User talk:Aaroncrick/Archive 7

Over 1,000 Tasmanian articles apparently not assessed
Its not a tragedy - its cricket perhaps? SatuSuro 09:38, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Nah Tassie is an acquired taste - trust is not too hot at the mo - still some moisture around suppose? SatuSuro 09:43, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah but quantity versus quality? I gotta have a look at them - dont be suprised if i throw a few questions at you about some of them for the next month or so - cheers SatuSuro 09:51, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Notability my lonnie friend - is a dogs breakfast - at times it gets put in cans that are square and octagonal at times :( - and should never be dictated by google only editors - they should be all put in triangular cans and floated on high tide into the bass strait triangle - but hey one has to be polite to idiots SatuSuro 11:11, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

BTW - read my user page - that should give you a good idea why I came back - two projects with lots of unassessed arts (or so it seems...need to check em) SatuSuro 11:50, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Bingo! - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AClimate_of_Launceston%2C_Tasmania&action=historysubmit&diff=329019404&oldid=298339996 - unnassesed for the Tasmania project - !!! SatuSuro 12:35, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * That's embarrassing!!  Aaroncrick  ( talk )  Review me! 19:33, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Scratched up Hotel Grand Chancellor, Launceston. Remembered tags!  Aaroncrick  ( talk )  Review me! 04:57, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

WAste of human time. When AWB is straightened out, Tinu can tag them based on teh cats. He does it for state-level teaskforces for India  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 05:23, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
Dabomb87 (talk) 13:39, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Re:Query
According to Tony1 from FAC, it should be No. 3 as opposed to #3, but he says that number-three works as well. The later is what I did for "4 Minutes". Btw how are you? --Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 03:37, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Ohhhh as you can see from my talk page, too busy with the Gaga articles and Madonna. Wonder when I'll start with Ganguly. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 03:47, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Hotel Grand Chancellor, Launceston

 * Re: User talk:Wiki ian

Good job on the article. I added an infobox (that needs the finer details filled in) as well as an AU hotels category. Keep up the good work. Wiki ian 05:37, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

York Park copyedits
I'm finished on that. A couple of queries:-
 * The 2003 World Cup Rugby Union fixture between Romania and Namibia is uncited. There must be an appropriate source somewhere.
 * Record attendances. You mention the 17,000 that came to Billy Graham in 1959, but no figures for any of the concerts (Ike & Tina Turner, Crusty Demons, Elton John). No figures available?

Subject to those, I'd say the article could be renominated at FAC. I would read it carefully first, though, to ensure that no unfortunate howlers have crept in. Good luck with it. Brianboulton (talk) 13:15, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It should pass this time  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) (Invincibles finally at Featured topic candidates) 15:36, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Bob Willis
I have no issue with you doing it. Appreciate it! Let me know what fixes are needed. SGGH ping! 20:58, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Wilfred Rhodes
Hi. I gather you have had a look at this article as you left me a comment! I've been working on improving it for a few weeks and I have been asking a few people what they think and what the next steps should be. I would greatly appreciate any comments or suggestions and I was also wondering, as I'm fairly new at this and don't know the ins and outs yet, what I should do about having it reviewed more formally. Any advice appreciated! Thanks.--Sarastro1 (talk) 08:51, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I would have done: Aaroncrick, p. 248. but I don't think there is a definite right or wrong way to do it. SGGH ping! 00:41, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

sneaky bugger
there are about a 1,000 other arts needing some help or hell before i get to the tassie stuff - just watch :( SatuSuro 06:16, 14 December 2009 (UTC) there is this vast ocean of editors with less than 10,000 edits who think they know everything - god help us SatuSuro 06:32, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

I say "ten" - i guess
Hmmm - i don't know really and I don't hold a strong opinion on it. I guess today if asked I would maybe lean towards "ten" rather than "10". Ask me next month, and I might say something different. I suggest you consult the MOS or other considered discussions about it. --Merbabu (talk) 07:08, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Re-sizing of infobox images
I'm guessing it was done to maintain the integrity of the page, ie someone had edited the page according to the size of the pic. Just wondering if that was the reason the image was blown up, so as to pixelate the image. Could you just confirm that for me.Stephen Hayes (talk) 10:06, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

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Featured article candidates/York Park/archive4
Hi Aaron. First, I want to say that you have done an excellent job on the York Park article. The quality of the article has improved immensely since its first FAC. Thank you for being so persistent and for taking the advice you've been given in a very friendly and collaborative manner. I was going to promote the article earlier but noticed a small issue with the citations to quotations. Will you please let me know on my talk page when you've fixed that problem? I'm not sure if Gimmetrow is going to run the bot today, and if he doesn't I can go ahead and promote the article when you are done. Karanacs (talk) 20:00, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Well done  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) (Invincibles finally at Featured topic candidates) 21:42, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed SatuSuro 00:16, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Now, yes
You gotta make sure you have the cats in the bottom to be able to qualify - I say - but hell - just an old fart queenstowner giving advice - I'd probably tell you to re-write the art - so be careful :) SatuSuro 00:16, 18 December 2009 (UTC) Yes - too far SatuSuro 00:24, 18 December 2009 (UTC) The bio art - yes he is from tas/lonnie/your patch - bbut cricket stuff - youd have banabucket reverting it on ya :) SatuSuro 00:25, 18 December 2009 (UTC) hahahaha - good one - I am alive and annoying well thank you - as for the wikipedia project I keep meeting 100,000 plus admins as I create havoc in the tagging department - I suspect if I tracked down every relevant article (and category) on wikipedia I shall catch up with them in mere weeks :( SatuSuro 00:33, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

I have not put a finger on it yet - the policy or the generally accepted practice - but i think there is a point in cat tagging where parent cats have the multiple cat tags - but children - as they are state/lower down the tree - are governed by the locality and not the other subjects they could carry - i could be very very wrong but SatuSuro 00:47, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

hyangon - delhi particularates are still in my system of this I can be sure - I cannot imagine what happens to cricketers in delhi - i havent seen them wear oxygen tanks - but they should :( SatuSuro 00:49, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

delhi and agra only - anyone going to the games has to have their head read and x ray their lungs before and after i say - the smell on the first day was atrocious - suspended sour soap aerosol particulates that you cannot get away from - yuk SatuSuro 00:57, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

ok gmail territory - my itinerary :) SatuSuro 01:03, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Improving suburb articles
This was my pathway to expanding Hamersley, a suburb about which practically no obvious sources existed but which I got to FA. I don't know how practicable these steps would be in Tasmania but here goes. Note stage 2 looks huge merely because I illustrated with an example. It took me about the time from when you wrote to me to when I wrote this to find out all that, so it's quite doable just by thinking out carefully what search terms to use.

1. Look at the local street map and write down a list of features. I'll pick Kings Meadows - things I see in the map are "The Manor Nursing Home and Hostel", "Mt Pleasant", a high school, Nunamina Avenue Reserve, Launceston Golf Course, Carr Villa Memorial Park and Carr Villa Flora Reserve, as well as a road Kings Meadows Connector. Google Maps tells me there's a placename "Sandhill" (which it may or may not have got wrong), Machens Reserve behind the aforementioned Manor Nursing Home, a neighbourhood shopping centre with a Coles, and a small industrial area on Innocent Road. Hobart Road is clearly the main drag. Find out if possible when each of the identified features came into being. This will normally, especially in a newer suburb, point in one direction.

2. Look on Archives Office of Tasmania search. While you may not have access to the items to which it refers if you're not in Hobart, the index itself is useful. I immediately found Kings Meadows High School was established in 1959. The land for it was rented in 1951. On closer examination, there's a hell of a lot of activity there between 1955 and 1962. "Sandhill" turns up a page of references, most of which however are false positives - but we do find a state school was planned there in 1894 and that Talbot St (linking High St to Hobart Road) was planned in 1881 and serviceable by 1884. Carr Villa had an "Isolation Hospital" in the 30s, in 1923 a road (Opossum Road) was built to the cemetery gates. In 1936 permission to build a crematorium was applied for. References to the Isolation Hospital stop abruptly in 1955. Mount Pleasant was a quarantine station first referred to in 1907 (but may predate that) although this more likely relates to "Mt Pleasant Laboratory" in neighbouring Prospect according to the map. Entering Machen turns up a 1990 reference: "Launceston Planning Scheme-Area 1-64-Land Bounded by Chifley, Machen & Guy Streets-Kings Meadows." Hmm, there's a Launceston Planning Scheme - does it have maps? If so, "1-64" probably relates to Kings Meadows or a part thereof. The location described is that of the Manor Hostel. "Kings Meadows Shopping" - turns up "TPM-212-City of Launceston-Kings Meadows Shopping Centre Planning Scheme 1977" and a couple of other early 80s refs. "Innocent Rd" turned up one link which was possibly its own construction, which seems to have been in 1951. The Connector appears to have been 1987-1990, but with major public works most archive stuff is *before* the construction/opening, so I'd say 1989-1991 would be a safe period to investigate. Note that at this stage you still have a bunch of OR and not much to base an article on - but have a heap of questions for further research which may unearth reliable sources.

3. Consult any relevant general history of Launceston books (esp any official ones by the local council) and local history section of the main library in Launceston and/or the local library of the suburb, armed with the above information, looking for substantiation of it. Try to get old street maps for, in the above example, 1955-1962, 70s generally, 80s generally and compare with a relatively current street map. Don't be limited by the above, if you spot something relevant, note it down. Note that the library may have stuff which is available only by request.

4. Oh, and try and get to see those planning schemes. Town planners have a habit of scribbling stuff in pencil on them, usually official file numbers, dates, changes and the like and those notes are useful in stage 5.

5. And old newspapers, too. They're often incredibly useful although can be vague and even biased (eg developer vs residents kind of biases)

6. See if you can get old Tasmanian Government Gazettes in bound volumes. I presume the main library in Launceston would have these - failing this, try the local university campus's library. (I wander into uni libraries of which I am not a student all the time.) Look up any specific information you've found in the above stages.

By this stage you'll probably have a pile of lost leads, some very useful information and a basis for at least improving the article. Stage 3 may actually be good as a first "scouting" step to get a feel for what is available too, then you can come back to it after looking up other stuff. With Hamersley the process got quite iterative as the gazettes turned up things I had to find on maps, which required more searches on records, which turned up more hunts for gazettes, which (etc etc etc). It took me 2 months ultimately. Orderinchaos 01:36, 18 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh and re demographics and politics, I did up Sandy Bay, Tasmania ages ago, it is usually just a matter of substituting the correct facts and figures and ensuring the joining prose makes sense :) I can generate these if you wish - are you looking at primarily Launceston btw or going beyond? Orderinchaos 01:49, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Wow - I hope you got all that permanently etched in the craanium first off? Clearly he hasnt been in lonnie recently tho :) I have access to stuff if you need help - i have some walshs almanacs from way back and a range of odd stuff - (ok I am in Wa but) - if you need some help - but better to gmail complicated requests - and considering how pathetic most tassie locality stubs are - hey you have an amazing range of arts to help get out of the mire :) SatuSuro 00:14, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

repeat after me
after typing it in - one - two - three - four tildes (oh is that it?) - sign - you silly little boy :) SatuSuro 02:43, 19 December 2009 (UTC) It alright I was watching some john cleese on a vid last night - its mild and simple in comparison (the insult that is) SatuSuro 02:50, 19 December 2009 (UTC) OK - something we need to fill - the new cat Midlands (Tasmania) SatuSuro 04:50, 19 December 2009 (UTC) http://catalogue.statelibrary.tas.gov.au/find/?q=midlands yeah there might be some in there SatuSuro 05:15, 19 December 2009 (UTC) Not many id put my bets on as a good coverall for the whole region - but for the south this looks ok http://catalogue.statelibrary.tas.gov.au/item/?q=midlands&i=39&id=70726 SatuSuro 05:18, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * gawd we starrt on that and I'd rather go to gmail mate - SatuSuro 05:21, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * BTW symmons plains article is geographically chaallenged - the lead sentence suggests that the raceway is in lonnie - since when is something that is off the map - and the other side (south) of perth and evandale - in lonnie?  bah there are so many small errors in tassie arts we could spend our whole lives cleaning the little buggers up SatuSuro 05:39, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Dumm bunnies - its on the midlands highway south of the location - just to keep the geographically challenged oriented to nearest large locality rather than anything accurate SatuSuro 05:47, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I must say I dont like squashing info into paras like that - separated items are easier to read SatuSuro 06:12, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Anyways thanks for help for getting the midlands stuff off the ground - SatuSuro 06:20, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Bangladeshi cricket team in Australia in 2003 Peer review
Glad to help and thanks for letting me know my comments were useful. I am actually interested in cricket, just can't understand it very well (despite several people patiently trying to explain it to me). At any rate, I thought the article was interesting, keep up the good work, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 06:00, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Action?
I know you said that I didn't need to reply but am I curious as to what action you refer to. What sort of action could be taken? Munci (talk) 07:16, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Bob Willis
Hi there. Did you ever get a chance to GAR this one? I know you're busy. Regards, SGGH ping! 13:33, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You to. :) SGGH ping! 10:41, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Almost certainly, as I'm doing dissertation work, and it's a distraction to Wiki! SGGH ping! 10:44, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I've set myself a goal over 2010 to FAC (at best) the England squad for the 1973 World Cup. Not as an FT, just the articles as a challenge. Boycs is a GA already, and not too far from FAC. SGGH ping! 10:49, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't remember to be honest, it has been hovering between GA and FAC for ages. SGGH ping! 11:04, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

GA review
Yes, I couldn't resist. The list of candidates seemed very slow moving, so I thought I'd have a go. Probably a little conceited of me!--Sarastro1 (talk) 22:07, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I hope so! It's kind of depressing looking at the high standard of Australian cricket articles and comparing them to the sorry state of English ones, especially from before WW2.--Sarastro1 (talk) 00:29, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

2001-02 VB Series
Re: DYK nomination. Sure, why not. We could also go with the controversy angle too, as in the whole thing with Stephen Fleming manipulating the bonus point system to keep Australia out of the final. I remember it caused quite a ruckus at the time. I'll see if I can upload a VB series image to put in the infobox, will have to make sure the fair use rationale is written correctly though because these things so often get deleted. Jevansen (talk) 01:29, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll be busy today so won't be able to do anything on it immediatly but I can have a look at the article tonight. I will upload a pic for the infobox and add a section on the bonus point controversy. Jevansen (talk) 22:41, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I've nominated it at Template talk:Did you know. Couldn't find the logo unfortunately. I'll certainly be expanding the article in the future but I think our contributions to date are enough to qualify it for inclusion. Will aim to have summaries for each of the initial group games. Thanks a lot for your help. Jevansen (talk) 10:40, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Re:G'day
Hey Hi! Sorry for the late reply as I didnot edit over the weekend. And yeah!! about Ganguly! --Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 03:51, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Willis
Wierdly, random browsing.... Peripitus (Talk) 08:21, 21 December 2009 (UTC) Well my weird random browsing has not find a nice easy box for peninsulas - that art has nothing in it but piccies :( SatuSuro 09:36, 21 December 2009 (UTC) So - what do you want to do? I could expand them easily using NLA and talis - but have to be off for a while SatuSuro 09:46, 21 December 2009 (UTC) Ok - thanks for clarifying that - the blackers book and kirkpatricks comment should be worht checking - gotta go - chat some other time SatuSuro 09:50, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Problem
I am still very confused sending you a message here in the middle of no where. I was wondering can you please help me out with one problem? thanks, (Karachibadshah (talk) 02:12, 22 December 2009 (UTC))

Oh my bad yeah so I was wondering I was looking at some pages personal information and there is some content that is missing, such as jersey number. I tried to put it in there on my own, but there is a bunch of weird symbols and letters :S So I was wondering I do I change personal information? You know how on the side underneath the picture? thanks (Karachibadshah (talk) 02:18, 22 December 2009 (UTC))
 * Wow good work mate, you are also a cricket fan? who is your favorite team? Thanks man I really appreciate the help. (Karachibadshah (talk) 02:31, 22 December 2009 (UTC))

Yeah mate 200% Pakistani cricket fan, but also support the game in general. Love the Aussies. I really appreciate your help you do not know how much it means to me I never expected someone to help me thanks a lot. (Karachibadshah (talk) 20:41, 22 December 2009 (UTC))

Yeah it sure will be a great series. I cannot wait for the start. Really hoping that cricket gets started again in Pakistan (Karachibadshah (talk) 01:42, 23 December 2009 (UTC))

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Re: Barnstar
Thanks very much, greatly appreciated! I'm just glad that you think I've done a decent job so far. There are lots of articles I would like to improve, it's just a matter of making time. --Sarastro1 (talk) 10:10, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

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RE:Willis
Willis' is correct, not Willis's, which would be "Wilis is is". I think. SGGH ping! 10:43, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool. Thank you! --SGGH ping! 10:51, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

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Needing help please
If you can create articles for the following..I would be very thankful to you......All other sports have such articles about autralia but Cricket does not.Please try to create them and as I dont know much about Aussie Cricket I cannot create them but I plead you to create.


 * Cricket in New South Wales
 * Cricket in South Australia
 * Cricket in Western Australia
 * Cricket in Tasmania
 * Cricket in Victoria
 * Cricket in Queensland

I do look up for help from you as you are a senior editor.............please SIR--Karyasuman (talk) 01:21, 31 December 2009 (UTC)