User talk:Aaron Liu/Archive 2

Question from Anthony Louiz on User:Anthony Louiz (17:04, 21 April 2024)
Hello how do i share my knowledge here --Anthony Louiz (talk) 17:04, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Check out the links at w-graphical! Aaron Liu  (talk) 17:13, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Komidano (18:30, 28 April 2024)
Hi there, are you able to help me build a userpage? --Komidano (talk) 18:30, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Sure! You can browse through Userboxes/Galleries and the User page design guide to get started. Aaron Liu  (talk) 18:43, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from ArthurTheGardener (12:32, 1 May 2024)
Hello there! I've created an article in my sandbox. Would you mind having a look at it, please? Any thoughts from you would be very welcome. --ArthurTheGardener (talk) 12:32, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look in a few hours, thanks! Aaron Liu  (talk) 12:53, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for this, and for your amendments. I'm not sure what to do now. Am I allowed to post it live, or does it need to be submitted somewhere for approval? ArthurTheGardener (talk) 15:21, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not done reviewing it yet, though I feel like the article would survive if you simply moved it into mainspace. Aaron Liu  (talk) 15:23, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you - I wasn't sure what the process was. (And I'm sorry for my impatience - of course I'll wait until you've had time to look at it all!) ArthurTheGardener (talk) 15:25, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Well, technically speaking, the process is just creating the page in main space and hoping it won't be deleted. But, as you've done, it is indeed best practice for new editors to ask someone else to look over their draft. Aaron Liu  (talk) 17:14, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you: I appreciate your advice. ArthurTheGardener (talk) 17:16, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I have some slight concerns over including the location in the bibliography, but there actually aren't any guidelines on using that parameter. I'd like to see some more actual reviews, but that can always be added after the article is created. Wouldn't you like to do the honors of moving the article into mainspace? Aaron Liu  (talk) 23:32, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If you think it's ready, then yes, I'd like that. Thanks for all your help. Do I copypaste the code onto the new page, or is there a shortcut, please? ArthurTheGardener (talk) 07:20, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Under "Tools", there should be a "Move" button. Aaron Liu  (talk) 10:54, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you! ArthurTheGardener (talk) 11:10, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * One more thing (the very last one of this topic, I promise!): I've moved the page, but I'm not sure if I've cleaned up properly afterwards. Would you mind please checking at some point, please, and if necessary, telling me what more I need to do? ArthurTheGardener (talk) 11:24, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * You could find and add some real reviews (preferably reviewers and outlets who have their own article), and write up a WP:DYK blurb before next Tuesday. Aaron Liu  (talk) 11:41, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I'l certainly try, thank you. And thanks for all your help in this. ArthurTheGardener (talk) 11:46, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Just one last question, please: I now have a redirect box to the article I put into mainspace in my sandbox. Should I delete this, or is it meant to stay there? ArthurTheGardener (talk) 14:35, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * You can do anything with your sandbox as you want. Aaron Liu  (talk) 14:43, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks: just as long as it doesn't affect the mainspace article.! ArthurTheGardener (talk) 14:57, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Yep! Aaron Liu  (talk) 14:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from ᎤᏁᎦᏓ (05:46, 2 May 2024)
Howdy Aaron. I'd like to know who wrote a specific line in an article. How can I do that? --ᎤᏁᎦᏓ (talk) 05:46, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * You've come to the right place! The easiest way would be Who Wrote That?, an intuitive browser extension that only works on articles. Otherwise, under "View history", there's a "Find addition/removal" tool. Note to not hold the edit against that person too much! Aaron Liu  (talk) 11:00, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Sayeed30 (14:46, 5 May 2024)
Hi Aaron, Hope you are doing fine! I'm passionate travellers and writer experience of traveling --Sayeed30 (talk) 14:46, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I am indeed very fine! Did you have a question? Aaron Liu  (talk) 15:13, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from ArthurTheGardener (14:58, 5 May 2024)
Hi Aaron, Concerning the photo on the Jendia Gammon page: one of my Facebook friends has a picture of her he took himself at a bookshop reading. He doesn't have a wiki account, though. If he gives me the rights to the picture, am I allowed to upload it and use it on the page, please? --ArthurTheGardener (talk) 14:58, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * That depends. According to c:Commons:Photographs of identifiable people, photographs of identifiable people only don't require their permission if it was taken at a public place. So yeah, you're probably allowed to, unless the bookshop reading took place at a private place. You can ask your friend if he would like to publish under CC-BY-SA 4.0, then upload the image yourself as a freely-licensed file, and put your friend's name as the author. Aaron Liu  (talk) 15:22, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I'll see if that works. ArthurTheGardener (talk) 15:21, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from R von Greyfork on Green Man (folklore) (21:05, 5 May 2024)
Hello there!!

How can I add an image or illustration under gallery?

Thank you

R. von Greyfork --R von Greyfork (talk) 21:05, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hey! If you mean adding an image Wikimedia already has under an actual gallery or gallery section, you can simply double click on the images inside the gallery. If you want to upload an image, check out the guide at Help:Upload or Help:Introduction to images with VisualEditor/1! Aaron Liu  (talk) 21:46, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Book page
Hi Aaron, I've been working on my first attempt at a book page (in my sandbox). I'm hoping it isn't too essay-like, and I've tried to include citations where possible, but when you have time, I'd love to hear if you think I'm on the right track. ArthurTheGardener (talk) 16:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It doesn't seem essay-like to me, at least not at a first glance. Congratulations on that!However, the first issue I've noticed is that the plot summary is wayy too long. MOS:PLOTLENGTH summarizes guidance; novels are recommended to not exceed 700 words, and yours is probably quadruple that. You also don't need to cite the plot, unless part of it is up to great interpretation as to what actually happened.The "Structure" section is probably too short to stand alone; I'd say it should be merged into "Plot". Same goes for the pattern, which should probably be merged into "Themes". Yeah, it's not exactly the same kind of theme, but... hey. (Also, even if it were a separate section, I'd put it before the reception section to bunch the information about the book itself together.) Per MOS:NOBACKREF, the Scent section should probably just be called "Scent". I also want to merge it but can't find a good place to, so let's leave it alone.I'd recommend you summarize the reception a bit (probably something like "praised for its prose and being 'evocative'" with certain quotes singled out (probably that of the Sunday and either Irish or Lancashire). I also wonder why you used a blockquote for the picture (‽) and used none of them for the reception.Speaking of the picture... on Wikipedia, media is usually added right before the start of the relevant paragraph, so that you can look at it while reading the relevant information.Now, let's talk about citation style. Not Citation style, but stuff like WP:REFPUNCT. Citations should be put after everything they cover; don't put one before and call it a day; that makes the following part actually covered by the citation look unreferenced. The exception to this is blockquotes, where you put a citation after the colon. (Inline quotes still follow regular rules.)Finally, for the purposes of user CSS customizabillytee or something, hatnotes should be made using some derivative of the hatnote template: in this case, for. Aaron Liu  (talk) 17:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you: this is all very helpful. I have to say I was concerned about the length of the plot description too, but I'd read somewhere that it had to be a full account, and not just a teaser - and this book has so much plot! I'll have another try. And thanks for clarifying about the citations - it makes a lot of sense. ArthurTheGardener (talk) 08:59, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Aaron, I've pruned the Plot section of the Strawberry Thief page to bring it to about 600 words, added a hatnote and followed your advice about block quotes, citations and reviews, as well as amalgamating the Morris and Scent sections under "Themes." It feels tighter to me now, but I'd appreciate any further feedback you could give me whenever you have a moment to spare. ArthurTheGardener (talk) 16:15, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Aaron, Thank you for doing this; it feels a lot clearer to me now, and I appreciate your time. I've been trying to find a non-primary source for the author testimonials, but apart from the fact that they are printed in the book itself, and on some retailers' pages, including Amazon, I can't find anything I can use. Would it be better to just take them out? ArthurTheGardener (talk) 11:19, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If we can't find sources, probably. Aaron Liu  (talk) 13:41, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I think I've found a couple that work, thanks: I have inserted them. ArthurTheGardener (talk) 15:10, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Is it okay for me to transfer the article into mainspace now, please? ArthurTheGardener (talk) 08:42, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Bold the first occurrence of the title and we should be ready to go. Aaron Liu  (talk) 10:54, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Will do, thanks. And once more, I appreciate all your help on this. ArthurTheGardener (talk) 14:39, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from ArthurTheGardener (14:51, 14 May 2024)
Hi Aaron, Sorry to bother you again, but I seem to have messed up my redirect - don't ask me how, I seem to have created a page called "The Strawberry" (novel) as well as the one I was meant to be moving into mainspace, and I don't seem to be able to revert it. Could you help, please? --ArthurTheGardener (talk) 14:51, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * No worries! Go to Requested moves/Technical requests, and ask to move The Strawberry (novel) to The Strawberry Thief without a redirect. Aaron Liu  (talk) 15:03, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you: I'll give it a try. Completely my fault - I overlooked the typo in the submission box! ArthurTheGardener (talk) 15:10, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

One last thing
Hi Aaron, I'm aware that I've taken more than my fair share of your time, but I'm trying my hand at a different kind of page (in my sandbox) and I'd appreciate it if you could have a look whenever you can. After that I think I might have the confidence to go it alone! ArthurTheGardener (talk) 13:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, as your mentor, nearly any requests are worth my time! Not sure why you're writing a flower article lol but I'll take a look Aaron Liu  (talk) 13:10, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * As it stands, the article is maybe too technical and I can hardly understand it. Wikipedia articles are mostly written in prose. You also don't want to just copy text from a source.Maybe the better people to ask are at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Plants. Aaron Liu  (talk) 13:18, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much: I enjoy botany as well as books! I've been editing some of the other calendula pages, and I noticed this one didn't yet have an article. I'll take another look at the wording and simplify it (although the other calendula articles seem to be in much the same style). Thanks for the headsup about Wikiplants: I'll have a chat to them as well. ArthurTheGardener (talk) 13:40, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Maphoka on User:Maphoka (18:50, 16 May 2024)
Hello,can I get publish anything specifically --Maphoka (talk) 18:50, 16 May 2024 (UTC)


 * yes you can if that will get more views Maphoka (talk) 18:52, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Maphoka on User talk:Aaron Liu (18:52, 16 May 2024)
Hello I've been waiting for u --Maphoka (talk) 18:52, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

My beauty is my identity
Our skin is our priority Maphoka (talk) 18:54, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Erm, what is all this? What publishing? Also, you should come to expect processes on Wikipedia to take some time (though not more than a day). We're not an instant messaging service. Aaron Liu (talk) 19:11, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from ArthurTheGardener (16:08, 17 May 2024)
Hello Aaron, I've still not completely understood how to move a page from mainspace without making a mistake: in this case, I think I've somehow created a user page for a nonexistent user named after a species of lilac.Is there a way to change this, please? And I'm still not sure what to do about the redirect links: should they be on the page, too, please? --ArthurTheGardener (talk) 16:08, 17 May 2024 (UTC)


 * PS: I meant TO mainspace, of course. I think senility must be creeping in! ArthurTheGardener (talk) 16:09, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Just like before, you should move the thing to the correct location using the same button and ask WP:RM/T if you can't. To delete redirects that would not be useful at all, you can use db-error or db-g7. Aaron Liu  (talk) 20:51, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'll try that. ArthurTheGardener (talk) 22:17, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Robby Roeplall (13:41, 19 May 2024)
Hi sir Aaron Liu,

I want to make Wikipedia information page for mr. Robby Roeplall so that people can consult his page for information. Can you please help me to initiate this? --Robby Roeplall (talk) 13:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hey, creating an article about WP:YOURSELF is an extremely bad idea per the link in this sentence. I really doubt that you meet our criteria for inclusion. Aaron Liu  (talk) 13:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from ArthurTheGardener (15:46, 26 May 2024)
Hi Aaron, Today I came across an "invisible comment" for the first time (on a page devoted to the mulberry plant). I can't work out why it's invisible - or what purpose it serves.Can you please clarify? --ArthurTheGardener (talk) 15:46, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * In VisualEditor, you add one by selecting the option under "Insert". In source mode (which I vastly prefer, but you do you!), you add it like  . These are usually for warning editors to not to make a certain change. On the Morus (plant) page's citations, an empty author parameter is used to stop the citation templates from erroring, and a comment is inserted to inform the editors that this is not an error. Aaron Liu  (talk) 01:36, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I see; thanks for satisfying my curiosity! ArthurTheGardener (talk) 19:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from ArthurTheGardener (18:58, 30 May 2024)
Hi Aaron, me again, I'm afraid. I've created a draft article Draft:Dogs of War and I realize that I need a disambiguation hatnote, but there are so many other uses of that phrase, and I don't know how to include them all. Could you help, please? ArthurTheGardener (talk) 18:58, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * You can use other uses with the first parameter set to The Dogs of War. Template:Hatnote templates has a list of every hatnote template out there. Aaron Liu  (talk) 21:18, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * That's great; thank you. ArthurTheGardener (talk) 09:26, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Holom07 (14:03, 3 June 2024)
hello --Holom07 (talk) 14:03, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi, how could I help you? Aaron Liu  (talk) 14:32, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from ArthurTheGardener (06:42, 8 June 2024)
Hello Aaron, I've had one of my additions to the Joanne Harris page queried with several "failed verification" tags. I was trying to paraphrase the source, rather than quote it directly and risk plagiarism, but obviously I'm not getting the balance right. I'd really appreciate some advice on this if you have a moment to spare. ArthurTheGardener (talk) 06:42, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The generally rule is basically that if the original source said it best and most concisely, quote it. Though also avoid quoting too much on the source. Looking at the individual tags:
 * It's difficult to source "widely well-received". To source it, you need a reliable source that actually says she's "widely well-received", or something like that. An easy fix to this is to just change it to "was praised".
 * I'd recommend replacing to originality part with something like "According to The Guardian, she has attracted 'admirers of Harris's astringent, highly original and often subtly fantastic mainstream novels.'"
 * I'd recommend replacing "portrayal of 'impending doom'" to "'foreshadowing impending doom'". I also don't see where you got the thing about darkness within communities from. If the source says something like that, I'd recommend adding a quote of the relevant content through the quote parameter of the citation templates.
 * Also, Belbury is correct that you shouldn't use sources connected to the publisher for reception, as these aren't independent. Aaron Liu  (talk) 16:10, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you: that’s really helpful. I appreciate you taking the time to look at it. ArthurTheGardener (talk) 18:18, 8 June 2024 (UTC)