User talk:Aaronlamb19

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Recent edit to Josh Gordon
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My Josh Gordon post
If you don’t believe me it’s on NFL.com Aaronlamb19 (talk) 08:14, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

My Josh Gordon post
My source comes from NFL.com Aaronlamb19 (talk) 08:15, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

March 2020
Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to Curtis Martin, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Thank you.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  14:26, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

In the source that I listed it gives a list of every running back who has ever lead the league in rushing yards And next to their name it says their age Curtis Martin was 31 when he did so in 2004 no one has ever been older Aaronlamb19 (talk) 17:41, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * That's original research and against Wikipedia's policies. Unless there is a source that specifically says the statement you included, you are not allowed to come up with records on your own.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  17:45, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

I just uploaded it again you can go and check my source if you want to This time it’s from Bleacher report Aaronlamb19 (talk) 17:52, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that source is good. I also just noticed that the statement is already mentioned in the body of the article, and per WP:NFLINFOBOX, the record is probably too trivial to include in the infobox.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  17:54, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

I know that it was already listed but This record is not trivial the average length of a running back’s career in the NFL is 2.57 Years and the fact that Curtis did it at 31 years old Which was his 10th season Is incredible and it should be listed on the front page not buried in the body Aaronlamb19 (talk) 18:08, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Feel free to discuss it on the article's talk page and see if anyone else agrees to form a consensus. Your description sounds like trivia.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  18:10, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Question isn’t everything on Wikipedia trivia? I was uploading that To the career highlights and awards Category of his page so that people wouldn’t have to scroll through the entire article to see the record everything that I listed was factually true And honestly I didn’t even have to provide a source because someone already did I was just making it easier on people so they wouldn’t have to read the fine print not sure why you’re so against This Aaronlamb19 (talk) 18:22, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * According to WP:NFLINFOBOXNOT, "As a rule of thumb, if an achievement doesn't have its own article it's probably too trivial" to include in the NFL infobox and specifically lists "Arbitrary records, e.g. "most seasons with 1,200+ receiving yards and 12+ touchdowns in NFL history" as something to avoid.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  18:24, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Here’s the article Aaronlamb19 (talk) 18:28, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * It's referring to having its own Wikipedia article. For instance, NFL MVP has its own article. Oldest player to lead the league in rushing does not.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  18:29, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Oh maybe I made a mistake I’ll just give you the HTTP to make sure everything is right https://web.archive.org/web/20121012001416/http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/2012/8/1/Curtis-Martin-oldest-player-to-lead-NFL-in-rushing/ Aaronlamb19 (talk) 18:32, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * It's not about having a source, it's about the "record" being notable enough to have its own Wikipedia article to warrant inclusion in the infobox.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  18:33, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

For as long as I have been on Wikipedia and pretty much everyone that I talk to who is also on Wikipedia all believe that the most important thing is that you have a reliable source and that you are not lying to people and making it as clear and visible for them to read as possible first you tell me my source wasn’t good enough so I gave you two other ones and now you’re telling me you just personally don’t think it’s Notable enough Unless you can prove to me that I lied somewhere I’m gonna post it Aaronlamb19 (talk) 18:51, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. I've never said you lied about anything here, but you're missing the point of this website.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  18:52, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Not every individual record in NFL history Has its own separate Wikipedia pageAnd this record that I have been talking about is 1 of his career highlights And career high like should go in the career highlights and awards Category of his page Not somewhere buried thousands of words down Aaronlamb19 (talk) 19:07, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Career highlights not high like ^ Aaronlamb19 (talk) 19:08, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * His leading the league in rushing in 2004 is already listed in the infobox, fourth bullet point. "NFL rushing yards leader (2004)"  Eagles   24/7  (C)  19:09, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Yeah I know but that simply says that he just lead the league in rushing I know that at least in my case when I am doing research I don’t want to have to read through multiple pages to find out if something is true Basically all I’m saying is that I want to make it easier for people to know of this record Lots of people don’t even read the body of the articleThey just check the awards and accolades where usually NFL records are listed for a particular player and go off of that Aaronlamb19 (talk) 19:18, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm sure you could also "research" and find Martin is the first player to do many things as well as the oldest to do others, but we need to cap it off somewhere and WP:NFLINFOBOX spells out where we actually draw the line. You could also use search command on your keyboard or mobile device to find something specific like that.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  19:25, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Oh trust me we’re on the same page there I actually have 9 different records That he holds but I won’t list any of them because I don’t have a reliable source For them So you don’t have to worry about me filling all of Wikipedia with very odd records That aren’t listed anywhere However this particular record Is a very prestigious one which is documented in a few different places and should be listed in his Career highlights Aaronlamb19 (talk) 19:55, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's "a very prestigious" piece of trivia. It's clear we're going in circles with this conversation. If you want to gain a consensus for this addition, please post on the article's talk page.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  20:43, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

If you don’t agree with it that’s fine but I really don’t wanna have this conversation anymore so this is the last comment that I am leaving and I hope you’ve already left your last comment I believe that it is prestigious and noteworthy and should be a little easier to fine That’s it Aaronlamb19 (talk) 20:46, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for not listening.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  20:46, 16 March 2020 (UTC)