User talk:AFBorchert/Archives/2007

Clonard Abbey photos
Great contributions, thank you! Dppowell 16:43, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your nice notice, Dppowell, I'm glad that you like the pictures. Regards, AFBorchert 21:55, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Lanfranc and Bishop Odo
Hi. Saw your edit on the WP:KENT page and that you were interested in certain ecclesiastical elements of Kentish history. As a new article related to Lanfranc, I thought I'd bring Trial of Penenden Heath to your attention. Any comments or new sources/references that you may have would be very much appreciated. Thanks for popping by. Dick G (talk) 10:47, 22 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Dick, thanks for your pointer to your interesting new article. I'm however no expert of English or Kentish church history, my main focus is medieval Irish church history. Hence, I cannot give you any comments except for the following minor point: Lanfranc was not Norman, he was just the prior of a Norman monastery, i.e. Bec. He was born in Pavia c. 1010 and educated in northern Italy. He felt quite foreign in Canterbury: I pleaded that the language was unknown to me and the native races barbarous, but to no avail ... I accepted the appointment, I arrived, I took office. Now I endure so many troubles and vexations every day--such hardness of heart, greed and dishonesty--that I am weary of my life. (excerpts from one of his letters) --AFBorchert (talk) 21:40, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the pointer, will clarify where I can. Interesting excerpt too. Kind regards Dick G (talk) 04:48, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * You'll find his letters in Helen Clover and Margaret Gibson (editors): The Letters of Lanfranc, Archbishop of Canterbury, Oxford Press, 1979, ISBN 0-19-822235-1. I do not currently have a copy of this book, just copies of his correspondence with Ireland and of the index. From the index it appears that this letter collection does not include anything that directly concerns the Trial of Penenden Heath but it is an interesting lecture which helps to understand him better. Some of his correspondence is also included in the corresponding edition of his successor: Walter Fröhlich (editor): The Letters of Saint Anselm of Canterbury, 3 volumes, Cistercian Publications. Kind regards, AFBorchert (talk) 06:53, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks again. Dick G (talk) 08:20, 28 November 2007 (UTC)