User talk:A loose necktie

Some bubble tea for you!

 * Thank you for the bubble tea, one of my favorite beverages (and one I like much more than club soda, incidentally). Yes, a merger dispute does seem likely.  I have already begun a discussion on the reverter's talk page in hopes of ironing this out smoothly.  We shall see, but it is nice to know that anyone is paying attention.  Thank you for that!  A loose noose (talk) 02:08, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
 * You’re welcome. Personally I think that the beverage does deserve its own page. My reason for this per Wikipedia policy is that it is notably distinct not just in its ingredients and preparation, but also in the way it is refered to in culture. I frequently hear the term being used in pop culture as a drink for teetotalers and drivers and so on, and I think if sources exist then this could form the basis for a section in the article which distinguishes it from similar drinks. I’m not an expert in this field though so my opinions here carry little weight without correct sourcing. Edaham (talk) 03:12, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

May 2018
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 * My bad, clearly. I was assuming that since it was public domain, that attribution wasn't necessary.  But that is just careless thinking.  Sorry 'bout that. A loose noose (talk) 21:39, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

A page you started (George Ball (entomologist)) has been reviewed!
Thanks for creating George Ball (entomologist), A loose noose!

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Thanks for contributing this. Just FYI, having a species (or asteroid, or landmass) named after someone in itself does not make one notable, as scientists have been known to name species after their spouses, children, pets, or co-workers (see Notability (academics). However, in this case WP:NACADEMIC #1 ("The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources."), as well as the general notability guideline is satisfied by in-depth coverage and honors received, e.g. here, here, and here. I've added some more info, looks like this guy has had an interesting life!

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Deletion discussion about Jake Cruise
Hello, A loose noose,

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Launudry sour listed at Redirects for discussion
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 * There is no need for a discussion on this— I made a mistake when I created the title for this article, and the redirect I generated when I moved the article into the correct title should absolutely be deleted. Sorry about this.  I would have deleted it myself if I could have done so (could I have done so??).  A loose noose (talk) 23:30, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem. It's been taken care of. Natureium (talk) 00:02, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

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AfD
You seem to be obsessed with deleting heavy metal music raleted articles. But really, please follow this and this before nominating something for deletion.  ~SML  •  TP  22:29, 6 August 2018 (UTC)


 * I understand why you'd think that. Actually, I am "obsessed" (not fair, really, but your term for it) with "deleting" articles that appear to lack adequate notability and that don't appear to be the subject of discussion in multiple reliable published independent secondary sources.  There happens to be what looks to me like a slough of them in the area of heavy metal music.  Please don't mistake my interest in keeping Wikipedia more free from fancruft and fluff pieces with no solid references and meager evidence of notability with an opposition to a music style.  Heavy metal is a kind of music, and its creators and participants are sometimes highly notable!  Then again, sometimes they are not.  It is the "not" that I object to, not the music itself (about which I actually have no opinion at all).  Cheers!  A loose noose (talk) 23:41, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I only said obsessed because atleast most of your AfD’s are for heavy metal articles. But please, even those a lot of those articles are unsourced or have little sources, a lot are notable (according to the criteria, they don’t need to be sourced in the page). The writers of the article are often the ones to blame.  ~SML  •  TP  15:06, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

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 * Heartfelt?? Random, certainly.... A loose necktie (talk) 08:52, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

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 * Thank you! I was thinking about WP:BRD, with you having taken the [b]old step of redirecting Ibex to Capra (genus), and me having now [r]everted it.  Would you care to [d]iscuss?  A loose noose (talk) 10:27, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

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Hello, I received this message and despite reading the COI wiki page I don't know what I am supposed to do or exactly what you need from me. I am happy to do whatever it takes. Could you please send me simpler directions? I need help. Sincerely, Chris "Chris, you have a COI you need to declare for the article on Fye. Please follow the instructions at WP:COI and place a COI template on your userpage asap. If you need help with that, please leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! A loose noose (talk) 05:56, 5 February 2019 (UTC)" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cboes (talk • contribs)
 * I read your message above— I am not surprised that you are confused by the instructions!  Okay, here's the simple version of what you need to do:
 * Because you have a pretty clear conflict of interest with regards to the article topic you submitted as a draft (Draft:W. Bruce Fye), Wikipedia expects you to "declare" this so that other editors can keep an eye on you! Mostly this is a friendly thing.  If a person is discovered as having an COI and as NOT having declared it, that's where the troubles begin!  Right now, you have nothing to worry about.
 * The declaration is done as follows: right now you do not have a user page. You are going to create one.  Click on any red link that says "Cboes" on it.  Whenever you click on a red link, you are essentially told "That page does not exist— would you like to create it?"  A new page will now appear.  There will be a warning on it regarding writing an article, etc.  Ignore that.  Now, you are going to copy and paste the following text into that page, exactly as it appears on your screen (do not copy it by editing this talk page— I am including extra code on the edit version of the talk page to make it display correctly for you, and you won't get the benefit of this if you copy from the edit window).  Here is that code:


 * Copy and paste that code, curly brackets and all, onto your userpage. Now, click "Save".  The page will reload and on it will now appear a template that makes your declaration.  That is all you need to do!  Give it a shot, and let me know if you have any problem with it.
 * Once you've made the declaration, you will be expected to only edit that article via edit requests on its talk paqe. Right now, the article is in draft space, so you don't need to worry about edit requests.  You are welcome to edit the article as much as you like for now.  If/ When it becomes published, however, and if you decide you still want to make additional changes to it, you will need to use the edit request function to do this.  You can read more about that by clicking on this link: WP:Edit requests.
 * If you've looked at the draft recently, you will see that it is much shorter and that a lot of your details were removed. This was my doing, and I want to apologize to you about that up front.  Your draft was declined, and I am trying to help you get it published (Dr. Fye sounds like a very notable person, and Wikipedia certainly aught to have this article on him).  Article reviewers want to look at the article and get a good quick sense of whether or not the subject is notable.  If they have to wade through a long list of book publications or personal annecdotes, they begin to have doubts, and may decline to publish the piece until it suits their style.  This process isn't always very fair, and you are left at the mercy of reviewers.  BUT...!  If the article makes a simple, honest, straightforward case for the person's notability, a reviewer can feel comfortable publishing it and not wondering if they made the right choice!  By trimming the article down, I am hoping it will now fit that comfort zone.  You had LOTS of information in there, but frankly, it was overwhelming!  You can work on expanding the article further once it has been accepted for publication (via the edit requests).  But the first thing will be to get it actually published!    That's what I'm helping with.
 * I don't claim to be super experienced, but I've been looking at a lot of Articles for Creation that haven't been published recently, and that is my take on what steps will be necessary to get this one through the door. It may take some time for a reviewer to come along and re-review the piece, but I am hopeful that the next time it is reviewed, it will be published!  And then you owe me a doughnut and a cup of coffee in Los Angeles.  And if I am wrong, well, we can have a look at that if the article gets turned down again.  Sound good?  I hope so!  A loose noose (talk) 19:52, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks ALN! I have completed the task. Fingers crossed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cboes (talk • contribs) 00:17, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Oooooo, one more quick thing! Whenever you edit a talk page, whether a user talk page or an article talk page, you should write four tildes at the very end, like this: ~ .  Then, when you save the page, the tildes will be replaced with your linked username automatically.  This allows other editors to look at a talk page and see who said what as they go down the page, which can be VERY helpful sometimes.  Your signature will kind of be placed there even if you DON'T use the tildes, but if you use the tildes it will be JUST your signature.  Give it a try sometime!  And welcome!  (tilde tilde tilde tilde!) A loose noose (talk) 00:39, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! Did I do it right?? Tomas User:Leachtomas


 * Almost! Since Tomas leach and Tomas Leach are treated by the Wikimedia software as two different namespace, you need to have a capital "L" on the last name there. Tomas leach currently leads to a nonexistent article by that name.  But otherwise, it looks to me like you did it right!  A loose necktie (talk) 04:17, 16 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Hey, you, where's my donut and coffee??! :P  A loose necktie (talk) 17:12, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Changed that...

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M8l8th
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 * Actually, those Google Scholar results are for multi-shell gold wires (which could also be single-shell wires, which makes the co-occurrence of "shell" and "gold" spurious, as the subject there is gold nanowires, not "shell gold") and to core-shell gold as in a core-shell network assembly that happens to have gold in it (which is another false positive for "shell gold", though the two words do occur together here as well). I don't understand the details of the chemistry all that well, but I found "Silica-Shell Silver-Core Nanoparticles"  (which has nothing to do with "shell silver" per se anymore than "Silver-Core Silica-Shell Nanoparticles" has to do with "core silica").  I will admit it does appear confusing at first glance!  Thank you for finally patrolling these articles I wrote months ago!  A loose necktie (talk) 08:01, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

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Re: Emily Alice Shaw
Thanks for your message. Some help with sources would be great. If you know of any better ones, please feel free to add etc. There are a few sources I added from newspapers etc, so notability shouldn't be an issue, but please let me know if any of the sources are not suitable. Jo Dusepo (talk) 19:23, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

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Safa Kabir
Brother, I am not doing such things. She is one of the best Models & TV actresses in Bangladesh. That is why I have given more than 20 references. Smnsbd1971 (talk) 09:16, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * References are always a good idea, but the article needs to be WP:NEUTRAL as well, which it was not. However, you have personally removed my deletion notification— this was a bad move, as you yourself also wrote the article.  The instructions made clear that if you wrote the article, you should NOT remove the tag but rather should make a statement about why the article should not be deleted.  You didn't do this (although you did take steps to make the article less promotional, which is great).  A loose necktie (talk) 10:24, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Deleting Ninjacart
Hi, you just tagged the article Ninjacart for deletion giving the reason of advertisement. I just removed the promotional content from the page. Can you please remove deletion tag.Daffy11 (talk) 09:38, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I'd be glad to consider it. However, despite the fact that you received a deletion notification, the deletion nomination does not appear either in my own edit history nor that of the article.  Which I find exceedingly odd.  A loose necktie (talk) 10:21, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Speedy?
I thought it was still April Fool's when you requested speedy deletion of the the soprano who was first to record the first act of Die Walküre. But you come with the next, with a template telling a user who created more than 3000 articles "If this is the first article ...". Can that please stop? Templating regulars? Obviously not looking where links go? Nor at articles in other languages? Where DO you look? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:51, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * My apologies— I saw a biography with almost no content and concluded it was worthy of quick removal.  If I had looked further I would have realized it didn't deserve that.  My bad, and again, my apologies.  A loose necktie (talk) 01:17, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of George Garland (photographer)
Hello A loose necktie It's interesting that another editor has done some work on this since you put up the proposed deletion, but I wondered whether you have been a teensy bit harsh even before that? The notability IS regional but there are significant press publications about the artist, and there are 70,000 historic images in the County Record Office archive. That is a considerably important body of work.

I wonder whether you'd be happy if the details of Window Press and the founders were perhaps removed? It is, it seems, the reason Window Press came about, I think, but one could argue that it is irrelevant to the biog of the photographer. I realise it also looks a bit odd having the Window Press wikilink when it doesn't exist as a page. Would you prefer if that got put up? let me know... Cazimir (talk) 17:36, 5 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi, Cazimir. I've had a second look at the article now.  My problem with it is that the sourcing doesn't seem to indicate that he is notable: the sources all point to places where his work can be seen, and that's great, but where is the discussion of Mr Garland himself?  Where are references that discuss him as an artist?  As a pioneer?  Where is there at least one paragraph of published text that talks about what he did and why he was important?  The article still doesn't seem to have these things in it, and I am not yet convinced that they exist elsewhere.  Thoughts on that?  A loose necktie (talk) 17:43, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks A.L.N, Ok, agreed. All discussion is in the books which are published prior to websites - is wiki happy with quotes coming in from them or Public Record Office exhibition material IF they can't be web verified other than their listings? It's a difficult one as his notability is partially due to his persistence and depth of study through a considerable period as a photographer of things which weren't the norm at the time; hence the pioneer nature you refer to. What do you suggest and I'll do some more research. Would getting some of his images into public domain i.e. released to wikimedia... help? thanks Cazimir (talk) 20:05, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

https://westsussexrecordoffice.wordpress.com/2017/01/18/bygone-sussex-the-photographs-of-george-garland-and-john-fletcher/ have a look at this one - I hadn't used it as it's a wordpress blog site (from public record office!) but it plainly links to the him being one of the important county artists.. but is a ref to this useable? Cazimir (talk) 20:09, 5 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Web accessibility makes no difference— your sources can come from any publication whatsoever, including those not available on the Internet, so long as they are legitimate sources and so long as SOMEone could conceivably track them down and verify them. Getting pictures released on to Commons won't make any difference— they do not make him more notable, only more easy to see.  Anything generated from a Wordpress blog won't count towards notability.  What you really need are publications that have been through some sort of editorial review or peer review process (like an edited book, or a peer reviewed journal of some kind, if they exist for this topic) which discuss him in depth (i.e., not just mentioning his name in passing).  Hmmmm....  Let me think on this a bit more for you.  I have to run right now, but will try to give this more of a response tomorrow, yes?  Thank yo for being willing to look into this further!  The article definitely still needs better sourcing, and the fact that it has not been deleted yet doesn't do anything to protect it from being deleted eventually by someone if the sourcing isn't improved!  Let's work on that!  A loose necktie (talk) 00:06, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

CSD and templating
I am not impressed with your excessive template messages on User talk:LouisAlain, not to mention that the articles, Erna Denera and Hermine Küchenmeister-Rudersdorf do not meet the criteria for WP:CSD. My Plain and simple guide to A7 has further information. If you are not sure that an article about a 19th century classical musician can be improved, may be willing to help. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  11:52, 7 April 2019 (UTC)


 * The articles are listed here, - it's a bit like Bishzilla's poq, only for articles. I am (too) busy with great people who died and have no article yet to do something about the tags and drafts immediately, but silently hope that people just will stop dying. Thanks to LouisAlain for creating Ruth-Margret Pütz (on the Main page now)! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:59, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Superbloom
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DYK for Superbloom
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Nadezhda Nadezhdina
Nice article...but there's apparently a bit of a discrepancy regarding her birthdate. Not sure whether 1904 or 1908 is correct - other Wikis vary, and I don't speak any of the languages involved so I can't check the sources. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:18, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Hm.... Russian Wikipedia says 1904, but the Dance Encyclopedia  says 1908 (and gives two dates, one for what I believe is the old calendar, one for the new, 21 May vs 3 June). Then this source says 1904 again, and then this one says 1908 again.  These are all supposedly reliable sources of information on her.  I don't speak Russian either, but a lot can be accomplished with google translate...  But where do we  go??  A loose necktie (talk) 01:27, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I'd put both, in both the article and the infobox, and categorize as "Year of birth uncertain". -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 01:54, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion declined: Puteri Muslimah Asia
Hello A loose necktie. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Puteri Muslimah Asia, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''Going by how many Google News hits exist, this might well be a significant contest. Please take it to WP:AFD instead if notability cannot be established.''' Thank you. So Why  07:16, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Why was my article removed?
I made an article for the page 'Dayshell (album)', and i'm a little confused as to why you removed it. The reason you put was "redirecting non-notable album to band". I don't see how the debut album for a band is non-notable. Thank you for the reply, I'll try to find better sources for the article. And apologies for not signing my message, I'm still a little new to Wikipedia and am still figuring things out. Comedic Griffin (talk) 02:57, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, Comedic Griffin, I redirected the album you mentioned to the band because the album did not appear to qualify as notable in and of itself— the Rocksound link said nothing at all about the album, the review at HitTheFloor appears to have been submitted by a site reader (rather than a paid member of their staff), and the Allmusic link also says nothing about the album other than list its contributors (i.e., there is no discussion of the album per se). The best reference was the first one to AltMusic, but we need more than a single reference to establish independent notability for an album.  There are some subject specific guidelines about albums here which explains what kind of coverage an album has to have to qualify as notable if it does not meet the requirements of the general notability guidelines.  Now, having said all that, you are welcome to undo my edit by visiting this link and clicking on the "Undo" option for my edit.  This will restore your original article.  However, if you do this, I strongly encourage you to be prepared to provide more solid referencing or the article might get redirected once again (but not by me!).  The refs aught to be formatted according to the info located at Citing sources (including author's name, date of publication, title of page/ document, etc., not just an HTML link to where it is located) and they need to show discussion of the album, not just verify that it exists.  I know that there are a LOT of album articles on Wikipedia, many of them for albums that are probably not really notable, and I didn't meant to single yours out.  Please let me know if you have any additional questions or concerns, and please sign your talk page messages (on any talk page on Wikipedia, whether an article talk page or a user talk page) with four tildes (like this: ~ ) which will automatically be converted into your username so that I can quickly and easily see who said what, yes?  Thank you!  A loose necktie (talk) 01:33, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I can tell, and you are doing fine! Good luck!!  A loose necktie (talk) 10:50, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Greenhouse-effect-t445.svg
Hello. Sorry, but: Your image may be a quality work, and I think it would be great if "greenhouse effect" wasn't a misnomer. Unfortunately, it is. The big "GREENHOUSE" word alone (without "effect") in the picture is just a big fat no-no (no, the atmosphere isn't a planet's greenhouse glazing; no you cannot suggest it is).

That's why, despite obviously lower quality, the previously used image remains better: Because it illustrates the caption "The ability of the atmosphere to capture and recycle energy emitted by Earth's surface is the defining characteristic of the greenhouse effect", which your image doesn't (yet).

I hope you are willing to change your work, so that it emphasizes the greenhouse effect recycling (with, or without numbers, this is not important)? In between I'll revert to previous image. Cheers. Gem fr (talk) 17:37, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
 * So, if I added the word "effect" or removed the word "greenhouse", you would find the image acceptable? A loose necktie (talk) 16:55, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I did not elaborate my thought, but as you have me do it now, here it is. Methink there are 2 main points
 * have some cycling arrows;
 * remove all words, put some symbols on arrows and the cycle; this, for easier internationalization.
 * I dare add, if you allow me
 * arrows should be, if not to scale, at least in the proper order: only 1/10 of radiation from the surface make it to space, back-radiation are much bigger, even bigger than direct solar energy (strangely enough)
 * some arrows, or at least some labels, are optional; we don't really care about reflected energy for instance
 * Also, ask other people (talk page is just for that). My opinion is just that, other people's is just as relevant.
 * my 2 cents Gem fr (talk) 12:39, 25 June 2019 (UTC)


 * I have been considering your comments, here are some of my own concerns:
 * You ask for cycling arrows. My problem with this is that it misrepresents the way that energy travels.  Energy may get moved around from place to place in a cyclical fashion, but it travels in more or less straight lines.  Therefore here I have used zig-zags instead of loops— they better reflect the actual processes that are taking place.  Many, many diagrams showing the greenhouse effect use straight lines, not loops or circles with arrows on them.
 * You have suggested I remove all words for better internationalization. This is not a bad idea.  However, the image you put back in place of mine is itself full of [English] words, making it, if anything, no better than my image in this way.  I have used rather few words, and tried to keep  my labels simple and brief.  Surely this is enough here.
 * "We do not care about reflected energy, for instance..." Except that reflected energy is one of the things commonly depicted in diagrams of the greenhouse effect, so while it may not contribute to the warming of the earth, it does account for where some solar energy comes and goes, which may be helpful to the reader.  If there are other aspects of the diagram that you feel misrepresent what is going on, please let me know.  That we do not "care" about a particular part of the process doesn't seem to me like reason to exclude it, especially inasmuch as I hope my image can be used for many articles related to the greenhouse effect and solar radiation.  Leaving off this kind of detail limits the potential use of it elsewhere.
 * You have said this is just your 2¢, but you have also removed my image and replaced it with a former one. That makes you more than offering an opinion, it makes you the arbiter of which image is better to include and which is not.  Offering 2¢ would be telling me your thoughts but not changing out the image!
 * Please let me know your thoughts on these things. Thanks.  A loose necktie (talk) 20:38, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I meant, not a single arrow in circle form, but rather several arrows (straight, zig-zig, or slightly curved) arranged in circle, each beginning where the preceding ended. This is what the GE is all about.
 * I agree that the current image shows its age, is not that good, including for internationalization, and yours as potential to be better (if I thought otherwise I would just have told you to just stop trying).
 * reflected energy has no part in the greenhouse effect: this energy just doesn't enter the system. So we can, and must, skip it. It does matter for Earth's energy budget, which is an entirely different (although related) matter, with its own images. An image-fits-all related topics seems highly improbable (and undesirable) to me
 * that was my 2¢ about your improving your image, not about which one is better between the current used and your proposition. I stand to my view that the former is better than the latter. Now, then again, other people have their say, and can be asked through the talk page.
 * Hope it helps. Gem fr (talk) 22:31, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 * How would you feel about having a friendly WP:RfC on the topic? I think we could use some input from some more people.  We can present it as a joint offering, not as editors in opposition.  Could be very useful for both of us!  What do you think?  A loose necktie (talk) 00:48, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * seems good idea. Although I have rather work to bring closer our respective ideas before doing that Gem fr (talk) 13:17, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Greenhouse-effect-t2.svg|thumb|320px|right]]On that note, please check out my latest version of the concept. I have simplified it greatly. Please share your thoughts. I have made it internationalizable (is that a word??), have removed the greenhouse label altogether, have reduced the number of arrows, and have only shown the energy shifts that take place within the atmosphere, not those which do not affect this (i.e., I have removed all reflected energy arrows).  I have not run it by the Q.I. folks at Commons, but that isn't necessary to become a lead image, of course. (To what extent, do you think it is worth indicating that water vapor in the form of clouds both reflects solar energy and traps it?  It does both, and maybe this is worth making more evident.) A loose necktie (talk) 20:36, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Am wondering if you read my last message there. Thoughts?  A loose necktie (talk) 02:20, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * My apologies, I indeed didn't. I like simpler things, and I find it interesting the highlight on the physical mechanism with molecules, and the fact that you stripped the image of most energy arrows except those which matter most for the effect. I also like the color switch of the solar energy into redish surface radiation. And the way radiations arrows chain, even though it doesn't make a cycle. This image is good to publish for me, provided you make the radiation arrows from greenhouse gases bigger (remember that the surface gets almost twice as much energy from the atmosphere as it from the direct solar radiation). Thanks for the effort, Methink it was worth it. Gem fr (talk) 06:11, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

A7 on Fadlan Hazim
Hi A loose necktie -- I've declined this A7 speedy, as multiple clear claims are present in the article, so much so that I wonder if it was an error? Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 02:54, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Article for deletion : Guillaume Bianchi
Dear User:

I do not know the regulations about Sportsmen, but Guillaume Bianchi is one of the best Italian fencers and not only a Silver medalist at Universiade (he also won the Gold). But above all, he already god a podium at the World Cup : and all the fencers that reach the podium at the World Cup, or some international level, seem, for my humble opinion, notorious. But you know the regulations better than me… let me know if I am wrong. Yours.-Binbaksa (talk) 09:36, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Your "deletion proposal" for bicycle magazine
I was really interested in the reactions. Of course you are right to ask for references. I mean, how else could people be sure that we are not distributing alternative facts here, right? But first of all, I would be interested in your verdict about automobile magazine (which appears to have existed without fundamental debate for well over 10 years now). I would really be interested how you think the two articles are any different in terms of their persuasiveness. It certainly has nothing to do with the dominance of cars and the relative irrelevance of human-powered bikes in Western societies, ... or does it? -- Kku (talk) 20:14, 11 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Which is a good argument for converting THAT article in to a redirect as well, actually. My intention here was to suggest that having a Wikipedia article titled [anything] magazine, without reference to a specific magazine, isn't terribly useful and doesn't convey anything to the reader, never mind the difficulty in specifying references that support a claim of notability for such an idea.  If not outright deleted, the idea of redirecting such "magazines" to a category or list of such magazines seems to make a good deal more sense to me than having a stub article on a concept for a class of magazines.  Let me know if you agree.  A loose necktie (talk) 20:23, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Visibly for deletion
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Stephen Uhalley
I saw you prodded this. Did you conduct a search online? I see lots of possible scholarly sources. Please consider fixing the stub. Bearian (talk) 14:52, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I added two cites and de-prodded Stephen Uhalley. Please take this matter to WP:AfD, if you wish. Bearian (talk) 15:17, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Another editor reverted me. Perhaps you or could send this to AfD. Bearian (talk) 15:23, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I think he it is possible that he is notable.  DGG ( talk ) 21:58, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Tea and advice

 * Thanks for the advice— I don't think I am going to ask for the opportunity to do this a third time, my interest has been successfully quashed. But again, thank you for the advice.  A loose necktie (talk) 22:45, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

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What is your rationale for non-notability of the Thelonious Monk albums?
What is your rationale for non-notability of the Thelonious Monk Mini-LPs????? These were the albums as Monk originally intended them to be heard, in the primary format that existed at the time.

You just wiped out a whole day of my work? What is my recourse? These are historically crucial albums which have recently been re-released. Please explain. Thank you. Sojambi Pinola (talk) 00:43, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

It is my hope that by reallocating this release's chronology as that of a "Mini-LP", much as the Beatles have a separate Wikipedia EP chronology which sometimes intersects their LP chronology, I can avoid the record being designated as "not notable".

This required a lot of additional work, and the work was done with a lot of thought. I do think it clears up the chronology, which was admittedly made a little complex by my prior navigation attempt. I hope you are satisfied. Please engage with me if you aren't, instead of wholesale unilaterally deleting the page without discussion or communication with me. Thank you.

I will add that, at all times, this and the similar Monk "mini-LP" pages included at least 4 links to outside sources on legit "notable" websites discussing the albums. This sort of unilateral redirection/deletion, without discussion, verges on trolling, vandalism, or harassment; and to zap 4 interlocking pages, on the same day that they are first being assembled, seems not in the spirit of knowledge and information that I believe Wikipedia to be about. I intend to monitor this sort of action closely, and to take appropriate steps to protect these AND OTHER pages if this behavior continues. I've done it before and I'll do it again. Thank you for your understanding. Sojambi Pinola (talk) 17:43, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

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Malcolm Levy page
Hello! Last year I had tried to add a Wikipedia page on Malcolm Levy, an artist I wrote about in my second book (with Dartmouth College Press). You fairly nominated it for deletion, but then time got away from me before I could do much, and the page was deleted because I didn't make any changes. I wanted to pass you a note that I plan to try again in the coming while, just organizing the right tone and citations, and I'd appreciate your feedback if it comes to that. Thanks! More soon.

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 * I'd welcome the opportunity to have a look at your published sources and give you my two cents! A loose necktie (talk) 03:43, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

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Draft:26 personas para salvar al mundo
I have no objection to conducting the acceptance of this draft, though doing so is against my instincts. AFC reviewers have a guidelkne, which is only to accept drafts which we view as having a better than 50% chance of surviving an immediate deletion process. Conversely our role is not to insist on illusory perfection prior to acceptance.

I imagine I will attract some flak by doing so, but I'm old and ugly enough to weather that. In truth I am interested in whether your interpretation holds sway when the article is live. Fiddle  Faddle  16:40, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * From one old and ugly though less experienced editor to another: I thank you for the opportunity to let us see where these chips may fall and on whose head they may land. I suspect, in the end, you will be proven correct.  Wouldn't it be refreshing if you weren't this time?  :-) A loose necktie (talk) 16:49, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , i'll be very interested and happy to be proved incorrect. I feel it to be a wr=orthwile experiment. I predict speedy deletion almost immediately, perhaps slightly biased by an inappropriate deference to my track record here Fiddle   Faddle  16:53, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * you might consider tagging it that i may be capable of being enhanced frm the corresponding https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/26_personas_para_salvar_al_mundo article.  Fiddle   Faddle  16:51, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Done! Also, "The snail shows that mathematics and nature are alike (...) there is an order that may have a message." I don't know what that means, but it feels appropriate right now. From the article under discussion. Cheers! A loose necktie (talk) 17:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , my first prediction has come true. I am wholly neutral in this and will take no part Fiddle   Faddle  17:57, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * You predicted it, and you were not wrong! Am trying to keep my blood pressure low.  Have now thrown in four sources and asked Theroadislong, whom I can see has a very long and very widely respected history of editing Wikipedia, to reconsider his nomination.  Please do maintain your own neutrality, your role here is to observe and take note, as you have said, and mine is to test my mettle in this fire (not even my damn fire!) A loose necktie (talk) 19:11, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * If I may counsel careful restraint and the firing of the correct arrow at the correct time? Fiddle   Faddle  19:17, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Of the references, have you clicked them? For me the reviews all fail. The top one confuses me. Translation is no problem, google translate is good enough Fiddle   Faddle  19:21, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Adding four sources that fail verification is not likely to make me reconsider my nomination! Not sure what your game is here? Having an article in the Spanish Wikipedia has no bearing whatsoever on the english draft, they have different guidelines entirely. Theroadislong (talk) 20:32, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, they (the different wikis) have different guidelines. But are they not meant to be at least similar guidelines?  Do we routinely consider other wikipedias to be unfounded sources of information?  There were at least eight more sources I could have added from the Spanish Wikipedia-- did NONE of them conform to the English Wikipedia's standards for sourcing? My "game" is only this: we have a guideline which seems to contravene what looks like accepted policy.  I find that irksome.  Do you not?  A loose necktie (talk) 23:54, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Fiddle, my man, this deletion discussion is getting annoying and long! But I am keeping at it! A loose necktie (talk) 05:17, 27 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Time will tell. Currently I predict it will be closed as no consensus which is tantamount to a full keep. I suggest you ignore stand let it run Fiddle   Faddle  07:10, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * And it seems you were indeed correct! I am not sure I helped by participating the way I did, however.  It's just damned hard to bite my tongue sometimes.  Should have taken your advice on that more to heart.  A loose necktie (talk) 04:03, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, it has survived for the moment. However, a second deletion discussion may see it on its way. The question is, what has been proved? Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 06:24, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree, its position is tenuous, and a second nomination might topple it. What I hope has been proved is that the subject has been talked about (in the Spanish speaking world) by enough published sources to indicate it is verifiably notable, though the pre-existence on the Spanish Wikipedia seems to be the only "real" thing holding this in place (as delicate as that is). But isn't that enough?  Do you think?  And do you think it likely to be challenged a second time?  A loose necktie (talk) 06:47, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It's very hard to know either answer.
 * Took a wee while, did it not? Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 07:47, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * How long we been at this? 'Tis been almost exactly one month now!  Some wheels turn slowly.  Thank you for taking a chance on a dubious draft.  I think it was the right choice.  I will continue to think so.  Thanks!  (Hm. Perhaps I would even benefit from watching the series.  Certainly sounds rather interesting!).  A loose necktie (talk) 09:20, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

March 2021
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 * ✅ A loose necktie (talk) 06:48, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

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Closing move requests
Thank you for your help closing move requests! Please read and digest the closing instructions and use the correct templates to close these requests. The close you made at Talk:Killing of Vincent Chin has already been fixed. Thanks again!  P.I. Ellsworth   ed.  put'r there 23:23, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I realized after I closed that one that I did not have the ability to perform the move that I determined was the consensus. My bad.  Did I use an incorrect template when I closed it?  A loose necktie (talk) 03:28, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * So, I just finished reading over the technicalities of closing move requests, and I am probably not gonna do any more of those, I don't think. Was glad to assess consensus on Vincent Chin, but the "move" component is way more complicated than I realized.  No worries!  I am not even sure I am going to attempt many more closures right now anyway.  I think I handled correctly the ones I closed, but I feel like I should take a class or something first.  A loose necktie (talk) 03:54, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, it's not a problem, Aln, so just alter "Live and learn" to "Edit and learn" (we've all been there). As long as you make yourself aware of the guides and such, I'm sure you will do a great job here on Wikipedia. Again, thanks for all your help!  P.I. Ellsworth   ed.  put'r there 19:25, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Coup RFC
It has been more than a months since the last comment in Template talk:Coup d'état § RFC: Should the events of January 2021 be considered an "attempted coup" in the United States?. I think it should also be concluded as "insufficient consensus without breaching WP:SHOCK et al", as you said. Domestic terror it may be, but allegations of it being a coup is overwhelmed by emotion by many sources. -- Minoa (talk) 13:48, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I closed that discussion, and I agree with you What would you like me to do from this point forward?  Is this a request?  Please let me know.  Thank you!  A loose necktie (talk) 03:59, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Apologies for a link error in the original request. The error caused the link to not jump to the section I referred to. Yes, just do the same as Template talk:Coup d'état § Post discussion comment, to  Template talk:Coup d'état § RFC: Should the events of January 2021 be considered an "attempted coup" in the United States?. Best, -- Minoa  (talk) 05:08, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Woman lead image RfC
Hello Aloose, regarding your close, what did you think about discussing whether there was consensus on the criteria used to select an image? Kolya Butternut (talk) 01:15, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Your close at Talk:Woman did not address the most important point
Your closing statement -- and in particular No image might have been an outcome with greater consensus if not for MOS:LEADIMAGE. missed the central argument for "no image". Due to the challenges associated with selecting representative images, it was determined first that we should not have galleries of photos representing ethnic groups at the top of articles about those groups. Then, in a decision spurred on in part by people at Talk:woman saying it shouldn't apply there, that decision was then expanded to include "similarly large human populations". That discussion was held at a central MOS location, so per WP:LOCALCON I would not expect a single article to overturn it. Then we have here again a discussion at Talk:woman, where people have undertaken some feats of wikilawyering to argue that somehow the consensus that it's too problematic to choose only a small number of images to represent a large group should not apply to the selection of one image because the wording of those RfCs doesn't include single images (as though that isn't more, rather than less problematic). And that discussion is closed with MOS:LEADIMAGE trumping "no image," without even mentioning MOS:PEOPLEGALLERY or the past well-attended RfCs? Please reconsider (or edit your closing statement). &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 12:54, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Aloose, please see the discussion at WT:Manual of Style/Images. Kolya Butternut (talk) 15:00, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Unless this was recently added, MOS:LEADIMAGE even says this: Not sure how invoking LEADIMAGE somehow supports the position of requiring an image... (sorry I somehow missed this getting closed a few days ago) —Locke Cole • t • c 14:50, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

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 * Sorry, but it's been almost a month with no response. &mdash; Rhododendrites  <sup style="font-size:80%;">talk \\ 19:25, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Non-admin closure
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Sallow (color) (June 16)
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Reverting Mattress Image
I just wanted to drop you a note about the edit I'm making at the moment. Back in 2020 you swapped out the North American mattress dimensions image on Bed size. I assume that you considered the original image confusing, but I think your new one fails to improve the situation. The older image allows for a practical comparison of both length and width, while the new image really doesn't allow for either. The dimensions are similar enough that placing all of the mattresses in a row makes it impractical to visually compare length, and tricky to compare width (especially in the thumbnail size IMO). The old image is not perfect, but allows for some quick comparisons of "which is dimensions are larger/equal". It's a hard info-graphic to get right and I didn't want you to feel like the edit was churlishly reverted. I feel that the old image makes a better companion for the dimensions table it goes along with. 65.120.64.165 (talk) 22:44, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

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Tomás Matos moved to draftspace
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 * I understand you have relocated the article I wrote on Tomas Matos. Although the article was brief, I think you will agree that the subject of the article was discussed non-trivially in two major news sources that were given in the article-- the New York Times and NBC News.  Given that level of attention, I am not sure I understand your purpose in moving the article to draft space.  Is the subject notable?  If not, then the article deserves to be nominated for deletion.  If so, what is gained by making it a draft article other than preventing other editors from becoming aware of it and adding to and improving it?  You have described it as "not suitable" because it needs more citations.  It has citations.  Good ones.  Reliable, independent ones.  Ones which by themselves prove the subject's notability.  Draftifying it feels like deletion by other means, and that comes across as underhanded here. I guess I have no choice. A loose necktie (talk) 00:35, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * CUPIDICAE💕, I have now read over WP:DRAFTIFY carefully. Per WP:DRAFTOBJECT, I would like to formally object to the draftification of this article, and ask that it be reinstated and either nominated for deletion or tagged as a stub, etc.  Thank you.  A loose necktie (talk) 06:08, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I guess I can do this myself (or at least, I don't see any policy at WP:DRAFTIFY that says that I cannot).  It may be presumptuous, but then so was the move to draftify the article, I think.  According to what appears to be written there, this article should never have been moved into draft space in the first place, though please correct me if I am wrong.  A loose necktie (talk) 06:16, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * That's what I thought. A loose necktie (talk) 05:49, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

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Metropolitan Fashion Week moved to draftspace
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 * I know a deletion when I see one. It's a notable topic, someone else will have to create it now.  Thanks.  A loose necktie (talk) 05:48, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Question on RfC close
Last year you closed what turned out to be an important RfC: Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_165. While the general conclusion is incorporated in WP:DOB, the last sentence was not, Once a clear and consistent date of birth has been widely reported, the consensus is to update the information to reflect this. Can you point out some of the comments that led you to including that part? --Hipal (talk) 17:15, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * : Apologies for the egregious delay in responding. I closed that RfC quite awhile ago now.  I have skimmed over the discussion, which was somewhat contentious-- I did not come across any statement in it supported by multiple editors which included this exact assertion.  My recollection of my thinking at the time was that wording the closing of the RfC to include it was based on the existing policy we have on biographies which states "[a] Wikipedia [biography] includes full names and dates of birth that have been widely published by reliable sources"-- that is, Wikipedia biographies routinely include full names and dates of birth, and an accurate date of birth is important.  I certainly did not expect that to be surprising or confusing, but should not have implied that this assertion came from that particular discussion.  A loose necktie (talk) 19:52, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the response and clarification. That makes sense. --Hipal (talk) 20:18, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

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Draft:Shahjahanpur Municipal Corporation
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Speedy deletion contested: Michael Waldman (palaeontologist)
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Speedy deletion tagging
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 * Apologies-- I had tried tagging it once and the screen appeared to lock up. I refreshed the page and saw that it had no tag on it, so tried placing the tag a second time.  I thought it had not worked the first time, which is the only reason I "re-"tagged it.  Certainly didn't mean to tag it twice, that would have been foolish.  I see the promotional wording of the article has been removed. A loose necktie (talk) 20:13, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
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 * I'd love to, but there is nothing on Commons for this implement. I have several leatherworking tools in my toolbox, but I don't have one of these to photograph (wish I did!).  A loose necktie (talk) 19:27, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * That's okay, someone else may add one at some point. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 20:01, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Metropolitan Fashion Week


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Your draft article, Draft:Shortbow


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Discussions of interest
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Speedy deletion declined: Open-source intelligence
Hello A loose necktie. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Open-source intelligence, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: It looks like the https://www.cyberoneintel.com/osint website has re-used the content of Open-source intelligence for its own purposes. I note from its source code, it is a Squarespace built website, so very unlikely to host the original text. I do agree that this article is, let's just say, somewhat less than optimal. Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 10:01, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

zircon specific gravity
Hello, thanks for all your edits.

On the Zircon page you stated that "Zircon is the heaviest of any gem, readily sinking in even highly viscous liquids."

However, in WP articles and elsewhere I found

Zircon: Specific gravity 4.6 – 4.7

Cubic zirconia: Specific gravity 5.6 - 6.0 g/cm3

Did you have a source for that heaviest superlative? Or maybe the density of cz is overstated in the WP article? • Bobsd • (talk) 16:36, 23 August 2023 (UTC)


 * It seems you are correct, and it was bad form of me to make such an extraordinary claim while providing no evidence... Did you know that zircon was ONCE considered the heaviest of any gemstone? I suspected it was, and have added a link as reference to this info which, while no longer accurate, remains a very interesting characteristic of this mineral.  See the article, and please change the wording as you see fit.  Thank you for pointing this out to me.  A loose necktie (talk) 07:29, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for making the change!  • Bobsd •  (talk) 23:59, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Live insect jewelry
Hi there loose necktie — I'm not sure what you meant on | this edit with the summary "No reason given for change of name or title". I had previously changed the heading from "Opposition from animal rights activists" to "Response" with the summary "heading change since section includes both positive and negative responses", which remains true. By reverting to the previous version before mine you also lost | this edit which included a lot of good url fixes. I've set it back to my version. Retswerb (talk) 08:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Medicare Current Beneficiary Survey
Hi @A loose necktie, Hope you are fine.

on Medicare Current Beneficiary Survey, you can add just template (db author). After that the honorable admins will delete your article himself. You do not need AFDs for this. Thank you Youknow? (talk) 16:26, 14 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Now I know. You know? Thank you. A loose necktie (talk) 07:20, 15 July 2024 (UTC)