User talk:Aaroncrick/Archive 1

Blocking
I originally started out editing on Wikipedia making what I thought was constructive edits. I soon moved onto ridiculously stupid vandalism and other ridiculous edits. As my opinion of Wikipedia at the time was just very low. I thought it was edited by a whole bunch of hooligans that had nothing better to do. My opinions have since change and I now always ;) make constructive contributions on here. Also I was blocked for sockpuppetry. The other account was LukesLegends or something along those lines. It wasn't my account but I knew who the person was. Something came up a while later about some other 'LukeLegends 2' account which I'm not real sure about who's it is. But seems like it might be the same person. Not sure as I'm not with contact with him anymore.

Anyway ... Now I take wiki a lot more seriously and want to become the best editor I can be. By the Way I think the edits below were the ones I made when blocked, kind regards,  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 12:17, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Launceston
The census was for statistics in 2006 not 2007 as stated.
 * List of Mayors needs to be added to Launceston page not just Launceston City Council one
 * Expand the history section
 * Expanded media section such as Radio Channels Aaroncrick (talk) 22:26, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Population Statistics for past years. Aaroncrick (talk) 22:30, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Launceston Airport

 * More history as the Airport has been around for a long time. Aaroncrick (talk) 22:34, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Launceston Events

 * 4 AFL matches a year + 1 NAB Cup match
 * V8 Supercars (Tasmanian Challenge)
 * YMF Australian Superbike Championship at Symmons Plains
 * AAMI Launceston Cup
 * Launceston Christmas Parade
 * Carols by candlelight
 * Festivale
 * MS Fest
 * News Years fireworks Aaroncrick (talk) 06:31, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

AFL Players
What AFL players are from Launceston? Aaroncrick (talk) 06:31, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sam Lonergan
 * Brad Green

Devonport AFL players

 * Grant Birchall Aaroncrick (talk) 06:35, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Launceston article
Bidgee downgraded the article because the article is not in as good a condition as it used to be. This is most likely due to changes in the article in the last few months. More information is not necessarily better information. Too many tables and lists are not recommended, and sources for new additions are preferred. Take a look at Manual of style, Writing better articles, Guide to layout. In the specific case of the Launceston, Tasmania article, check out WP:WikiProject Cities, and look at some of the "Feature articles" or "Good articles" in that project. That is the kind of format, layout and content that editors should aim for. -- Chuq (talk) 10:19, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

hmmm still believe that it's a bit harsh Aaroncrick (talk) 10:23, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The only real answer is to make the article "better" - which may mean more careful selection of information that goes in as much as just adding stuff, even if it is cited. I think the article is too long rather than too short just now. And we ought to have fewer citations based on web sites (NOT on the whole good sources - in fact some are really bad) and more on the kinds of source we residents could access with a visit to the Northern Regional Library -(OK I am as remiss here as anyone). The history bit needs cites - and the information about Launceston's situational drawbacks (drainage problems, liability to flooding, landslips, smog etc.) needs to be restored with better cites. If you've tried discussing this directly with Bidgee without getting anywhere, and you badly want to improve the article's rating, then look at the helpful pages Chuq mentions above and work towards a real improvement - deserving a better rating is after all even more important than getting one.--Soundofmusicals (talk) 23:19, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Launceston
Oops can anyone help me with the Launceston government part. Aaroncrick (talk) 06:01, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Whats the problem? Moondyne 06:18, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks very much for fixing it. (Aaroncrick (talk) 06:22, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You're too kind.  Moondyne 11:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I think that C is about right for this article at the moment. Its not yet as sharp as Hobart which has a map, Education and Demographics sections, and has superior prose. It has improved considerably though and is not far off. Keep up the good work. I'd probably give it a B with a decent and properly licensed map. Moondyne 07:20, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

September 2008
Can you please stop deleting everything! If something does not have a reference try to find one or give 48 hours for someone to find one. You seem to be too busy trying to get everything perfect. Valuable information is being deleted. Yes half of it it correctly done so but the other half is just unconstructive edits. Aaroncrick (talk) 10:17, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Anyone can edit so you can't tell any editor to stop removing unsourced (including unreliable sourced) content since it doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Bidgee (talk) 10:21, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Well maybe it does. Everything should be sourced but make a note of it in the discussion. Talk about it first. Care should also be taken in deleting information that is obviously correct and has yet to be sourced. For example on the Launceston Airport Page, it was announced on the news that another flight will be added to the Melbourne to Launceston route. I didn't have time to add a reference and was going to do so, if no other editor did. I was suprised to see next time i checked it was deleted. You didn't even bother to look for a source or mention it in the discussion. Aaroncrick (talk) 10:27, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope you don't mind me interjecting here. Bidgee used the edit summery to indicate a reason for removal; that it was unsourced. It didn't just randomly combust. If you didn't have time to add a WP:Reliable source, why didn't you wait till you've located a WP:RS and then add it. I applaud you for your effort and your contributions just Assume good faith when dealing with editors. Mvjs (talk) 10:37, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * "Care should also be taken in deleting information that is obviously correct and has yet to be sourced." If it's correct then it should be easy to source but just because you feel it's obviously correct doesn't mean others feel the same. As for the removal the editor who does so doesn't have to look for sources since it's up to those who add content here. Also Blogs and forums can't be added as sources (See WP:RS). Bidgee (talk) 10:32, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Where have blogs and forums been added as sources? Aaroncrick (talk) 10:33, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 *  Tiger Airways will add another Launceston to Melbourne service, on December 15.  Wordpress is a bloghost. Bidgee (talk) 10:36, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

It's like talking to a brick wall to you. You have just deleted the Accidents and incidents part out of airport article becuase it's noted in the Melbourne Airport page. You have also no discussed it! You don't listen to what is said and you just carry on doing what you do best. I don't know if it's arrogence or vandalism or what? Aaroncrick (talk) 10:45, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Please remain civil and assume good faith. Accidents and incidents had no relevance to the article since it happened near Melbourne and not Launceston Airport, No discussion needed for the removal. Bidgee (talk) 10:49, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Stop it with the Please remain civil and assume good faith thing. It's getting annoying. How about "Please make appropriate edits and slow down with deleting everything". Thankyou Aaroncrick (talk) 10:52, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about the please remain in good faith thing, i didn't see that Mjvs said it earlier. Aaroncrick (talk) 11:01, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, you will be blocked for vandalism. Bidgee (talk) 10:57, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

What are you going on about now? Aaroncrick (talk) 11:01, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Mvjs (talk) 22:11, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Cardiff
What things need doing to Cardiff for it to achieve GA status? Thanks. Harris578 (talk) 12:13, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Good Articles
Hi, I suggest you familiarise yourself with the process of Good article nominations and Good article criteria. Mvjs (talk) 21:08, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Riverside High School (Launceston)
A tag has been placed on Riverside High School (Launceston) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Superflewis (talk) 08:04, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi. The speedy deletion has been declined and the article expanded a little to make sure that it 'sticks'. Kind regards, --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 09:18, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Trivia
A reference absolutely does not make something notable. A long standing Wikipedia policy is that trivia sections get tagged, generally because it either a) indicates the fact is so trivial and unimportant that it cannot be incorporated into the prose of the article and therefore is unworthy of inclusion; or b) the editor/s are too lazy to write it into some prose. I know what I'd be doing if I wanted the article to improve, but you need to decide for yourself which of these those 3 tidbits are, and deal with them accordingly. . Moondyne 07:37, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. Aaroncrick (talk) 08:27, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Unspecified source/license for Image:Launcestonpicturesfromcommons.jpg
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Speedy deletion of Country Club Tasmania
A tag has been placed on Country Club Tasmania requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Bidgee (talk) 09:39, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Please assume good faith in your dealings with other editors. Assume that they are here to improve rather than harm Wikipedia. Bidgee (talk) 12:01, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I second this. Country Club was already speedily deleted a few weeks ago. Michellecrisp (talk) 14:20, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Why? That stupid! Aaroncrick (talk) 22:22, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * How is it stupid? Wikipedia has a strict policy of notability, as any encyclopaedia would. Not every little country club should have an article in an encyclopaedia. Mvjs (talk) 01:11, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Please do not add content without citing reliable sources. Before making potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. If you are familiar with Citing sources please take this opportunity to add references to the article. Contact me if you need assistance adding references. Bidgee (talk) 04:49, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Hope you get it
It is a joke at Bidgees talk from me about population - as an ex queenstowner I are allowed to joke about the place :) SatuSuro 12:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * About right :) Thought you were going to say "close to a million heads" or something. Aaroncrick (talk) 23:58, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Nah thought you needed some humour from a current west oz ex queenstowner - speedies and xfds are a brutal usually :( SatuSuro 01:12, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Where do you live now? Aaroncrick (talk) 02:08, 27 September 2008 (UTC) WA (west oz) - will be passing through lonnie for a day or two later this year - SatuSuro 02:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Doubt much has changed from your last visit. Aaroncrick (talk) 11:09, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:Launny Aquatic Centre.JPG
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Copyright
This is your final warning: if you continue to upload copyrighted images and provide fraudulent copyright claims over them, you will be blocked from contributing to Wikipedia. It's not the first time you have been warned about uploaded copyrighted images. Bidgee (talk) 12:28, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Surely it's not if i took the photo. So your even saying that the Launceston Airport terminal re-development picture should be deleted aswell? Aaroncrick (talk) 12:41, 4 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll be listing that for discussion. Buildings when being built and completed (You must take the photo of the building but not a photo of a photo of an building) you can't take photo of or upload building plans and artist impressions as they're copyrighted as 2D works which Freedom of Panorama doesn't cover nor do you own the works since you didn't design it. See Freedom of panorama. Bidgee (talk) 12:47, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Alright then Aaroncrick (talk) 02:57, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:Aurora Stadium Upgrade.JPG
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Barnstar
Thanks for the barnstar, mate! It means a lot to me! Mvjs  Talking  04:55, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * That's cool. We may see differently on some issues but when it comes down to it, your a damn good wikipedian! Aaroncrick (talk) 07:40, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Photo
Do you still have the Flickr link for Image:Launceston air view.jpg? I can see if it's a free image and I can approve it. Bidgee (talk) 00:27, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * http://www.flickr.com/photos/philrickerby/1989676183/ cheers Aaroncrick (talk) 05:44, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I found it earlier but it can't be uploaded on Commons or Wikipedia as it doesn't allow Commercial use and have marked then for deletion. See the Flickr upload page for more information. Bidgee (talk) 05:48, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

I have changed the creative commons setting on the photo to put fewer restrictions on its use, if you are still wanting to use it. Philip Rickerby
 * Thanks very much. Aaroncrick (talk) 06:41, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded as a new name at Image:Aerial view of Launceston.jpg. Bidgee (talk) 07:17, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it's an important addition to the article Aaroncrick (talk) 07:24, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Copyright problems
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 * Aaron, I truly and honestly thought you had got over this stage. I think you are a good editor and it would be a shame to loose you. Wikipedia can not accept the vast majority of images found on the web. I am certain that administrators will have no hesitation in dishing out a block. You've been warned about this repeatedly. I hope you will take this on board. Mvjs   Talking  08:34, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I didn't just get a random image off the net, It was from Wikipedia Commons and i just cut a small section off the picture? What's wrong with that? I don't know all the rules so i may be mistaken. .I Found it here Aaroncrick (talk) 09:24, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Looking at the images description i noticed that it said it had been uploaded from another site although it also says "(All images of the Tamar valley were taken by the author and can be used without permisssion for any purpose)". So doesn't that mean what i have done is ok? Aaroncrick (talk) 09:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, you are most certainly right. As I have indicated on my talk page, your source information on Image:Launceston Seaport.jpg implies that you created this work entirely by yourself. You should definitely be more careful with how you state the the image licensing - you should have indicated that it was derived from this Commons image. I'll remove the copyvio tag. Mvjs   Talking  09:28, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks mate, you are right though i should have been more careful with how i stated the image licensing. Aaroncrick (talk) 09:32, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry for any grief I may have caused you. My faith in you has definitely been restored! It's fantastic to see you making great contributions to this encyclopaedia. Good luck with all your future edits. Mvjs   Talking  09:34, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't worry no grief caused, i was just a little worried that i had done something wrong. Aaroncrick (talk) 09:45, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Launceston Tourism
If I had some time I would but ATM I'm busy. I'll see if I can find some time tomorrow. Bidgee (talk) 21:15, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Symmons Plains
Those recently added photos - are they mobile phone pictures of a television screen? Or screen captures of TV? Because I'm fairly sure that's a copyright violation. --Falcadore (talk) 09:27, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, i'll delete it. Aaroncrick (talk) 09:32, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I just went through the copyright thing and i think your right and i'm wrong. I thought you could take pictures from tv on computer but it's the same as screenshot. Do you know where there could be more info on Symmons Plains? Aaroncrick (talk) 09:35, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * At the risk of sounding rude: Just Google It --Falcadore (talk) 10:10, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah there's not a lot though. Aaroncrick (talk) 10:24, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * List of Australian Touring Car Championship races has a few Symmons results. --Falcadore (talk) 11:13, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Launceston
Hi Aaron, in your sandbox you have a link to Launceston, which is a dabpage I keep an eye on. You need to link to Launceston, Tasmania for the place you mean. Best wishes, DuncanHill (talk) 03:08, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Peer review
I am pretty busy right now - will get to the peer review tomorrow. Sorry to take so long. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:23, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * B class seems fine to me, though I do not usually assess sport articles. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 12:14, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Launceston Copyedit
Hi Aaron. I've given Launceston a decent copyedit and cleanup, as you requested. I don't think the article satisfies the good article criteria just yet though. I would suggest that you source another copyedit or two before nominating the article for good article status. Congratulations on all your work on the article so far. Mvjs  Talking  05:11, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

York Park rating
No where in the article's talk page of the peer review do I see anyone stating that it should be B-class other then yourself. The article is still be class since the article still needs work on the content, sources and I suggest that you read Reader's experience and Editing suggestions WikiProject article progress grading scheme also someone who doesn't have a interest in the article (Since you have largely edited the article) to rate it. Bidgee (talk) 04:59, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Please link to them then (I've just read Ruhrfisch's comment above) as I'm only going by what I see on the article's talk page and review. Now Ruhrfisch said it seems not that it should be and have said they they do not usually assess sport articles. I've mark the issues in the article that needs fixing once those are fixed I would see no issues for it to be B-class. Bidgee (talk) 05:12, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Google Earth
I noticed a question on User:Mvjs talkpage. Google Earth images can't be uploaded on Wikipedia as the images are copyrighted. Bidgee (talk) 08:51, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Wasn't sure, thanks. Aaroncrick (talk) 08:54, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The best place to get satellite imagery that can be put on Wikipedia is from NASA World Wind. An example of it is the runway layout image of Melbourne Airport. Definitely not as high resolution as Google Earth but it's better than nothing. Mvjs   Talking  09:29, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. Aaroncrick (talk) 09:38, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

File:UTAS.jpg
Where does it state GNU licensing? Seems copyrighted to me. Bidgee (talk) 10:03, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * So Google sketchup images can't be used either? I thought you must be able to because it says you can download the model and edit it yourself. Aaroncrick (talk) 10:17, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

File:Inveresk precinct.jpg
Can I ask how you took this image? I'm always a little suspicious of self-made shots from above. J Milburn (talk) 11:11, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't, although i was rushing and didn't clearly state how i got the image. (Fixed now). What do you mean your suspicious? Aaroncrick (talk) 11:21, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

York Park
Damn you with your York Park! :-P I can't believe I'm researching and writing things for an AFL article - I thought Hell would freeze over first. I don't even know how I stumbled across the thing in the first place, though now I realise it was probably through the AU 200GA portal. I would be up for doing the copy edit, but I have difficulty editing on screen. I prefer to print the article and edit that way but I won't have access to a printer for a few days. I'll give it a go though, if you want.

If you are in the GA-helping mood, please also feel free to swing by Canning Dam - another GA nominee I've done work on, and Yarra Bend Asylum when it's finished. Yarra Bend is currently mostly in my sandbox though I'm hoping to finish it in the next week so we can get 200GAs by Australia Day. Shelbypark (talk) 07:59, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * A copyedit would be fantastic! :) Aaroncrick (talk) 08:16, 31 December 2008 (UTC)