User talk:ARoseWolf

Discussion on Lily Gladstone
Hey, just wanted to have a quick aside over here, as I really respect you as an editor. Your most recent comment over at Talk:Lily_Gladstone read as a bit accusatory, like I had an ulterior motive. I don't know if that was your intent, and I don't want to read into something, as I know tone is difficult to interpret over text. However, Don't try to come up with ways to circumvent consensus and Even the way you added the wiki-links in your response says a lot. were particularly misguided in my opinion and frankly were a bit hurtful. Saying you are AGF isn't enough, you actually have to do it, and I feel like those comments missed the mark. My intentions are purely navigational/clarifying, as I have stated in my arguments. I hope this comes off in the tone of trying to build bridges that it is intended, though I understand that I'm coming onto your page and complaining about something you did, so I appreciate you even taking the time to read this. Happy editing, and I hope to see more of your great work around!  Cerebral726 (talk) 14:18, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * , I'm supposed to be on Winter break but am coming back to respond specifically to you so I hope you understand that it is very important to me that you understand that my position is always one of not just assuming good faith on the part of others but a belief you are acting in good faith. However, our positions on this are very far apart and I don't see how we could agree. I do believe linking the terms does confer special treatment that we do not confer in other instances on Wikipedia with good reason. I don't believe it encourages anything except giving the Socks that have hounded discussions and filled consensus building processes a consolation for not getting their way. Worse still you mentioned so in your comment, "Especially since the word "Native American" is not used in the sentence (though not exclusively for that reason)". This emboldens those that would continue to disrupt but I absolutely do not think you made the comment in bad faith.
 * I readily admit that misunderstandings occur and I may have seemed harsh in my responses. My intention was not to be hurtful to you. The exact opposite. I value you and your contribution to the discussions we have both been part of. I do think your main intention was to bring emphasis to her heritage and that's a good faith action on your part. However, I continue and will continue to believe it should not be the case though. My main reason is that Wikipedia is to be neutral toward all our subjects of articles found here. I find, as is the case here, some are not neutral when we overlink things for the sake of emphasis, whether intended to educate or for some other reason. If we do not focus on the heritage of all subjects, we should not for any. That is the very definition of neutrality. Blue links can be a way for Wikipedia to tell our readers that this is a focal point of the article and when we link something more than once we are saying, in Wiki-voice, to our readers the importance Wikipedia places on the subject of those links. I may not be able to respond if you reply but if you feel you want or need to reply I will read and answer when I am able to. We can disagree on the particulars of this point but make no mistake, I value your views and thank you for every contribution you make. -- A Rose Wolf  13:19, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

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In case you haven't logged off for the season ...
... I thought this kitty could keep an eye on things for you. Also, the bicycle reminds me of springtime activities and you being back from winter escapades. Hugs. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:37, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

February music
Today I am happy about a singer on the Main page (at least for the first hours), after TFA the same day last year. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:41, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks to Seiji Ozawa. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:30, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

... and today a woman and her views --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:49, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

... and on your birthday on Valentine's Day an invitation to a theatre (where they first played Elegy for Young Lovers), and a pic of abundance: best wishes! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

The (upper) image, taken on a cemetery last year after the funeral of a distant but dear family member, commemorates today, with thanks for their achievements, four subjects mentioned on the Main page and Vami_IV, a friend here. Listen to music by Tchaikovsky (an article where one of the four is pictured), sung by today's subject (whose performance on stage I enjoyed two days ago). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:33, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Listen to music from Ukraine if you like, - I heard it in 2022, and the November concert (at a different church) raised a truckload of winter clothes. My story today is also from my life: I heard the singer in 3 of the 4 mentioned musical items. I sang in yesterday's. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:11, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Today's story celebrates a woman's birthday. She sat right in front of me when I took the picture at a lovely concert, celebrating her son's 60th. I thought she was 90 today, - no, 91 already. You can listen, starting at the piece he dedicated to her, Op. 1. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:41, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

more music and flowers on Rossini's rare birthday --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:01, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

TBYI
was indefinitely blocked, so probably safe to remove her from the COI template. Then User:Hiakkoba was blocked specifically from that page. Yuchitown (talk) 19:26, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Yuchitown


 * , I think we should leave it. An indefinite block is not permanent. It would be different if YaquiWoman was site banned. I didn't know about the other editor but even being blocked specifically from that article is not permanent. YaquiWoman could be unblocked and I'd rather have her attached to that article as a COI editor in case that happens or, the socks start showing up. -- A Rose Wolf  12:26, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I do agree with not adding Hiakkoba, since you pointed them out. That happened in '22 and we don't need to rehash old things. What's the likelihood they are the same person? -- A Rose Wolf  12:31, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I didn't know that an indefinite block is not permanent. I didn't create that article, but there've been multiple accounts seemingly from that organization who have protested it. Curious what specifically that they find to actually be factually incorrect? It seems like it's so easy to create another account anyway. Speaking of creating new accounts, the unblocked LATT socks did some newcomer tasks then faded away for the time being. Yuchitown (talk) 14:30, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Yuchitown
 * , they'll be back around again. We just need to stay vigilant. You are doing good work adding sources. I appreciate too. You always make thoughtful comments and your edits are unmatched. I have read most of the articles you've worked on about hot springs. Some of my favorite places here and in Montana are hot springs. We may not always agree on everything. But the core principals remain. I will not be here very much the next two weeks but I will get online when I have returned in between my traveling. -- A Rose  Wolf  18:44, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh gosh, thanks for the words of appreciation; I appreciate you both as well. Glad you are getting to some hot springs, ARW. The ones in Alaska must be amazing. I like working on these little articles alot, esp. when I get wiki-stressed, it's like taking a nice dip in warm water. Netherzone (talk) 19:08, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * , we do have some phenomenal locations here, hot springs included. Almost all of our creeks are glacial runoff. But it's still the only running water we have. We do have insulated tanks that contain an inner bladder for our drinking water but often use fresh water collected in catch basins. You just have to boil it first. I bathe in the creek that runs near our home. Things taken for granted by most people become a much larger task here but you get used to it. There are things we take for granted as well. -- A Rose Wolf  19:41, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red March 2024
--Lajmmoore (talk 20:24, 25 February 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Question from Essa es (01:27, 3 March 2024)
I have to success full life --Essa es (talk) 01:27, 3 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello and welcome to my talk page. Do you have a question you would like to ask about editing on Wikipedia. I'm here to mentor you during your journey and will answer any questions you may have specific to editing the encyclopedia or its many processes, procedures, and policies. Happy editing and welcome to Wikipedia!  -- A Rose  Wolf  13:50, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Education
Bold Essa es (talk) 01:31, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
 * , WP:BOLD is a Wikipedia editing guideline in which we are told to be bold, but I would caution, not carelessly. Editing is a privilege and anything seen as disruptive may be met with sanctions which remove that privilege. My take on it is "Be Bold, But Be Smart". Also, we all make mistakes but you have to be able to communicate and be attentive when others are offering advice or criticism. -- A Rose Wolf  14:11, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

March music
in memory of the birthday of a friend who showed me art such as this -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:45, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Rossini's Petite messe solennelle was premiered on 14 March 1864, - when I listen to the desolate Agnus Dei I think of Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:02, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Today, my story is a piece dear to my heart, still in memory. When I sang it first, a friend was in the audience with her husband who knew he was to die soon. She played a tape from the performance for his funeral. I probably told you before. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:20, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Vacation pics uploaded, at least the first day, - and Aribert Reimann remembered. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:32, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Next day, around Porto da Cruz, on Bach's birthday --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:50, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Some days later, a calf in the mist and chocolate cake, and a story of collaboration --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:04, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Billy Caldwell
I got your name from WikiProject Indigenous peoples of the Americas and you appear to still be active, Any interest in helping this draft along (or any watchers)? I found some sources which I added to a Further reading section but likely the creator does not have access to them (JSTOR). S0091 (talk) 20:33, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
 * , All the sources are about Billy Caldwell. I don't see any of the content in the draft verified in any of the sources. I looked through some archives and can't find a reference to another Billy Caldwell of the Potawatomi and no references to anyone specifically named Shawanasse. It likely is the phonetic understanding of Sauganash. -- A Rose Wolf  11:34, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
 * That's my fault. The draft was initially about Shaw-Waw-Nas-See with no mention of Caldwell.  I declined for insufficient in-depth sources but then started to do some digging and came across this which speculated Caldwell was Shaw-Waw-Nas-See.  I then started to look at Caldwell and thought there was another source that stated he also went by Shaw-Waw-Nas-See so I moved it the draft to Billy Caldwell but now looking again, I don't see another source so I misread something .  With that, I am going to undo all my changes and put it back to what it was initially.  Thanks for being another set of eyes. :)   S0091 (talk) 14:30, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
 * , always glad to help. Thank you for what you do as a reviewer. It's so easy to misread sources. I don't have the book mentioned so I do not know if the content accurately reflects to book or not but I cant find another source either. -- A Rose Wolf  11:18, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Buckethatandtincup (03:53, 22 March 2024)
Hello there I have never edited an article before however was spurred to try by an article(the article on the song tickle cove pond saying that the last name Oldford was incorrect) making a claim without any evidence that I could find as well as being curious about the process of editing and wanting to know how to request citations Apologies for the punctuation and have a pleasant day --Buckethatandtincup (talk) 03:53, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Greetings,, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for bringing your questions and thoughts to my user talk page. It appears that a template was added to the article (Tickle Cove Pond for page watchers) requesting verification as the article has almost no citations. On Wikipedia we are instructed to be bold so I encourage that when possible. There are some tips to editing I will leave on your user talk page. Generally, if you remain civil in discussions, humble and willing to learn/apply what you've learned you will be able to edit as long as you want to. If you need further clarification or guidance you can always ask here or on the Teahouse. Good luck and happy editing! -- A Rose Wolf  11:52, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Recent vandalism to your talk page
As you've been no doubt notified, there were changes to your talk page here that a now blocked account did. It doesn't matter what they posted. On the bright side; if there first edit was to vandalize your talk page here, it must mean you're doing something right. You ticked off someone by doing the right thing. Kudos to you :) --Hammersoft (talk) 01:01, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
 * +1. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:40, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
 * And again. Clearly the same person, but I can't link them with anyone else. Doug Weller  talk 11:26, 24 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you, , , and . I realize when you edit here long enough you do gather those with contrary opinions and some bitter feelings may arise but I also trust in the spirit of community we have here and always appeal to our better nature. You all exhibited that nature in this instance and many more I've seen along my journey here so far. To me that is worth any and every personal attack. Thank you. -- A Rose Wolf  12:14, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Sherbear72 on Category:American eugenicists (22:04, 28 March 2024)
Hello, how do I edit information? --Sherbear72 (talk) 22:04, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red April 2024
--Lajmmoore (talk 19:44, 30 March 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging

April music
I like to see Appalachian Spring on the Main page today (not by me, just interested and reviewed, and a bit proud that I brought the woman's pic to lead and Main page), and I also made it my story. - How do you like the statue (see places)? I was undecided so show three versions ;) -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:27, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Today I see Marian Anderson as my top story (by NBC, 1939), and below three people with raised arms, - and the place is the cherry blossom in Frauenstein --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:22, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

plum tree blossom for Kalevi Kiviniemi in the snow - see my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:23, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

relief: the last of six RD articles in one week is now on the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:14, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

followed by two birthdays in a row, and I prefer those (see my talk) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:54, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

today a sad task - memory of Andrew Davis - turned into entertainment (yt at the bottom of his article, actually both) -- the latest pictures capture extreme weather --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:50, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

today you can look at the last three stories or "music" on my talk: the same topics, Youth Symphony Orchestra of Ukraine, Samuel Kummer and (pictured) one row of 8 double basses and another of 5 bassists ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * , thank you. Just your message here refocused me. I don't want to make it about them but it's hard not to. I don't think it's very civil to accuse us of POV pushing like we are doing something wrong. What we are asking for is just the way you described, a neutral description of the facts. We have to use a little common sense in this. I can claim anything added to a BLP is negative and therefore if I am an admin I can force my views on others and claim it violates policy. That doesn't make it the case and the only way to form the opinion that self-identification is negative is if you start from a skewed POV, not a neutral one. I don't see it as negative to self-identify. No where do we doubt their claims of belonging to the organization nor do we discredit their claim of Native American heritage. It is these sockpuppets who are pushing the POV that self-identification = pretendian, not us. -- A Rose  Wolf  16:45, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I always think about how neurophysics articles require familiarity with neurophysics. You don't just blow in from other fields with no background in neurophysics and tell editors what's what. Yes, consistently people have tried to leap to conclusions that aren't there and put words in our mouths. The progress made in discourse about tribes has improved so much over the last decade, and more material is being published all the time about the grey areas. I've probably mentioned this but an area on Wikipedia where there's no tolerance for claims made are all the Alternative medicine-related articles, which are WP:Controversial and Contentious topics. I wonder if practices to be learned from those regions of Wikipedia. Yuchitown (talk) 17:07, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I definitely wouldn't go to neurophysics articles and start making statements emphatically. Because we don't know every detail about every editor we are forced to assume good faith but I will continue to call out those actions which appear egregious to me, like is the case here. I think Native American identity should be considered controversial and contentious. There should be a zero tolerance as is done with alternative medicine. It's a little more grayish when discussing Indigenous as a whole because every nation may have its different methods for determining what constitutes an Indigenous sovereign nation within their borders but for Native American and American Indian sovereign nations there has always been the need for the federal US government to recognize because it is with the US government that these nations signed treaties. It is not the government conferring status but one sovereign entity confirming with another sovereign entity whom they have a treaty with. I agree that the LATT need to petition the government and I wish them luck in building the case legitimately. All this talk goes away then but they, instead, flood Wikipedia with accounts decrying how unfair Wikipedia is for not recognizing them and calling editors detestable and nasty things. What I found absolutely unconscionable is an admin blowing through emphatically declaring for one side without adequately spending the time to read all the discussions and forming a broader viewpoint or having an open discussion. -- A Rose Wolf  17:26, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I see that I already gave you the civility barnstar, but I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate your calm, constant work trying to maintain quality and accuracy of the content on this encyclopedia. It's not always fun, so just wanted to let you know I appreciate your labor here! Yuchitown (talk) 14:14, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you,, I so tried to explain that the issue is not necessarily the content that was written but the source for the content but they were too dogged about having that content included at any cost. Better that Doug blocked them. I'd watch for the sock drawer to be reopened. -- A Rose Wolf  15:30, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Hank Rosenfeld (23:44, 11 April 2024)
Hi, I'd like to add to a site the tile of a book that discusses the topic. --Hank Rosenfeld (talk) 23:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello and welcome to my user talk page. I see you have already asked this question at the help desk which is an amazing place to start., a very experienced editor and a fellow Teahouse host answered your question with excellent advice to make an edit request on the article's talk page as you appear to have a conflict of interest in regards to the subject. I don't believe I can offer any better advice. If you want to know how to make a proper edit request you can follow this link and it will guide you through the process. If I can be of any further assistance please let me know. Remember to be a Rainbow in someone's sky today and happy editing! -- A Rose  Wolf  10:21, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Owenchileshe on Rainford Kalaba (17:30, 13 April 2024)
Hello, how can I hide the symbols after editing? --Owenchileshe (talk) 17:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Universo y Eternidad (23:55, 13 April 2024)
Buenas noches. Encantada. necesito una imagen de un cisne blanco en un lago azul. --Universo y Eternidad (talk) 23:55, 13 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @Universo y Eternidad: ¡Hola! Aquí es la Wikipedia en inglés. No hablamos español aquí. Si quieres escribir o modificar en español, por favor ir a Wikipedia en español (hace clic en el azul). Gracias.
 * Inglés/English (literal translation): Hello! Here is the English Wikipedia. We do not speak Spanish here. If you want to write or change in Spanish, please go to the Spanish Wikipedia (click in blue). Thank you. Rusty4321  talk contribs 00:27, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Adicionalmente, Wikipedia no es el lugar para imagenes. Los imagenes y fotos son en Wikimedia Commons. Puedes buscar allí.
 * Additionally, Wikipedia is not the place for images. The images and photos are in Wikimedia Commons. You can search there. Rusty4321  talk contribs 00:31, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from The1stWay on Conda (package manager) (14:25, 19 April 2024)
How to enable the Visual Editor? Recently it got disabled (the option greyed out) with no specific reason. --The1stWay (talk) 14:25, 19 April 2024 (UTC)


 * , Hello and welcome to my talk page. The visual editor is enabled by going to "Preferences" at the top right of the screen (Desktop) and selecting the "Editing" tab. The eighth box option under this selection say "Enable the visual editor". Make sure that is filled in and checked. That should enable the visual editor again. You may have to log out and back in again. -- A Rose Wolf  18:12, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Text box thing
How did you make that text box thing on your user page Maestrofin (talk) 01:56, 21 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @Maestrofin: It's made using an input box; see mw:Extension:InputBox for more information. Rusty4321  talk contribs 03:38, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Growth News, April 2024


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The Growth team conducted an experiment to assess the impact of the “Add an Image” structured task on the Newcomer Homepage's "Suggested Edits" module. This analysis finds that the Add an Image structured task leads to an increase in newcomer participation on the mobile web platform, particularly by making constructive (non-reverted) article edits:


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Caribou
I just noticed your comment about caribou. So we are both hunters of those delicious critters! When I lived in Greenland, many, many years ago, I shot 16 of them. I also wrote the article Reindeer hunting in Greenland. (From Greenland and eastwards, they're called reindeer.) I miss those days. -- Valjean (talk) ( PING me ) 20:28, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * If a caribou gets shot is that a caribou boo-boo? (Sorry!) --Tryptofish (talk) 23:31, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Why apologize, ? This made me giggle. Martin and you always make me laugh and laughter is like sunshine on my face, warm and inviting. I'll have to show my daughter when she wakes up. -- A Rose Wolf  12:15, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * We're in a very fortunate location because we have three herds that migrate through the area. They don't typically migrate en masse through our valley but we do get wandering splinters. Even so we don't have to travel far to find them. We usually use a bush plane to spot the herds. We keep track of their numbers and report locations to help better track the herds for conservation purposes. Caribou is a main source of meat, along with fish, Dall sheep and ptarmigan.
 * One thing important to me is honoring the spirit of the animal. We leave a gift after each harvest and ensure all of the animal is used for a purpose. It's our way of life.
 * That is a beautiful article, . Thank you for sharing and thank you for coming to my talk page. I simply love to hear of others experiences so if you ever want to share any of your experiences you are welcome to do so. Please consider yourself a friend and a guest in my little corner. -- A Rose Wolf  12:11, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Dear Rose, what a gracious reply. You inspire me to be a better person. I see from your user page that you have a rich and colorful background, with the Jewish/Hebrew and Cherokee heritages. How fortunate you are. I envy you living in Alaska. I hope we can make it there someday. We vacationed in Canada last summer (Banff, Jasper, Vancouver Island), and it was grand and beautiful.
 * I miss Greenland. It was the best time of our lives. The beauty, extreme weather, and dangerous storms which we miraculously survived (our boat was rugged in hurricanes), all left deep impressions in us so we never forget Greenland. We had a close group of friends who shared a diesel fishing boat that was slow but cheap to use, and we did a lot of fishing and hunting, as do the Inuits. Whether we were fishing cod or hunting reindeer and ptarmigan, we were surrounded by grand vistas of great beauty, with huge sea eagles sailing across the sky, sometimes pestered and attacked by smaller birds like snow buntings, falcons screaming down the sky as they dive-bombed, and beautiful and noble ravens following us and cleaning up after each kill, or cross-country skiing, we loved it all. Nature played a grand theater before us all the time. The reindeer were the most calm and quiet actors on that stage. They generally moved slowly as they grazed, making them hard to spot in the distance. They blended in with the bushes and granite boulders.
 * We had chest freezers filled with reindeer, ptarmigan, cod, Arctic char (trout), salmon, rockfish (we called them redfish), ducks, etc. I have never eaten so much meat (as a percentage of my diet) in my life. The climate there is like living next to an open freezer all the time. The inland ice stunts the growth of the trees so they are just bushes. It means the body's metabolism is kicked into higher gear and we simply burned up a lot of calories. When hunting we had good trail mix, jerky, and lots of unhealthy candy, but it got burned up too. We needed a high calorie diet with all that exertion of hunting in the mountains and valleys. It's hard work to backpack, canoe, hike in rugged terrain, stalk, and then carry a reindeer back to camp. I had a habit of eating a large Snickers bar after each kill. One day I ate four of them. That was a good day.
 * We loved the rugged and raw nature there. Some might think it was bare, bleak, and without much beauty. We didn't see it that way. Alaska has trees and forests, so that makes it quite different than Greenland, yet there are many similarities. I hope we win the jackpot someday and can visit, but I don't gamble or buy lottery tickets, so there isn't any chance of that. I'm retired, so our means are now limited. I'm happy I visited you here and wish you well. Let's keep in touch. I think I could benefit from your wisdom and advice, so please offer it when you see I need it. Feel free to email me. -- Valjean (talk) ( PING me ) 14:23, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * , your kind words are a melody to me. I do have a rich background though I'm very careful to state that it is my heritage. My ancestors are Cherokee and Ashkenazi Jews, some survived the Trail of Tears and the Holocaust, respectively. Some did not. I do not live the same life but I do honor theirs. The highest honor I can show them is acknowledging their existence, their lives, their songs, and be the best principled person I can be, true to my heritage.
 * Alaska works for me. I need lots of space to be the eccentric enigma that I am. Wikipedia sees only a fraction of that. Greenland is at a higher latitude than even we are here so I imagine it is so much colder there. We actually warm up into the 70's and even the 80's here in Summer but as low as -65 and -70 in Winter. We do have huge evergreen forests here. But if you ever get the chance I suggest visiting the sand dunes of Kobuk Valley. It is such an odd thing to find in a vast sea of evergreen's and tundra.
 * We live on a creek that empties into a glacial lake located in our valley. We have cabins dotted throughout the valley and into the surrounding mountains, a total of ten. We have to check on all them through the year to make sure brown bears haven't take up residence. We maintain the various Winter and Summer trails in the valley as that is the primary route for commerce and travel, other than air.
 * Banff is so beautiful. My parents used to take us on annual road trips from Haines, AK back to Montana. I actually did such a trip with my niece and daughter a few years ago before I was diagnosed with Leukemia. We would always stop for a few days of skiing in Banff. I did not ski on that trip but my niece and daughter did.
 * I look forward to our email conversations. I want to hear more about your experiences and would love to share some of mine. I'm not retired, I guess. Maintaining a homestead this vast is a huge chore. But I always find time for the finer details, something I never had the years we lived in towns. -- A Rose Wolf  16:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from SharmaJiKaChotaLadka (03:37, 25 April 2024)
How To create a Wikipedia article --SharmaJiKaChotaLadka (talk) 03:37, 25 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello and welcome to my user talk page. I left a welcome message on your talk page that should offer some useful links. If you have any questions after reviewing that information please do come back and ask for assistance. Happy editing!! -- A Rose  Wolf  17:08, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red May 2024
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Question from Swagboy TPM (15:07, 30 April 2024)
Please how do i create an article about my self as an artist? I create one and was speedy deleted.. --Swagboy TPM (talk) 15:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * You should read An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. In fact, many people regret that any article about them exists here, and they have no power to have it removed. If you have ever done anything negative, and it has been mentioned in a reliable source, it will end up in the article for the whole world to see. You should also read WP:COI. -- Valjean (talk) ( PING me ) 15:29, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Disheartened, I shall not be
Thank you for understanding me, and caring, and helping me see, and bringing me back from a disheartened place. You are the epitome of springtime to me. Do any flowers bloom in your area yet, or too soon? --Rosiestep (talk) 17:52, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Best time is late June into August. That's when I do a lot of wild flower harvesting for salads. We also collect berries during this time. Lingonberry is a favorite. We have cranberries and huckleberries too. Whatever we do not pick ourselves we import from other locations in Southern Alaska. I make Raspberry, blueberry and strawberry pies. I will occasionally make a blackberry pie when we can have blackberries flown in. It is a real treat. I love baking and making various designs with the crust of my pies. Generally we will travel to communities and homesteads in the area giving these pies out. I do not charge anything because it is a labor of love but we trade often and it is common that they sneak a little something into my sled or my pack when I'm not looking. I will continue sending springtime vibrations your way. -- A Rose Wolf  18:21, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

So I found this image of berry pies in Alaska. Berry pies, berry jams; what a lovely way to celebrate summer. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:36, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * , Berries are a very important part of our diet. I try not to romanticize our way of life too much, it is not for the faint of heart, but I can appreciate when others appreciate it. What I celebrate is my connection with others, like you. I celebrate you, Rosie. Who you are, the Song your life plays for me. Your colors which weave a ribbon of musical notes through my spirit that makes a permanent impact on the details of my journey and even becomes part of my Song. You are loved. You are valued. You are cherished. -- A Rose Wolf  18:52, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I find the thought of including wildflowers in salads absolutely delightful! --Tryptofish (talk) 21:40, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It's my favorite summer dish tbh.-- A Rose Wolf  02:44, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Sasteine$ on Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 (11:57, 2 May 2024)
Good morning I have questions on fair labor standards… I worked for a company for the last 18 months where I was continually harassed, bullied, I saw a fellow worker get assaulted, physically assaulted, I was doing six jobs or more all at one time getting paid for one, also my hours were cut for no reason eight months ago, I was forced to get another job, besides this one, I was also injured on the job, I saw doctors, had MRI, and physical therapy, that my insurance paid for because they failed to acknowledge that I had been injured… I had been injured several times I need help with this. And I would like to write a statement and press charges if I can no one should ever have to work under these conditions. --Sasteine$ (talk) 11:57, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello, and welcome to my talk page. I'm very sorry you experienced those things on your job. I know it must have been very difficult for you. It is good that some of your procedures were paid for, at least, but tragic those procedures were needed in the first place. You'll have to forgive me but I have read your words more than once and I do not see the question in it that pertains to encyclopedia article Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938. Perhaps I did overlook it but would you clarify what the question is? I will go ahead and add some helpful tips and links to your user talk page about editing on Wikipedia. Welcome and happy editing! -- A Rose Wolf  12:10, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Nsfwgeek (17:15, 2 May 2024)
Hello, how can I create a page about certain website? Thanks in advance --Nsfwgeek (talk) 17:15, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello,, and welcome to my talk page. I'll post some helpful hints and tips to your user talk page that my answer your question more in-depth. The short version is that we do not have pages in mainspace of the encyclopedia, we have articles. Those articles must be about notable subjects and can only be filled with content that is found in reliable sources by Wikipedia's definition. If you have any more questions please feel free to follow up anytime. Happy editing! -- A Rose Wolf  17:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Everything Not Dead (13:11, 5 May 2024)
Hey Mentor! I just made my first edit! I hope I made some good fixes! Could you look at my edit and provide some feedback? Thanks! --Everything Not Dead (talk) 13:11, 5 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello, and welcome to my talk page. First, let me address your question. I have looked at your edits and they seem bold but justified to me. You explain your edits in the summary which is good. You started out small and are gradually expanding which is good. Don't worry about going to fast or too slow. Everyone's development is different. Always ere toward the side of caution but never lose that edge, Over all, good job. Some edits may get challenged, and that's okay. When making bold edits you will make mistakes and others will correct it. Be ready to accept criticism and apply what you learn from others.
 * Now, on a more personal note: Thank you for signing my guestbook. Not long after coming to Wikipedia I was sent on a journey by someone I deeply care about here. She opened the door to exploring the community that makes the encyclopedia so much different than others that have come before. Wile this is not a social media site or a forum, we are social creatures that need interaction. I have met some amazing human beings here. It sounds like you have been on a similar journey. One such person is, from whom I learned a great deal about what Wikipedia is and formed my philosophies concerning it. Before that I struggled and sometimes still do. The activist in me wants to correct what I perceive is wrong. But the Wikipedian tempers that and is able to edit by putting aside their personal bias. We are to be passionate for improving the encyclopedia through collaboration and community building yet remain dispassionate about specific subjects. That is the pinnacle we all are trying to reach for. I am thrilled you are here and even more thrilled to be your mentor. I shall do everything I can to direct you towards a successful journey here. If you have any further questions please don't hesitate to ask. Once again, welcome to Wikipedia and happy editing! -- A Rose Wolf  11:16, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Lingonberries
I see that ligonberries are one of your favorites. Mine too. Ligonberries have been home-garden cultivated in Belgium and the Netherlands long before I was born (near Antwerp, Belgium; 77 years ago). As you so rightly say above, we are social creatures and friendly interactions should not be frowned upon. Many years ago, as a young novice editor, I was chastised for being too friendly. I recall an admin telling me to stop "schmoozing". It "quieted" me for too long a time. Luckily, I met two editors that were like you and we chatted. Often. Anyway, Editor E.N.D. (above) is lucky to have you as a mentor. Buster Seven   Talk  (UTC) 20:59, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


 * , I've been given the "Wikipedia is not a forum" and "Wikipedia is not social media" before too, but I can make a case that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia community. The focus is always on improving the encyclopedia. But you cant deny the community part of that. People have lost sense of what a community is. In order to have a strong community you must build upon social interaction. We form relationships. That's how a real community functions most affectively. Not that every one gets along all the time. We see every disagreement as being disconnected which we view as negative. I don't see that. Disagreements are the sharing of ideas. Everyone doesn't function on the same wavelength. We need each other, literally, to complete this puzzle called life. I could say more but perhaps by email. Needless to say I am here to support my fellow editors and help guide new editors, like E.N.D., to navigate this often strange world we call Wikipedia. I love this encyclopedia and I haven't met an editor yet that I don't love the Song they sing. -- A Rose Wolf  11:06, 7 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Ah, I just had to respond to this. People can say that "Wikipedia is not social media", but I think it partly is. I find a real, sustaining community here that inspires and stimulates creativity. Not to be the old man mad at the world and waving his cane at it (I don't really have a cane, don't need one, yet;-), but I think something has been lost with the ascendancy of smart phones and platforms like TikTok.


 * When I was a teenager, we would gather at the town plaza and hang out with our friends on the weekends during the school year, and every night in the summer; there might be a hundred of us, in various groups. Black kids were part of our scene, too, and we all hung out together. We hippies shouted down the "greasers" who would invade the park swinging chains and try to start fights. People would make music, have "rap sessions", and make plans to meet up at our party spots on Friday and Saturday nights. Unknown bands who soon become famous gave free outdoor concerts at the beach. It was glorious. That was "community", the kind of real closeness that doesn't seem to happen anymore around here.


 * I live in a neighborhood near the beach now that has quite a few kids of all ages, but you hardly ever see most of them outside, except at the school bus stops. So eerie. The streets are too quiet. I miss the '60s and '70s. It was a great time to be young.;-) Carlstak (talk) 00:44, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * One of the things I love about where I live, the land is as wild as my hippie heart. I own no cell phone, have no social media accounts and almost all social interaction I have with anyone outside of my family is here, building something amazing with an incredibly diverse community that I adore and respect. -- A Rose Wolf  11:11, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Interestingly, I live in a very urban location, in a large apartment building, and yet the similarities to what you just said are remarkable. I own a cell phone, but almost never use it and I don't carry it around with me. I have no social media accounts. And I'm very selective about my social interactions. But I value the interactions I have with people all over the globe, in the course of my editing here. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

May music
Thank you for being you! - On the bicentenary of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, I remember our recent uplifting choral concert in pictures, on my user page and in my concerts (leading to the two at the church's article). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:04, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Today is the Feast of the Ascension for which Bach composed his oratorio, - perhaps watch a bit how the closing movement was performed in Bach's church. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:37, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Magdalena Hinterdobler is on the Main page today, together with an opera that reviewers deemed not interesting and too obscure for our general readers. The soprano thought differently, - listen and see. - Also on the Main page: a TFA by sadly missed Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

did you listen and see? - today's story has a pic of a woman holding her cat, a DYK of 5 years ago - the recent pics show 2 orange tip butterflies --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

I heard lovely chamber music today, and the DYK mentions "profoundly human" singing (that you can watch), connected to a place where we'll sing in September --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:00, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for improving articles in May! - Today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old OTD. - There's a nice video of the singer making music with his mom, sister, himself (playing clarinet in a duet without soprano) and dad (born 1935) during the pandemic (in his article). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:06, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

last offer in May: photos of the river Rhine, and the adjacent Eltville rose garden, - high water and interesting weather --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:23, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from KhouryGrg (16:16, 8 May 2024)
Hello, I added a new change today in health literacy before I create my account. I would like to link this edit to my account. --KhouryGrg (talk) 16:16, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to my talk page. Thank you for bringing your questions here and allowing me to answer them. I do not believe there is a way to directly link edits you may have made as an IP to your named account, however, I do believe you can physically list the edit made on your user page along with the IP name so anyone searching can more easily find that you made that edit. Any editor more technical than I or admin watching can chime in if they know a more direct answer or you may take your question to the WP:Teahouse for further guidance. I hope I successfully answered your question. Happy editing! -- A Rose  Wolf  17:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Ramaya49 on Cannonball Musical Instruments (21:12, 8 May 2024)
Wondering where I can get the valves on My Big Bell Stone worked on? --Ramaya49 (talk) 21:12, 8 May 2024 (UTC)


 * , hello and welcome to my talk page. I think that's a question for an instrument repair shop or a music store. Good luck, I hope you get it fixed and are back to making music soon. Do you have any questions about Wikipedia or editing? -- A Rose Wolf  10:32, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Shamalamading (08:47, 9 May 2024)
This seems strange. I am intending to write for those that are willing to listen openly to ideas they may have missed on their journey. I have been in their shoes and still am as we are all constantly learning. I have been thinking about a mentor for (what seems as) a long time. Hello. I'm Benjamin. Are you finding that what you need is arriving to you? Are you confused about why this may or may not be happening? Some speak of this as manifestation... --Shamalamading (talk) 08:47, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I will mill around to figure out how this all works. I'm not too worried about that. Most of the conttent will be headed in a spiritual direction, with physics (science), and a general idea that we are all seeking/questioning/wondering in a similar way about everything- even if some of us are unaware of this fact... :-) Sometimes a hug is all it takes, but kindness wisdom understanding hope guilt shame and FORGIVENESS are difficult at times to say the least. I healed myself. I hope to help others do the same.

Kind Regards, Benjamin. --Shamalamading (talk) 08:55, 9 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you for bringing your questions to my talk page, . I am going to leave some tips on your talk page since you say you wish to continue editing Wikipedia. Hugs are wonderful. Keep singing your Song and I am thrilled you were able to heal yourself. It takes immense inner strength to overcome the trauma life can throw at us. I encourage you to read and study the editing skills of others before endeavoring too far on your own. We all have something to teach others and we all have something to learn from others. Happy editing and welcome to Wikipedia! -- A Rose Wolf  10:41, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from TahaKarakaya0 (12:53, 9 May 2024)
Nası alıntı oluşturabilirim --TahaKarakaya0 (talk) 12:53, 9 May 2024 (UTC)


 * , Luckily, I have limited exposure to Turkish to recognize. Unfortunately it's not so much exposure that I can make out every word. I believe you are asking how you can edit, correct me if I am wrong? I am going to leave some helpful tips on your user talk page that should assist you. Please seek guidance on WP:Teahouse for further guidance or you may always ask on my use talk page here. Happy editing! -- A Rose Wolf  13:06, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Charlottemarston (21:37, 9 May 2024)
Hello! I'm looking to create a wikipedia page for "offshore solar power" and not sure how to start off with that. Getting familiar with Wiki doing edits on some other articles in the field. --Charlottemarston (talk) 21:37, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Uhm me pro epic pro (01:49, 14 May 2024)
Hi how are you? I hope your having a amazing life --Uhm me pro epic pro (talk) 01:49, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Rsachde2 on Saddle River, New Jersey (05:34, 14 May 2024)
Hi I uploaded two pictures of Saddle River yesterday which are not showing up. Ty Ravi --Rsachde2 (talk) 05:34, 14 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello and welcome to my talk page. It appears the pictures you uploaded were removed from the article by a later edit. Just looking at the articles history I can see that there was no summary why they were removed, a poor practice but all too common, however looking at the pictures in question I would have to say placement in the article is the issue. It was placed above the infobox. You can try re-adding the pictures in the body of the article. The lead reads more like a travel guide than an encyclopedia article. There are several things mentioned in the lead that are not found within the body of the article. This is in violation of MOS:LEAD which states that significant information should not appear in the lead if it is not covered in the remainder of the article. -- A Rose  Wolf  11:25, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Lillie
Hi, it isn't appropriate to share this on the open talk page, but I feel like this might resonate with you... I hope so. If not, it won't hurt my feelings if you delete it right away.

I am a psychic medium and I had an image of Lillie as a nine year old girl standing before me in what looks to be a deer-skin shift (not a boarding school house dress) in a moderately darkened forest (not much light or love is coming in). With her arms tightly crossed and her eyes in a hard-fixed glaze, she stomped one foot and then another. I think she was called a ba*****. And perhaps her father being a Quaker and not married to Lillie's mother is what made it so she couldn't be a citizen (vs. percentage of blood). Like this would have been so disrespectful in the eyes of the elders.

She is so angry and hurt. I don't think she's been seeing her mother's family. She opens one hand to show a clutched paper. I think the paper was a symbol of a valid birth (not a U.S. birth certificate or Native American citizenship type paper). The source material says she didn't learn that Allen was her father until she was 18, but perhaps she knew that earlier (at nine). At 18, Allen said she wasn't illegitimate and my guess is that he meant her to understand she wasn't illegitimate in the eyes of God. My heart breaks for this little girl.–CaroleHenson (talk) 14:48, 15 May 2024 (UTC)


 * , you feel a connection to her and it's understandable because this little girl visited you. Her Song still exists in the Earth and it plays for anyone with the ear to hear. Every life is legitimate and every Song wants to be heard. I will not delete this discussion and if this little girl is Lillie's Song or some other Song you should definitely pay attention and honor her. Think of the symbol as a resonance. I play the Tibetan bowls because of the rich sound the emanates from them. You feel the sound waves in your body. I see the colors associated with every sound. Our life's Song is no different.
 * The Mohawk are a proud people and fierce warriors. They are matrilineal meaning descended through their mother. Women held the leadership roles within clans and every child belonged to their mothers clan. You were forbidden to marry within the same clan as this was your direct relative. By the times Lillie came along relationships with Europeans was a regular occurrence, perhaps her birth outside marriage would have been frowned on but she would certainly not be rejected.
 * It is clear you feel empathy and while I do empathize with that portion of her story I also see the immense value of her work and celebrate her contribution to the human existence. Perhaps focus on acknowledging this with her strong feminine presence. See if that helps calm her tempest. I hear your Song Lillie. It is a beautiful symphony, a colorful sound tapestry. The best we can do is honor and respect her Song by offering the most accurate policy based viewpoint of her life in our article on this project. Lillie is legitimate as a fellow human. -- A Rose Wolf  15:27, 15 May 2024 (UTC)


 * What you say is so lovely! Yes, I will do some Buddhist chanting and remember the good that she did. Thanks for providing me with information about what she would be like and what she would value.


 * The message that I got was that the elders were mad that Allen did not come to them. Or someone else who was the father, not every source says the father was Allen, I think it's possible that Allen stepped forward to be a father figure for Lillie. The problem was that whoever the father was, he wasn't recognizing the importance of making himself known and that he needed to earn the right to be in Lillie's mother's life. I think that was so, every family is different and this was a very proud one. Thanks for being gracious. I hope we continue to cross paths at times. Have a great day.–CaroleHenson (talk) 15:42, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Yesterday, at work, I said "Have a great day" to a lady as she exited the elevator. She stopped, turned, smiled at me, and said, "Have a great year". I may start to sing that song to others. Buster Seven   Talk  (UTC) 19:05, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Ayounes291177 (11:06, 21 May 2024)
Hello, how can make the text as hyperlink to another website --Ayounes291177 (talk) 11:07, 21 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello and welcome to my talk page! The easiest way to add a link to an external website is to click on the chain symbol above the edit window or use the shortcut: CTRL+K. You can then choose if you want to link either internal (wikilink) or external (website). I hoped this helped and thank you again for asking your question here. If you need further assistance you can come back here or, if I am unavailable, you may want to visit the Teahouse where we have amazing editors ready to answer your questions. -- A Rose  Wolf  13:13, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Harpreet2222 on Talk:Saini (20:10, 21 May 2024)
Hi i am writing this make correction for saini caste in punjab. They are not under obc. They are under general cast and they are landowners(zimidaars) please update it on the web page. So many people are confused about it. --Harpreet2222 (talk) 20:10, 21 May 2024 (UTC)


 * , welcome to my talk page. I suggest that you bring it up in a discussion on the article talk page. From there other editors interested in this subject can evaluate the information you provide and can make a decision to edit or not. Alternatively, you can be bold and make the changes yourself. Please include a citation for the sources you use that will verify any content you may add. -- A Rose Wolf  17:24, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from RichMillerPDX (22:34, 21 May 2024)
Hi ARoseWolf! Thanks for your help as I get back up to speed on making suggested updates to Wikipedia pages for my clients. The last time I did this was 10+ years ago...maybe 15+...and the process has evolved. One thing that is new to me is declaring COI information. I have the language I want to post about that...but I clumsily cannot find the area to enter that. Can you point me in the right direction within my profile page to post that? Thanks! --Rich --RichMillerPDX (talk) 22:34, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * You can read about the policies and the way to properly post the information at WP:Paid-contribution disclosure. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:55, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Elinor Graham (02:29, 22 May 2024)
Hello, I just updated the entry on my Great Great Grandfather, W.S. Oliphant. I have a photo of him I would like to have on the site but can't figure out how to insert it. Can you help me with this? Thanks --Elinor Graham (talk) 02:29, 22 May 2024 (UTC)


 * , welcome to my talk page. See this link for our Image use policy. If this doesn't help you please let me know. Welcome to Wikipedia and I hope you decide to stay and edit other articles. -- A Rose Wolf  17:20, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I've tried multiple times as this photo from the 1889 WA state legislature is in the public domain but can't figure out how to get it added to the text. I give up! Elinor Graham (talk) 14:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I think if you drag the picture and do a certain edit you'll be able to that's all I may know Calvinn5 (talk) 23:51, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red June 2024
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Question from Calvinn5 (21:48, 24 May 2024)
How do I create an article? --Calvinn5 (talk) 21:48, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Welcome to my talk page, . I have posted links to your talk page that will help you understand how to write and article. If you have further questions please let me know. -- A Rose Wolf  16:00, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Adam D'Arco (05:16, 25 May 2024)
Hello how can I create a wikiproject? --Adam D&#39;Arco (talk) 05:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Afrotech
Terrence Howard's Howardcrwardsp (talk) 00:53, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


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Copy edit
Hiya, you might want to capitalize Indigenous in your recent vote. 😊 Yuchitown (talk) 15:54, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I had it capitalized. Don't know what happened. I think I just didn't proof it enough. Thanks for pointing it out. -- A Rose Wolf  16:08, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I am the lord of typos! Feel free to delete this convo and have a great day! Yuchitown (talk) 16:13, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

June music
Today's story is about the TFA, by sadly missed Vami_IV. In my support in 2018, I hoped to do justice to Schloss Köthen next - which I will begin today, finally, promised. Its Bachsaal was pictured to begin this year year. For more related thoughts and music, look on my talk for 1 June. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:26, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Franz Kafka died 100 years ago OTD, hence the story. I uploaded a few pics from the visit of Graham87. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:19, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Today's story is about an extraordinary biography, Peter Demetz, also from Prague. - I uploaded a few more pics but leave the link, because there's a new one of Graham and his mother who liked it.--Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:00, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Today's story is about a tune used by Bach and Mozart. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:49, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Today's story is about a performance I watched in 2012 and made a DYK hook in 2017, and my 2012 prediction that we met a great singer was right ;) - if you have more time to read, there's a new GA, Cecelia Hall, and the de:Youth Symphony Orchestra of Ukraine on the German Hauptseite, - both topics were stories before. + new pics --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:59, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

New pics of food and flowers come with the story of Noye's Fludde (premiered on 18 June), written by Brian Boulton. I nominated Éric Tappy because he died, and it needs support today! I nominated another women for GA in the Women in Green June run, - review welcome, and more noms planned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:16, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for improving article quality in June! - Today we have a centenarian story (documentation about it by Percy Adlon) and an article that had two sentences yesterday and was up for deletion, and needs a few more citations. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:43, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Today is a feast day for which Bach composed a chorale cantata in 1724 (and we had a DYK about it in 2012). Can't believe that Jodie Devos had to die, - don't miss her video from the Opéra-Comique at the end, - story to come. The weekend brought plenty of music sung and listened to, and some of it is reflected in the last two stories! + pics of good food with good company --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:53, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Justveggie92 (04:06, 3 June 2024)
How can I write an Article about a restaurant? does this platform helps in SEO ranking? --Justveggie92 (talk) 04:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Mail
Buster Seven   Talk  (UTC) 18:19, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Akhilesh0890 (01:54, 6 June 2024)
Hi, Im a content creator and im currently working on Plumbing resources and repairs. How can I add some more information to tankless water heater on wikipedia? all content is original and written by me and referenced to my website: https://handyhouseheroes.com/blog/ --Akhilesh0890 (talk) 01:54, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

About reverting edit
Hi. I want to ask what was wrong with the edit. My wording wasn't unnecessary verbose. I only added some details to not seem confusing. I didn't do anything controversial Hateglitter (talk) 11:45, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * , you added unnecessarily verbose language not directly supported by the sources for those statements and you still have not disclosed your other accounts you have used on Wikipedia to make edits as you stated on your talk page. You also said you were leaving this account and going back to your other one because you found your password again. You retired and attempted to "delete" this account. I do not want to have to open an SPI because you chose to give the appearance you violating Wikipedia's rules against Sockpuppetry and avoiding scrutiny by the community for the edits you have made with other accounts and may be continuing to do. I chose to let this go because you retired and were not editing further with this account but now you continue without disclosing after you acknowledged you have multiple accounts. -- A Rose Wolf  11:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean to edit using this account I found out that I was logged in with this account after I edited. I won't use this account again. Hateglitter (talk) 12:00, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * , The proper thing would be to disclose your other accounts. But I will not pursue this matter forward if you are retiring. However, if you continue to edit with this account and because you have disclosed you have multiple accounts I will open an SPI and let check users connect your accounts and the community will be able to scrutinize all your edits. I have one account. I have only ever had one account and all my edits are plain to see and critique. Editors should welcome this. There are legitimate reasons to have multiple accounts but that editor generally discloses all of them so the community can see they are not using it to edit the same articles and influencing discussions. -- A Rose Wolf  12:06, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * i will not edit with this account again. I haven't used it for many days. See for yourself. I opened it accidently. I have retired this account. Permanantly. Hateglitter (talk) 12:10, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * , but you thought you were on your other account and were going to edit an article you have used this account to edit and only realized afterwards that you were logged in on this account? That is a direct violation of Wikipedia rules. You are presenting two accounts as being anonymous and separate because you have not disclosed you are the same. You can not edit that article with your other account unless you disclose they are connected, period. -- A Rose Wolf  12:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * i don't intend to edit that article now. My edit was reverted so there's no point. Hateglitter (talk) 12:18, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok I have decided to disclose my other account. Where should I do it Hateglitter (talk) 12:36, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * , on your user page for both accounts you would disclose. That will allow the community to confirm you are not socking against policy. -- A Rose Wolf  15:06, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * i have a question. See my previous user account didn't have a proper name. It was my laptops IP address. Today I looked up rules regarding it I saw some people say that it's not necessary to write on user page if you were editing by your IP address as it doesn't count as an account. IP address is combination of WiFi and device. So I didn't have my laptop and I had to edit using mobile.I was suggested to make account on mobile. So what do you think? Should I write the IP address on user page. Do you know rules regarding it? Hateglitter (talk) 18:03, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * , no need if it was an IP. But why would you need a password if it was just an IP account? -- A Rose Wolf  14:35, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
 * i did not need a password. I only said it initially so that it won't be figured out that it was an IP, so it would not make it easier to track my IP account. Hateglitter (talk) 16:33, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
 * , why would you try to hide anything if you have nothing to hide about what you edited as an IP? I don't need to know the IP, I just wanted it stated that you either lied then or you are lying now. No way to prove which it true so I'll leave it alone but please don't edit logged out anymore. -- A Rose Wolf  17:27, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Earlier I thought that IP counts as an account. So that's why I didn't reveal it. Also because revealing IP could lead to potential doxxing. Hateglitter (talk) 17:35, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Sailor Zoe (03:14, 9 June 2024)
Hello thankyou, how do I crate a citidon* --Sailor Zoe (talk) 03:14, 9 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Sailor Zoe use . be sure to search for sources to cite  brachy 08  (chat here lol) 00:43, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Iambootz on The Pope's Exorcist (03:24, 15 June 2024)
The source given in paragraph "Release" (link 20 in sources) does not state anything about the movie being no 1 in cinemas for any number of days in theaters in USA... Even the archived version does not contain such information. Is there anything else I should do or try to verify, before removing the baseless information and source it gives? --Iambootz (talk) 03:24, 15 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello and welcome to my talk page. You are correct that the source does not mention what was said and I can see removing that portion of the statement. It doesn't say it was #1 in cinemas though. It says it was ranked as the #1 film for nine weeks. I have found a number of sources which do say it was the number #1 film on Netflix in America for several weeks but I haven't found an exact number. -- A Rose  Wolf  12:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red August 2024
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Question from Fibre H. Bundle (21:26, 7 July 2024)
Hey there! Thanks for being my mentor :) I was wondering what do to with a page like Asado as i stumbled across it. It has a couple sections with no citations, but it also has plagiarism and possibly other issues. I added the original research tag to the article, but i don't know if that's sufficient to indicate this page has more issues, since the plagiarism might be more important. thanks in advance for your advice! --Fibre H. Bundle (talk) 21:26, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

July music
Pictured on the Main page: Brian's Mozart family grand tour, my story today, and Mozart related to all three items of music on my talk: our 2023 concert, an opera in a theatre where a Mozart premiere took place, and those remembered, Martti Wallén, a bass, and Liana Isakadze, a violinist from Georgia (whose article would be better with more details about her music-making). -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:00, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

My story today is - because of the anniversary of the premiere OTD in 1782 - about Die Entführung aus dem Serail, opera by Mozart, while yesterday's was - because of the TFA - about Les contes d'Hoffmann, opera by Offenbach. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:19, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for improving article quality in July! - Today's story is about a photographer who took iconic pictures, especially View from Williamsburg, Brooklyn, on Manhattan, 9/11, yesterday's was a great mezzo, and on Thursday we watched a sublime ballerina. If that's not enough my talk offers the chamber music from two amazing concerts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:23, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Balancing harms
Hello, il mia amica! It's been a little while, but I saw your following two posts on the ATG/Lb ANI thread, and I really wanted to engage with you about your sentiments--not least because I've always known you to be someone who walks the walk with regard to civility. That is to say, someone who doesn't adopt a standard for conduct unless she is prepared to embrace it herself, and then some. However, I felt that I had already written my fair share on the topic at hand for one thread. And in our handful of past interactions, I've always felt welcomed to express my impressions at length with you. So I thought I would bring my thoughts here. I just typed the substance of them up, and they aren't any shorter than any of my two larger posts in the ANI thread, so needless to say, feel free to hat or even delete them without fear of my feeling upset!

So, for context, your two posts that got me so inclined to reach out:


 * "I'm not a fan of WPO. I don't have an account there and I will not get one but I think having a site outside Wikipedia that scrutinizes Wikipedia is a good thing. I think having Wikipedia editors there is a good thing. I also think it would be a good thing for those editors to remember that your actions follow you. Calling a Wikipedia editor names off Wikipedia when you, yourself, are a Wikipedia editor does affect the community negatively. We can't police other sites nor should we, but we can police our own community and our own actions within that community directed at fellow editors, whether on Wikipedia or off, when it comes to light. There are a million ways to express dissatisfaction with someone's edits without calling them names, whether it's considered being brutally honest or not. Sometimes it can become more about brutality than being honest. When we get there then we lose all ability to remain collegial and if that happens the message about the quality of content is lost. -- A Rose Wolf 17:54, 10 July 2024 (UTC)". . ."I'll say it here since the section was closed below. Nableezy says people will work with others after they called them an idiot and imbecile off wiki and they might, I will not. I will not work with someone that repeatedly trashes and insults me off-Wiki, on-Wiki, by emails or otherwise if I know about it. No one should be subjected to the demeaning position of accepting that behavior and quite frankly no one should be forced to, as you are suggesting, as a requirement to edit on Wikipedia. We have the civility policy to promote a collegial atmosphere of editing and when there are issues we have venues like this where all the drama (I wish there was less) and all the legitimate discussion goes to find solutions. I don't think it is a matter of growing up and accepting that not everyone is going to like you. I think we all know that and I think the answer is you better faux act collegial and work together and stop this nonsense or you don't belong on a project and in a community where civil interactions is required. -- A Rose Wolf  20:33, 11 July 2024 (UTC)"

And my thoughts:


 * As I think you'll probably already know from conversations you and I have had in the past, I substantially share a lot of your sentiments here, particularly the disdain for a person who will not discipline their mind enough to avoid constant insults. The problem is that the community's decision to limit CIV, NPA, and related behavioural policies to scope of on-project interactions from early in the project's history was not an arbitrary one, but rather one taken with an eye towards privacy and outing concerns, which simply cannot be adequately enforced if we attempt to extend control of our contributor's expressions into their lives.  The consequences for weakening that divide include some potentially truly horrific harms that go well beyond having to live with some unsavory or even outright offensive comments.  I'm honestly a little concerned by the lack of enforcement of WP:OUTING in the ANI discussion, but obviously the inertia of the discussion, fueled by the divisive conduct of both editors being discussed go a long way to explaining that. Even so, I would be terribly worried about the prospect of this sort of thing becoming normalized.  As tired and toxic as I feel Andy's behaviour has been, the worst of his comments pales in comparison to the types of harassment that will be enabled if we lose sight of our existing privacy protections--let alone if we were to enable and encourage the gathering of information from the off-project lives of contributors as a matter of course. Beyond that, I'm going to be honest, I just don't think that asking any user to abstain from ever expressing an opinion that might qualify as a PA of a user here in their off-project lives is a reasonable ask.  CIV and NPA exist to maintain a clean and relatively welcoming and peaceable work environment here on the encyclopedia.  And as far as that goes, I am a strong advocate for their firm enforcement (certainly well above what is often the norm here for established editors who often get away with bloody murder in PA terms, as this discussion ably demonstrates).  In fact, I think if there has been any one thing I've heard in complaint about me in our behavioural fora, it's that some feel I have a too demanding interpretation of CIV.  I don't think I'd agree with most of those editors, but the point is that I think I fall on the well on the more cautious side of things when it comes to the spectrum of opinions in our community. And yet, I still feel it is plain overreach to expect that by signing up to participate here, one accrues an obligation to sublimate their opinions in their private lives.  It's too much to ask of a volunteer worker. Mind you, that doesn't stop me from taking an extremely dim view of people who don't exercise that self-control as a matter of personal character and discipline.  I can certainly not fathom making petty little back-biting insults directed at community members here from the safety of an off-project silo, and I have nothing but reproach for those who do.  But neither am I comfortable with abrogating our privacy and outing protections to stop them. Nor, if I'm honest, do I think I would necessarily support proscribing their free expression of their low opinions even if we didn't have compelling privacy concerns.  It's just not a part of the deal that participating here means that the community will protect you from insult arising out of your work here, out in the wide world. I wish the commitment to respect and restraint were more voluntarily uniform among our community members such that we would see no (or at least less) such behaviour.  But I think the reality is that participation here requires real fortitude in the face of unpleasantness, and because of the complexity of our endeavour (and the nature of the project, the internet and the world at large) it's just always going to be that way, to some extent.  Though I certainly hope things will generally improve over time as the project matures.  But I think the ultimate solution has to be that we nudge things in the right direction by embracing the better angels of our nature.  I know it would be naive to believe that this will be enough in itself to cure our environments of the kind of hostility and ugliness than some personalities, in their diverse sufferings, pathologies, and incapacities will unfailingly introduce into the lives of all individuals and movements that attempt good works.  But neither do I think that such forbearance is altogether ineffective or purposeless. In fact, I think Wikipedia (and all great works of collaboration) depend on it every day.  Anyway, just my two cents. I hope this meandering monologue is not too unwelcome here.  I hope it means something when I say that there are relatively few editors whose talk page I would feel comfortable making such a longform, unsolicited response on. Sno</b><b style="color:#b2dffe;">w</b><b style="color:#B27EB2;">Rise</b><b style="color:#d4143a"> let's rap</b> 21:52, 11 July 2024 (UTC)


 * , You are always welcome here and so is your thoughts. Like you, I find that we often mostly agree. That is to say we have more in common than not. I respect a person who clearly has convictions and is willing to share and debate those openly. I think that's severely lacking in this world of instant gratification and a result of having most anything anyone needs at their fingertips. I remember as a child we lived simple though my parents were both really wealthy. We lived in a humble house, all of my sisters and I slept in the same bed. We didn't have our own rooms. I didn't get that until I was nearly an adult. The boys were the same. My papa's parents lived technically right in front of us but it was a few hundred yards down the winding road. The road wound down the mountain in S shapes so they were really close walking distance. I spent my time reading books under trees or climbing them to read. I still own no cell phone, like it would do any good. But I digress, at the bottom of the mountain there was a store, a warehouse, a community center and several smaller buildings used for various things like storage. Everyone from that piedmont mountain community would gather here on most days to have conversations and debates and just in general socialize. It was a center of business and commerce. The seat of government for the community. A place of celebration and reflection. As expected there were quite a few heated encounters between community members as well but everything was done openly. And in the end they worked things out. Now I wont say there weren't bad feelings between certain people and we were told not to have dealings with certain ones but we were also told to always respect them. If you are spoken to you respond respectfully. And even in disagreement you are to remain kind. I fail at this but it is still the principle I strive for and live for.
 * Now to this situation, and let me say that I have liked and agreed with Andy in the past, if Andy had used a different user name or denied it was him then I'd say absolutely, we should AGF and let this go. He outed himself. He openly defied and disregarded his previous blocks on civility, even as the block was occurring, and continued his behavior by disrespecting Wikipedia policy and the Wikipedia community by attacking, unnecessarily, a fellow editor under his username on a site dedicated to criticizing Wikipedia knowing full well, and I suspect hoping, LB would see it and this would be the result, this ANI. This is more than simply policing oneself which we could agree needs to happen. This is openly rebelling against Wikipedia principle and our values as a community at a place he felt he would be supported in giving us all the middle finger, but in particular LB whom he was angry with in the moment. And he did so using his WP user name for the express purpose of us knowing it was him that did just so it would sting more.
 * I am all for privacy. Then be private if you want privacy. If you say things that hurt Wikipedia or the community in the open on public forums using your name and say it was you saying it then those actions weren't meant to be done in private and we certainly don't have to honor your privacy in those situations specifically regarding what was said. What those consequences are is left up to the community. I haven't voted for or against a particular solution, for one main reason is because I just don't think there has been a proposal I feel is perfect and I really don't know what a good solution is. -- A Rose Wolf  13:34, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * And let me address human nature because I actively study this and have been studied for decades. I probably have seen dozens of psychologists through the years. Panels, boards, committee's. I know human nature, I see human nature, I hear human nature in ways I thought were normal but as I grew up am finding out is not the case. No super powers yet but I'll keep you informed. I know it's out there. I know it's a battle I will lose nine times out of ten. I know displays like this are human nature. And really it's not just human's. My dogs fight despite being highly trained. But it is unique in humans to get joy and satisfaction out of tearing down another human being and living off the misery of others, to feed off drama like a drug. It is a curse we suffer with. The opposite is true of course, as evidenced by some amazing people I have met here on my talk page, including yourself. We feed off the good nature too. Love, peace, joy, charity, all gifts to us. Good will should always be cherished and afforded and expanded upon. Pipe dream? Maybe. But that's the only battle worth fighting for imho. -- A Rose Wolf  13:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, I've been reading this discussion, and I find what both of you have said very worthwhile. I don't have a lot to add, but I'll just say that I wrote WP:DEFARGE out of some concerns that I think are somewhat related. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:53, 13 July 2024 (UTC)


 * But it is unique in humans to get joy and satisfaction out of tearing down another human being and living off the misery of others, to feed off drama like a drug. It is a curse we suffer with.. This is an interesting comment. There’s a lot of people who have managed to excise this habit from their thought processes. I don’t know if you’re familiar with him, but Jack Kornfield addresses this tendency in many of his lectures and writings, and it’s had a great impact on the way I see the world. I think it’s entirely possible not to give in to schadenfreude, and to get to a point where you don’t even need to fight it on an internal basis anymore. Claude AnShin Thomas also discusses this as well, but I’m much less familiar with his current work (he has a new podcast) than I am with Kornfield, who basically destroys any semblance of schadenfreude as a viable thought process with his every lecture. If you want to talk more about this, feel free to contact me on my talk page, but I honestly think there’s a way out of this kind of thinking. Viriditas (talk) 01:54, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I forgot to mention, there are practical, experimental rehabilitation efforts that have tried to deal with this problem at the level of the correctional system. One notable example is the pseudo-bibliotherapy and pseudo-restorative justice program known as Changing Lives Through Literature.  It might interest you in some related way. The program is based is upon the working theory that "we can recognize ourselves and others in the characters of great books, and in so doing gain much-needed understanding about who we are and who we want to be—in our most private thoughts and in the relationships and actions that link us to others". This may be a fuzzy case of consilience, as that is exact same premise Kornfield and Thomas both teach, not in terms of literature, but in the framework of oral history, in the power of the personal stories that they share. Viriditas (talk) 02:21, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Prabalini Prabakaran (11:59, 17 July 2024)
I need show google,the im more then one month compleat --Prabalini Prabakaran (talk) 11:59, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello and welcome to my talk page. The linked draft was erroneously moved from user space to draft space and a redirect from your user name was established linking you to the article when anyone follows your signature. The draft is completely promotional and not encyclopedic. I would not send it into the review process as it currently is. There are no reliable secondary sources cited for anything. There are external links in the body of the draft. I am assuming you are the subject of the draft. If so you are strongly discouraged from writing about yourself. There are other sites where this is encouraged and I recommend you find one to include your autobiography. I wish you success in that and your many adventures. If you have further questions please ask here or seek assistance at the teahouse. -- A Rose  Wolf  15:12, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Note
Yuchitown (talk) 13:28, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * , I agree with what you sent and your assessment of the knowledge you have gained. We can't obviously use the source for reasons we already know but it is good to, at least, have them say it. In the end I do not care what tribes are state, federal or not recognized. I care that we are accurately describing sources and not putting sources together to project an image that the sources individually are not presenting. That IS the definition of OR unlike the thing I was doing which I was accused of placing OR in the article? Holding the content of an article to a standard of only saying, even in summary, exactly what is written in the source by way of discussion rather than edit warring is a good thing. -- A Rose Wolf  15:57, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'll respond to your email as soon as I can. -- A Rose Wolf  15:58, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * No hurry! Hope you are doing well! Yuchitown (talk) 01:44, 19 July 2024 (UTC)