User talk:AJona1992/Archive 1

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January 2010
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FIRT OFF I NEVER VANDALISED THE SELENA PAGE. I AM A FAN AND THERE FOR WILL CONTIUNE TO ADD MORE IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM THEN DEAL WITH IT. BECUASE I WILL CONTACT WIKI ABOUT YOU. THANK YOU. AND HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY!

Selena
Hi, Jonathan.

Here's the link, diff, to your edit in which you added Category:Mexican musicians. That's what my edit was about. SamEV (talk) 01:50, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh ok, sorry. I know Selena is Mexican-American but yea someone should if not created; create Category:Mexican-American musicians, thanks! AJona1992 (talk)


 * I cleaned up your changes. My edit had to do with grammar, punctuation, and such, but also with Wikipedia's formatting style. See Talk:Selena for more.
 * I'm neither for or against your changes. If they get reverted, try talking it over with the reverter, rather than repeating your edits. But if, if you do restore your edits, I ask that you restore to a cleaned up version, such as this last one, or an even newer one; then perhaps make any further changes to that version. Repeating your recent edits would put the same errors back into the article. Remember, this is a featured article, so we should make sure that it always looks nice for all of its readers.
 * Take care, Jonathan. SamEV (talk) 06:36, 2 February 2010 (UTC)


 * See the links in the welcome message above. The specific guide you asked for might be WP:BETTER. Good luck. SamEV (talk) 01:01, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Those edits you just did need heavy cleanup. I'd do it, by I can't right now. If you want, create a sandbox with your version of the article. I'll then help clean it up tomorrow, so you can load it into the article afterwards. To create a sandbox just write "/sandbox" in your browser's address bar, after your user name. SamEV (talk) 18:20, 21 February 2010 (UTC); 18:27, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

I will, later in the day. Remind me if I forget. SamEV (talk) 17:53, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I see that you haven't created the sandbox. Click here to create it with your version of the article. Then message me on my talk page if you want my help editing those changes. SamEV (talk) 17:57, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Excellent. I'll go look at some articles and then edit it. SamEV (talk) 22:21, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

I just edited it. See the edit summary and also the sandbox's talk page. SamEV (talk) 04:29, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Cite error fixed. SamEV (talk) 17:56, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh... I thought you were going to make some more changes to the sandbox, such as putting back a few sentences that were in your first version of the sandbox.

I added the refs section to fix the cite error, but it needs to be removed before you add that content to the Selena article, because the Selena article already has a refs section. SamEV (talk) 18:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry about the cite error message. It won't show in the Selena article. SamEV (talk) 18:13, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

If the cite error shows up in the Selena article, I'll fix it, so don't worry about it.

Now remember: I don't necessarily endorse your changes. I'm only trying to make sure that they're presentable. Good luck. SamEV (talk) 18:20, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

I said it just above: it won't show up in the real article. The reason you see it in the sandbox is only because the sandbox version has no References section. But if somehow it shows up, I'll fix it anyway. SamEV (talk) 01:16, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

OK, there you go, Jonathan: User:AJona1992/sandbox. Now it doesn't have a cite error. But if you ever add that content to the article, just remember to remove "==References==" and "" beforehand, so the Selena article doesn't end up with two References sections. SamEV (talk) 00:57, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

P.S. I'm done for the day, so if you do make any changes, I won't be able to help today. SamEV (talk) 00:59, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

All right, I'll have a look later. SamEV (talk) 22:57, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey, Jon. I hope to do some work on the sandbox Saturday or Sunday. SamEV (talk) 02:10, 24 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, just send me a message when your done, thanks!!! AJona1992 (talk) 03:25, 24 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd like you to load the content piecemeal, instead of at once, because I may have to review some of it. I mean especially the sources you gave in the paragraphs before she gets married: I don't think I tried verifying them when I edited that content a few weeks ago, and if you load everything at once it might overwhelm me if I have to read them all at once. Do you know what I mean? So I'd like for you to add the content maybe a paragraph, or two at most, per day.


 * But don't forge that, obviously, there are other users who will have their own opinions of these changes you're making. SamEV (talk) 06:50, 29 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Yep, finished. SamEV (talk) 01:22, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

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File:Selenaliveinconcert.jpg
First, this image is orphaned which means it is subject to deletion unless it is used in an article within seven days of being tagged. Second, it's orphaned because it is entirely inappropriate to place a fair use image of a performer on that performer's discography. If you cast about the project, you will be hard pressed to find another discography which has a fair use image of a performer. If a person needs to see what Selena looks like, they can go to Selena, which has many images of her. Please stop re-instating this or any other non-free image to Selena discography. Thank you, --Hammersoft (talk) 14:07, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * We know the artist is notable. That's why there is an article on her at Selena. We don't place fair use images on discographies. They are in fact not needed, as a person can readily go to the artist's main page to see images of them. --Hammersoft (talk) 17:58, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * That's the problem. The image is NOT free. Is there a language barrier here? Do you understand what copyrighted means? --Hammersoft (talk) 18:04, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * That doesn't make it free. It's copyrighted, and marked as such. Just because something is available on the web for public viewing doesn't make it free of copyright. You can't just take something you found on the web somewhere and declare it free. It doesn't work that way. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:08, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Fine, they say it can be used. That doesn't make it free. We don't accept permission to use imagery. It must be released under a free license. Furthermore, I can't anywhere on that web site where they state the release as you claim. Prove it. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:21, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I was copying all of my responses here to your talk page so that you would not make the mistake of continuing to revert war to your preferred version of the discography while discussion was going on between us. That was for naught, as you chose to do so anyways. You've therefore left my no choice but to report this incident to WP:AN/I. Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents. Good day, --Hammersoft (talk) 18:32, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion nomination of Pop sampler (Selena single)
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 * Thank you for your reply. I do not believe it is notable and would like others to make the final decision at AFD. Feel free to contribute to the process. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 23:39, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Well thats what you "THINK" but I "THINK" it is HAHAHAHAAH AJona1992 (talk) 17:59, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

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Feria del Sol (Mérida)
Hola a ti, te escribo en español porque mi ingles es un poco piadoso...te escribo si por favor puede mejorar ese articulo en ingles sobre la base española, esta todo perfecto, falta solo que me sacas el template si tu lo puede sacar y si por favor me puede corregir los errores gramaticales, por el cambio te puedo ayudar con una traduccion en italiano y muchos de sus dialectos, en un articulo de tu interes...gracias en adelante para la ayuda que me daras^____^ saludos desde Campora San Giovanni y tambien moralmente desde Mérida, Venezuela--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 18:41, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi! I don't know Spanish, but, however, I did use a translation for this. Please correct me if I'm wrong, you want me to help improve this article? AJona1992 (talk) 20:58, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * ok...sorry, i write if you can correct grammar and ortography errors...for the change i translate in italian and his dialect an article of your interest...thank you so much--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 04:30, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * well...I explain you me with my bad English.... they are Spanish nicknames, then I have translated her from the Spanish and from Italian.... imagined that I don't practise the English from the superior schools, however for any eventuality turn to Goro87 that is my translator and proofreader of Trust.... I beg you to come I meet me.... this article for me is very important... and there will be available also the photos soon.... thanks and to good to make--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 18:36, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Re: Translation
Hi, which page is that I should translate to Hungarian? I will see it, although I can't promise anything because I don't speak English very well (I speak Spanish better) and I don't have too much time nowadays. Anyway, I'll help with pleasure if I can. --El Mexicano (talk) 05:55, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Re:Translation help

 * ✅ I have helped you create this article about Selena on Minnan Wikipedia. --Jose77 (talk) 09:56, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

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 * Ok, I took the information out, thank you! AJona1992 (talk) 17:35, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Adoption
Oh, you're welcome if you need help just come to me. PS I like your article lol.--The guy dubbed Curtis23 Curtis23's talk 20:26, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Galicia
Oh absolutely, I love speaking Galician and reading and listening and all that, and of course going to Galicia! The Galician wikipedia is awesome, so check it out if you haven't already. Have you ever been to Galicia or know any of the language? --dannycas (talk) 23:45, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Well that's great that you know about this part of your heritage. What sort of translation did you have in mind? --dannycas (talk) 22:22, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Sure, I can get the ball rolling on that. --dannycas (talk) 23:44, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I learned it from a young age and by visiting often since my mom is from Galicia and i have a ton of family there.--dannycas (talk) 23:17, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

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DYK Nomination for Como La Flor (song)
I've turned this nomination down as the expansion started a lot more than 5 days ago and isn't at 5x yet - also you weren't the expander unless the IP 67.189.173.65 was you as well. Finally, when adding a nomination try not to mess up earlier nominations as you did to 'Dante's Dream'. Before making another nomination please familiarise yourself with the DYK rules, feel free to ask me if you have any questions about all this. Cheers, Mikenorton (talk) 14:57, 24 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, and Yes I was the one who added all that information on April 7, 2010 as you can see "AJona1992" is below that person you are referring to. And I won't I didn't know how to nominate an article and was a little bit frustrated that there wasn't any help haha but ok. AJona1992 (talk) 15:16, 24 April 2010 (UTC)


 * That's fine, I didn't mean to come over as annoyed, sorry if that's how it reads. Working out the amount of expansion of an article is never easy, there's a handy little add-on called 'DYK check' that makes it easier, which I can explain about adding if you're ever interested. I don't want to put anyone off from nominating articles to DYK, I made plenty of blunders when I first started putting some of mine forward. The rules probably seem rather picky, but now that I've started reviewing nominations as well, I'm getting to understand why they're there. It's not a bad idea just to watch the suggestions page for a while, as most things come up there. Cheers, Mikenorton (talk) 15:25, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Sure I'll help
I'll help for sure but I'll need the page.The guy dubbed Curtis23 Curtis23's talk 20:45, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Jona
I removed my adopt offer template with the adopted template since i've officially adopted you.--The guy dubbed Curtis23 Curtis23's talk Curtis23's Contributions 20:50, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

I just wanted to tell you.--Curtis23's Usalions 23:06, 17 May 2010 (UTC) So do you need my assistance on anything?Curtis23's Usalions 01:11, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

April 16
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Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Ricky Vela
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 * all I am doing is adding information, all they want to do is to take it off, which has source. AJona1992 (talk) 20:57, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Please review your sources, such as this one, as it doesn't verify the claim that Dreaming of You was certified 36-times platinum. Regardless of the issue, both of the parties have failed use the talk page to resolve the dispute. Persistent edit warring will only lead to blocks being issued. — ξ xplicit  21:01, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok well thank you, I will find the right one! since Dreaming of You did sell well over what wiki has it! and I am sorry AJona1992 (talk) 21:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Selena ¡VIVE!
The article Selena ¡VIVE! you nominated as a WP:Good Article status. Unfortunately, it failed as it needs alot of work. Please see the review page for what needs to be worked on. Please take the time and work on it. Tb hotch Ta lk C. 02:50, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know, I will go and check it out! AJona1992 (talk) 14:14, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Selena Etc. GA nomination
Hi there, I've reviewed Selena Etc. against the GA criteria and unfortunately it doesn't meet the criteria at this time. I have left some comments at the review page. I think you may have been a little premature in nominating so many articles. Have a read over Good article criteria for more information and try to compare the articles you're working on to other articles that are currently GA or FA. Peer review is a good first step for developing articles. For future reference, you need to add a template to the top of the talkpage of the article you're nominating, as described in the instructions at WP:GAN. Feel free to ask if you have any questions I didn't address in the review. Regards, -- Beloved Freak  20:21, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, just to let you know that I removed your nomination for Selena discography from the WP:GAN page because lists don't get to be GAs for some reason. You could nominate it for featured list, but I would strongly recommend taking it to peer review first.-- Beloved Freak  20:28, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Selena products
Regarding your GA nomination of Selena products, I have failed it and removed it from the nominations list, as it is not close to being ready for such a nomination. I cannot give it a review in the usual place, because you did not complete the nomination correctly (see step 3 of "How to nominate an article" at WP:GAN), so I will explain it here. The basic problems are: an almost complete lack of sources and references for the article (this alone is enough to disqualify it), a very inconsistent formatting of book titles (should be in italics), album titles (italics), and song titles (double quotes); some troubles with English usage; and the fact that most of the article is comprised of lists, which means it isn't eligible for "good article" status.

I'd strongly suggest you'd refrain from further GA nominations for a while, and instead study what existing GA articles look like and try to emulate them. Wasted Time R (talk) 03:48, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Talkback on User talk:MikeAllen
Also on your photo, I corrected the, so it's not so dark. If it was intentional feel free to revert. :)  Mike   Allen   21:23, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Selena
Hello, I see you have reverted the edits I have done. But I only put the unofficial web site because Crash Bandicoot allows it. So is Selena the only page not allowed to have sites like that? AJona1992 (talk) 15:53, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * But there is a big difference between both article Selena is a WP:FA and Crash Bandicoot (character) (I think you refered to this article), is not, either, a WP:FA nor WP:GA. Tb hotch Ta lk C.  19:19, 9 July 2010 (UTC)


 * So your saying that only non FA's and GA's are allowed to have unofficial web sites? AJona1992 (talk) 19:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Mo, I am saying that non-FAs or GAs are in control and the additions of unsourced content, vandalism or other kind of editions deface them. Also, per WP:ELNO it is not allowed. Tb hotch Ta lk C.  19:40, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Selena WikiProject
Thanks I'm actually completely ignorant about Selena; I simply created some subcategories and moved a page to a more appropriate title. Consequently, I can't really be of assistance to you. Let me know if there's something else I can do for you. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:37, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Inappropriate canvassing
Please do not leave other edits comments like this in order to persuade the result of the Selena WikiProject proposal; doing so is in violation of canvassing behavioral guideline. In the future, leave neutral notifications regarding such discussions without telling or alluding to another user whether to support or oppose a discussion. — ξ xplicit  06:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh well my bad stalker, damn lolz AJona1992 (talk) 15:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Moksha wiki Selena article
Hi, Jonathan. I made stub article mdf:Selena in Moksha wiki. Will expand it a bit later--Numulunj pilgae 08:36, 15 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Numulunj pilgae (talk • contribs)


 * Ok, thank you! AJona1992 (talk) 12:36, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but the article on Selena is not now a priority in our Biquipedia (aragonese Biquipedia). As we have very little time is better spent on higher priority issues. (automatic traduction) --Manuel Trujillo Berges (talk) 17:48, 19 July 2010 (UTC) (an:Usuario:Manuel Trujillo Berges)

Selena
Hello AJona; Thank you for created Selena page on Persian Wikipedia. You say would love me to expand this page on fawiki. With happy! I am at your service. I can expand this page Through translation of enwiki. I love this work! Thanks again. Your friend. --Elmju (talk) 04:35, 20 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Aw thank you so much, I love the Persian and Arabic languages it's so beautiful and the music! Thanks again AJona1992 (talk) 11:43, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Re: Selena@ThWP
I can do that, but I'm sorry that I can't spend my time writing the article right now. I guess you have to wait or look for the others... --ThHorus (talk) 07:51, 20 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, no problem. AJona1992 (talk) 11:45, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Selena
Please stop creating stubs throughout Wikipedia because their will be deleted as Selena Tb hotch Ta lk C.  17:01, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I can do whatever I want TO DO, there's no RULES against this now is there? go cry somewhere else please thank you AJona1992 (talk) 19:19, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok whatever, those are speedily deleted nad if you try to recreate them, they will be salted, so Congratulations Selena fan. Tb hotch Ta lk C.  22:08, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello,
 * Be aware that if I need another time to spend one hour to delete your cross-wiki stubs I may ask some blocks against you. No rules doesn't mean you can do whatever you want...
 * I hope it's just a one shot mistake.
 * --Hercule (talk) 22:17, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh really? well I don't give two f's iight you don't need to do nothing, theres bots that do that for you, so again, so cry somewhere else, becuz you don't faze me dude. btw I always win hahahaha AJona1992 (talk) 23:53, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You should learn how Wikipedia works. There is no bot to delete interwiki spam. So interwikis spammer see their account globally lock...
 * I don't need to cry, I just inform you of the risks...
 * Regards
 * --Hercule (talk) 00:04, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


 * @TBnotch: I am a Selena fan so what are you trying to say? your coming to me way too hard and I don't play silly games either boy AJona1992 (talk) 01:46, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't come to your way in a "hard way", I just told you that it has nonsense created stubs in english in the hindu or other wikis, because they easily can be deleted per WP:A7, the next thing that you do was WP:IGNORE me, yes is a rule, but in a rude way. Tb hotch Ta lk C.  01:51, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I was never ignoring you, I stopped two days ago on that, oh well they keep being added that's not my fault. AJona1992 (talk) 01:52, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You should say that in the first place "I created those pages yesterday, is not my problem that the bot is adding them now", instead of "go cry somewhere else", please do not do this again or maybe you will be block for be unkind. Tb hotch Ta lk <sup style="color:#2C1608;">C.  02:02, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Like I said I'm sorry there your happy AJona1992 (talk) 02:04, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

July 2010
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to the article User talk:Tbhotch, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Tb hotch Ta lk <sup style="color:#2C1608;">C. 23:57, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Yo your TALK PAGE is not an encyclopedic dude like I said get a life becuz you haters ain't got shit on me bra peace, *rushes to add more Selena information* HAHAHAHAHAhAHA AJona1992 (talk) 23:58, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Please do not attack other editors, as you did at User:AJona1992. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Tb hotch Ta lk <sup style="color:#2C1608;">C. 00:11, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Umm, AJona? That's not very helpful. If you keep acting immature and disruptive you'll be blocked in no-time, which means no editing Selena articles. "Haters ain't got shit on me". Oh, I could think of a few things we've gotten already on your behavior. Anyway, I would advise you start acting mature if you're serious about editing here. <span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print"> Mike  Allen   00:36, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, are you letting friends or someone on your account, or is possible that someone is accessing your account without your knowledge? <span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print"> Mike  Allen   00:39, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Mike why are you here? first off AJona1992 is ME I don't let no one access my account I don't do sock or w.e its called anymore Jonaboy1992 was an OLD account but I wanted a new one. AJona1992 (talk) 01:43, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm here because your page is on my watchlist from the last conversation we've had. I don't want to see you blocked so was giving you some advice to avoid it.  I didn't suggest that you were socking; I was asking if somehow your account got compromised.  That is all. <span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print"> Mike   Allen   02:54, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Well next time you can do a little better with the advice because what you said "which means no editing Selena articles. "Haters ain't got shit on me".  Oh, I could think of a few things we've gotten already on your behavior. " was not a "good" way to give me advice becuz like on The Bad Girls Club you have made some remarks about things that weren't cool either. I'm just saying and I'm not being rude or anything like that. AJona1992 (talk) 03:46, 25 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Asking you to cut out the personal attacks before you get blocked is not good advice, or "cool"? I could have easily endorsed the AN/I discussion to block you for unwarranted personal attacks and being disruptive.  I didn't.  Oh, and commented on BGC talk page.  That's the same stunt you pulled with taking my comments about Tanisha Thomas out of context, when I commented about the article, not about the person. Please stop your wild accusations.  <span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print"> Mike   Allen   04:09, 25 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Mike I wasn't talking about that, I was talking about what you was trying to say to me. And it seemed like you was talking stuff about her and I only told you about it to stop it becuz it can be offensive. *Ends this "talk" ttyl* AJona1992 (talk) 04:52, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

ANI notice
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Tb hotch Ta lk <sup style="color:#2C1608;">C. 00:28, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Hello Jonathan. Please calm down and don't insult other editors. If you continue to make attacks then you may end up blocked, so please don't. Although it's not the concern of English Wikipedians, you will have more success with creating articles about Selena on other Wikipedias if you work with local editors to translate them; dumping in stubs in English isn't constructive. Fences  &amp;  Windows  00:47, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry AJona1992 (talk) 01:41, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Selena article on trwiki
Sorry for my late reply. I am busy with other projects right now so I won't have time to expand the Selena article on the Turkish Wikipedia. You may want to place a request on tr:Vikipedi:Madde istekleri/Biyografi. --İnfoCan (talk) 10:34, 24 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Done! AJona1992 (talk) 04:58, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

How about you lay off the personal attacks
Before you get yourself blocked for insulting other users as you insulted me in this edit summary. Considering there was a recent report of your behavior, I'm sure other admins won't contest to blocking you. If you can't play nicely, you won't be able to play at all. — ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  05:04, 25 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, your edit to Selena was not good (since I can't "attack you") in a way because that information had been there for nearly a year and that statement is true, so since you like to "think" all my owned pictures are not owned every time I upload them and now this so all I just said was that so anyways back to editing yea I just don't think you should of undone that, I think it wasn't a really good one at that. TTYL AJona1992 (talk) 13:30, 25 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I undid your edits at Selena because you kept adding categories that are redundant to others already listed. As I mentioned in my edit summary, WP:CAT, only the most specific categories are used when categorizing pages. The "Selena attained further notability in North America after she was murdered..." statement may have been there for a year, but it was unsourced for all that time. When making claims like that, you need to add a reliable source to verify the claim. As for the images, as I had explained when nominating them for deletion, owning a photo of someone doesn't automatically allow you to claim it as your own work and release under a free license. The person who took the picture—whoever that may be—is the copyright holder and the only person who can change its copyright status. If someone in your family took the picture and they would like to release it under a free license, they can email the volunteer response team at [mailto:permissions-en@wikimedia.org permissions-en@wikimedia.org] with the picture attached and they can specify which license they wuold like to release the photo under, see the copyrights policy with legal considerations for further information. I should point out that if a free image of Selena is made available, all the images under fair use which are used to illustrate who Selena looked like (for example, File:Selena09.jpg and File:Selenaagree.jpg) would become eligible for speedy deletion due to our strict non-free content criteria, as non-free content is not used when freely licensed content is available. — ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  19:21, 25 July 2010 (UTC)


 * So why removed categories from Selena but yet other singers are allowed to have them, and they are FA and GA status? this just doesn't sound right, this sounds more like your just a hater and don't want the proper stuff for the Selena article (not attacking you) but that's what it seems like. I have contacted them about a week ago, and still haven't received a response. But I know that you editors who dislike her are just going to delete them anyways because you "think" they aren't free, I wish I could be an admin and just delete Rihanna, Sean Paul, Jennifer Lopez, etc., pics becuz I just feel very strongly that they aren't free. But anyways what can I do, nothing. So it's whatever I really just don't care anymore, but I'm not going to let you guys just remove stuff because you "think" that its not right, free, or for w.e reason there may be, have a nice day lolz AJona1992 (talk) 21:10, 25 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Exactly don't respond because I'm right and your wrong AJona1992 (talk) 15:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Why reply to someone who's stubborn? There's no reasoning or compromise with you, it's all or nothing. I've already explained several policies and guidelines every user and article need to abide by, but as long as other articles violate them, you feel the need to violate them across the board. — ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  16:54, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Your stubborn, I'm doing what I "believe" is right, like how you "believe" everything I do is WRONG WRONG WRONG, why can't you "try" to bully other people, clearly you failed with me. AJona1992 (talk) 21:06, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * What you believe is right is clearly wrong, and I've explained why it is wrong by linking relevant policies and guidelines. For example, I explained above that pages are categorized in the most specific categories there are, yet you went on to re-add several just today . All you've done is reply with an attitude, make false claims of bullying and calling me a "hater". You're ignoring everything that's being done to steer you into the right direction and creating more problems with more users throughout the site. Unless you plan to admit you're wrong and to abide by policies and guidelines, you're just heading for an indefinite block for disruptive editing. —  ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  21:27, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Because you guys constantly "make up" rules like crosswiki, asking for translations, creating stubs, free images, not allowed to say "ignorant" and "stubborn" and more, why am I being in trouble when you guys do the same thing to me? But I am willing to try to work by the rules.


 * Please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and WP:POINT. I have restored the external links to Michael Jackson. Please discuss on the Talk page which links you think should go, and with reasons. But links to Commons are always relevant. Rodhull  andemu  16:01, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Don't tell me, tell that ignorant dude who keeps on "creating" rules. AJona1992 (talk) 21:06, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Please try also WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA, or your editing days here may well be over quite shortly. Rodhull  andemu  21:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * That's not fair, people tell me, HERE, that I am stubborn and ignorant but I can't say these back? wow thanks for telling me who's boss around here.

Images
Please stop uploading images and claiming that you are the copyright holder. It is clear that you are getting the images from other web sites. Each time you are challenged on them your story gets more elaborate. You can operate within the rules here or you will be blocked. You're not fooling anyone. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 01:52, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Wow harsh I was trying to be nice to all of you guys but I see that I just need to ignore you guys, because all you guys are gonna do is "attack" me every time I upload a FREE Selena picture. IDC what you think I REALLY DON'T. I tried to be nice (look at your talk page, and the edits on Selena) and this is what I get, I just asked you so nicely about some polices and you want send me some anger issues comments wow, but when I do it all I get is a blocked warning. AJona1992 (talk) 02:01, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Stop the melodrama. This isn't a soap opera.  Lose your attitude, be civil, and you might do well here.  If you continue to act like a child, you will be gone and your beloved Selena will be left to the dispassionate masses and you will be powerless to stop it.  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 02:17, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Why should I? I tried reasoning with you guys yet you keep ignoring me if I have to SCREAM, YELL, and do such just to get a photo then by all means, you guys keep ignoring me about my photos and that gets me upset, that's not being a CHILD, if you don't like my "talk backs" then don't mess with me, becuz I talk right BACK. Secondly I am not the ONLY Selena lover on this wiki so what are you trying to say here? oh wait your a MJ lover so you don't get it either. Yea I might be GONE but ohhhhh I ain't the ONLY fan here there will be edits edits edits and more edits by other fans, but oh yea I forgot you guys "think" she is NOTHING well here comes more of my fury, Selena is way more famous than what you guys "think", Selena fans out there, don't listen to this guy he just doesn't like Selena and so forth, he will attack you again AGAIN and AGAIN. Now tell me am I right or am I right? *Applauds* keep trying to bring me down, it's NEVER going to work dude. I will always keep uploading my wonderful family's personal photos and love for Selena and you can't tell me NO. LOLZ AJona1992 (talk) 13:56, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

How about you lay off the personal attacks
Before you get yourself blocked for insulting other users as you insulted me in this edit summary. Considering there was a recent report of your behavior, I'm sure other admins won't contest to blocking you. If you can't play nicely, you won't be able to play at all. — ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  05:04, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, your edit to Selena was not good (since I can't "attack you") in a way because that information had been there for nearly a year and that statement is true, so since you like to "think" all my owned pictures are not owned every time I upload them and now this so all I just said was that so anyways back to editing yea I just don't think you should of undone that, I think it wasn't a really good one at that. TTYL AJona1992 (talk) 13:30, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I undid your edits at Selena because you kept adding categories that are redundant to others already listed. As I mentioned in my edit summary, WP:CAT, only the most specific categories are used when categorizing pages. The "Selena attained further notability in North America after she was murdered..." statement may have been there for a year, but it was unsourced for all that time. When making claims like that, you need to add a reliable source to verify the claim. As for the images, as I had explained when nominating them for deletion, owning a photo of someone doesn't automatically allow you to claim it as your own work and release under a free license. The person who took the picture—whoever that may be—is the copyright holder and the only person who can change its copyright status. If someone in your family took the picture and they would like to release it under a free license, they can email the volunteer response team at [mailto:permissions-en@wikimedia.org permissions-en@wikimedia.org] with the picture attached and they can specify which license they wuold like to release the photo under, see the copyrights policy with legal considerations for further information. I should point out that if a free image of Selena is made available, all the images under fair use which are used to illustrate who Selena looked like (for example, File:Selena09.jpg and File:Selenaagree.jpg) would become eligible for speedy deletion due to our strict non-free content criteria, as non-free content is not used when freely licensed content is available. — ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  19:21, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * So why removed categories from Selena but yet other singers are allowed to have them, and they are FA and GA status? this just doesn't sound right, this sounds more like your just a hater and don't want the proper stuff for the Selena article (not attacking you) but that's what it seems like. I have contacted them about a week ago, and still haven't received a response. But I know that you editors who dislike her are just going to delete them anyways because you "think" they aren't free, I wish I could be an admin and just delete Rihanna, Sean Paul, Jennifer Lopez, etc., pics becuz I just feel very strongly that they aren't free. But anyways what can I do, nothing. So it's whatever I really just don't care anymore, but I'm not going to let you guys just remove stuff because you "think" that its not right, free, or for w.e reason there may be, have a nice day lolz AJona1992 (talk) 21:10, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Exactly don't respond because I'm right and your wrong AJona1992 (talk) 15:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Why reply to someone who's stubborn? There's no reasoning or compromise with you, it's all or nothing. I've already explained several policies and guidelines every user and article need to abide by, but as long as other articles violate them, you feel the need to violate them across the board. — ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  16:54, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Your stubborn, I'm doing what I "believe" is right, like how you "believe" everything I do is WRONG WRONG WRONG, why can't you "try" to bully other people, clearly you failed with me. AJona1992 (talk) 21:06, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * What you believe is right is clearly wrong, and I've explained why it is wrong by linking relevant policies and guidelines. For example, I explained above that pages are categorized in the most specific categories there are, yet you went on to re-add several just today . All you've done is reply with an attitude, make false claims of bullying and calling me a "hater". You're ignoring everything that's being done to steer you into the right direction and creating more problems with more users throughout the site. Unless you plan to admit you're wrong and to abide by policies and guidelines, you're just heading for an indefinite block for disruptive editing. —  ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  21:27, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Because you guys constantly "make up" rules like crosswiki, asking for translations, creating stubs, free images, not allowed to say "ignorant" and "stubborn" and more, why am I being in trouble when you guys do the same thing to me? But I am willing to try to work by the rules.


 * Please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and WP:POINT. I have restored the external links to Michael Jackson. Please discuss on the Talk page which links you think should go, and with reasons. But links to Commons are always relevant. Rodhull  andemu  16:01, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't tell me, tell that ignorant dude who keeps on "creating" rules. AJona1992 (talk) 21:06, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Please try also WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA, or your editing days here may well be over quite shortly. Rodhull  andemu  21:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * That's not fair, people tell me, HERE, that I am stubborn and ignorant but I can't say these back? wow thanks for telling me who's boss around here.AJona1992 (talk) 02:01, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Images
Please stop uploading images and claiming that you are the copyright holder. It is clear that you are getting the images from other web sites. Each time you are challenged on them your story gets more elaborate. You can operate within the rules here or you will be blocked. You're not fooling anyone. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 01:52, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow harsh I was trying to be nice to all of you guys but I see that I just need to ignore you guys, because all you guys are gonna do is "attack" me every time I upload a FREE Selena picture. IDC what you think I REALLY DON'T. I tried to be nice (look at your talk page, and the edits on Selena) and this is what I get, I just asked you so nicely about some polices and you want send me some anger issues comments wow, but when I do it all I get is a blocked warning. AJona1992 (talk) 02:01, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Stop the melodrama. This isn't a soap opera.  Lose your attitude, be civil, and you might do well here. If you continue to act like a child, you will be gone and your beloved Selena will be left to the dispassionate masses and you will be powerless to stop it.  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 02:17, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Why should I? I tried reasoning with you guys yet you keep ignoring me if I have to SCREAM, YELL, and do such just to get a photo then by all means, you guys keep ignoring me about my photos and that gets me upset, that's not being a CHILD, if you don't like my "talk backs" then don't mess with me, becuz I talk right BACK. Secondly I am not the ONLY Selena lover on this wiki so what are you trying to say here? oh wait your a MJ lover so you don't get it either. Yea I might be GONE but ohhhhh I ain't the ONLY fan here there will be edits edits edits and more edits by other fans, but oh yea I forgot you guys "think" she is NOTHING well here comes more of my fury, Selena is way more famous than what you guys "think", Selena fans out there, don't listen to this guy he just doesn't like Selena and so forth, he will attack you again AGAIN and AGAIN. Now tell me am I right or am I right? *Applauds* keep trying to bring me down, it's NEVER going to work dude. I will always keep uploading my wonderful family's personal photos and love for Selena and you can't tell me NO. LOLZ AJona1992 (talk) 13:56, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Interceding
Hey, I notice there's some fuss going on; let me try to help out. Okay? (Longer message to follow; this one is just to get your attention.) DS (talk) 14:40, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, let's see. First, we do appreciate your efforts to have the Selena article be as high-quality as possible. Uploading images to illustrate the articles is helpful. The problem is, you're not doing it right.
 * The thing is, Selena died when you were two and a half years old. (You put your date of birth on your userpage, remember?) So when you upload a picture of her and say "I (AJona1992) created this work entirely by myself"... at the very least, we'd need more details, because how could such a little kid take such a high-quality photograph?
 * The answer is -- as you've since mentioned -- that this was a photo owned by your family. This means that you did not create the work "entirely by yourself": scanning a photo doesn't count as "creating" it. We need to know who took it (your grandma? your mom?), and the circumstances under which it was taken (where? when?).
 * I understand that you don't want to be disrespected or bullied, but what you have to realize is that this is a legal thing. There's stuff that's allowed, stuff that's not allowed, and stuff that's in a gray area... and we try to stay out of the gray area as much as possible. Wikipedia has to cover its ass as much as possible, just in case.
 * It's true that we have a lot more free photos of people like J.Lo than of Selena, but that's because those people are alive during a time when lots of people have digital cameras and are willing to donate their photos to Wikipedia. Once someone dies, no new free pictures of them can be made.
 * I hope this helps; feel free to ask me if you've got any problems. I might not be immediately available, but I'll do what I can as soon as I can. DS (talk) 15:28, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you guys so much, I really needed this help! Please keep helping me out here I really do need it thanks! AJona1992 (talk) 16:22, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, good. Glad to hear it. Can you provide more details about those photos? DS (talk) 19:00, 28 July 2010 (UTC)|rev2Score = (7/10)
 * Ok both my grandmother and mother became Selena fans back in the early 1990s, my grandmother used to live in Corpus Christi, Texas and began attending her concerts and taking pictures. I can ask both my mom and grandmother when and where they were taken if you want! I was born in 1992 but in New Jersey, when Selena died both my grandmother and mother watched everything on the TV, magazines, newspapers, and radio stations around Jersey and I was always around my grandma and mother, and as I grew up they kept playing her songs while they clean, or on the radio, by this time we all moved to Orlando, Florida. And in 2002 they all gave me their collections (pictures, signatures, vhs tapes, etc). I didn't know nothing about wikipedia until I was in High School and seeing that the article was lacking information, not enough information, and just only one photo. At that time I didn't know how to edit, create, upload, etc., but I later learned. So now I keep uploading them but they keep getting deleted because these people believe that I don't own them because they see them everywhere which is true, there's Selena message boards every where, where fans, like me, share photos to everyone and for fan sites alike. So it's fair that they want to just delete it because they "think" it's not free, which got me pissed off. AJona1992 (talk) 19:12, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, good. The thing is, because we've had so many dumb people who think "oh, a picture is online, I don't know where it came from, I'll say it's public domain and upload it to Wikipedia!", we've had to go with the policy of assuming that a photo is not free unless someone can prove that it is. So what we'll need is "this photo of Selena performing at (the Nacogdoches Concert Hall or wherever), (May 1993 or whenever), was taken by the grandmother/mother of user:AJona1992; she agrees to release it under the terms of the CC-BY-SA 3.0 License". DS (talk) 12:34, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok I have all the photos, just which one you need? The one I uploaded as free (Selena live in 1994)? Ok and how do I do this? I sent the message to that place everyone's been asking me about 3-5 days ago. AJona1992 (talk) 15:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * We need all that information for each photo that's categorized as 'free'. If you can't provide that information -- who took it, where, when, and whether they release it under a Wikipedia-compatible license -- we have to assume it's not free. Although since it's impossible to have any new free pictures of Selena, we can use non-free photos as "fair use" as long as each non-free photo has an individual fair use rationale. DS (talk) 13:41, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry for taking long, the picture was taken in the San Antonio Texas Fair on June 11, 1994 in San Antonio, Texas. AJona1992 (talk) 17:31, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * For the Grammy Award picture, which was taken by my mother on March 1, 1994 in Radio City Music Hall, New York. My mom took four pictures of her during this time. And I think that's all I uploaded as "free". I have way more but until these photos can be placed I won't upload any more. Thanks AJona1992 (talk) 00:17, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, so add information to the photo: "Photo taken at the San Antonio, Texas Fair on June 11, 1994, by the mother of user:AJon1992, who agrees to release it under the terms of the CC-BY-SA 3.0 license and the GFDL" (and then the Grammy information the same way, etc). DS (talk) 20:05, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * If the pictures are already on commons, add the info to the pages on commons. If they're not on commons, add the info here. DS (talk) 23:38, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You should NOT say "Entirely my own work - I created it, own all the rights to it, and have not used anyone else's work in making it", because some are by your MOTHER and some are by your GRANDMOTHER, and if you say it's entirely your own work, that would be a lie. DS (talk) 01:30, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * For "permission", put, and then write to <permissions-commons@wikimedia.org> and explain the situation. DS (talk) 02:13, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

User sandbox
I have moved your sandbox to User:AJona1992/Sandbox, to your own userspace, so it's out of projectspace. --Patar knight - chat/contributions 14:50, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Jonathan, here's a link to the contents of your last version of the Selena article, in a sandbox I tried to create (I changed my mind. Don't recreate it, paste the contents into the old sandbox):. SamEV (talk) 07:56, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

P.S. I couldn't find your sandbox. You moved it around in such a way that what was supposedly your sandbox was actually your old talk page archive. I've just renamed the archive and place a link to it at the top of this page. SamEV (talk) 08:04, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

P.P.S I forgot to mention that the second sandbox also contains some changes of my own in the lead. SamEV (talk) 01:40, 31 July 2010 (UTC)


 * What's wrong with this stupid thing? I edit and ADDED MORE information to it and it's not there anymore. AJona1992 (talk) 19:18, 31 July 2010 (UTC)