User talk:AMbroodEY/Archive 2

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 * Archive 1, from 24th August 2005 to 9th March 2006 (43 messages)

Mahitgar 17:47, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Greetings
Holi greetings. --Bhadani 06:04, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Siddiqui
I feel for you, I really do, but I have no words of wisdom. The tools we have at our disposal for fighting POV-pushers are the RfC and the Arbcom, and the abuse has to go on for a long time and be really blatant before something happens. Sometimes, if others care, you can tag-team revert until the POV-pusher goes away -- but that requires other people and lot of time and energy, and it's not a NICE thing to do. I'm seeing a bunch of people whom I regard as ill-intentioned doing it to someone who does not deserve the treatment and boy, it looks ugly from the other side.

I'd help you but I'm swamped. I've taken on too much.

WP needs new tools to deal with problems like this ... Zora 08:15, 15 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I am studying the matter, and shall shortly come back with my views. Thanks for bringing the issue to my notice. --Bhadani 08:31, 16 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I have left comments. Thanks for raising the issue. Siddiqui, however has taken to responding on whole different page, here.--Nemonoman 17:04, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, thanks for taking the time to do this. I would also look at some other RFC's and RFAr to see if they are being done in the correct way. You may also look here where I searched some diff's. --doN&#39;t belieVe in CensOrshIp 19:47, 16 March 2006 (UTC)


 * cheers for sorting out the RfC. I'm really strufgling to keep my head in there3 though. he truly fucjing winds me up! Veej 00:03, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Hawkraj
Do you know who this Jackass is?Gorkhali 15:34, 15 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Talking of that species -- take my advise, don't feed the matter. I concur with you, and I now have grave doubts about the veracity of the maratha clans page, but we have nobody of lucid intellect to reason with. His interests are confined to that page, which is anyway dubious, so let us humour him on that and limit him there. Nobody invited him to create an account, but he has, and I prefer not to have the nitwit abusing me at every turn -- I already have my full share of such pains. Do not interpret any message of mine as being endorsement of him or his comments -- how likely is that, I ask you? Please help limit the damage. ImpuMozhi 03:53, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

RfC
I agree it is not personal. This temporary misunderstanding is due to India and Pakistan version of events and history that has been taught and ingrained in their respective citizens due to 59 years of conflict. I was not aware of the deep resentment that has was created due to my edits. South Asia/Indian subcontinent issue can be resolved. Don't worry be happy. RfC is acually proving to be a good thing since it has given oppurtunity to everybody to discuss the issues. I think informing both parties in a RfC should be part of Wikipedia process. When somebody files a RfC against another user then it should be Wikipedia that should inform the accused person and give him/her the instructions how to proceed and where and how to present his/her pint of view. You did the right thing by inviting all the people that had conflict with me and now they have presented their point of view and listened to mine and hopefully all the bottled up resentments will calm down. Siddiqui 14:44, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Rajput
Dude,

Yes I am related, a lot of Indians don't realise that Rajputs is not a race but a caste. I am related to the Scindias as well as the other Peshwas, since they gave their daughters to my family and we gave our daughters to them, now everyone is a cousin.

I feel really frustrated about the Rajput article and am thinking of giving up on it all together. Shivraj may have not known how to write an encyclopedic article but he knew his history. And all this crap about the necessity of mentioning that there are Muslim Rajputs is quite ridiculous since every muslim on the subcontinent was once a Hindu.

Gorkhali 16:28, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Siddiqui
I think what you said about "acting as if other people didn't exist" is the key. I'm not sure that other people are real to S. I just had a look at his contributions and they're staggering. He seems to spend his whole life writing articles about Pakistan: places, people, etc. It's as if he had a gazeteer of Pakistan in front of him and he's trying to make an article about every proper noun in it. Obsession, tuning other people out ... read the article on Asperger's syndrome. I'm familiar with the subject because I might be a borderline "Aspie" myself. It's common among computer nerd types. So I say this from a certain position of sympathy for the bloke, not as a "he's just nuts" dismissal.

I realize, from looking at the list, that I have had an interaction with him -- over the articles Jamshid and Jamshed Town. He was exactly the same there as you describe him for the Indian history articles -- determined and uncommunicative. But we eventually worked something out, once we got his attention.

I'm coming round now to agreeing that perhaps a ban from some articles might be the best way to deal with the problem. Articles re the Ahmediyya, for sure. Some of the articles re Indian history IF you can demonstrate that there's someone else who's taking the Muslim perspective and will make sure that the articles don't turn into pure Muslim-bashing. Then just let the guy proceed with what he does best, making articles about every mountain peak in the Hindu Kush! Zora 18:23, 18 March 2006 (UTC)


 * AMbroodEY, I don't underestimate the sheer emotion roused by communal issues in South Asia. Ever since I read Vikram Seth's An Unsuitable Boy and got pulled into the world of filmi, I've been watching and reading depictions of communal violence and the Partition. My personal take on the issue is "A pox on both your houses". I have equal disdain for RSS thugs and jihadi killers. That said, I'm not sure that you're as free of POV as you think you are. Of course women and children were abducted and enslaved. But it is also true that many conversions to Islam were made by Sufi pirs, and that many low-caste Hindus converted to a religion that didn't stigmatize them (as much -- still distinctions between the ashraf and the common people). I think you have to distinguish between the violent advent of Islam and the subsequent centuries, during which people settled down to a live-and-let-live arrangement. I don't approve of idealizing the Muslim raiders -- they were much more motivated by loot than religious zeal, IMHO -- but they aren't the whole story. On the one hand, Mahmud of Ghazni ... on the other, Kabir. Or perhaps to pick a modern example, one that I find moving -- the scene in Lagaan where the villagers gather in front of the Hindu temple and pray for victory. The hero is played by a Muslim (Aamir) and the music was written by a Muslim (A.R. Rahman). If you just listen to the lyrics, and don't pay any attention to the picturisation, the song could just as well be a Sufi song.


 * When you get angry at Muslims, think of that song. (Goes for me too -- after all, I'm a kill-on-sight American to some jihadis.) Zora 08:02, 19 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry for eavesdropping. Just wanted to add that the lyrics were written by Javed Akhtar. deeptrivia (talk) 17:32, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Reorganization of RfC
I think it would have been preferable to inform me also of your reorganization of that page. My answers to the allegations have been moved. May be it was not organized according to Wikipedia standard from the begining but we could kept the same existing format until this RfC would have reached a conclusion. Then you could have changed to Wikipedia standard. Siddiqui 23:40, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Siddiqui
Actually, I have not read the RfC. I went to it, commented on how disorganized it was on the talk page, and refused to try and figure it out. Much of the comments were not signed and randomly inserted. Though I have a feeling on what the issue is, having personally dealt with him in the past. Pepsidrinka 02:59, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Fundy Watch
I removed the POV part of the introductory paragraph, so that more users will join. Also best of luck in your GSCE!  G i zza Chat  &#169; 06:53, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Hinduism in Pakistan vandalism
I reverted vandalism in Hinduism in Pakistan page to previous version. I did not make any changes. Siddiqui 16:49, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Crappy stuff
I'm already watching most of the Maratha-related articles, Amey. Actually I am not reverting those additions at sight because you are largely doing it!! I am worried in particular about Maratha clan system, because if the info is actually provided by that person, it may be pure fabrication. But he is essentially harmless and will probably go away soon. Engaging with him may actually prolong his stay. Take care, ImpuMozhi 13:50, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Siddqui
I got totally confused with the Rfc/frc whatever. Let me know what to do exactly. Good to see Impumozhi back in action. Gorkhali 14:28, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

DaGizza's RfA


Hi, thank you for supporting me in my RfA which passed with a tally of (93/1/2). If you need any help or wish discuss something with me, you are always welcome to talk to me. GizzaChat  &#169; 12:09, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

IRC for India: #wikipedia-in
Please join this channel for India-related discussions. In case you need help to access IRC, please visit my IndianIRC page. -- Andy123  (talk) 22:15, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

RfC
Hi! What was the outcome of the RfC? Has something been done to prevent the vandalism-like actions?--Dwaipayanc 09:30, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Wanna chat with u........
Hi there, I find you vry intrestin... I just found da web site n so u I dont know if we can ever meet but try to keep in touch I find we have da same tastes! Good Bye, SEe you later........

Welcome to WikiProject Novels
Hi thank you for joining the WikiProject. There is still plenty of scope for influencing things and making your contribution count. We are about establishing standards for Novel based articles and writing articles that meet our own and others high standards, and to improve Wikipedia's diet of articles on Fiction books, otherwise called Novels. Would you also place our userbox on you userpage. If you have any questions, do ask. Please be very welcome. :: Kevinalewis  :  (Talk Page) / (Desk)  15:49, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Viv Richards
I thought it was a convention to use the most conventional name, thus Steve Waugh not Stephen Waugh, or Richard Ponting? Regards, Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 04:54, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Freddie Mercury
DeBroodey, you said you had Freddie's definitive biography. Is he labeled there as Persian or Indian Parsi? Because all the Officail internet biographies call him Persian (as in Iranian), with the exception of a few that have decided to stick to the truth. I would like to know. The more I read that he is Persian in these official sources, the more I begin to believe it for some reason. -User: Afghan Historian


 * by odd coincidence, i've been doing a lot of research on freddy mercury in the last few days. i've been under the impression that he was indian. from what i've read, his parents were parsis, which from what i've heard are mainly indians. from what i hear, parsis are a type of zoroastrians. Gringo300 00:42, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Multiple Personalities
I assure you those are not mine. I'be perhaps only begun to see how signing comments without sigining in is a bad idea. I do have people at my college who like to piss me off by using my identity on wikipedia just now. I will sign in from now on. Thank you. But once again, I'm no flake or schitzo. These reverts are not mine! I hope you will understand. - Afghan Historian 15:53, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Re:Re:Half Moon Investigations
Thanks for clearing that up. I was confused. :P --Thrashmeister 01:43, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Hinduism-related Collaboration of the week
I'm trying to setup Hinduism-related Collaboration of the week. Any help would be appreciated. I'm using Notice board for India-related topics/INCOTW as a template for creating the collaboration. --Dangerous-Boy 00:03, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

judeo-marathi
i'll have to admit that i'm not exactly an expert on indian (as in india) languages in general. i'll have to look through piles of notes to find the references for the judeo-marathi article, but i'll try to find them, but it might take a while.

i've done more research on the sanskrit language than the marathi language, but i can't honestly claim to be an expert on sanskrit, either.

i've done a lot more research on indian languages, in the sense of the indigenous languages of the western hemisphere, than on indian languages, in the sense of languages of india, but yet again, i can't claim to be an expert on those either. Gringo300 00:37, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Naming and transliteration to Naming conventions (Vedic)
Trying to a get a concensus on this. Your input is appreciated. I'm trying to move the naming and transliteration formating to Naming conventions (Vedic).--Dangerous-Boy 08:17, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Good work,
I'm not sure if you're talk page is up to date, but if you're still 16 and making some of the edits and dealing with some of the arguements the way you have on various articles- you've been doing a great job ;P 82.12.223.218 22:37, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Hinduism-related topics notice board
it's up and running. check it out.--Dangerous-Boy 18:55, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

HELP
HELP on the Status of religious freedom in India article...it needs major work.WoodElf 15:49, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

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Novels WikiProject Newsletter June 2006
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Novels WikiProject Newsletter July 2006
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Novels WikiProject Newsletter August 2006
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The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue IV (September 2006)
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Hey
Come back to wiki, times have gotten better for Hindu users. Bakaman Bakatalk 01:12, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:AMbroodEY/Fundy Watch
Here you go, this is why it was deleted. It ignited a series of edit-wars and arguments between the pro-Hindus and the anti-caste/Muslim/Christian Indians in Wikipedia. It hasn't been pretty. User:Blnguyen has acted as a mediator and has done superbly. Good luck on your exams, I should be studying at the moment! If you need any more info, ask me again or email me. GizzaChat  &#169; 07:35, 12 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I tried. Sorry bhai.Bakaman Bakatalk 23:59, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Marathi
Thanks!!Unfortunately our most time is spent combating with these Kannadi vandalists!!But I am taking it lightly as Belgaon article is locked.Currently I am working on Marathi article.

Btw u embarrassed me by giving word to word translation of my talks with Arya!I hope our dear admin wont bash me for that ;).Seriously those so called Kannadi editors cum vandalisers are going on my nerves.They wisely choose their sources which will help them to market Kannada and Karnataka.If u have any knowledge of Rashtrakuta plz do check if that article is fine.mahawiki 14:43, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for ur reply.I actually liked Sawai Raja's posts as it is a experience we all Maharashtrians undergo.U may call it nihilism,perhaps we are a bit jingoist here but blame it to present socio-political-economical conditions.We are not like this by birth,our fellow Indians have made us this way. Thanks for ur concern about anti-Bramhinism stuff,but believe its hardly in the minds of common Marathas.I have talked about it with my Maratha friends openly and they surely are not that red with anger as this Sambhaji Brigade comrades.Morever,it hardly matters if anyone taunts Bramhins as I dont consider myself as a Bramhin,I consider myself a Maharashtrian first.

Compromises are the biggest mistakes,we have done,according to my opinion.Had we reacted sharply like this Kannadis or Northis,we wouldnt have taken for a ride in the name of National integration.If India and our 'Indian brothers' ahve no love or respect for us,I dont think I should 'compromise' and let my language die.Frankly speaking 'Indian first' is an illusion in Indian.No one here is Indian first.And going thru many bitter and inflammatory experiences in my life(im just 21 and so much oppression!)I dont think I shall be Indian first.Sadly I cant relate and feel secure by considering myself one.But,I hope in spite of that,we shall bond to improve Marathi/Maharashtra related articles. mahawiki 18:52, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah!But our unrest is not on this issue.As I mentioned earlier it has complex socio-political-economical reasons!Consider this-When I leave go on the streets of Mumbai,capital of my state Maharashtra,I cant speak in my mother-tongue and official language of my state,Marathi.We are dominated in ALL ways by these outsiders.We are reduced to mere 25% in our state-capital.I hate these outsiders from the depth of my heart.mahawiki 19:15, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

U said it!Maharashtrians should get economic power.I guess ur not that ignorant about conditions here. About my hatred,see this moron User:Sarvagnya unneccessarily badmouthing me everywhere to impress admin and issuing nonsense warnings for no reasons.BTW isnt calling names permitted on talk pages!

Hey,I have one more querry.Suppose I photograph a copyrighted image,is that thing allowed on wikipedia?Note that the images I have uploaded until now arent copyrighted.I mean,if such tricks are valid,I can upload many images!mahawiki 19:38, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi there
Hi AMbroodey, good to know that you are half-Marathi. Well, I am not badmouthing Kannadi people just like that, it's because they instigated me. See the talk page of Belgaon and you will know.

As far as Sawai Raja's commment is concerned, I agree with everything he said except the one comment about Marathi Brahmins. I don't like casteist uotfits like Sambhaji Brigade although I am a Maratha. Marathi Brahmins have been extremely good to me in personal life as well. We often dine together. In fact, anyone who is Marathi, I consider them my brothers. So caste & religion doesn't come in between. We Maharashtrians are an ethno-linguistic group. So there must be no internal conflict.

As far as anti-Marathi prejudice is concerned, you are not aware of it as you stay in UK. But here in India, it is one of the worst prejudices faced by any community in this region. I think even Muslims and North-Easterners are not prejudiced this much. Sikhs, Bengalis and South Indians are stereotyped but never discriminated against. Maharshtrians are not just stereotyped, they are "looked down" upon. Just check out any Mumbai English language newspaper, you will find anti-Marathi bias alarmingly regular. As it is, many non-Marathi owned colleges in Mumbai, were set-up after Maharashtra Government gave them land on discounted & subsidized prices. But these colleges rarely admit Maharashtrian students as they have quotas for their own people. And this is a fact. The state of Maharashtrians in Mumbai and Belgaon is very bad. As mahawiki said, in Mumbai, we have to speak in Hindi. Only the other day, there was a dispute between two people and I saw one of them seaking Marathi and the other guy was repeatedly telling him to speak in Hindi, kyun ke yeh Mumbai hai, yeha Marathi nahi chalta ! Another day, I was travelling in a Taxi and the cab-driver, a Bihari, not aware that I am a Maharashtrian, was ranting against Maharashtrians, for seemingly no reason ata all. I gave him a good one on what Mumbai is and whose is it. So, it is not a hear&say, but we have experienced it. I can give you umpteen examples of anti-Marathi bias, but then the comment would become ten times bigger than even Sawai Raja's comment.

Anyway, thanks for your concern. Bye and take care.

--Arya Rajya Maharashtra 05:49, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue V - October 2006
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Invitation for WikiProject Maharashtra
Hi there,

A new project has been created, to exclusively deal with Maharashtra and Marathi-related articles. You are invited to join the WikiProject Maharashtra. The project aims to develop Marathi and Maharashtra-related articles to Featured Article-status. You can join the WikiProject by adding your username here. However, don't forget to visit the project page. This is of course, a sister project of Portal:Maharashtra. Come, join us in developing Wikipedia. Thanks,

-- N R S | T/M\B 10:02, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter: Issue VI - November 2006
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Hi
We have not corresponded before, but I appreciate your words in my Arbcomm. I have noticed your edits on wikipedia articles before and was impressed by many of them. I was wondering if you would resume your contributions or whether you wish to continue your wikibreak. Oh, and by the way, I'm not actually Bene Israel (though your statements concerning them were correct). I am, in fact, a Baghdadi Jew by matrilineage, though my dad comes from a fairly long line of Maharashtrian Mumbaikars. My mom's family was originally from the middle east (Baghdad, hence Baghdadi) who emigrated to India about a century and a half ago (not unlike the famous David Sassoon), fleeing anti-semitism in the middle east.Thus, my mom was born in Mumbai only, making me essentially a full Maharashtrian/Indian + a Jew. Needless to say, I am not a happy person (jes' kiddin' :) ) .Hkelkar


 * Well done on your comments. I especially liked your blog entry. Something has to be done about this. Hindutva is mentioned with a negative undertone all over Wikipedia. If you go to a page and say you are a Hindutvavadi you lose your credibility. This is NOT how things should be. To be Hindutva is not to be Hindu fundamentalist. Hindutva is simply based on pride in the Hindu Dharma, now is that a crime?  Noble eagle  [TALK] [C] 04:09, 13 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey don't think about leaving Wiki. Wikipedia is one of the most comprehensive sources of information on the internet and is used by so many people. It is up to people like you to make sure it is evenly presented and not Anti-Hindu, otherwise forget TerryJ-Ho, the world will hate Hindutva.  Noble eagle  [TALK] [C] 06:17, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Are u back?
It's time to get back to editting! It's like a propaganda war around here now a days.--D-Boy 18:17, 25 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, you should stop by and say what's up more often. It's like a propaganda war on wikipedia now a days.--D-Boy 18:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Kherlanji Massacre

 * Please put the article in your watchlist, also take a look at the contribs of whose been trying to add it to Indian Buddhist revival using extremely offensive language  Hkelkar 18:35, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Manual of Style (Indic-related articles)
I'd really like to redo this. Just haven't found the motivation or the energy. The whole debated has given me a spark though.--D-Boy 20:31, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Village_pump_%28policy%29
We're voting now on the scripts.--D-Boy 01:20, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

O_O!
Category talk:Pakistani Wikipedians--D-Boy 06:48, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you, I am glad that you appreciate my work. Cheers my friend.__ Seadog ♪ 23:18, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Move of Partition of India
Hi! Yes I realized that something went very wrong! So I asked an admin to perform the move. He performed the move and dropped me a note. So it is solved. Thanks. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:06, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Good Luck
Hi How were your A levels MerryJ-Ho 10:44, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, you will pass in flying colours.Not many people write encyclopedia before their A levels...Cheers.Basingstoke should better have been Boringstoke, though..I find life better in our own Isleworth..MerryJ-Ho 17:54, 4 December 2006 (UTC)