User talk:APACHE N4SIR

Hi. Replying to a message on a talk page is really easy (if you know how of course) all you have to do is click the edit button (either the one at the top of the page, or the one in-line with the conversation)

"Yes I know what British Standard Time is... but seeing that the information stated May 10th 2010 I only assumed (sorry) that information was provided that i lived on the west coast of North America (which I don't)."

Ahh, you see, this proves my point (and I thought it might, which is why I asked). BST is actually British Summer Time, i.e. Daylight Saving Time. In the winter we use GMT (which would be the equivalent to "British Standard Time" if it existed). The point being is something is presented in BST, many people, like you, would assume it was "British Standard Time", so GMT but it's actually GMT+1 (or UTC+1, however you want to right it. UTC+1 is the international standard).

"I stated (and always have) I got removed on May 11th at 158am Eastern Standard Time (North America) but if you prefer seeing that this is a entry in England then should I state I was removed May 11th at 6:58am GMT (Zulu) (-/+ 0hr.)"

Yeah, on Wikipedia times tend to be presented in UTC ± X format and/or with a specific regional time and time zone. In this case it would be put something like May 11, 2010 at 06:58 UTC (01:58 EST)

"Still don't quite understand this "and remember to sign your posts by typing four tildes (APACHE N4SIR (talk) 9:04 pm, Today (UTC+1))." "

* chuckles*

On wikipedia, when you type four tiles (a tiles is a ~) like this: ~ ; the Wikipedia software replaces it with your username, a link to your talk page and a timestamp. What you appear to have tried to do is ~ APACHE N4SIR ~, but since that made sigAPACHE N4SIRsig, i.e. APACHE N4SIR (talk) 9:04 pm, Today (UTC+1)APACHE N4SIRAPACHE N4SIR (talk) 9:04 pm, Today (UTC+1).

Every time you type ~ it puts that in (with the current time). In case you're wondering I managed to type them without it making my sis by putting special "nowiki" tags around it ( content  ...incidentally I had to put nowiki tags around those nowiki tags to make them show up :P). If you click the edit button you should see what I mean.

Anyway, while the press release would be useful, I think what you have provided is enough to make the change. If/when you get the press release I'll use that, but for now the MTV page is enough.

Later,  Alphathon TM ( talk ) 21:03, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

By the way, I assume you mean EDT not EST right? EST is Eastern Standard Time, i.e. without Daylight Saving i.e. Winter Time. Yes?  Alphathon TM ( talk ) 21:37, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I now see the 'EDIT' button bit now what? lol will this even work? i'm so lost. hehehe


 * I will contact you if and when I get that press release as requested. In regards to the edit, do you need me to submit anything or do you have the just of the info?


 * In regards to EST/EDT... yeah EDT, I get them confused and I live here. but that being said I've learned about UTC... always thought about GMT when in England.


 * lets see if this works... APACHE N4SIR (talk) 17:23, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Looks like it's worked to me :)


 * Anyway, I've already made the change based on what you've already given me. The press release would be very useful though, since it would be a far more reliable reference than what we already have (less likely to be removed on reliability grounds).


 * A couple of other things. It is customary to reply to posts after them, so just scroll down to the end of the post before typing. also, if you indent your posts 1 more time than what you're replying to, it is easier to read. This can be done by using colons . I have moved your post for you to show you what I mean.


 * "I've learned about UTC... always thought about GMT when in England."


 * That's fair enough. GMT and UTC are the same time zone. GMT is what the UK time is called, UTC is what every time zone is based on. When talking about UK time, GMT and UTC are interchangeable.


 * One more thing: the UK ≠ England. England is one of the four constituent countries of the UK, the other three being Scotland (where I'm from), Wales and Northern Ireland. Constituent countries are roughly the same as states in the US (the legal system doesn't work the same, but it's the closest analogy there is). I certainly don't blame you though - the American media have the annoying habit of using them interchangeably. To make things more confusing, Britain ≠ the UK either (Britain, or Great Britain to be more accurate, is Scotland, England and Wales).


 * Anyway, I eagerly await the press release,
 *  Alphathon TM ( talk ) 17:49, 23 July 2010 (UTC)