User talk:AJ9/January 2012

New pages & Infobox
Hey there. I'm sorry I didn't get back to you yesterday I wasn't online. Do you still want me to help you neaten the storylines? I saw you were chatting with Musicfreak, is he helping you too now? Do you still need my help? If not I understand but I would really love to :) Get back to me :) !! Oh and yes I agree that Emily Peterson should be deleted and moved to your new page. Creativity97 (talk) 21:38, 10 January 2012 (UTC
 * I proposed a merger on the Emily Peterson page for people to discuss, we shouldn't just move the page. Musicfreak7676 (talk) 21:47, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * No the more, the merrier. Yes pleaaase do help work on the storylines and stuff ;) thanks. Oh about the Emily page im not sure about moving it, isn't that just in my sandbox for now? Im just experimenting with it lol but yes a merger will be good.  Soap Jar 21  Talk To Me 21:52, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Well it's there for discussion, and if a consenseous is reached, it'll either be merged or kept as is. Musicfreak7676 (talk) 21:54, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * True but i doubt it won't be merged. Look at it..lol.  Soap Jar 21  Talk To Me 22:05, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Emily lacks verification. She isn't important, bringing her back last year was stupid. Musicfreak7676 (talk) 22:09, 10 January 2012 (UTC)


 * exactly. tbh i didn't even see when she came back lol.  Soap Jar 21  Talk To Me 22:11, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * To waste our times and for MAB to have a reason to get someone to write something. Musicfreak7676 (talk) 22:13, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey MF i was wondering were you going to get any pics of Sam? That would be good. Don't bother about Ricky lol he doesnt really need one. Also if you could get some for 2010 characters (in your own time, im not in a particular rush) that would be good.  Soap Jar 21  Talk To Me 22:17, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I can definitely try, I can look into it for sure! Musicfreak7676 (talk) 22:20, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Hey I just had a question because you plan on merging all the minor characters in new character list pages, are you going to create a page for every year since 1973? Because I don't think you can do that it would be WAY TOOO MUCH work. Anyway I was just wondering your plans in the big picture. Let me know :) I'm gonna start working on improving some storylines like you said as well :) !! Creativity97 (talk) 00:56, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I feel as if we should keep it on the Misc. Characters, but the criteria of getting onto it is harder than it is. You should be on the series for X amount of time, and such. Not just new character = new profile. Musicfreak7676 (talk) 01:34, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey - I know I have not been any help to this next phase of the clean up - but I removed the non free images from the list as you aren't meant to have them in character lists. Creativity, it would take a lot of time to create lists like that - but imagine when one day they are done. You three should feel proud at what you are starting, you are gearing what I thought was a mess that could never be sorted - onto the correct footing. It is really positive. Rain  the 1  02:43, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Thankyou raintheone i didn't know that. Its okay. I was looking at EastEnders (which i love) and they have created a list for every year - its just MIND blowing and amazing. I was thinking we probably can't do it for every year that would take a year lol but we should do it in decades (1973-1980, 1980-1990, and have all years after 2000 or something). Raintheone whats your opinion on the 3rd infobox that MF wants to make? Also Creativity can you shorten Ronan's storyline? (From the 2010 page?) thanks! :)  Soap Jar 21  Talk To Me 08:27, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey Arre I posted a reply on my Talk Page. :D Musicfreak7676 (talk) 17:39, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I do not think a third information box is the right route to travel down to be honest. It was controversial when two were created - as a result there have been many discussions about merging them together - and more worrying attempts to delete either infobox as people from outside of the project thought it was too much to have two seperate infoboxes covering the same subject. So I'd say it would likely happen all over again. My personal view is that the infobox most used on US topics is an easy target for fancruft editors - as the parameters give them a chance to introduce much clutterish info that is better served explained in the article itself. Musicfreak made an interesting point about the colour field no longer being an option to prevent the trivial arguements. You could actually start a discussion at Template talk:Infobox soap character - with the aim of removing the field - then if approved the colour would be universal and match the second soap character infobox - that light blue colour. I do think creating a third infobox with merged items, would create an extra box we do not really need - and merging could just be done to create on infobox - which I hope one day - given a lot of time - may happen. Soapjar, as you say Eastenders have all those lists - I like this DEADLINE because it reminds us that we have forever to create this. So while you may create decade lists - after that you can see which would be better split into a year list - and so on until one day they all have separate well sourced lists. Rain  the 1  18:06, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Well I'm creating it anyway RTO as an OPTION for people. You can't turn something down that you've never seen before. I still this the soap boxes as you've been editing are now WAYY too simple and the laziness of "dates" like 2006-09 looks sloppy as I've expressed to SoapJar. Musicfreak7676 (talk) 18:08, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

MF I'm a lover of simplicity lol i don't mind about that. I feel that Over-detailed info-boxes look sloppy. Anyway im really intrigued with his 3rd infobox i think it seems cool (according to you MF, you aren't going through, its just an experiment from what i take in, right?). Yes true Raintheone it did cause controversy but the outcome is really outstanding. In my honest raw opinion, (if it was up to me, which it will never be) i would adopt the English & Australian infobox, the second one. I really don't like the current US one being use, like you said raintheone, it gives fancrufters an excuse to add so much. At the end of the day no matter how different the Soaps are they are still Soaps. MF i wouldn't call it lazy its just abbreviating years. No biggie.. And i would rather have (reffering to spouse/husband/wives just (2009-10) instead of (married, first time, divorced 2010 married second time) and all of that crap lol its just way more simple and easy. Anyway because i don't like the current infobox being used, thats why im really intrigued by this new one. But anyway i feel my MAIN goal isn't the info-box, but providing real world information and cleaning up long or terrible articles, u know what i mean? Thats my personal thing im striving for here. Thanksss MF i'll have a look now :)) xx  Soap Jar 21  Talk To Me 20:42, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * MF could you consider writing dates like that for simplicity purposes. The Havard student types on here do it - so it certainly ain't all that lazy. If you'd like to read up on the dates/number style guide - it is here WP:MOSNUM. Rain  the 1  21:04, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying that raintheone. I've actually always written dates like that. And its not a UK- non American thing either that form of writing dates is used all the time.  Soap Jar 21  Talk To Me 21:12, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know, the 2006-09 looks lazy and completely unprofessional to me. I don't know, must be my OCD because I have never written dates like that. Musicfreak7676 (talk) 21:23, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I didn't until I came on here, so you are not alone MF. :) Do you really have OCD - or was that a figure of speech? Rain  the 1  21:40, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * No, I really have OCD. It's not just a figure of speech. Musicfreak7676 (talk) 19:23, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Yeah sure I'll help looks like you need it :) I'll start later on tonight :) Get back to me !! Creativity97 (talk) 21:52, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello again I tried to shorten Ronan's storylines as you asked but I really don't know what happened with him on the show before he returned last August. I did what I could, but it was difficult. Also, about Tucker's storylines, I did the same thing but they were already pretty cleared up. But I did tweak a few things there too :) And before you [we] go on to create decade pages as you said we should clear up the 2000s pages first. And also I think we should leave the Children of The Young and the Restless page alone. It's in pretty good shape, I worked on it a lot a while back and I think it should remain the way it is. But I liked what you did with adding the children characters at the bottom of the page, they deserve to be there as they did join the show during that year :) By the way, who do you think killed Diane? I just want your opinion. I definitely think Deacon Sharpe and Patty Williams had something to do with it. Get back to me !! Creativity97 (talk) 23:35, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks creativity. Well thats because i took action and cleaned up Tucker's article because nobody seemed to help me with that sandbox. The Children page isn't in good shape. It has no sources or references and needs to be cleaned up too. Yes, the kids still entered the show in 2010/2011 and are characters so i just added that in. :) About Diane i really don't care anymore. I hate MAB's writing of the show...After 5+ months after Diane died, nobody really cares what happened. Its just ...she waited too long. I DEFINITELY think that Patty saw Diane naked in Jack's window and killed her out of rage - however im not sure yet. And i don't think Deacon KILLED Diane - but had something to do with it definitely.  Soap Jar 21  Talk To Me 11:11, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * SoapJar, I got your inquiries on my page. I will work on this this weekend... I have a busy few days and need some downtime as well. But I will do as you requested, no worries! Anyone else find it insulting to use another actress instead of Maura during Diane's sex tape? PS: I care what happened, no one murders my Maura and gets away with it~ Musicfreak7676 (talk) 19:23, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Okay well I'm gonna start working on the children's page, clear up some storylines ... maybe you could help me find some sources? I understand you're busy with the new pages and all but if you have any free time afterwards I would love and appreciate your help with the sources :) Let me know !! Oh and thanks for your opinion on Diane's murder, good prediction. And yes I agree its taken way too long to reveal the real killer. UGH! And PS - who's your favorite character on Y&R?? Mine's Phyllis -- just kidding! I know you hate her. Mine was Diane ... until her unfortunate departure. Mine include Victoria, Nick (who's being not very nice right now) Jack and Nikki, and Patty has begun to grow on me, hope she stays! Sharon was also one of my faves until the whole Skye murder mishap she is a different person to me, not to say I hate/dislike her, I'm just not liking her storylines at the moment :( Oh and my least favorites are Phyllis and Adam, hate them to death. Get back to me !! Creativity97 (talk) 23:23, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey Creativity! Hey do you have another name i can call you lol? Wait whose opinions are you talking about mine or MF? Well thanks if it was mine. Thanks about the children's page. Yes i will find some sources actually and work on that a bit ;). Yes MAB is a talentless writer. This murder thing has taken way to long - its been since JULY! Seriously? Lol almost half a year. Its silly. I HATE PHYLLIS i want to kill her myself. I loved the old Victoria - she was amazing played by Heather Tom. Amelia i thought was a weak actress at first but i really like her now, she has grown on me. Patty? I don't mind her! She is ENTERTAINING which Y&R needs. I used to like Nick, until MAB took over. She ruined Skye. Really? I thought you'd only been watching since 2011 and the Skye thing was in 2010..anyway lol i love Sharon. I don't care what she does. Sharon Case is amazing. I was actually happy when she went on the run - but they kept her away in a barn which was boring, and then she went to jail for months which was boring. Sharon is always my favorite person in Daytime television ALWAYS :). What do you think about the Diane murder?? - Soap Jar 21  TALK? 04:22, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Right - I have added the display title to all of the Y&R lists Soapjar. :) I'll keep an eye on your flickr for the images, or tell me when they are live. :) Rain  the 1  17:22, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Hey SoapJar thanks for the sources well done :) About the Diane murder I believe it was Nikki and she murdered Diane out of self defense. But I'm not sure about the rest ... who has been doing the blackmailing ... Deacon or Patty? Deacon has all the footage but Patty set it all up. Who knows! We'll have to wait and see. I know I said I've only been watching since 2011 but I've read so many storylines it feels like I've been watching forever :) MAB is Maria Arena Bell right?? What do you think about the Winters? I don't really like Neil anymore and Devon gets on my nerves after a while. Harmony is okay ... I would've much rather seen Dru come back!! I've never seen her onscreen as you may know. Anyway thanks about the sources and get back to me about your opinions on everything Y&R !! Creativity97 (talk) 22:14, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Your welcome anything to help Y&R. Yes it was Nikki, its already been revealed. I hate that it was Nikki. I wished it was Patty. Yes MAB is Maria and she is a terrible writer who ruined Y&R! She wrote this storyline very poorly. The Winters? Well i find them boring now adays. When Dru was alive - she was my favorite character. I loved Sharon too, but Dru was a strong women and was funny too and i loved that they became friends. Dru needs to come back. But MAB wouldn't risk it. If they bring Victoria Rowell back it could jeopardize others. But Sophia, Devon, etc are boring to watch. And Lily is too - she is such a "goody-goody" even though she is an adult. Its boring lol.  Soap  Jar   11:05, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

I figured it was Nikki. I haven't watched the entire episode yet :) Yeah I wish Patty had more to do with it. Anyhow I won't say anymore I want to be surprised when I watch it! Yes Lily is goody-goody, and now that you say it nothing bad ever happens to them, it's just tra-la-la everyday life. BORING!! However I love Cane :) I forgot to mention that. But I'd have to say favorite daytime character would have to be either Jill or Nikki (not Katherine, hate her, nor Victor, hate him too) What do you think about this whole Kevin and Angelina ordeal?? Angelina is obviously not pregnant! Plus I think it was stupid to bring Jeffrey back too. Get back to me on your thoughts !! Creativity97 (talk) 15:33, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I called that Diane was murdered by Nikki the day after she was murdered!! I knew it! BTW, Arre, responded to your post on my talk! Music Freak 7676 TALK! 17:55, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Hey SoapJar, I finally made a new signature thanks to the help of MF and Rain the 1. My old one was so ordinary lol. Anyway, let me know what you think of it, I value your opinions :P Also get back to me on your thoughts about the Y&R topics I posted the other day. Get back to me !! Creativity97  Talk?  18:29, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello
Hi! I just wanted to let you know that I mean no harm in my edits. I'm sorry if they seem to be incorrect or irrelevant. We're both working towards the same goal. I just wanted to let you know that I won't add anything to the Y&R pages anymore (because it ends up being taken down). However, I mostly enjoy being on Wikipedia for the grammar aspect, and if you see me editing the pages that you are working on, I can tell you now that I won't be adding/removing anything. I'll just be fixing grammatical errors. You don't need to worry about me ruining your work. I can tell you are on a mission, and I have no desire to stop you. I didn't understand what you were doing at first, but I do now, and I'm respecting your work, and please respect mine. Please don't remove my work without at least informing me because I find it disrespectful. I already apologized for damaging your edits, and I won't do it anymore. If you need to talk to me about something, I am more than happy to discuss. Good luck with your project, and if you need any help, I'm glad to assist.

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 * Its because you uploaded pictures with a proper license and they are eventually going to be deleted in the next few days. Besides the ones that are up now are fine. I don't worry about you "ruining my work", you can do anything you want, im fine with it. Thanks.  Soap  Jar   08:09, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Also sorry if you feel bad...but when i first came onto wikipedia i felt bad to but its no big deal :\ sorry if i upset you. PLEAASEEE keep contributing to the articles. Its only because you uploaded those pictures (which weren't even meant to be there in the first place) is why they were removed.  Soap  Jar   08:09, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Neighbours
Not sure if you saw my earlier message, when shall you be uploading those pictures from your friends memory card onto your Flickr? Rain  the 1  18:07, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll try it now if the memory card doesn't work ill try buying a cord.  Soap  Jar   11:48, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

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Just letting you know...
Someone is trying to report me and get me suspended from Wiki, so if it happens, after all I've contributed, I won't be returning. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 19:16, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * No!!!!!!! Tell me who it is. I want to know the circumstance under which they are requesting this. Please return, or i won't have anybody for bettering the Y&R + B&B + all US Soaps etc articles and what about your infobox? ! Please don't give up. I'd hate to see you leave. Please tell me their username so i could soften them out.  Soap  Jar   19:26, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Arre I am in no shape to fight this battle, my uncle just died hours ago. It's Wingard, go see all my contributions and see what their excuses are. Please. I can't do this anymore. I can't Arre, I can't. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 19:28, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh..im sorry to here that. I really am. My mom died in Feb. last year...my deepest sympathies with u. But Soaps are a passion of yours, yes? So please don't give up. You need to stay on wiki! Please just because wingard ...urgh..just forget them. Please keep going.  Soap  Jar   19:32, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * How can I if they're being complete tards about stuff? They aren't even signed to the Wiki project. They just want the control. I can't fight anymore. If I get blocked/banned because of them, I will be leaving permanently. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 19:34, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Now they're undoing YOUR edits. See what I mean, they don't care! Music Freak 7676 TALK! 19:47, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

True. They need to be indefinitely blocked.  Soap  Jar   20:07, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry if I'm freaking out, I'm just an emotional mess and I can't handle inconsiderate people who don't follow RULES. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 20:12, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Nooooo. Don't you worry x. I understand if you are emotional and Wingface is just making it worse. They are disruptive. They have 0 atom of concern for these articles; they just want the episode count updated.  Soap  Jar   20:17, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * If this is how I ever made you feel, I apologize. I am just too much of a wreck to deal. I'm here to get my mind off of things and concentrate on positive things and this person is not helping. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 20:21, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Thats fine. you have the right to do anything and let anything out and/or vent. You should be here to definitely get your head into working on articles on a subject which you have a passion for - but people like them who are obsessing over an episode count and disrupting edits plus being ignorant to others. They need to be blocked from wikipedia for good.  Soap  Jar   20:23, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * They're still fucking doing it. I apologize for the swearing, but when I'm like this Arre, I can't be contained. My emotions are like raging out of me and this person doesn't listen one spec. It's an annoyance. IDGAF is English is or isn't their first language, they should do the damn reading. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 20:25, 16 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree 100%. I swear a lot too, on twitter & youtube lol. They just barge into wikipedia without getting acquainted, doing some reading or ANYTHING. They are like...um.....lets see....PHYLLIS! lol jokes. I agree.  Soap  Jar   20:29, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * At least when we argued, it was fun. Aha. But this person, not fun. They don't even argue back, with fair arguments either. It's all "u 2" or something. Like c'mon, give me something to fight back to. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 20:30, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * True lol it was fun yes they are annoying! They are like a granny so slow to reply back. They are such a MAB. Anyway lets stop bothering about them. Look at this video clip i was watching after like 3 damn years and skip to 1:25 omg i miss Nick & Sharon so much do you feel the same? Y&R is shit now thanks to MAB. urgh. . Me & my other Y&R lover friend substitute "B*TCH"for MAB lol.  Soap  Jar    20:36, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I have mixed feeling concerning "Shick." When they were good, they were good. But Nick constantly tries to be the hero, and Sharon wants to be saved. She needs a backbone. They've dumbed her down. Once respectable, now inconceivable. While I loved the Cassie storyline, that ruined their relationship. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 20:38, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

True but Sharon actually never wanted to be saved. That was the one thing she hated. But in the beginning, she loved it. Thats why she chooses Adam. Because he isn't a "hero" but more of a slug but she prefers that then the self righteous (Nick). But i actually dont mind that. The reason MAB ruins Sharon's character is because Sharon Case sometimes argues her point (like Victoria Rowell did) and the writers change that into hate in the script. But on the other hand, Nick is even worse. All he wants now his sex its disgusting lol.  Soap  Jar   20:43, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Victoria Rowell is different. She DEMANDED too much, and was a complete diva. Hence why she hasn't been asked back, despite fans wanting it. Sharon is needy, let's face it. She's desperate for a husband, hence her marriage to Victor. She chose Adam because yes he didn't try and save her, but he stole her baby. That's something I'll never understand. She need to be single for a year or ten. The one normal spouse since Nick has been Jack, I always liked them together. I hate that he isn't helping or becoming involved with her problems. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 20:46, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes i miss Shack oh geee. And i love Nick being jealous. The Sharon needy-Nick jealous-Phyllis jealous thing is just my guilty pleasure. I want Nick and Phyllis to get married again and Nick to want Sharon now THATS my guilty pleasure on TV lol. Sharon doesn't love Victor she just married him for security and to be with Faith. Sharon needs to be with Nick and period. They belong together. MAB and her two hack writers turning them into a custody battle CONVINCING us that they aren't even a speck in love is totally funny. They always have chemistry and a bond. THe only thing i hate about them is that they aren't real lol. And that Nick is an ass. What other couples do you like?!  Soap  Jar   20:51, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd love to get on Y&R as a script writer, I love writing my own websoap, so that'd be fun. Nick continually claims to not help Sharon or get involved, yet he always does. I don't want "Phick" ever again. I'd love a "Phack" reunion. My fav couples were anything involving Diane, Michael/Lauren, Paul/Nina, "Villy", and my speculated couple "Chadam." and Of course, "Nictor" Music Freak 7676 TALK! 20:54, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * YES!!! IF i wrote for Y&R that would be the day! Phyllis would end up DEAD BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. ACtually no - she would stay alive but live like s**t. lol. I HATE THE CRAP out of Phick! They make me throw up! They are all about sex and its puke-able. I hate Phyllis and i don't care about her love life so i wouldn't care regarding Phack. WHat's Chadam btw? lol. I LOVE VILLY! Michael/Lauren were good before but they are boring now :( we rarely see them interact and we rarely see their house. As for "Nictor" i used to care about i hate Nikki and i dont care. Also Nictor is laughable - MAB tries to pair them up with others, but we all know they will end up together. And if they don't end up together (which MAB wouldn't dare put the pet there, Y&R's ratings would drop if one of them were killed off or leave forever) - that actually won't happen lol. Also i really want to read your websoap..... If u don't mind...  Soap  Jar    21:01, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't kill Phyllis, I like her when she isn't being manipulative. She was a strong person until she married Nick. Notice a trend? Nick marries a woman, they become weak? Maybe he should never marry anyone again. When MAB let Eric Braden go, fans started to drop like flies. It was hysterical. She knew she was screwed, so they negotiated new contracts. If it weren't for us fans, Nikki wouldn't even be back on TV right now. And sure!!! is the URL, and I have another one, which I love if you maybe co-wrote or something coming here . Would love imput!! Also, "Chadam" is Chelsea and Adam. Michael/Lauren need a damn storyline without Sheila or anything. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 21:04, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

True Phyllis was ok before. I actually kind of liked her. Nick makes women weak you are 100% right. YES! I REMEMBER THAT !PEOPLE got sooo mad that EB left! That was hilarious! and i read about what MAB did to MTS!That was terrible i hate nikki but she is a GREAT actress!!! That she didn't respond to Melody! Thats mean. Thankyou! i am going to see it now.I WOULD LOVE TO CO-WRITE SOMETHING and ill give you all my input ! im sure it will be way better then Y&R.  Soap  Jar   21:10, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

The only woman she didn't make weak was Diane. And Avery, oh gosh, why do we have her again? LOL. Phyllis was strong with Jack, had Summer and become a weakling. She needs Cricket back, Diane didn't do it for her. EB walked off because of contract negotiations, same thing as supposedly MTS back in '08. Then Melody signed a contract and EB immediately followed suit. Let's face it, Y&R without Katherine/Nikki/Victor would not be Y&R at all. They took the risk letting John Abbott go, though, I believe the actor wanted to retire. But still, it was a big move on their part. But losing anymore would kill the series. Melody Thomas Scott is a SUPERB actress, and a drunk Nikki is FUN and STRONG. A sober Nikki now, is weak and desperate. And OK. The layout for the second site should be up soon, I'm in the final stages of designing it, and TBH, it is better than Y&R aha. It's what I loved about daytime, aha. And yeah, a co-writer could be cool. Someone to collaborate with and expand characters with. It'd be cool. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 21:15, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Diane would NEVER be weak lol. I liked Avery for a while, but they paired her with Nick and made her instant trash. BTW I LOVE THE SITE! Im gonna read from ep#1 now. I still think that Summer MAY be Jack's ...that would be INTERESTING. If Y&R didn't have katherine/nikki/victor that would be terrible! Viewers wouldn't watch. I didn't mind John leaving. He was old and didn't have juicy storylines to offer (ones that were interesting) but Victor does. TRUE i love drunk Nikki lol its so funny!!!! She is an annoying hag when she is sober true. Also you know those Nick/Sharon scenes after she got joint custody a few days ago? IF Nikki and VIctoria were there holding NIck's hand (lmao) then Sharon would have OWNED Nick!. I love the header for your site and ill get stuck into reading. Me and my friend use to have a fanfic like B&B and Y&R (Two fanfics in fact on one site, and we had crossovers) but she went to college far away and we didn't have time :( but that was fun it lasted for 2 years only. I would love to give you advice on characters etc on your new project, a collaboration would be good ;). Also if you want help in getting more readers for your fanfic i know heaps :) So just ask on me and if you need help with twitter followers just for the readership to grow im her for those purposes :) x  Soap  Jar   21:25, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I was thinking of starting my own but frankly i don't think anybody would read :( plus i couldn't find any good free sites. The one you are using seems good, is that free? Anyway if i did one it would be cool if we had a crossover, dont u think? :D  Soap  Jar   21:28, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Diane was never weak; Alex Donnolly or whatever her name was sucked as Diane, Susan Walters was pretty good, but Maura West rocked from the second she stepped on the screen. She channeled Diane to me, and fit. But people say she should have been Genevieve, and sometimes, I can agree. but I agree with Maura more, she wasn't ready to tackle another role so soon after Carly.
 * I always knew Avery would be paired with Nick, I saw it on the writing on the wall. John Abbott was old, like Katherine old, and the scenes of him dying were very powerful. As if Summer is Jack's, I'd love that. Jack deserves another child since Kyle is being exiled into NYC boarding school.
 * I got to ask you, who do you like more as Victoria, Heather Tom or Amelia Heinle? I loved Heather, but Amelia fits more into the vibe of the Newmans. But she needs to let someone do her hair.
 * And d'aw, that sucks about you and your friend's fanfic! That's so sad. I do these all on my own, there's a whole community of us. And while we're a dying bred, I can't give up. I've invested too much. Advice would be much appreciated, even collaborations. I know bringing on someone else for the second series is going to be good, to collaborate on ideas and character developments, that'd be cool. And my sites are free, yes. But my host is a bit of a rude prick, so I have to be careful with my sites, aha. And I'd love it if you got hooked on one or both series; that'd be excellent!! Music Freak 7676 TALK! 21:36, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Maura west was hands down the best as Diane! She was great. True about her not being ready - but i was soooo used to see her as the CARLY in my life, and to see her make Diane believable as her own is GREAT! Shes amazing. Avery and Nick had NO chemistry. He just loves blondes lol. Jack is the best dad ever to Kyle! He really needs another child.

About Victoria: I prefer Heather Tom. She was just fantastic. Amelia Heinle can be a little weak but she has grown on me i love her. I agree! Im like "Honey please remove that ferret from your head" lol. And i hate Heather Tom as Katy - she will always be "Victoria"! to me!!!. Yes im reading your fanfic right now i have to say its pretty good. If i made one would u read it? :\ lol. I actually have a personal fan fic but its on my computer; spread across Word, Powerpoint and Excel (lame, i know? lol) and i've been doing it since 2008. I love the characters its like they are real to me.  Soap  Jar   21:55, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, Maura was the best Diane, she's a strong actress. A very strong, and talented actress. We're trying to get her on DAYS since she watches it. Her transition from Carly to Diane was incredible, and the hair cut definitely helped. Carly will always be her iconic couple. There's no doubting that.
 * I liked Heather Tom as Victoria only because she could hold her own again Eric Braden. She is a stronger actress than Amelia, but Amelia has earned her time as Victoria. She's brought a somewhat newer version to the scene. AH does her own her, she doesn't let hair do it. That's a big mistake. Though, there were rumours that Gina Tognoni was coming on as Victoria when she left GL and OLTL. And Heather Tom is great as Katie, but the character is useless. And thanks, I'm passionate about it. I've gotten better at writing. And I would, when I got the time. My characters are real to me, as well. You get emotionally invested a lot of times. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 22:06, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Did I tell you, I'm casting Sharon Case in my upcoming webseries. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 23:24, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * OMG!!! REALLY?!! THATS SO COOL :) i can't wait. Would i be able to have some input on the character's personality name etc?? Considering i am SC's #1 fan haha. But i hope you treat her better then MAB does lmao. :)  Soap  Jar   23:26, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Aha, yes you can certainly contribute to her name and character. I was thinking Carolyn or Priscilla. I already have the last name, that's taken care of. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 23:30, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Um....im not tryna be mean but i really don't like those names lol :D sorry. ACtually..Carolyn is ok :D What about these names i like them: Jennifer, Abigail, Adelaide, Christina, Sasha, Kourtney, Samantha, Madison, Savannah, Destiny, Tiffany, Megan. Those are some of my fav names :) What do u think? Oh and whats her last name? I just want to know so it matches her first lol. And does the character have an extensive background prior to the series?  Soap  Jar   23:37, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I think Carolyn fits Sharon Case. You got to kind of fit a name to a face. Out of those names, I think Tiffany would fit. And her maiden name is going to be Williams. I'm trying to add a third family into the series. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 23:42, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Im not sure about Carolyn tho... i think a name more feminine like Tiffany, Samantha, Christina or something like that. Yep! I think you should go with Tiffany. Williams? Sounds kind of basic..but still ok :)  Soap  Jar   23:45, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm not looking for a horrific name like Longbottom or Doubtfire. Nor do I want to copy actual soap operas if I could at all help it, you know? Because if that were so, I'd go with Abbott or Buchanan, aha. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 23:53, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Yeah haha i get it. Well, in my old fanfic i used these surnames (dont laugh lol) for central families: Goodmans (sort of like Newman but replacing New with Good), McCallisters (not too basic, but from the Home Alone films), Destinys, Boltons (sounds funny dont laugh but i actually got this from the High School musical film in 2006 lol), and a greek family, the Adelphas. And another family by the name of Olsen lol (Mary Kate and Ashley). So not too basic but kind of ordinary :)   Soap  Jar    00:02, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I actually LOVE McCallisters, I love that name, aha. Right now I have Carraways/Chandlers. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 00:06, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah me too :) and the family i based the McCallister name around are really wealthy (i think it sounds like a rich sort of name lol). Carraways, i like that name :). Is Sharon's character married or anything?  Soap  Jar   00:11, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The upcoming series Forbidden Desires is basically two rich families in a Romeo & Juliet type of love story, in battling fashion houses. And then I want to add a third family as well, which will feature Sharon's character. She's married, yes. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 00:14, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Can I use the McCallister name? I'm re-imaging everything about the series and instead of Chandler and I want to use McCallister. And wanted to know if such would be okay with you? Music Freak 7676 TALK! 19:20, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Hm... I think i should be honest but if i was to make a fanfic i would use that surname considering i have been writing rough copies for one every since you gave me the idea last week. But its up to you, I'm not sure i would be completely happy.  Soap  Jar   22:43, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, different series use the name as well. I just figured it would sound better than "Chandlers" IMHO. And didn't want you reading and going "He stole this from me." Music Freak 7676 TALK! 22:50, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * True.. i know this sounds weird. But i would let you use the name if I did make a fanfic which I'm sort of considering, could we make both McCallisters one family? Not crossovers (well we could if you wanted) but just the same McCallister family but in different series? And make mention of it? Like the "barber" family in B&B and Y&R both.  Soap  Jar   23:08, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know. I would have to consider it, only because crossovers from different series that aren't run by the writer of one is quite hard to accomplish. There would have to be deep connective writing. I may just decide another name, because I don't want to upset you by using McCallisters, you know? Music Freak 7676 TALK! 23:11, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, not really. You just give the character over. What i mean by the same family is acknowledging to other part. Say where is your Soap set? Say you are done with a member of the family, they can guest star or go over to another Soap. Its really easy. Cause there are always characters that you feel like "What are they doing here?" in real soaps lol. Just an idea. Okay, its up to you. Hope i am not being difficult, its just i've been writing my own personal fanfic on my computer for the past 4 years (since 08) and I've used that name, McCallister. Also to do the following i don't feel deep connective writing is needed as i would read your soap or you would read mine (hopefully) and know the character's personality and traits etc.  Soap  Jar   01:02, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes Arre, but it isn't as simple as that. Not all characters drop off and leave a series to go to another. Plus, I already have crossovers from my other series planned for the upcoming one. I was just going to use the name with no connection. And deep connective writing is needed to keep the integrity of a character and their history. You know what I mean, you're not being difficult, I am, aha. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 02:07, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Well ok. What i mean't was, a character which you wouldn't need and seems very dull could work wonders for someone else. Anyway, Im looking forward to your new soap. When is it up? Also i wasn't really concentrating on the crossover; but more the mentioning of the same family. Well otherwise, to be completely honest, i hope you aren't mad but i would rather you use another name. :\  Soap  Jar   02:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Aha, it's fine. I'll research some last names later. I'm not going to get upset over a name, aha. I don't mind, I asked you for that specific reason, I wanted to make sure it was okay. But now that it isn't, I move on and make up a new one, aha. And I should be up sometime next month or March; LC returns next week! Music Freak 7676 TALK! 02:31, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok cool. Thankyou, im glad you asked its very kind of you. Oh i see. SO you will be doing LC & FD at the same time?? Anyway ill definitely catch up with Liberty City sounds good. Glad you used Victoria Rowell. Anyway, if i made one would u read it ? :(  Soap  Jar   03:04, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome for asking, I didn't wanna use it and then you see it and freak out, you know? That would be terribly unkind of me to do! LC and FD will be going at the same time, yes. Lots of projects on my plate, aha. And yes, I did use Ms. Rowell for a short while. And if I had the time, I'd read it. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 03:13, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Might be getting blocked because of Soapfan2013. So if I am, I'll miss you guys because I won't return following the lift. ALSO DO NOT SAY A THING TO THEM IF I'M NOT BLOCKED! I DON'T NEED TO CREATE A WAR!!! Music Freak 7676 TALK! 22:13, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Response
All I can do since I live in Sweden is change the episode counts. Please let me do it when I'm at home. I only go away to a computerless place twice a year. This is one of my fun things. Wingard (talk) 20:03, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * aw. Thats unfortunate if its one of your "Fun things". But here its not just hobby - we take it seriously. Sorry but you will be blocked. We don't care if it airs in Sweden or CA or wherever because if it airs in the US (Which it has) it must be updated asap and if you undo it, that is vandalism. You are reported.  Soap  Jar   20:07, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, letting you do it constitutes as WP:OWN which is NOT allowed. Brush up on your reading before you try and run the damn place. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 20:12, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Wingard you should have more respect. If somebody fights you on a subject, stop undoing their edits and have some consideration on the topic. You are DEFINITELY going to be blocked and reported so deal with it and leave MF alone and leave this pages alone. You aren't helping.  Soap  Jar   20:17, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello
Hey SoapJar, jeez what is this ordeal with Wingard? Who are they anyways, they don't even have a user page. I feel for MF ... before I started using this account I just edited without one and I was constantly threatened to be reported and everything. Back then I didn't even know how to fight back so I just created an account and here I am :) It seems that this whole Wingard thing has been put under some sort of control, I read he was officially blocked for one week, and he obviously can't be trusted!! And MF, don't worry. Wingard looks like a nobody and has no control. Please stay on Wiki!! And SoapJar, I would still love to hear your opinions on the Y&R topics I posted a few days back. I don't mean to rush you, let me know when you can :) Get back to me !! Creativity97  Talk?  22:16, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I appreciate it C97, I'm just not in a place to be collectively together to be able to deal with their bull. They were undoing my edits, and making them his own to be in WP:OWN control, and anything said otherwise was not allowed. Their promise to not edit war was a lie, and proof they'll say anything to contest it. I'm not leaving, but if I got blocked because of him, I would have. I've contributed a lot compared to them, all they do is edit war. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 22:19, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

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Hello! I'm brand new to Wikipedia and was wondering if you could just give me some basics to editing. I love to edits soaps, but worry if my work isn't good enough or will get removed :( If you could get back to me ASAP that would be great :) Alfredo114 (talk) 23:24, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Aw. Thanks thats nice, don't worry your work won't be removed if it is constructive. To be honest, I'm not the greatest either. I edited for awhile but not major. I joined up again last month :). Basics....well it depends. What kind of editing would you like to do on Soap pages? Just normal editing like updating storylines and things like that, or major changes? Editing Soap pages isn't very complex if you are just hoping to keep them up-to-date. For a person like me personally –– i feel i'm here to change the pages and make them better. Are you trying to do the same? Because that would be great :) And what type of pages would you like to work on? Just B&B and DOOL? Well thats cool. Right now, I'm concentrating on The Young and the Restless soap pages. Also - if you don't want your work to be removed - make sure it is constructive and never get into editing wars. I'm sure your work will be good enough. I'm not the best at grammar but i try my hardest. Get back to me if there is anything else you want to ask :)  Soap  Jar   06:01, 20 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I watched the The Young and the Restless for twenty years until B&B came on, and then I stopped watching Y&R because B&B is soooo much better :) I've been watching DOOL for about twelve years now. It's not the best but I still love to watch it. Anyhow, yes I only edit things related to B&B and DOOL. I've contributed to DOOL but it was all removed :( So I've been working on B&B and it seems to be going well, but there has been some conflict with a couple of my edits so I just backed off. Like you said I won't be involved in edit wars. I'm very sensitive about my work and if it is removed for no reason it deeply hurts me, thus I just leave some things alone to avoid getting my feelings hurt. Thank you so much for your help and I would love to be your friend! I have none on Wiki. I tried with some people but they told me to leave them alone. I'm a likeable person and I don't deserve that behavior, so I hope you will be some sort of a friend to me. I hope things work out between us. I don't want to risk anything :) Alfredo114 (talk) 23:09, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh thats wonderful. I hope you don't mind me asking, but if you watched Y&R for twenty years until B&B came on how old are you? Just curious. My name is Arekea, you can call me Arre and I'm 23 years-of-age. Yes, DOOL can be not-so-good but i still catch up with it. Aw..what did you contribute that was deleted? If there are any problems like that again tell me i want to see – because some people remove things for no reason because it suits them better. I would like to see. In the beginning i had nobody, so i know how it feels. True, i don't have many friends or Wikipedia companions either, only a few. I was really sensitive at first too, but i understand it now. Don't back off - if it is your good faith then continue to, you will learn. Oh, thats a bugger that you are only contributing to DOOL + B&B. I would really love some help with the Y&R articles im creating. Right now, I'm creating pages for every year of Y&R (Just characters) and i've completed pages for 2011, 10, 09, 08, 07, 06 and im just working on this project to give Y&R character pages for every year. It's exciting but i feel very lonely, nobody is helping only a couple of people are. True, you seem very likable. Sure of course, Im here for support for anybody that asks it.  Soap  Jar   23:47, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello again. Is Creativity97 one of your friends? I met them last night. They seem very nice :) To answer your question I'm not comfortable disclosing my age at this time, but I started loving soaps at age 14. Y&R was my favorite until B&B came on. I started watching B&B in 1993. Its the best!! I tried to get back on Y&R in 2010 but it was sooo boring. B&B is the best soap in history hands down. Oh I also watched All My Children for 17 years, until it got so stupid I stopped in 2005. I watched the last few weeks last September and it was still so stupid six years later. I also watched General Hospital for about 9 years from 1991 to 2000, when I stopped as there simply was no time! Some of my real-life friends call me Soap General :) Anyway, I wrote some things on a character page for DOOL and someone contacted me saying they reverted it as it was irrevalent. I reread what I wrote and it did seem irrevalent afterall, so I backed out. But other than that, I love Wiki! And I did take some tutorials to help me even though you were sooo helpful. BTW did you watch One Life to Live? It was soooo bad from beginning to end. Everything was horrible and I was soooo happy when it was cancelled! It so should have been. Anyway if you ever need help with anything B&B I will help you or vice versa. Let me know and I love to chat so contact me anytime. Bye! Alfredo114 (talk) 16:19, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi. Yes, Creativity is my friend and they have been a good help to me here. Oh..thats fine i don't mind, its just if we were to be friends i would have liked to know some more about you. Well about me; I am very young but a soap addict. Ill be 24 this year. I started watching DOOL first with my mum when i was like 10 years old or so. It was what i didn't do when i didn't go to school and i was in a car accident when i was 11, so i did't go to school for 2 months and watched DOOL nonstop haha. And i watched Y&R a little bit around 1999 or so. In 2001 i started to watch Y&R full time and stopped watching DOOL. I began watching Y&R again in 2000 and i haven't stopped. I will call you Soap General then :) I never focused on GH or OLTL much. I did watch AMC and GH. Right now on a wikipedia aspect, im focusing fully on Y&R in past and current tense. And next i want to work on DOOL and B&B and i will definitely need your help :). I don't agree about B&B still being the best in history. It used to be great, i loved it back then but right now I'm not enjoying it. They are focusing so much on Hope, Liam, Steffy it makes me sick!  Soap  Jar    22:43, 21 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi! I have made good friends with Musicfreak7676. They are sooo nice to me and I really appreciate it. I realize I can be a pain in the neck sometimes but I try to be nice to everyone :) I think B&B is the best soap in history, that's my opinion. I understand it's also one of the most watched soaps in the world too. Anyway, I'm very busy most of the time so I may not have a lot of time to dedicate to working on B&B and DOOL pages, but we'll see. Because maybe by that point I will be able to, I'm hopeful but I have very bad luck, lol. My plan is to start watching GH again this year but I'm so busy I have close to no free time, thank goodness B&B is only a half-hour or else I wouldn't have time for it! Eeek! That wouldn't be good :) Could you tell me what happened to Don Diamont's character on Y&R? I don't even remember his name and I just really want to know what happened to him as I hated him when I watched it and he wasn't on when I watched briefly in 2010. But I love Don's character on B&B, Bill!! He has become my favorite daytime character hands down, replacing Stephanie Forrester, my former favorite and now my second favorite. Complicated, I know! Sometimes I sit up awake at night thinking about my fave characters! haha. But I'm so happy that AMC and OLTL are done and over with! Jeez they were bad no wonder they got cancelled! lol. I consider GH to be a rare ABC soap that is actually good; Susan Lucci was awful on AMC and she makes me so angry to look at. I loved Leslie Charleston when I watched GH. Is she still on it? Did she die? Did she leave? I hope not because I wanted to like marry her when I watched her haha. I just loved her soooo much. Anyway, let me stop myself from babbling on and get back to me. Talk soon!! Alfredo114 (talk) 23:09, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, MF (Musicfreak7676) is too nice; They understand my views on things. You're certainly not a pain and don't think that. Yes true –– B&B is the most watched Soap Opera in the world.D Don Diamont's character, Brad Carlton drowned in a lake of icy cold water, and his daughter Colleen died later (a few months later) in the same way. I actually love Brad. Watched him for years and became a favorite of mine, and i always wanted him with Sharon but they never got that chance. I love $ Bill too!. I wasn't glad All My Children ended (although i didn't care about OLTL) because i felt it had more to give; basically i was heartbroken. I actually completely disagree about Susan Lucci. She was a daytime legend and she was the main part why it was hard for me to say goodbye to AMC, Erica is an icon in the soap world, in the same sense that Victor Newman, Katherine Chancellor, Stefano DiMera, Marlena Evans, Stephanie Forrester are –– infact she might even be a bit bigger, considering she has been on longer then all of them. TV Guide named her "unequivocally the most famous soap opera character in the history of daytime TV" so they wouldn't say that for nothing. Im not sure about Leslie. I also LOVED As The World Turns, especially Carly and people like her. Get back to me soon :) I want to know more of your opinions!  Soap  Jar    01:02, 22 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello again!! Sorry for the delay. Yeah all of those things I told you about happened with my old account in 2007 (probably should've mentioned that : I was heartbroken, stupid I know but I'm very sensitive. Yes I left Wikipedia in 2007 and I don't even remember my old username or anything. I have a very bad memory :P
 * About AMC, Susan Lucci may be a daytime legend but I just hate her, that's my opinion. I vaguely remember Victor Newman from the 80s, I don't think I liked him very much, as I said bad memory. OMG!! I loved As The World Turns too!! I was freaking out when it got cancelled, I literally cried!! lol. My favorite was Maura West as Carly Tenney who I understand was on Y&R for a while, do you know as who?? About Brad Carlton I hated him back in the 80s. But OMG I'm soooo happy he's dead. Good riddance. I don't really remember his daughter that much though. Who's Sharon?? Don't really need a full history just wondering. Did you watch Guiding Light?? OMG other than B&B that was literally the best soap ever!! I loved it and I recorded the finale and I think I still have it on video. I've watched it like ten times and I cry every time cuz it's over :( My fave characters there were Phillip Spaulding, Jeffrey O'Neill, Bill Lewis, and Michelle Bauer Santos (LOVED her!). I miss them all like crazy. I watched every day from 1977 to 2009 no joke. My day consisted of watching B&B, ATWT, and GL. I would tape them all with my VCR! lol. I was sooo angry when GL was cancelled, and then when ATWT was cancelled I thought, what's happened to the world!! But obviously soaps aren't that popular anymore; four were cancelled in the span of two years (GL, ATWT, AMC, OLTL). Anyway, B&B and GL are the best soaps ever hands down. GL's gone so I've gotta hold on to B&B! Anyway, get back to me on your opinions!! Alfredo114 (talk) 21:51, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes. CBS produces the best soaps. B&B and Y&R, will be here for a long time to come. Y&R is #1 in the United States for 23+ years, the country where it counts, and B&B is #1 worldwide soap, one of the most watched television shows of all time. And As the World Turns and Guiding Light were good too. I hate how they replaced As the World Turns with some random talk show called The Talk. However, i do enjoy the talk. I was upset when GL finished. I'm like - its been there since my great grandma was around; talking it away was removing a part of history in my opinion. Y&R is good however the head writer is crap. B&B is good, but they focus too much on a certain storyline, currently Liam, Steffy and Hope. I am rooting for Steffy. The storylines are boring, and always make the Logans come out on top. They should rename it The Logan Show. Carly Tenney was a great character and Maura West was a fantastic actress. She portrayed Diane Jenkins on Y&R. Anyway back to GL, it had a broadcast history combined with Radio + TV of 72 years. It would have 75 years and maybe 80 years if it were still here. I miss it tho. Im scared for the future of General Hospital. Also, Despite Days never having a chance of being #1 it will stick around forever. I can't imagine my life with DAYS. Sharon is my fav character on Y&R to answer your question. To be honest, I haven't been paying alot of attention to B&B lately. Its all about Hope and until she gives up her virginity. Its sucks and its boring to watch. Hope has no substance as a character. What are your fav B&B Characters? Also i didn't mind Brad dying because i heard that he would stay with CBS. I love Don Diamont.  Soap  Jar    06:21, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * OMG I JUST SAW A PROMO FOR B&B AND IT LOOKS LIKE Liam/Steffy + Bill/Katie are OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry got excited, excellent promo, LOL. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 17:48, 23 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Hey I posted my fave B&B characters on MF's talk page, sorry just don't feel like copying them down again lol. Thank you MF my god I always hated Bill and Katie together. I'm starting to hate Heather Tom but I still love Katie :P I love Don Diamont too just hated him on Y&R. Highly doubt he got better from when I watched in the 80s. Maura was Diane Jenkins? Really? I remember her from Y&R back in the early 80s. She was some slut who was portrayed by some Donnelley girl. I totally can't picture Maura as Diane. Eeew! Anyway if you're fearing the future for GH then I won't start watching again. I wanted to get back into it this year but if it's still crummy storylines then screw it lol. BTW is Leslie Charleston still on GH?? Didn't she portray like someone named Monica or something?? Yeah I hate The Talk. It was such a poor replacement for ATWT, if they wanted to cancel it then the actors can just come to my house and perform the soap for me on the spot!!! lol. I hate Sharon Osbourne and that random girl from Roseanne. Anyway, get back to me!! I love chatting with you it brightens up my day :) Alfredo114 (talk) 21:55, 23 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Aha yes MF i saw the promo. I don't care about B&B. I wanted Steffy/Liam to be together. Hope and Liam are so boring, this is just an example of the show turning into "The Logan Show". I love Heather Tom as VICTORIA :p she will never be "Katie" for me lol, and the character of Katie extremely annoys me. The only GOOD Logan is Donna, i love her. Also i never killed Bill and Katie, for me they had 0 chemistry. The Talk is a sadder competition for the View ahah. AHAHA Yes the ending of ATWT was heartbreaking. I think CBS thought they had too many Soaps, so first took away As the World Turns and Guiding light, as Y&R and B&B are stronger. Aw thats so sweet, it brightens up your day :) I love talking to other soapies too! Also about Maura as Diane, she was the best actress as Diane she was AMAZING. :) x  Soap  Jar   09:39, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Sharon
Hey thurrr. I noticed that Sharon's storyline section is kinda long, It is great apart from that. I fancy a ref tidy, shall I have a go on Sharon for ya? Rain  the 1  03:10, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure. I was just trying to make it a little shorter. But i think it's okay considering she has been there for 18 years and its well balanced. Yes sure! I have trouble with referencing sometimes i put the wrong things in wrong places. Im still learning as u know. By ref tidy do you mean just cleaning up the refs?  Soap  Jar   03:25, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep, that is what I meant. Just things like work and publishers. :) Rain  the 1  03:46, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Im still trying to get use to that. I get confused between work & publisher.  Soap  Jar

Hello again
Hey SoapJar, I can call you Arre right?? I met with Alfredo114 yesterday. They are so nice! I wish I could help them but they only work on B&B and DOOL. I watch neither! :( Anyway, where are you in the Y&R characters pages?? Last I checked you were working on 2007. I would still love to help in anyway I can. Post the sandbox links and I'll help with storylines or infoboxes or something. I love helping and I hope I am being helpful :) Are you still thinking of making decade pages? Like 1990-99, 1980-89, and 1973-79? Cuz that sounds good to me. It may take awhile but like Rain the 1 said it will be a huge accomplishment when we're done :) So let me know your plans. And Alfredo told me to call them Soap General, and that they were female. Its catchy. From the history she gave me it suits her well! And I like being called just Creativity in case you were wondering. Get back to me !! Creativity97   Talk?  16:35, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey! :) Is there anything i can call you btw? Yes they are nice. Right now im the same, I'm focusing on The Young and the Restless but sort of leaning towards working on DOOL articles next. About the decade pages here are my thoughts –– i am trying to make single character pages for 2005, 04, 03, 02, 01, as i've already completed anything above those years. If i find enough information to make those pages, then i will work on 1999, 98, 97, etc. I really want there to be a full guide, and i don't want to see it incomplete. I am ordering the Y&R Book soon so i will definitely have some great references and info on characters. Yes it will be a massive accomplishment when we are finished. Also, if you want to help me with my sandboxes - i don't have any sandboxes right now that im working on, i just completed the 2006 characters page but Im going to work on the 2005 page, so i'll tell you when that's up. Oh right, i just got to the end of your comment and realized i should stick to calling you creativity lol. Oh and yes please call me Arre.  Soap  Jar   22:43, 21 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay Arre, all sounds good! Keep me posted. Creativity97   Talk?  23:20, 21 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Hey there, I don't really have any ideas on your soap opera online thing, in fact I'm not really sure I understand what you're asking of me :( What are you making?? I have no idea. Sorry I wasn't of any help, maybe I could be but you'd have to explain to me exactly what you're doing here. Let me know :) Creativity97   Talk?  04:27, 22 January 2012 (UTC)


 * And also, about everything you posted earlier: No Genevieve doesn't die, obviously! I bet the tragic end is Jack gets cold feet or something and backs out, or an incident happens at the wedding causing chaos (like maybe Patty is revealed to the world!!) Anyway, keep me posted. PS - what's Chadam?? I know Shadam is Sharon/Adam, but who's part of Chadam?? Creativity97   Talk?  04:33, 22 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Hey just taking a break?? Will you be back soon?? I hope so. You've done so much for Y&R I'd hate to see you say goodbye for good. Please let me know :) Creativity97   Talk?  04:50, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

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HEADS UP!
Wingard's block is removed in a few hours, so be on the look-out! I have a feeling they aren't finished with their bout of WP:OWN. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 17:45, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * YEAH. I'm done with this site. They aren't going to be blocked since I edit warred with them. You have my Twitter. Bye Arre! Music Freak 7676 TALK! 22:15, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok then..I'm not going to beg for you to stay even though i would like that. Yes, i'll contact you on twitter from now on. Miss you !x  Soap  Jar   09:16, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * If this bull happens again I will leave without notice to you or anyone. I'm tired of dealing with this bull because member(s) cannot handle certain responsibilities. I appreciate you sticking up for me Arre, I do, but I don't want you getting blocked from this site over anyone. That's not my intention. xx Music Freak 7676 TALK! 22:28, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ( Ok...well at least i have your twitter. I will stick up for you; because its obvious wingard was in the wrong. Yes some people don't bother talking things out and "block" people straight away. Blocking is immature unless it is Wingard's situation which they need to be blocked.  Soap  Jar   01:55, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Just always keep on your Twitter just in case. Gotta be on that thing like butter on bread! Music Freak 7676 TALK! 02:06, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello!
Hi! I really appreciate you noticing my work. I also really like what you've done with the more specific pages by year for Y&R minor characters. As far as the referencing, I'm very new to that sort of thing, and I really didn't know how to go about it. Thank you for showing me a better way to do it. I was just trying to get some sources or references on the pages to make them a little more credible. Thanks again! Mfedor713 (talk) 14:50, 24 January 2012 (UTC)mfedor713
 * Your welcome. Thankyou so much for your compliment to me too. That's fine i wasn't very good at referencing at the start either. But thankyou for bringing neglected pages which don't attract many attention to your attention because the information you added was very good and it was sourced to which is great!  Soap  Jar   01:59, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Also i thank you tremendously !!!! For adding the actor/actresses names in brackets like this ---> Sharon Newman (Sharon Case) <--- for many articles!!! Its such a big help and i couldn't get around to doing it because i was so busy! THANKS!  Soap  Jar   02:19, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Hey
Hi Arre!! I'm sooo sad that MF might be leaving. I don't think it has to come to that. Anyway, I'm done with DOOL. It's been really bad for the past month now (I didn't say anything before lol) and I don't have as much time to commit to it anymore :( I'm still watching B&B every day though. I will NEVER give up B&B. Today was my last time watching DOOL. I may go back to it in awhile, but for now I'm done with it. Now B&B is the only soap I watch. Oh well, that's all I have time for lol and its only a half-hour! I wish GL would come back <3 I miss it. I watched my tape of the finale again today :) First time since like June!! I'm sooo weird lol. I agree that some days B&B should be called "The Logan Show." They focus waaaay too much on him sometimes. Anyway, I sent my best wishes to MF and really hope they stay! Get back to me!!! Alfredo114 (talk) 22:56, 24 January 2012 (UTC)


 * PS -- Did you watch Another World?? I hated it!! It was sooo bad like OLTL. What about Passions? I thought they would replace AW with something good and Passions was just as bad if not worse!! Let me know :) Alfredo114 (talk) 22:58, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes im upset too that MF could be leaving. Your done with DOOL? Wow..i thought you had been watching for years? True it isn't as "intriguing" as before – before people used to get shot and there were mysteries EVERY episode but now it sucks. Whats your fav DOOL storyline? Mine is the Gina storyline :) how she was locked in a tower and her daughter came. That was golden storyline. Wow only B&B? :) Yes i miss GL too! B&B is good as it is half an hour with shorter breaks. True!!! :p i hatteee the Logan show baha. No, i never watched Another World but i did watch Passions until it got boring.  Soap  Jar   02:07, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * DAYS is just slow right now. Today was the first day since the relaunch that it was truly a bore-fest. I think the writers over-all have been doing an incredible job re-constructing the series. And right now I think they're just trying to make way for the returning characters such as Billie, Lucas and Celeste. I miss GL too, but it got so bad once they changed the way they directed their series. I sincerely miss ATWT it was the greatest soap opera hands down! And DAYS is the only soap NBC truly could construct. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 03:09, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * DAYS will never be the same for me. I get nostalgic watching the old episodes, very emotional because its nothing like that. Its fine now, but true can be boring however im sticking with it - i can't dump that. It used to be so daring but now i don't see any of that :> Its sad for me. Yes!!! I truly miss GL & ATWT sooo bad. They were sister soaps too :) But im not sure about ATWT being the greatest soap, B&B or Y&R probably have that title. OMG MF i didn't know that that comment was from you lol i just reply without checking it thought it was Soap General yay! x  Soap  Jar   03:13, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I grew up on CBS soaps, and ATWT was always my favourite and always will be. And yes, that comment was from me, aha. I miss World Turns so much. I need Carly/Lily/Holden/Jack back. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 18:31, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Why did you change Ruby's first appearance date? Rain  the 1  05:01, 26 January 2012 (UTC) Oh I see. Charlie's first app was the sixth, someone must have sneaked the 6 in sometime. lol Always remember Ruby popping up a little later than Charlie. Could you change them both to the 20 please. Thanks. Rain  the 1  05:11, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh i see...well sorry about that :\\ I just assumed she might have arrived at the same time as Charlie i was never watching then. Sorry & ofcourse  Soap  Jar   05:15, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

JLO
If you check what I actually said in the edit summary, it was that she has always been an actress first. Hell, her latest album she promoted until it came out, and then she filmed two movies, American Idol and Q'Viva back to back. Her music career isn't her big money maker. Just because someone's a singer doesn't mean that they need to have the singer infobox. — Status  &#x7B;talk contribs 11:59, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes..no need to tell me i am a big fan of hers and i know - i saw what u said in the edit summary. Its been like that longer (the info-box). Like i said in the edit summary it doesn't matter. Also, she hasn't had 40 films, and she has had 8 major albums (including the remixes) to be precise; 27 films, 3 upcoming films. Films she produced doesn't count. I don't think which part of her career (singing or acting) makes the bigger money is relevant; As the production of an album is completely different to film, so you can't compare 7 albums to "40" films. But if you want it your way, its fine.  Soap  Jar   03:12, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
 * That is true, but it's quite evident that music is much more of a side project to her. So, that should really come into play here. And I don't really want to dig up sources stating which she is more successful in, etc. As an actress, designer, producer, television personality and businesswoman, I'd say that infobox person suits the article best. — Status  &#x7B;talk contribs 04:09, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I didn't say that... I wish there was a triplet threat box lol. Also, Jen doesn't treat music as a side project. She looks at Dancing, Singing + Acting as 1 thing so she treats it all as her passion.  Soap  Jar   04:25, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
 * LOL. I really don't buy that for a single second. There's a reason she's never toured, she's been doing movies. The promotion for Love? after the release was horrible. Again, she went and filmed two movies. I'll believe this upcoming tour when I see it. xD I swear she's said she was gonna tour and didn't like 5 times in her career. — Status  &#x7B;talk contribs 15:55, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes. That's exactly why she hasn't done a word tour, however she has done 2 tours (non worldwide). She's been doing money because she has a balance between movies and music. Also, she is doing a world tour soon she confirmed it was in the works (she hasn't confirmed it before) watch the press vid for iQ'Viva!. She never said she will do a tour, but she has said she is considering it but can't because of her movie career. Also, statistics are that 4 films = 1 album (in production and stuff like that). Making an album is a longer process and she has done that 8 times, and now 9 times. Also Love?'s sales were faulty and bad in the US, but it fared well worldwide. The tour helped it, it reached the top 10 in 24 countries..thats massively good. It reached the top in many countries (non literally #1 but the top, as in top 5 or 10). Also personally as a fan i know music isn't a side project. She began dancing & singing; she is getting a star on the walk of hollywood or whatever for the "recording category" because recently in the 2000s she is labelled as more of a music artist and pop star. Sorry for the long comment, just my response lol.  Soap  Jar   02:53, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Hey there
Hi! It's all great. I'm always open and fine to storyline alterations (unless of course its vandalism or what have you). I always thought Dru's page was in bad shape; just never got around to fully fix it up, you know ;) Sharon's page is good too, but is there a more updated picture we could put? That picture is from like last April and she doesn't really look like that anymore, she has the same hair color and everything but still. Could you look into that for me? And Dru's picture is good too. Let me know, and what do you think is gonna happen with Patty on Y&R?? She's posing as Emily again! How is that going to work out, Genevieve is obviously gonna find out that Patty isn't "Myrna Murdock." And I haven't fully watched the Jan 27 episode yet so please no spoilers!! Let me know :) Creativity97   Talk?  00:53, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks..but what did you think of the text & everything i added to Dru's page? :) Im not sure about Sharon's picture like you; but if i tried to change it, someone could possibly change it back. I want to use screen captures, what do you think of using a recent screen capture of SHaron from recently? I don't know...i haven't watch the 27th ep yet. Idk if Genevieve will get shot, because it says that the wedding ends in tragedy...or maybe somebody will get shot. Or maybe Jack just walks out. Patty is mental but somewhat smart as she knows everything about Emily, she can use that to her advantage. She can just tell Gen that Myrna is PAtty but she is emily? you get what i mean?  Soap  Jar   01:10, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah you're right Patty has knowledge on Emily so she may be able to pull it off. And maybe you're right about Sharon's picture ... a lot of people will put back the old one so maybe we should leave it as is for now. And I was thinking, what would you say about changing the names of the articles of Abby and Adam? Because right now they are Abby Carlton and Adam Wilson. They both go by Newman now; I know it's by their birth name but all the links on other pages link to Abby Newman and Adam Newman, not Abby Carlton or Adam Wilson, you know what I mean?? I just think it would be better that way. Let me know and get back to me !! Creativity97   Talk?  03:53, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh and I read Dru's storylines and they're well done, good work :) Creativity97   Talk?  03:54, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Im saving the 27th episode to watch later. As im currently living in Australia sometimes i get mixed up with dates and etc. My friend e-mails the episodes to in HD and i watch them on my tv; if i can't i just watch it on YouTube (but i am american tho). Anyway lol enough about me... We will just leave Sharon's picture as it is; unless you can find another promotional image of Sharon from recent. I think Abby Carlton should remain the same, as she has been known by that name longer. And i definitely agree, Adam needs to be moved to Newman. His name has been that since 2009 (he was only referenced to as Wilson from 2008 - 2009). THanks about Dru's thing :)  Soap  Jar   04:50, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello again! As you can see if you go to my user page I have finally created a userbox. However, I'm having a little bit of trouble, and maybe you can answer my one question for me: Is there a way to create a new column of your own? For example, I want to put one that says "This user loves Without a Trace". How do I do that? I figured out all the others by looking at other userboxes. I also want to put like "This user watches The Big Bang Theory" and "This user watches Modern Family." Do you have any tips on how to do that? Could you get back to me ASAP and let me know? That would be great :) Creativity97   Talk?  15:13, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh thats good. :) Well...did you search for the userboxes that you have currently? Or get them from somebody else? Well to get more, all you have to do is search it up on wiki. And if its not there, create one. Im not actually sure how to create one, but i'm sure its easy. :) Also, i've been editing the Jennifer Lopez page (its a stretch from soap pages), it would mean the world if you could check it out and tell me how you think its going. Also, about the userboxes – go here to create one  :) xx  Soap  Jar    15:20, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks a million! :) And I will check out J.Lo's page as soon as I get a chance :) Creativity97   Talk?  15:42, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Hey Arre no I didn't see the 30th episode yet (as it is the 28th today). I don't wanna watch it on YouTube; I wanna be surprised on the 30th! OMG what does Patty do?!? DON'T TELL ME!!! Chat soon. Creativity97   Talk?  16:32, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * CRAP!!! :D i wish i could tell you ahahahaha :) lol ill have to bite my tongue! Lol. Ill just say this "Stay tuned."  Soap  Jar   16:33, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Re:
Woah! Nice work. I don't see any of that could be reverted. You added a lot to the article. Tbh, I've been planning on working on her main article for a while, but it was such a damn mess I didn't wanna touch it. :L Thanks for doing it. :) — Status  &#x7B;talk contribs 18:07, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thankyou. I want to work on the movie/film section to. Its a bit weird and should be divided into two or three parts. True it was a massive mess lol and i was happy to do it :).  Soap  Jar   18:12, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Glad to see someone else working on her articles. I've been mostly focused on her lists for the past while. Discography down, filmography is at FLC, songs are being worked on, videography was started and so was awards. xD I think it would great if we maybe worked on the article together. It is still in need of some major copyediting, but its shape is looking better. It's also needing some sourcing for her earlier works. I also started a relationships article in my sandbox. Seeing as how her personal life has been subject to a lot of shit, I think it could easily become a huge article itself. — Status  &#x7B;talk contribs 18:30, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Why did you remove the years (e.g. 2002-06).??  Soap  Jar   18:25, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Personally, I think it looks better without them. And if we're gonna do that, might as well do it with reality television section too, etc. <font face="Arial" size="2em">— Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs 18:30, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok...i wasn't meaning to edit it all by myself aha :) I think the awards page needs A LOT of work done. But if you want to i would love to work with you on it, i feel alone and kinda scared to make major changes to a page sometimes lol, so that would be good. I'm not sure about the relationships..ill check out your sandbox to see. I really think the article should be illustrated better. She needs more pictures (more pictures from her early days from late 90s to early 2000s, and recent pictures) but I'm really stupid when it comes to copyright/pictures/etc i've read everything, it hasn't clicked in my mind aha. lol. Do you know if we can get some pictures? :\ If so, where? I also think that "business/other work" thing is stupid. In my opinion; everything should be merged together (Business moves, movies, television appearances, and music should all be together) as its all too disorganized. And i think American Idol should be merged into the music career section..but that wouldn't seem right. :\ lol im conflicted lol. I think we should leave the years. People may be in a rush and writing years down is a good guide.  Soap  Jar   18:39, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

I've always thought the same. Have everything under one thing. But as this girl pretty much does everything, I think it would look nicer if it was separated. I think Idol and Q'Viva should be merged into music career, yeah. It technically is a part of it. It's not like she's a reality TV star. Or it could go in business? IDK. I just don't think it needs its own section. Maybe an "other ventures" section, with the business stuff and reality? Her main thing is acting and singing, so everything else is pretty much other ventures. I'd love for you to help. I was feeling so overwhelmed with it. :L <font face="Arial" size="2em">— Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs 18:43, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Well i will take the liberty of moving Al & Qv to the music career. Also may i put the years back in? It looks better like that and is easier to read the contents as a guide. Also i don't think that AL and Qv should be in that section, its not business (if it were to be done like that, then EVERYTHING would be business, because for her, it technically is.:p). And did u see what i said about the pics? Hope u did.. What about an "Endorsements" section? Many things would fall under this category. Anyway i still think that the movies + music should be merged together. I can have that done (if you and others agree) in a short amount of time. All i need to do is put in the movie sentences in between the music ones, and mix and match it up so it doesn't sound odd. Also – about the Reality section i made; i did that as i was going to add In Living Color to it, and add more info about her dancing etc as it isn't touched on enough. About finding sources for her early days in the business, thats easy. Just type it into a google news archive. IT works wonders :D :D and newspapers can never be turned down as a source.  Soap  Jar   18:52, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I did. I've actually been looking for images while doing her lists, to no such luck. :( What about something like Justin Timberlake? "Entertainment career", "other ventures"? Yeah, go right ahead. I think you should C&P the article into your sandbox tbh. Be easier, and you won't have any edit conflicts. <font face="Arial" size="2em">— Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs 18:56, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * How about you take the music and acting career in your sandbox, and I'll do the business and shit stuff in mine. :) <font face="Arial" size="2em">— Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs 18:57, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Hmm... I'm not 100% sure about it. I mean, take a look at this. A lot of this is well written, and taking it apart would be a bitch. But if you think you are able to do that, I say go right ahead. I say you could like separate them into that, and then we could assign each other separate eras to do? Copyedit it, source it, etc. I think that would be a good idea. <font face="Arial" size="2em">— Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs 19:09, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

When you have time, would you mind taking a look at the lead for List of songs recorded by Jennifer Lopez? I am really struggling with it. I think I just need some fresh eyes on it. :P <font face="Arial" size="2em">— Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs 19:51, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry i couldn't reply sooner, i dozed off infront of my screen. What do you mean your not 100% Sure about what? About the Other ventures etc, i think we should leave it as it is. I moved the early life, movie info & music career to my sandbox, and I'm going to work on merging them together..it would be great if you could help. ALso about the list, i will have a look... is there anything in particular you are struggling with that page that you want me to specifically help ya with? If so, let me know i will do it.  Soap  Jar   04:41, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I wasn't 100% convinced on it, but then I got used to the idea. And it's alright. :) I think it really should all be merged together. Just tell me my dooties. :P Well, overall, I feel like the lead is lacking. I like the way it's setup, intro, small info on sound of her songs from the albums producers etc, and then some controversy (which I haven't finished yet). <font face="Arial" size="2em">— Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs 05:06, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Right now i'm working on Jen's movie breakthrough in the career section (which will include movies, music and al and qv and everything like that) and I'm writing a bit about Selena and other movies. Hopefully i'll have the overall result done within a few hours.  Soap  Jar   05:17, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, while you're doing that, I'm working on a couple of her song articles. Trying to reconstruct I'm Gonna Be Alright atm. Who else has released remixes like that as singles? I can't name a single person but Ms. Lopez. I'd also love to collaborate with you on the rest of her articles as well. It's great to have someone else working on them too. There was one, Lil Unique (who got Louboutins and On the Floor to GA), but he is pretty much retired now. :( <font face="Arial" size="2em">— Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs 05:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep that's a good idea – that whole section about NAS + 50 is unsourced, the last time i checked. If you need any sources for anything ask me and i'll find it. Yep, I'm up to do anything. I usually work on Soap articles, so its fun to work on something different. I love the fact you have a sandbox for Walking on Sunshine, amazing song and one of my favs, and i didn't know that it charted on hot dance club songS?. I also want to work on the Rebirth (and the rest of her album articles which have 0 information lol) so we can work on that togeth. And yes! nobody as been so successful with REMIXES as her! I actually love working on her articles in her early career (and working on the text until up to now) it takes me back in time. She crushed Destiny's Child's remix album lol. :)  Soap  Jar   05:37, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * - also i just did a quick search, i found these (im not sure if they are usable or not, but its worth a check) for a source regarding the "controversy" section. Nas - Nas Threatens 50 Cent Over Lopez Track, Nas - Nas: '50 Cent Isn't Worthy Of A Response', im not sure if they are a help, but just see them. The info there needs to have atleast 1 or 2 sources.  Soap  Jar   05:42, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, that person could have focused on something else instead of the loubo track :\ it was a complete flop and fail. Hehe :)  Soap  Jar   05:45, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Re: Re
Yeah, I hope that sometime it will be notable enough to go into the mainspace. And yeah, it did! I'm thinking it may have been a single, such as how "Alive" and "No me ames" was. It did receive a vinyl release, and it was a b-side for "Gonna Be Alright". Yeah, I'm currently searching for information about it, and the original song. I'm sure it won't be too hard (on the remix, that is). J.Lo is her best album. There, I said it. <font face="Arial" size="2em">— Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs 05:51, 29 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes. It should have been released instead of PLAY. J.Lo and Love? are my fav dance-albums, Como Ama Una Mujer is her best album to date. She doesn't hold back and proves herself as a singer, even i doubted her before. And she performed the Que Hicste live many times. She needs to sing in spanisH! She is so much more confident! My least fav is This Is Me ... Then, it made me sick about how everything was ded to Ben Affleck, lol. BUt i still loved it. Brave was boring but i liked a few tracks its very dancey-R&B.  Soap  Jar   05:55, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I've been searching for a source. It sounds like one (and not just because of the Oprah thing). My favorites would be (in this order): J.Lo, Rebirth, This Is Me... Then, Love?, Brave, Como Ama Una Mujer, On the 6. Apart from the singles, I find On the 6 to be quite hard to listen to (all the way through). <font face="Arial" size="2em">— Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs 06:05, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. :) Btw, take a peak: Alive (Jennifer Lopez song) :D Need to hunt down a release date... <font face="Arial" size="2em">— Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs 06:54, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

OHH THATS GOOD :) Hey here is my progress as of now on her "career" section - check it out. Tell me if I'm missing something or something doesn't sound right.  Soap  Jar    06:56, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Lookin' pretty good. :) I will take an intense look at it later (not sure if that's the right word to use, but anwyays.) <font face="Arial" size="2em">— Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs 07:01, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I haven't gone through and read it. When i'm finished with the info, I'm going to read it an word it properly etc. but i think its okay now. also we NEEDDDD wayyy more pictures for this article. It looks like a dead piece of text :( needs to be illustrated better, kwim??  Soap  Jar   07:02, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey...would any of the pictures here be able to come on wikipedia and be used in her article?  Soap  Jar    07:09, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure. It depends on the photographer's copyright (if any) of the images. Sorry for the late reply. Was "going back in time" to see if I could find any info about the release of "Alive". <font face="Arial" size="2em">— Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs 07:25, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh aha i see :)I love ALIVE. Anyway, if i had very clear screen captures (i took myself) of Jennifer's first concert, would that be any good? Or not...im just wondering. She needs better pics.  Soap  Jar   07:40, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that would be allowed. That's how we do music video screenshots, so. :P (Which she also needs... let's hope we get a DVD with all her videos with this GH). <font face="Arial" size="2em">— Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs 07:54, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Really? WOW! So if i sent you (via email) pictures of screen shots i have from my JLo in concert DVD, could u upload them for me (sorry im crap at uploading :'? Or would it be removed by another user? :\ Also, im finished with my sandbox thingy. I want to move it over to JLo's official article (the career section), sorry im just very eager to lolol :D  Soap  Jar   08:05, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * LOL sure. Well, I'm going to bed now, but I'll talk to you later. <font face="Arial" size="2em">— Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs 08:30, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * hey...guess what? :D I've added 100 sources/references to the JLo article since yesterday!! :D  Soap  Jar   14:00, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Woah! That is amazing! Great job! The article is looking great! 80k to 130k! :O Now I think it's time for some copyediting, yeah? Are you completely done of what you were doing now? Don't want edit warring. xD <font face="Arial" size="2em">— Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs 16:17, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, i want to work more on philanthropy and other Ventures, so if you could leave that section to me :). Hey, do you think that we would be able to get any pics from here Maribel Foundation Website ?? THere are some good pics..just wondering. I would love to add a picture to the philanthropy showing Jennifer in one of these pics. Also if you are going to change a title, please tell me :).  Soap  Jar   03:09, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * + Thankyou so much for saying good job. It means alot; nobody really notices or credits my work a lot other then my friends (i have only 4 on here) and it makes me feel good.  Soap  Jar   03:16, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

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Jenny from the Block
OK, so what do you think about this: I think it would be much easier if we each took a section from the article, put it on our sandbox, and copyedited, added more info etc to each section on its own. Then add it back into the article, and do it again. I find it hard to edit an article when its so huge, to be honest. How about you something like: And I really think the personal life section could easily be its own article. <font face="Arial" size="2em">— Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs 16:45, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Early life - You
 * 2) Acting debut... - Me
 * 3) Musical debut... - You
 * 4) Remixes... - Me
 * 5) Como... - You
 * 6) American Idol... - Me
 * 7) Fashion - You
 * 8) Endorsements - Me
 * 9) Philanthropy - You
 * Um.... i think we can just edit anything really, don't you think? Ill try and work on her Early Life (i want to make that my main goal for today, to find more info and expand that). Ill also work on her musical debut. While you are copy editing, would that possibly mean removing sources/refs?? Sorry its just the more references and sources the page has the more better it is. Plus i want JLo's page to have more then beyonce and mariah :D lol hehheheheehe. Anyway, what do you think of the page now? I added "endorsements" what do you think?? Considering she has so much endorsements. And i added info about the maribel foundation, what are ya thinking? :) And i agree - the personal life section needs to be either made into its own article (but i personally think it needs to be separated into sections, like Early Personal Life, First and Second Marriage, the Bennifer thingy and motherhood and third marriage, what do u think?). It's not that large but compared to that of others stars personal lives, it is a book LOL. I think it should stay, its easier. Also i changed my mind. Ill work on the musical debut + Early life for now. Also, I'm not always the best speller or anything i'm not sure about my copy-editing it, but ill try my hardest. :)  Soap  Jar   02:56, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * yeah, I suppose you're right. Just wanted to keep it more organized, you know? I think it looks good. I'll work on it some later today. I have until Thursday to really work at it. That's when 2nd semester starts, and back to school. :( <font face="Arial" size="2em">— Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs 15:29, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi!!
Hey Arre!! I made myself a userbox today. What fun that was! If you go to it, I listed how long I've been on Wiki (only 10 days thus far), my fave show (B&B) and the worst show in history (OLTL). It was actually quite difficult; I was stumped on which show to put as the worst; OLTL, Another World or Passions. They were all equally awful. But even though I said AW was probably worse than OLTL I'll have to rephrase that as now as I think back OLTL in the 90s was way worse than AW (or Passions). Back in the 90s, I was laid off when my company went bankrupt, so I was working for my father afterward to pay the bills and I had a lot of spare time so a typical day for me in 1996 was to go to work in the morning, get home by about 12:15, sit my butt down and watch some serious soaps. I would watch AMC, tape B&B with my VCR (so old school!), then ATWT, watch GL and tape GH. As soon as GL was done, I watched B&B and then GH. Ah, when I had time to do that. I dropped GH in 2000 as there seemed to be no more time as I was working more, but it seemed to be for nothing because not long after I became an addict to DOOL! Anyway, enough about me. I ramble on and on for no reason lol :P But DOOL's done for me now. Basically I'm so crazy busy the only soap I watch is B&B. I really wanna start watching GH again. I miss it, but I know by the time I start my schedule will be crazy again :( I've also become an addict to Judge Judy now!! lol. I used to watch Oprah every day too (and since Judge Judy has taken its place, wasn't crazy about it at first but look at me now!) Aside from B&B and GL (the two best shows ever), Oprah was literally the best show in the history of life on earth. I balled my eyes out when it ended last year! lol. Did you watch Oprah? Do you watch Coronation Street?? I can't say its bad because I've only seen literally two episodes like seven years ago, but everyone's british accents really bugged me!! Anyway, get back to me. I would love to chat more!! Alfredo114 (talk) 19:13, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Heyyy SG!! :) Thats great that you did that. Aha lol most awful soap. The last episode of OLTL was no justice, it just capped off the show in the worst way. I liked Passions in the beginning. Aw ahaa thats so cute lol. In the 1990s, i was very young. And i missed lots of school one year, and i kept watching DOOL. I remember watching when i was like 10-12 (cant remember) GINA scared the crap out of me idk why!!! Ahahaha her face gave me the creeps. GH i watch occasionally but i don't commit. I watch Judge Judy sometimes. I love Australian + English Soaps. I watch EastEnders, Coronation Street. And i watch Home and Away from Australia, its a great show. I love British accents! :D OMG were u watching Y&R back when Patty shot Jack? Well guess what - history has repeated itself! She shot him the other day! Also, i think i am taking a break from editing soap pages. Not enough help :\\  Soap  Jar    03:12, 30 January 2012 (UTC)


 * OMG!!!! Patty shot Jack!! I just watched the Jan. 30th episode!! Does Genevieve leave?? She can't!! I was just warming up to her character. And Emily's back too!! Just as Ronan and Paul discover that Patty is the one involved in Diane's murder!! AHH! Does Jack die?? Probably not lol. Oh and SG I sooo wish you watched Y&R because its sooooo good right now!! And Arre long are you thinking of taking a break from editing soaps? I'll help!! I'm willing :) What Y&R character page are you on now? Have you finished 2005? Let me know. I can hardly wait for tomorrow's episode! If you've seen it please no spoilers!! Creativity97   Talk?  22:14, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry I haven't been as much help as I should be, I've been busy handling a lot of personal things going on. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 22:35, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * No, i don't think she leaves for good. I know!!! ITS SO FRIGGING shocking! Patty is a psycho. But i love her. I have to say, im not a Jack fan but i saw the promo and it seemed SO serious i thought he was gonna die but i saw him at the end, he'll be fine. I'm not working on any pages right now. I found a bunch of characters from 1980, and i was going to make that page, but i really am not motivated enough for it. I've been working intensley with turning around the Jennifer Lopez page and so far have made a large progress with JLo's page :) thats my main focus. GUESS what i paid my grandma a LONG overdue visit and found hundreds of Soap magazines! So much great sources to add to Wikipedia pages! AMAZING i think i'll to that if i feel like it. I LOVEEE GEnevieve !!!! One of my new favorites. ALso, MF don't you worry!! :) i understand what's going on..:)  Soap  Jar   07:14, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks SoapJar. I'm just trying to regain myself and get back into a groove of how my days used to be. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 18:26, 31 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Hey guys!! And MF I knew that during Jack and Gen's wedding Patty was going to be revealed to the world!! Perfect timing if you ask me :) And I was talking to Soap General (Alfredo) and I think that they might be considering leaving Wiki. Don't really know why, and now they're not answering my messages on their talk. I was talking to them on my talk and I was doing some de-cluttering and I got rid of our conversation. Oops. Anyway, I don't really know when and if they're leaving, so I'll let you know :) Talk soon !! Creativity97   Talk?  22:33, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Why is Alfredo leaving? That's sad! They barely gave it a chance!!! And the past few days have been amazing on Y&R thanks to February sweeps. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 18:12, 2 February 2012 (UTC)