User talk:ARoseWolf/Draft:Clan Mother

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This title is mostly commonly written as "Clan Mother". BradMajors (talk) 22:04, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

This article needs a complete rewrite (or should it be removed?)
This article needs a complete re-write in an encyclopaedic tone. Unfortunately, I don't know anything about the topic; I just happened to stumble onto the article, and removed one piece of obvious jokery (what some might call "vandalism" but I don't). I would like to fix the article completely, but I don't feel qualified. I'll look at it one more time.

Is it possible this isn't a notable topic? Perhaps the article should be deleted? Anybody?
 * --Ben Culture (talk) 20:46, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * It's a mess. Suggest WP:TNT. Leaving a note at the Indigenous Wikiproject to see if anyone wants to save it, otherwise, I'll delete it. Putting a prod on it now, as well. - CorbieVreccan  ☊ ☼ 21:13, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Hopi sections needs a rewrite with other sources
Large parts of the section on Hopi clan mothers, quite frankly, seem more like some sort of odd feminist fantasy than a cohesive depiction of the society (even if it is completely accurate). The odd mentioning of a "standing army" and heavy overusage of quotes with incredibly large skips within them and many corrections from the source makes the whole paragraph both hard to read and to some extent even makes it seem suspicious.

Furthermore, it only actually mentions clan mothers as an aside in the very last sentence of the second paragraph. That seems like a rather undesirable thing in an article about clan mothers.

--Elearch (talk) 07:20, 10 October 2020 (UTC)


 * @Elearch odd feminist fantasy? wow! how archaic and derogatorily female of you! 21st century and people still think like you without doing their historical research??? 76.68.187.80 (talk) 13:48, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Userfied for cleanup
See discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America. - CorbieVreccan  ☊ ☼ 22:34, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Tense issues
please rewrite your additions to not past-tense living cultures, people and communities. If discussing something that was more common in the past and is less common now, we can use phrasings like, "Traditionally, " or "Historically, " etc. - CorbieVreccan  ☊ ☼ 20:21, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Additionally, the entire article has this problem in places. It needs to be cleaned up throughout, not made worse. - CorbieVreccan  ☊ ☼ 20:23, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I have some books coming that may help me with this. It's going to take a few weeks to get them because it's winter and so difficult to get things delivered here but I'm really interested in studying the topic anyway. In the meantime I'm researching online and I'll make some changes as I go until I can get additional sources to verify some of the information in the article or give me different information to add. -- A Rose Wolf  18:46, 13 December 2022 (UTC)