User talk:AYArktos~enwiki/Archive02

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This archive page covers approximately the dates between August and November 2005.

Post replies to the main talk page, copying the section you are replying to if necessary. (See How to archive a talk page.) --A Y  Arktos 23:38, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Many thanks
Thank you for your vote of support on my recent RfA. I was quite surprised by the amount of support I received, and wish to extend my thanks to you for taking the time to support my nomination for adminship. -- Longhair | Talk 11:57, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Albury Railway Station
Thanks. I grew up in Albury, but left 45 years ago. When I was there, it certainly was the longest station in the Southern Hemisphere, or so I was told by my teachers. I believe it has since been overtaken, but can't confirm the details. Mind you, I was also taught that Ayers Rock (now Uluru) is the world's largest monolith - in fact it is the second largest, the honours going to Mt Augustus(?) in Western Australia, which most people have never even heard of. And I was also taught that the Sydney Harbour Bridge is the world's longest single span bridge, which was never true. It was beaten by a few meters by a bridge in the USA, built before the SH Bridhe was even completed. So "facts" are not always facts. How's Canberra this snowy day? I lived there for 27 years until moving to Melbourne in 2002. Cheers JackofOz 23:39, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

My RfA
Thanks for voting for me on my adminship nomination. And thanks for being one of the high and growing number of awesome Australian contributors. Happy editing, Slac speak up!  21:44, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Adding of links to Holbrook New South Wales
It is a bit hard to generalise the link that was placed in the Holbrook article as a business directory. The site also includes our local newsletter which I believe should be seen on websites relating to the town of Holbrook. --Hail 22:19, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Education in Canberra
Hi, I'm going to work the Canberra article up to featured status. I was wondering since you have been working on schools if you could add some detail on the number of primary and secondary schools (private and public) in Canberra to the education section. Thanks. --nixie 04:44, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Glebe Park, Canberra
Hi, I had a picture of Glebe Park and have been meaning to upload it to contribute to the canberra wiki project. I noticed that you seemed to know something about its past, so I uploaded the pic and created the page. Ambi also included an external link on the Civic page, and it seems to have lotso f useful info. I'm all wiki-ed out tonight, but if you feel like having a go at the Glebe Park page, please do. Adz 12:40, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Group centres in Canberra
Hi AY, I've seen your post about Commercial centres. I agree that something needs to be done, but want to have a bit of a think about it before I get back to you. Just letting you know that I've seen it, and despite the other edits I have been making, I'm not ignoring you. let me think about it for a bit. Adz 02:26, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

RE: Nimmitabel
Howdy! I didn't create the Nimmitabel article, I just added information to that one. 203.129.49.214 created it, but didn't have to much to say, I just started adding info, I didn't even look at, or think about, the namming convention. WikiDon 15:16, 31 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for catching my spelling mistakes. See what happens when it is late. Could you add a caption to the photo saying which way we are looking, and maybe what the main building is across the street? WikiDon 16:25, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

WikiDon 00:43, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Why take out my "driving distances"?
 * 1) If you only knew how long it took to complie the list.
 * 2) It is not a question of the file being to large. If the file ever got really big, I could get behind taking it out.
 * 3) I put it in for people who might be from Kansas, or some such place, to give them added information.
 * 4) It adds value, I like things that add value to articles.
 * 5) I thought maybe an extra tourist or two might see that they can stop off on the way from Melbourne to Sydney (of course if gas keeps going up they all take the train or fly and not drive through there).
 * 6) I got interested in the town because I was watching the movie, which made me want to learn more, so I thought I would make it easier for the next geographically-&-historically-inclined-movie fan to learn more. And, speed up the process.
 * 7) It took up 200 bytes of space, we can afford it.

WikiDon 03:14, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Well,
 * 1) What about Bombala? It is closer than Bega.
 * 2) Picking Seattle, New York and Los Angeles, or even Boston for a neighborhood in Dallas, Texas is a silly-ridiculous analogy. They are thousands of miles away. Scyene is just a neighborhood of Dallas now, or at best a suburb (bad example). But if you look at Cheyenne, Oklahoma you will see the two closet cities of some size, Amarillo, Texas, and Oklahoma City, Okalahoma. Adelaide and Melbourne are a stretch, but Sydney and Canberra are not out of the question. Sydney (of Australian cities) is, or course, the city most known around the world, and using it for a reference point is not out of the question. If you picked a town, say Pendelton, Oregon, it would be well within reason to put in Spokane, Washington; Portland, Oregon; Seattle, Washington; Boise, Idaho; Kennewick and Walla Walla, Washington; Umatilla and Baker, Oregon. Seattle like Sydney gives you not only a reasonably good city that is well know, but for also their economic and transportation ties between the two places. If I said "Bicknell, Utah", you would say "what"? But, I added that it is "212 miles (south of) Salt Lake City", so now you might have a ready idea of at least where in the world it is, and how far it is to nearest major city/airport. Cheyenne, Oklahoma has economic and trading ties to both Amarillo and Okalhoma City, Bicknell has trading ties to Salt Lake City. If I say "Chetwynd, British Columbia" you might not have a clue. But if I tell you how far it is, and it what direction from both Vancouver, B.C. and Edmonton, Alberta, you might get an idea, and an easy way to find it on your road atlas of Canada.
 * 3) I say the more aminition you have the better. Arm the masses with knowledge. It is not unrealistic to tell the reader how far Cheyenne is from Oklahoma City, Pendelton from Seattle, Bicknell from Salt Lake City, Chetwynd from Vancouver, and Nimmitable is from Sydney.

Thanks for the compliment!
It's very nice to hear people have found my bot useful. Thanks for the compliment! If you ever have an article you'd like to be checked, I'd be more than happy to oblige. Cheers. &mdash; Ambush Commander (Talk) 01:25, September 1, 2005 (UTC)

Schapelle Corby
The article is outdated. Some sections are still in present tense and future tense, altough is is all over. --ThomasK 09:24, September 1, 2005 (UTC)

Red Hill Map
Hi, I notice you have made a cropped version of my Red Hill locality map. You have released this into the public domain, when the original was under the GFDL, I don't believe this is legal, as any derivative works have to be released under the GFDL. Martyman 11:58, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Australian National University
Just tried to take the precinct links out, but I kept getting edit conflicts cause I guess you were there at the same time lol, well of course you can take them out if you want. Cfitzart 11:17, 3 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Are you sure the Institute of Advanced Studies is commonly refered to as "the Institute"? I have worked there for over 10 years and I am fairly certain I have only ever heard it's accronym or full name used. Martyman 22:05, 6 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Hi again. I don't care enough to change it. The usage of accronyms around the university must vary, our school is often refered to as RSPhysSE and many of the others are refered to as acronyms in general conversation such as RSBS and RSC. I guess "the institute" makes sense in the article, I am just surprised that it would be a more common usage than the IAS. Martyman 03:09, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Uluru
Thanks for pointing out the Uluru image creator, I've suggessted he apply an actual licence to the image.--nixie 01:16, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

The Olgas is probably the more common name for that feature, but I definatley think Uluru should stay at that name.--nixie 01:44, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Crab pic
We think that the crab in the picture is Ocypode cordimana, there's some more info on it here if you're interested.--nixie 04:01, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
 * That second pic is really nice, great composition. It might even make a featured picture.--nixie 11:44, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your welcome.
Many thanks for your welcome to wikipedia. I have been a user for years, but haven't previously contributed anything. I plan to do so from now on, particularly in the area of Indigenous Australians. All the best, Rayd8 22:40, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Uluru
I have added a comment to Talk:Uluru re the photo copyright. The photos are not mine, my mistake. I am also adding a note to User talk:lee M. Pmurray bigpond.com 01:53, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

User Categorization
You were listed on the Wikipedians/Australia page as living in or being associated with the Australian Capital Territories. As part of the User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Wikipedians in ACT for instructions. Rmky87 22:12, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Re: User Categorization
I know, I just thought you might like to know that that section was about to be replaced with: This section has been replaced by Category:Wikipedians in ACT.

I saw it on your userpage and couldn't think of any other way to say it. I think I decided to just message everybody anyway when I realized that one of the people so categorized (he[?] was at the top) had a link to Wikipedians/Australia...I think I'll stop here before this turns into a novel. Rmky87 22:33, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

RE: Australian Head of State Arb Com
Hiya AYArktos. I'm not entirely sure why you don't think this has been resolved? The Rfar was initiated against Skyring in large part because he would not accept the consensus. It was resolved among editors at Government of Australia that Skyring's (perhaps purposefully) flawed understanding/argument was incorrect, but that a view of the G-G as HoS was held by a large enough minority to be noted in the article - without extending it any credence. Astrokey's vote concurs with that resolution; I'm not sure why he chose to state it after-the-event. --Cyberjunkie | Talk 04:43, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism
Firstly, we haven't been "blanking" the vandalism in progress page - just deleting ourselves. Blanking implies removing large sections/all. Secondly, watch out for the 3RR. --203.173.8.12 00:49, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

24 hour time conversion no Canberra Fire entry
I converted the time entries to a 24 hour clock based on the Wikipedia Manual of Style concerning formatting of time.

''Times should be written in the 24-hour clock (hh:mm or hh:mm:ss). The 12-hour clock has a number of problems: it isn't used throughout the world; it often makes it harder to convert between different time zones; and "12:00 am" and "12:00 pm" are ambiguous.''

See: Manual_of_Style_%28dates_and_numbers%29.

That being said, I see no point in getting into a revert war so I will leave it as a 12-hour clock.

Epolk 23:58, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Ambitious project
Hi AYArktos! I greatly appreciate your help with my newest project. I seem to have come to an important crossroads. Before you go any further head over to my My Laboratory and read the message I posted there at the top. I'm not abandoning the project, but I need to come to some guidelines that would remain in place once and for all. I do appreciate your willingness to help me with this. Even though, it can be very tedious and possibly even boring. Jaberwocky6669 | &#x260E;

The reason I started this experiment was to possibly influence future policy. Failing that, the information is useful in determing Wikipedia's adminship idealogy. As for an intended audience, considering that WP is an open place, then anyone who feels that they may find our results to be useful may use them however they saw fit. A while back I asked if there was a peer review process for editors before they nominated themselves for adminship status. I didn't ask because I necessarily wanted to ba an admin. I still don't as I don't feel I could wield the mop just yet. BTW, I can't get over these amazing results you came up with! So, we don't have to do every single month (please say yes!) That would be awesome! But we would have to do both successful and unsuccessful ones right? Jaberwocky6669 | &#x260E;  00:54, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

You are doing some amazing work! While I am racking my brains over streamlining the tally sheets you've already got to the point to where you can draw conclusions! Awesome! You are a valuable cornerstone upon which this building relies! Jaberwocky6669 | &#x260E;  01:37, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Those are interesting conclusions. I noticed that there are far fewer unsuccessful candidacies so it will take more tries before a more definitive conclusion can be drawn! I hope to see you stick around even if you don't help out as much as you have been but if you would like to cool down I would understand. I am very happy with what just you alone have done. Jaberwocky6669 | &#x260E;  00:05, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

P.S. did you keep count with my tally sheets? If so could you get them to me so that I can keep them together in one place? Thank you! Jaberwocky6669 | &#x260E;  01:34, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Everything Linux
I was thinking this myself when I found the article. However, it is one of the largest Linux retailers in Australia (LSL is the only other one I can think of off the top of my head) and a VfD nom might get a lot of unfounded delete votes from both non-Australians and non-Linux users, as it is only really notable to Australian Linux users. Perhaps a straw poll at WP:AWNB? -- Chuq 10:56, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

My RfA
Wow, I seem to be running out of ways to express my gratitude, but I will express it to you right now for supporting my RfA. I will try my best to stay out of trouble. Denelson83 22:25, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Heartfelt thanks!


I, Jaberwocky6669 | &#x260E;, am infinitely grateful for your immense help over at RfA Analysis. You have taken something unwieldy and have shown me the way to tame it, to make it feasible. Thank you.

Redirects
Upon further thought, I realised that I was wrong on that count, as they're far more localities than anything else - and fixed them accordingly. Ambi 04:57, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

203.62.10.3
Considering their history shouldnt they be blocked?vcxlor 04:04, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Bali Nine images
I tried. It seems that very few things I am doing here is right lately...I am having some bad judgement on a lot of things. However, I changed the copyright tags of the Bali Nine. I hope those images are acceptable.  Molotov (talk)    04:32, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

My RfA
Thanks for supporting my RfA. I will use my new powers wisely! --Wikiacc (talk) 19:10, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Cyberjunkie's RfA
Hi AYArktos! Just wanted to thank you for supporting my RfA. I hope I will be able to live up to the confidence placed in me. --Cyberjunkie | Talk 04:17, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

JTV: I don't know how to delete the J.T. Vallance article. But, as I no longer object to deletion, I ask that you go ahead and remove it.Savaloy 10:28, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Jorgen Jorgenson
I first of all want to thank you for reverting the vandalism on my user-page during my absence. :) Well anyway, I've made some progress on the article, but it is still pretty incomplete, but I'll be able to complete large segments in the next few days. Holidays are sweet :D. Anyway, I didn't add it to the article directly, I think it needs more discussion, and another person who knows Icelandic could've sped up the process as well. Anyway, enough chatter, here's a poor[:'(] prototype: User:Eric Straven/Jorgen :) Eiríkr Rauði 18:06, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Dear AyArktos, I'm not really computer savvy ie: I don't know how to write html etc... just know how to use word etc... but I'm just wanting to know, is this the place I send you an email? I don't wish to have public discussions but need to clarify some points with you please.


 * Just a note, the dude above isn't me. He's anonymous or forgot to sign his name. :) Eiríkr Rauði 06:19, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

thanks for alerting me
I've entered my vote to delete. Rick Norwood 22:26, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

NLA PD Images
I asked for copyright advice from copyright australia about public domain images at the national library, and was informed that we could use the images from the website as they are in the public domain.

If you are scanning in from a book you have every right to post the images as high a resolution as you want. They belong to you as much as to the publisher of the book. Higher resolution images are desired for use in any future print version of wikipedia, please don't downsize your images. --Martyman- (talk) 23:43, 1 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Woops, I meant to post that on Astrokey's page.. Any I wouldn't recomend copying an entire collection of public domain images as I believe under US copyright law there is some rule about protection of collections or something.. --Martyman- (talk) 23:45, 1 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Can you please crop the NLA footer out of images before adding them to Wikipedia. Thanks, Ambi 00:34, 3 November 2005 (UTC)


 * It's based on aesthetics; no other article I've ever seen on Wikipedia has photos marked by other websites; it looks like they've just been ripped off the web and slapped into an article without much thought, and really does reflect poorly on the article. The source is already acknowledged in the summary; it's just not needed in the image itself. Ambi 01:02, 3 November 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm not saying that you haven't - I'm saying that it looks as if you haven't. It looks really unprofessional, and I just don't see any justification for it. Ambi 01:40, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Intelligent design
Please do archive recent/discussions in progress. I just archived 2/3 of the talk; and talk pages need not conform to 32k limit. Furthermore the articles was just mentioned on an NPR radio program, which pointed to the discussion page as a key part of Wikipedia's strength. With nothing there it may (initially) be confusing to new users. - RoyBoy 800 23:19, 3 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Heh, yeah I meant do not. I did say aggressive, and I also lamented I could not reduce it further. The reason I did not take it further is because not fragmenting discussion takes precedence over file limitations. If there is even a possibility a thread is ongoing (as there was for everything I left since it was posted in the last few days) you leave it. As to reinstating some of it, I will reinstate everything, not out of spite... but because to not do so means more work for everyone actually involved in the discussion. - RoyBoy 800 23:42, 3 November 2005 (UTC)


 * PS: If someone does have that limitation with their browser, then we tell them to edit sections only. Problem solved. - RoyBoy 800 23:44, 3 November 2005 (UTC)


 * On second thought, I won't bother. If there are issues we can adapt. Didn't care much for that discussion anyway. :"D Just remember, don't fragment discussions. - RoyBoy 800 23:48, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Red Hill Additions
Hi, what was your copyright justification for your additions to the Red Hill article on 13:17, 10 August 2005 from the pedal power site? --Martyman- (talk) 11:24, 5 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Umm, just because other people have also stolen the text doens't make it public domain. Also admitting you have made a copy and paste copyright violation doesn make it legal. The only way you could use a solid block of text like that would be to include it in the article as a quote from the other source. ie. Evironment ACT has this to say about Red Hill "blah blah blah". --Martyman- (talk) 20:55, 5 November 2005 (UTC)