User talk:Abbyjadali

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April 2019
Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. This is just a note to let you know that I've moved the draft that you were working on to Draft:MONQ, from its old location at User:Abbyjadali/sandbox. This has been done because the Draft namespace is the preferred location for Articles for Creation submissions. Please feel free to continue to work on it there. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to ask me on my talk page. Thank you. Sam Sailor 06:46, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: MONQ (April 8)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Sam Sailor was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


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Sam Sailor 06:49, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:MONQ


A tag has been placed on Draft:MONQ, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. Sam Sailor 06:50, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Answer to your query
''You posted a message to my talk page. Normally I answer any message on the page on which it is posted, to prevent discussions from becoming fragmented and difficult to follow, but on this occasion I think it will be more helpful to have a record of what I say on your talk page, so I am copying your message here and answering it here.  The editor who uses the pseudonym'' "JamesBWatson" (talk) 12:06, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello! I saw that you deleted a page that I created about MONQ Aromatherapy portable diffusers. I can understand why it was deleted, it did seem a little like an ad, and I didn't realize that I couldn't use the companies website as a source. I was wondering if I could re-create this page to make it much more neutral to just talk about the company and their mission? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abbyjadali (talk • contribs) 18:02, 8 April 2019 (UTC)


 * The page which I deleted was just the talk page of your sandbox, and I deleted it because the sandbox had been deleted, making the talk page redundant. The draft of an article about "MONQ" had already been deleted by someone else.
 * Although I did not delete the draft article that you created, since you have asked me I will offer you a few comments on the matter. I hope they will be helpful to you.
 * 1) The page you created did not "seem a little like an ad": it seemed exactly like pure advertisement.
 * 2) This is at least the second account that has been created and done nothing at all other than post promotional material about "MONQ". It therefore appears that the company is trying to use Wikipedia for marketing purposes, which is not permitted.
 * If, as seems likely, you are editing on behalf of "MONQ", you need to be aware of Wikipedia's guideline on conflict of interest and related issues. To help you, I will post below this message a notice summarising the main points, and giving links to more complete information.
 * 1) In the much less likely event that you are not working for the company, and wrote something that looked like blatant marketing copy for some other reason, my advice to new editors is that it is best to start by making small improvements to existing articles, rather than creating new articles. That way any mistakes you make will be small ones, and you won't have the discouraging experience of repeatedly seeing hours of work deleted. Gradually, you will get to learn how Wikipedia works, and after a while you will know enough about what is acceptable to be able to write whole new articles without fear that they will be deleted. Over the years I have found that editors who start by making small changes to existing articles and work up from there have a far better chance of having a successful time here than those who jump right into creating new articles from the start.
 * 2) There was a discussion about a previous article about "MONQ", in which there was unanimous agreement that the subject does not satisfy Wikipedia's notability guidelines. After receiving your message on my talk page I have searched for information about it. What I found convinced me that the decision reached in that discussion was correct. A topic which does not satisfy the notability guidelines is not suitable as the subject of a Wikipedia article, no matter how well or badly that article may be written.
 * 3) In the very unlikely event that, despite what I have said, an article about "MONQ" does get accepted, the company will not own the article, and will not have control over its contents. Any promotional content will be removed, as will any content from unreliable sources, content not attributed to any source, and content from the company itself or any other company or organisation with any connection to the MONQ company. Information published in reliable sources independent of the company will be added to the article, whether favourable to the company or not. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 12:06, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. I am not working for the company, nor do I have any personal ties with the company. This was a project for my college class to create a Wikipedia page for something that did not have one yet and I chose "MONQ". I appreciate your willingness to answer me back and let me know more information, about everything that happened and why it happened. Abbyjadali (talk) 14:23, 10 April 2019 (UTC)Abby
 * OK, and I'm sorry that your college work has had a setback. There is organised support for teachers who wish to use Wikipedia editing as a task for their students, and when individual teachers do it alone, without that support, problems frequently arise, especially if the teacher has little or no experience of editing Wikipedia himself or herself, so that he or she doesn't know what is likely to be acceptable. I have no way of knowing for certain whether that applies in your case, but my guess is that it does, as otherwise you would have posted a notice on your user page saying that you were a student involved in a Wikipedia education assignment. When teachers set Wikipedia editing assignments without either having the knowledge to give proper support to their students themselves or else having support from the Wikipedia education project, students often run into problems such as seeing their work deleted. You may like to mention that to your teacher. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 16:23, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Conflict of interest and related matters
Hello, Abbyjadali. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, company, organization or competitors;
 * propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (see the request edit template);
 * disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see WP:DISCLOSE);
 * avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
 * do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 12:08, 9 April 2019 (UTC)