb ..... but a solid member of the community. Victuallers (talk) 06:35, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I made a lot more progress on the article on Mary Ellen yesterday and today. I'm trying to make it fairly comprehensive. Maybe we can eventually get it up to a "B." I'm going to work on the Bees refs this afternoon, to try to take that objection out of the equation. Anne (talk) 17:20, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Melville Waddington
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 08:04, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas Elliott (flying ace)
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 08:03, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Regimental Museum
If your worried about the review then you could post on DYK talk but I don't think there is a reason for concern. There is 10 days for a review to take place. Actually I might be able to review it as I can't remember making a significant edit. The 2nd challenge is "Geoffrey of Monmouth" challenge. Details are being unveiled. Of and Bees for Development - they go their QRpedia code up today! I'll post a pic Victuallers (talk) 16:56, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * OK. I have absolutely no idea what your last phrase meant. "they go their QRpedia code up today" Does that have something to do with MonmouthpediA? There's still so much Wiki lingo I don't know. On the plus side, I just (5 minutes ago) finished adding a paragraph to Bees for Development and included a "Telegraph" reference, since notability seemed to be an issue with the reviewer. I'm hoping that I can move the review along. I already did an extensive edit last week of the references. If you can do a review of Monmouth Regimental Museum, go for it! Thanks. Anne (talk) 17:26, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Second challenge
I happened to see your question. Yes, there is one, it seems, and I've just signed up for it. If you want to do so as well, go to GLAM/MonmouthpediA/Geoffrey of Monmouth Challenge/Points. Good luck! And rew D alby 18:52, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Great. I'll sign up today! Thank you. Anne (talk) 19:07, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Kittens!
Thank you so much for the review. I really appreciate it!

Keilana | Parlez ici 19:07, 8 May 2012 (UTC) 
 * You're very welcome. Cute photo! Anne (talk) 19:09, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Monmouth Town Walls and Defenses
Hello! Your submission of Monmouth Town Walls and Defenses at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!
 * Whatever the template above states, I haven't reviewed your article, the problem is with its title. It is also usual to use lower case for all but the first word of an article's title (except for proper names). Have a look at the Manual of Style. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:35, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I wasn't exactly sure what the Wiki rule was for this. I'm aware of the rule you mentioned above with regard to title. However, it's a scheduled monument with the same words capitalized in the record. So, does one change the name to lower case in that instance? The word house isn't normally capitalized, but if it's part of a title, then it is. Thanks again. Anne (talk) 13:11, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * When you write articles and want to use "English" English, if you leave a note on my talk page I will be happy to check the spelling for you. As for the capitalisation, it is a matter of judgement. WikiProject Birds has decided to capitalise all its bird names which I find quite awkward. It means you get sentences like "The Western Flutterby is larger than any other flutterby." Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:22, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I would appreciate that. The person below thinks that Monmouth Town Walls and Defenses needs to be written in British English. My familiarity with British English is limited to an awareness that the use of c, s, and z appears to be different from American English. I notice that occasionally when I read an article, for example, the word organize is spelled organise. I'll leave this message on your talk page, too. Thanks again. Anne (talk) 11:32, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * It looks like you won't need to change it to British English because Victuallers very kindly already did so! Anne (talk) 12:08, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Almost! I flinch when I see "...ize", but I know that some say it can be used in Brit Eng, so I'll try to force myself to accept it.  :-)  Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:18, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll also have a go at copy editing the article when I get a chance. Basically it's fine, but it needs to be written in British English, so there are a few spellings that I would change.  If the article is about Monmouth's defences (with a "c" !!), it should at least mention the role of the rivers themselves, which were fundamental to the town's defences.  The fact that organisations capitalise some words in their descriptions doesn't necessarily mean that we should, as our article should take a wider view in which the official recognition of the structures' importance is just one part.  The multiple references to Kissack's book should be tidied up as well. Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:30, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Victuallers has changed it to British English already, which is fantastic. The article might have gained a couple of capitals along the way! I'm fine with copyediting the article and changing the capitals with which you had concerns. My only concern is how to change the capitals in the title. A minor change was made to the title of Mary Ellen Bagnall Oakeley and now I can no longer access that nomination. I don't want to be the one who makes the nomination disappear, so if someone else could change the title, I'll take care of any capitals that are objectionable elsewhere. You mentioned the rivers. I'll be happy to include a paragraph referring to the role of the river in the town's defense. You mentioned Kissack as well. I'm not exactly sure to what you refer, but when I take a close look, it will presumably become evident. Thanks again. Anne (talk) 12:30, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, that was new for me. I checked out the Kissack references and all the pages were gone! I had been wondering why other contributors Kissack refs were offline. Now I guess I know. I wasn't able to use my previous search terms either. I consolidated the three Kissack refs all into one offline ref. Thanks. Anne (talk) 18:37, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the addition to the article! I went ahead and per your suggestion added a section on the rivers, also mentioning the ditches that were made in connection with the walls. Anne (talk) 18:56, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Clifton Antiquarian Club
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:04, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

33 Whitecross Street, Monmouth
Sorry, but I've cut out a lot of the material that is duplicated from other articles and which is unnecessary in this article. I was within a whisker of proposing the article for a merge with Whitecross Street, Monmouth - I would refer to it as a bog-standard Grade II listed building, of which there tens if not hundreds of thousands in the UK, but I accept that it may have some special interest. But there's no need to bloat the article by including every marginally relevant fact that can be found out about it, or its neighbo(u)rhood. I'm finding it increasingly vexing to have to deal with the masses of non-encyclopedic material that the Monmouthpedia initiative seems to be generating - the emphasis should be on quality articles, not just more and more articles for the sake of it! End of rant and time for bed. :-) Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:50, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I understand. Unfortunately, the hook fact for my DYK nom was deleted. Anne (talk) 23:18, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry (again). I'm trying to track down sources to create an article about plague crosses, which I think would be needed for your DYK hook to make any real sense.  But, I also think that any reference to the origins of the street name should be in the article on Whitecross Street, rather than in the article on the building itself.  If getting a DYK credit is important to you, perhaps a reference could be reintroduced to the article - though changing article text simply to make it suitable for gaining personal credits in that way is not a course of action I'm personally comfortable with.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:09, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Mary Ellen Bagnall Oakeley
Carabinieri (talk) 08:02, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Monmouth Alms Houses
Carabinieri (talk) 08:02, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Middle Stone Age Monmouth
Carabinieri (talk) 08:03, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Orphan tags
I must not understand the purpose of orphan tags. At least two of my new articles just received orphan tags this week. How would a new article be expected to have been linked by multiple other articles? Is it perhaps the anticipation of few links, and, therefore, the attempt to ward it off? Thanks Anne (talk) 11:22, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * One way of doing this is to enter the new article name into the Search box, click "Search" (not "Go"), and see where the article title has been included in the text of other articles. Then, go to those articles, and add the wikilinks to the new article.  Regards, Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:56, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I've actually done that in the past for a couple of my articles. I'm thinking that maybe I should do it routinely. I think I'll start at the top of the list of my articles and work my way down. Anne (talk) 10:04, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Whitecross Street, Monmouth
Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Monk Street, Monmouth
Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:03, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Masonic Hall, Monmouth
Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:03, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 33 Whitecross Street, Monmouth
Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Middle Stone Age Monmouth
What are your views on the proposal to rename that article, as discussed on its talk page? If you agree, it can be moved easily, but if there is a need to discuss it further I will propose it formally at WP:RM. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:30, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't have any strong feelings on the subject, primarily because at the time of writing the article I had seriously considered "Mesolithic Monmouth." Anne (talk) 10:50, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK Nominations
Is it possible to just lose a DYK nomination? I created a nom for St James Square, Monmouth earlier today (hours ago) and for the life of me, I can't find it. Anne (talk) 22:57, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Exceptional Newcomer Barnstar
Thank you. Anne (talk) 00:24, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Bullets and Prose
I asked this question a number of weeks ago and never received an answer. However, a DYK reviewer inadvertently just answered my question. I have been placing bullets in front of the paragraph for each building when I compose an article about a street, to make the article easier to read. The reviewer just indicated that in doing so, I've converted the article into one that just passes for length, with the bulk of the article now a "list." Personally, I think that it is a crazy Wikipedia rule. Should I remove all the bullets on my street articles? What is the convention when buildings and their descriptions are included in an article? Thank you. Anne (talk) 11:59, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:Bromley War Memorial 2.jpg
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 * I'm confused. I indicated the source and the author with all the information. When you click on the source, it brings you right to the image with the license that appears to match the license that I used. What is meant by proof or evidence of permission? Is there some type of special tag other than a license? I don't understand. Anne (talk) 21:53, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for St James Square, Monmouth
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:05, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Sisera's mother
Actually, the hook ref you mentioned at Template:Did you know nominations/Sisera's mother was on Google books - I've added it now. StAnselm (talk) 22:32, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Great. I'll take a look at it. Anne (talk) 00:16, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Monmouth Regimental Museum
Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 00:03, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * And thanks for all your help! Anne (talk) 00:13, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for St James Street, Monmouth
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:04, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

25 Did you knows
Thank you!!! Anne (talk) 08:56, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Deletion review of AfD that you participated in
As you participated a few days ago in Articles for deletion/Flat Bastion Road, I thought you might wish to know that the result of that discussion (to keep the article) is being challenged in a deletion review. If you have any views on this (i.e. whether to endorse the result, overturn it or something else) then please feel free to comment at Deletion review/Log/2012 October 2. Prioryman (talk) 22:00, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK nominations
Hi Anne, I've nominated two of your recent articles for DYK - see Template:Did you know nominations/Main Guard and Template:Did you know nominations/Flat Bastion Magazine. Prioryman (talk) 00:56, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * This should be interesting. Thank you. Anne (talk) 10:21, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's quite a frothy discussion so far. :-) I've also nominated Template:Did you know nominations/Nun's Well, Gibraltar. I'll keep an eye on your contributions for other new articles. You're doing great work - please keep it up! Prioryman (talk) 12:11, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. When you have a chance, could you take a look at Streets in Gibraltar, section Devil's Tower Road? I finished it yesterday evening, after completing the main article and now someone (Nvvchar) has added misspellings, incorrect information-tower dismantled 2004, a tunnel which doesn't belong in this section, and one source, which doesn't back up the claims and is named (Ha! Ha!) "Gibralatarpedia". Is this a joke??? I assume its vandalism. Any thoughts??? I plan on reversing the edit today. Anne (talk) 16:16, 11 October 2012 (UTC) P.S. Section also has inserts like "noinclude" with . Anne (talk) 16:39, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Just looked at DYK for the first time in a week. Wow! Major change for the girl relegated to the back of the bus! Thank you. Anne (talk) 16:39, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Nun's Well, Gibraltar
The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for North Front Cemetery
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:02, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Re:Conversion template
Hi Anne. It seems the template is using different conversion rates depending on whether it's converting metres to feet or vice versa. I'm no good with the coding of these things but if you notify people on the template's talk page I'm sure someone will look into it.

By the way, awesome job on the batteries of the Upper Rock! I've created a fortifications navbox which I'm including in each article and links them all together. --Gibmetal 77 talk 2 me 16:40, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! And now I know what a navbox is! I'll make a comment on the talk page for the conversion template. Anne (talk) 19:36, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Breakneck Battery
I reviewed your usual fine job done on creating the Breakneck Battery article. I fixed the Template:Fortifications of Gibraltar to use Battery, not battery, and added it to the article. I suspect there are other opportunities to link to this battery from other battery articles. --DThomsen8 (talk) 15:50, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I'll link it to other articles today. I already started the process. Anne (talk) 15:54, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I should have known that you were already onto that process! --DThomsen8 (talk) 16:17, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Anne, just seen your message. Unfortunately this isn't a well known battery in Gibraltar as it's out of bounds. To be honest I'd never even heard of it until I started work on the list of fortifications! Will let you know if I come across anything... Oh and well done in covering yet another battery! :) --Gibmetal 77 talk 2 me 00:08, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Anne (talk) 00:19, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Anne, thanks for the thanks. I have been very lucky today and found a picture of the Royal Calpe pub which is decorated within with fox hunt memorabilia and pics - Ive put it in Commons Royal Calpe group. The Royal Calpe is one of my favourite pubs when I go to Gib as the staff are goog hosts and the wi fi works. Its also the favourite of the Gib Chronicle and the Librarian from the Garrison Library (she is a Royal Calpe Enthusiast). I'm confident we can get a plaque outside the pub and inside maybe. Oh and I sent you a mail ... Victuallers (talk) 18:22, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Great. I'll research it this week and see if we can come up with enough for an article! Oh, and did you mean email? Anne (talk) 18:56, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Spur Battery photos
Hi Anne

I took quite a few photos of Spur Battery recently on commons, worth having a look (no guarantee of photographic skill), I've still got quite a few to upload, please ask me or Tommy for things there aren't pictures of you want.

Mrjohncummings (talk) 14:34, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Perfect timing! I just went online to submit it for DYK, but saw your message! Before I do that, I'll take a look at your photos and see whether I can add some to my article. Thank you! Anne (talk) 14:45, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Gibnews is no news
Thanks for your comments. Although wishing Gibraltarpedia well, my experience with Wiki* was not positive. I was accused of trying to use it to promote my websites and there seems to have been a campaign to remove all the contributions I made to wikipedia and even the original images I donated to the commons have been systematically deleted. It comes as no surprise that people want to ban Roger Bamkin - even if all he did was promote wikipedia editing and train unpaid people in how to do it in Gibraltar. As this was a success and a flood of articles were created about the Rock, which has more history per square metre than most places, its not surprising that some of it got featured. No surprise either that the forces of darkness have reacted. However, I shall maintain my 'disenchanted' and 'detached' position as have better things to do, like watching the seagulls do what they do do. --Gibnews (talk)
 * Why thank you Gibnews. I travel around working out who is going to misinterpret my actions next. I don't think you are a natural ally of the Gib project so I'm really pleased to see your summary of what we've been doing in Gib. And you are there and watching what is going on. All the grown ups are complaining that we need more editors - as you say we have created a few and re-enthused some others. I do wish we could spread the news of what we are doing and stop talking about what we are not doing. So you've made my evening. (I only came here to check up on Anne). Thank you Gibnews - I just need to remove your "disenchanted" self assessment. I think I'll send you an email... Victuallers (talk) 22:37, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Gibraltar 2
Hello! Your submission of Gibraltar 2 at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! George Ho (talk) 14:54, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Re: Opinion requested
Hi Anne, it's pretty much good night here now (23:30). I was actually about to leave you a message regarding the same article, but I'll answer your question first. It's a well written comprehensive article and I would most definitely say a planned movie is notable. If anything, the mention of the Bond movie and the other things the Earl and Countess of Wessex got up to during their visit may be superfluous and I don't think it adds anything to the article.

I wanted to point out the differentiation between Operation Tracer and Stay Behind Cave (Braithwaite's Cave). The former was the actual plan to seal servicemen inside The Rock should the Germans have invaded and the latter is the physical site of the military facilities. At the moment, the article seems to confuse these two a little - "Operation Tracer [...] is in Gibraltar". I don't think a plan should have a military structure infobox... This problem should be easy to rectify though. It may even be worth having a separate article on Stay Behind cave (the location), what do you think?

Not sure how much 70F is, we use Celsius here. Temperature definitely dropped here today too down to 11C (don't think it compares to where you are but that's pretty cold for us in autumn!). No snow here, I think the last time it snowed was in the 1930s... --Gibmetal 77 talk 2 me 22:33, 12 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your feedback. I haven't been sure what to do about the naming issue or the info box. It caused me a little frustration when I started the article. My understanding is that the term Stay Behind Cave was just a name that developed over the decades because locals didn't have any information about the name of the cave or even verification of its existence. At the time that it was built, it was apparently referred to informally as Braithwaite's cave, based on the name of a commanding officer involved in the construction. In the one document for which we have the transcription, it's always referred to as Operation Tracer or Tracer. Also, even Jim Crone on the first page of his info indicates: "Gibraltar's infamous Stay Behind Cave or Operation Tracer to give it its proper name was one of the best kept secrets of WW2." Which brings me to the other side of the problem that I saw right away and which you've touched on: the info box. Before I started the article, I looked at info boxes for other military operation articles. In all the cases that I looked at, they either had no info box or used Infobox military conflict. If you look at that info box, you'll see that it just doesn't fit this situation. Plus, I would lose the ability to include the map with the location in the info box (and the nice little second image with the view out the observation slit). And, with regard to your last point, I'm convinced that if I did a separate Stay Behind Cave article, it would be summarily deleted, with the rationale that all the information was available in my Operation Tracer article. People are really gunning to delete my work these days.


 * Since this is a specialized military operation that involved the construction and outfitting of a location and the training of people to live there, I used a location info box. What I will do is remove the titles at the top that say Braithwaite's Cave and Part of Fortifications of Gibraltar. In the body of the article, I will make it clear that it was casually known as Braithwaite's Cave and how it's become known as Stay Behind Cave. (I'll also delete some of the information that you mentioned above.) And 70F is about room temperature, which is amazing for November. Thank you! Anne (talk) 23:47, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Gibraltar Ranges
Anne, were you planning to come back to this review at some point? Hawkeye asked a question about your most recent points there, hoping to get guidance about what the specific issues were and what needed to be fixed. Thanks for anything you can do to get this nomination moving forward again. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:54, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll be happy to help. Anne (talk) 09:11, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Great. Thank you so much. Other articles have been running into trouble, and I'm hoping this one will be more easily fixed. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:14, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Queensway (Gibraltar)
Can you expand this?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld  14:44, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK nominations of Green's Lodge Battery and Rock Gun Battery
Please see Template:Did you know nominations/Green's Lodge Battery, which has some outstanding issues. Moonraker (talk) 11:20, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Soldier Artificer Company
Hi Anne, thanks for the work you did on the draft article at User:ACP2011/Soldier Artificer Company. I've taken the liberty of taking this over and expanding it - you can see the results at Soldier Artificer Company. Prioryman (talk) 09:26, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Lord Airey's Shelter
Mifter (talk) 12:04, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Devil's Tower Road
KTC (talk) 16:02, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Breakneck Battery
Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:02, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Vernon Haggard
The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Helen McCourt DYK
Hi Anne. Thanks for the feedback on the Murder of Helen McCourt article. Unfortunately, although I am listed as having expanded it I only made a minimal contribution to it. BabbaQ has left a message on my talk page saying he will make the necessary changes, but if he doesn't get round to it I wonder if you could do me a small favour. Because I edit with the use of a screen magnifier and text-to-speech software pinpointing some of the problems may be difficult for me. If you could provide me with a full list of the issues it would be very helpful, and I'd be happy to sort them out. I notice a few are listed already, but if there are more please let me know. Thanks in advance for your cooperation. Paul MacDermott (talk) (disclaimer) 12:01, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Paul! I've been keeping track of the nomination and article and, as of a few minutes ago, there still haven't been any revisions. So, I just left a brief message for BabbaQ, as I agree with you that BabbaQ appears to be the primary contributor. The issues in the article are as already mentioned: 1) close paraphrasing and 2) matching of references. Two refs also need to be consolidated. I can assist later with small copyedits for punctuation, etc. I'll continue to monitor the nomination. Anne (talk) 22:31, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Anne. Thanks for getting back to me. Looks like BabbaQ still hasn't returned, so I'll take a look at the article over the weekend and do what I can to rescue it. It might take me a couple of sessions to work my way through it though. Paul MacDermott (talk) 20:25, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi again. Still no sign of BabbaQ, so I've had a quick look at the article this evening and addressed the issues you highlighted in the review. I've merged the refs from the Express and taken out the incorrectly placed Wigan Today source. Also tweaked the highlighted sentences to move them away from directly copied stuff. Let me know if there's anything else and I'll take another look. Cheers Paul MacDermott (talk) 18:48, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Paul. I'll take a thorough look at the article again today and, hopefully, we can wrap it up! Anne (talk) 12:37, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Paul, the article is all set to go! Anne (talk) 15:02, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * That's fantastic. Thanks for your help. Paul MacDermott (talk) 17:33, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Sidney Gambier-Parry
The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 5 May 2013 (UTC)