User talk:AP EN 4005

If you have any questions or comments relating to this assignment, please post them here. Thanks!

Does anyone have any ideas for what to write about? At all? edit: Apparently "Ethics of animal research" is not a page and is a requested article... there are other pages with similar content but they want one specifically about this? So I'm claiming it pending thinking of something better... --Ghost-signals (talk) 02:55, 17 February 2013 (UTC) Upon further examination of the articles Wikipedia already has on animal testing, it looks like this topic is already covered in detail. Back to the drawing board. --Ghost-signals (talk) 22:39, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

I would recommend narrowing your focus considerably. This is advice for everyone. Is there a more specific aspect to animal testing or the ethics of animal testing that interests you? Or a key figure in the debate, or a work of a key figure? -Lee

I've decided to start an article for the pesticide chemical Bentazon (it's on the list of requested articles). Would government publications count as scholarly articles? - Mila G — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guimil (talk • contribs) 19:47, 1 March 2013 (UTC) Another question: How do we comment on other people's articles + talk pages if we don't know what their usernames are? How can we find their submissions? - Mila G — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guimil (talk • contribs) 20:03, 1 March 2013 (UTC) Mila - if you end your comment with four tildes (~) in a row, it will automatically insert the time, date, and your username. Other than that and direct linking, I'm not sure how we could all find each other. Perhaps Lee could set up the names in the table of subjects to link to each person's user page? --Ghost-signals (talk) 20:16, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Ok I'm going to add my username to the student selection table =) Thanks ! Guimil (talk) 20:41, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes, government documents are considered scholarly. I think it's a good idea to add your username to the selection table... Also, once your page goes live, update the table to a hyperlink. Thanks :) --Lee and PS I'm loving these tildes --> AP EN 4005 (talk) 21:55, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Since the articles will apparently take 'weeks' to be reviewed and officially published should we create links to our sandboxes in order to view each other's articles? Shanynem (talk) 02:37, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Check out this YouTube video on how to post your article (it would only need to be reviewed if you don't have a User account). You can skip ahead to about 3:00--it's explained in "Step 7". AP EN 4005 (talk) 03:48, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Also, if you're adding a section to an article that already exists, just cut & paste from your sandbox to the appropriate location in the article. Make sure the "Contents" box of the page looks right. AP EN 4005 (talk) 03:53, 2 March 2013 (UTC) I submitted my article, but it's in the "talk"/articles awaiting review section for now. I put the link to there in my section of the selections table. As Shanyne said, it apparently will take weeks for it to rise through the backlog. Neree and Jaime seem to have posted their articles already - how did you guys do that? Is there some other process to go through? Also, Lee - what youtube video? You said "check out this video" but you didn't provide a link. --Ghost-signals (talk) 17:19, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, the YouTube video is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CwiZIsaM7s You post your article by searching for its title--at the top of the search results page will be a red link to it... click on the red link to create the page. AP EN 4005 (talk) 17:49, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

My article on Bentazon is up! Good night!Guimil (talk) 04:16, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

A note to the instructor of this course
In the course of my normal new page patrol activities, I have come across several articles written by your students. Some are marginally useful, but others I have had to nominate for deletion for various reasons. As an instructor leading a university project to use and update Wikipedia, you should familiarize yourself with all of the relevant guidelines regarding article creation. Further, you should encourage your students to create their articles in their own sandbox so that you can evaluate their work prior to it being published live. Regardless of the goals of your class project, all material published on Wikipedia must conform to guidelines. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:20, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * PS: I note that your instructions to your students do encourage the use of a sandbox. I would suggest that this become more of a requirement than a suggestion, and that you as the instructor review their work prior to going live.  This will serve the extra purpose of avoiding having your students' work deleted before you have a chance to review it.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:23, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Resources
Hi! To the instructor: you can get help with your Wikipedia assignment from experienced editors on this page; I strongly encourage you to list your class there too, so we can have an idea about assignments that are happening on Wikipedia. There's also quite a bit of information on this page.

To the students: In general, you may have a tough time of it if you try to write an entirely new article; lots of things are already covered, it's often hard to find an appropriate topic, and it can be hard to master all the parts of Wikipedia style right away. Write in your sandbox first! However, there are lots and lots and lots of crappy articles that need sections rewritten, references added, and other improvements made... do consider breaking the project up into smaller research and writing pieces. You can find other articles on a similar topic by using the category system, following the links at the bottom of the page; for instance, see Category:Animal_rights or Category:Animal testing for tons of articles, most of which need work!

To everyone: please let me know if you have any questions or if I can help! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 07:34, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Recent AfC submission
In the course of reviewing AfC submissions, I came across User:Aarmor212/sandbox. I can tell the student put a lot of work into this submission, but in its present state it is not suitable for inclusion as a Wikipedia article mostly because it reads like an essay (instead of an encyclopedia article), making and coming to conclusions that are not borne out by its references. I have tidied up the draft and to bring it into Wikipedia guidelines have re-named it to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/19th Century Arguments for Anti-Vivisection and The Island of Dr. Moreau (If this title is not suitable, it can be changed.) but I am going to have to decline this draft in its present state. Wikipedia is a place to find material that has been previously published in reliable sources, not a place for original thought, so if the writer can find multiple, independent reliable sources that come to a conclusion connecting the Island of Dr. Moreau to Victorian Anti-Vivisection Attitudes that information and its published sources can be added. It might be helpful if you would perhaps take a look at the following pages or contact the following Education Program Ambassadors: Hope this helps, Shearonink (talk) 20:17, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Canada Education Program
 * Canada Education Program/Campus_Ambassadors
 * Online Educational Ambassadors
 * #wikipedia-en-classroom IRC This is a link to the IRC Channel for online ambassadors, maybe they can help you.

Articles for deletion/Slave Iron Bit
Please note that one of your student articles is considered for deletion. As a fellow educator teaching with Wikipedia, I strongly encourage you do to the Training/For educators. Cheers, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:59, 26 March 2013 (UTC)