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February 2018
Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living (or recently deceased) persons, as you did to Hope Hicks. ''Please refrain from adding the word "disgraced" to the article tin the manner which you have twice now. It puts undue/unexplained weight to a subject which is not the topic of the article.'' Steel1943  (talk) 03:17, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Is that word actionable as libel? No. Abductive  (reasoning) 04:20, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2018 March newsletter
And so ends the first round of the competition, with 4 points required to qualify for round 2. With 53 contestants qualifying, the groups for round 2 are slightly smaller than usual, with the two leaders from each group due to qualify for round 3 as well as the top sixteen remaining users.

Our top scorers in round 1 were:


 * 🇺🇸 Aoba47 led the field with a featured article, 8 good articles and 42 GARs, giving a total of 666 points.
 * 🇩🇪 FrB.TG, a WikiCup newcomer, came next with 600 points, gained from a featured article and masses of bonus points.
 * 🇮🇳 Ssven2, another WikiCup newcomer, was in third place with 403 points, garnered from a featured article, a featured list, a good article and twelve GARs.
 * 🇺🇸 Ceranthor, 🇮🇳 Numerounovedant, Carbrera, 🇳🇱 Farang Rak Tham and 🇷🇴 Cartoon network freak all had over 200 points, but like all the other contestants, now have to start again from scratch. A good achievement was the 193 GARs performed by WikiCup contestants, comparing very favourably with the 54 GAs they achieved.

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Removed your reply
Hi, I removed your reply along with the post here [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Science&diff=831541378&oldid=831536409]. Their added comment at the end of their message and [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities&diff=prev&oldid=831522749] [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities&diff=prev&oldid=831523986] seem to make it clear that they're referring to an organic not metal bell and for various reasons (including the likelihood someone will come along and leave a smartarse remark), I think it's best just to remove their comment rather than just pretend it's a good faith question. Nil Einne (talk) 03:10, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

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April 2018
Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zainab Ali Nielsen. Thank you. ~ Winged Blades Godric 03:26, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I think that there is a lack of faith in the nomination. Abductive  (reasoning) 03:28, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Do you seriously suppose that the contested article is being proposed for deletion by someone who has something against its subject? Unless you have solid evidence to back up such as serious allegation, you are, to say the least, guilty of uncivil behavior. Kindly mend your ways and assist in a productive conclusion of that AfD. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 08:58, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

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[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Science&diff=838713581&oldid=838700731] You fucked up my intentional WP:indenting to make it seem like I was replying to CountIblis which made zero sense. If this was an accident, mistakes happen, but please take great care in the future since it's very annoying when you correctly indent your post and it somehow gets changed. If it was not a mistake, I suggest you never mess with someone else's indenting ever again, since it doesn't seem you know what you are doing Nil Einne (talk) 22:22, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * From reading your comment in WP:RDS, it seems clearly you're very new to the internet. Given that, may I suggest you take the time to experience it far more before you do stuff which causes problems for others? Read and experience stuff. Learn that places have simply etiquette rules that need to be followed. Etc. Nil Einne (talk) 22:28, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

WikiCup 2018 May newsletter
The second round of the 2018 WikiCup has now finished. Most contestants who advanced to the next round scored upwards of 100 points, but two with just 10 points managed to scrape through into round 3. Our top scorers in the last round were:


 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Cas Liber, our winner in 2016, with three featured articles
 * Iazyges, with nine good articles and lots of bonus points
 * 🇮🇳 Yashthepunisher, a first time contestant, with two featured lists
 * SounderBruce, a finalist last year, with seventeen good topic articles
 * 🇺🇸 Usernameunique, a first time contestant, with fourteen DYKs
 * Muboshgu, a seasoned competitor, with three ITNs and
 * Courcelles, another first time contestant, with twenty-seven GARs

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 * Thanks! Abductive  (reasoning) 04:23, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

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May 2018
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Re: your edit summary
at Battle of Jumonville Glen "People are not sure what county this occurred in, and you have the coordinates precise down to Washington's toenail"... Actually, the reason the present article states "near what is present-day Hopwood and Uniontown in Fayette County, Pennsylvania" is because there was an SPA that insisted the Battle took place where the USPS mailing address for Fort Necessity National Battlefield Park (& office) is. In Farmington PA, an unincorporated community. Which is not quite correct because Fort Necessity itself (of which Jumonville Glen is a part) is around 8 miles away from Jumonville Glen. And Jumonville Glen is closer to the Village of Hopwood than to Farmington. So I stated "near these two places" which gives the general vicinity. The Battle took place closer to Hopwood than Uniontown, perhaps according to the USPS mailing address "technically" in unincorporated Farmington..., but anyway... my point as to your edit summary...the County where the Battle took place is not in question, the location of the Battle is not unknown, and the County the Battle took place in always has been and clearly still is Fayette County. I am not sure as to why you altered 39.879568, -79.645590 to 39.879444, -79.645556 when they both basically resolve to the same location, the closest intersection on Google Maps. Shearonink (talk) 06:30, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Because longstanding Wikipedia consensus is to use dms. Four decimal points of precision on the arc second is precise to 0.1 inches, the size of a toenail. See accuracy and precision and false precision. Abductive  (reasoning) 07:17, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, ok - yes I agree with your point about the "dms"/toenail lol - makes perfect sense now. I just have a slight issue with the edit summary. The location of Jumonville's death is very well-known & sourced, that's all. Shearonink (talk) 22:58, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

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Phipps Bridge coordinates
Was just going from satellite imagery and photos, and clicking a point on the map, which I must have misread - thanks for catching the mistake and putting it on the other side of Phipps Bridge Road. --Lord Belbury (talk) 07:01, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

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Rollback, edit summaries, and general decorum
Per WP:Rollback, that user right is to be used only in certain specific cases. Fighting an edit war on behalf of your own edit is not one of them.

Per WP:SUMMARYNO, your recent edit summaries like "Only sourced to a lame-ass primary source" are inappropriate and uninformative. Actually, they are informative - not about your edit, but rather about your WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS approach - along with your talk page statements like "Removing primary source crap" and "tabloid crap". -- Netoholic @ 17:14, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Isatis japonica
Hi! Your new redirect, Isatis japonica is not found anywhere in the article it directs to. Could you elaborate its position in the main article so the redirect is viable? Thanks! S EMMENDINGER  ( talk ) 03:49, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Autopatrolled user right removed
Following our conversation on my talk page, I reviewed the last fifty articles you created. About 20% of them listed no sources at all, only had a list of external links (Taxonbar), or were otherwise inadequately referenced. As such I've removed the autopatrolled user right from your account. If you could please ensure that all your article creations in future conform to WP:V and the other core content policies, you can re-request the right at WP:PERM/A. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 11:19, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * You might want to look into the consensus on populated places and species. Abductive  (reasoning) 11:23, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * As I have said, notability isn't the concern here. It's that you're adding information without references. It's not a big issue but we rely on autopatrolled editors to create articles without any issues, otherwise they are likely never to be noticed or fixed. I don't think it's asking too much for you to simply cite where you got the information.
 * Also do note that you can continue creating articles exactly as before without autopatrolled, as 99% of editors do. Having your contributions looked at by a second pair of eyes isn't some sort of punishment. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 11:29, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * "Not getting fixed" assumes that they're broken. "Not getting noticed" means nobody would have ever created the articles, which is contrary to the spirit of Wikipedia. Take for example, Port Moresby General Hospital. Before I created the article, Google didn't really index it at all. Now the sources are easy to find. Abductive  (reasoning) 11:34, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2018 July newsletter
The third round of the 2018 WikiCup has now come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round had at least 227 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:


 * Courcelles, a first time contestant, with 1756 points, a tally built largely on 27 GAs related to the Olympics
 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Cas Liber, our winner in 2016, with two featured articles and three GAs on natural history and astronomy topics
 * SounderBruce, a finalist last year, with a variety of submissions related to transport in the state of Washington

Contestants managed 7 featured articles, 4 featured lists, 120 good articles, 1 good topic, 124 DYK entries, 15 ITN entries, and 132 good article reviews. Over the course of the competition, contestants have completed 458 GA reviews, in comparison to 244 good articles submitted for review and promoted. As we enter the fourth round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met. Please also remember that all submissions must meet core Wikipedia policies, regardless of the review process; several submissions, particularly in abstruse or technical areas, have needed additional work to make them completely verifiable.

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By whom - Prunus buergeriana
Hi Abductive. On your latest edit to Prunus buergeriana, you removed the "by whom" template. You argued that the claim's source is in the citation and that it was obviously a human who made the claim. I was not arguing that it was not a human. Per WP:WEASEL, claims that reference a vague third party should instead reference a person/group, as the claim should not be ambiguous. In fact, WP:WEASEL gives "considered", the phrase used in the article, as a weasel word example: "This tag is for placement after mention of a vague, third-party claim that is not sourced, such as "considered", "noted as", "nicknamed", "lauded as the world's ..." (best / largest / finest / etc.), "labeled", and the like."

If the claim's source is Robin Gill, the author of the reference, then an inline citation would be sufficient. I'm unfamiliar with the source, so I added a {by whom} template to the claim. I won't add the template back, but feel free to add the inline attribution. Thanks, Pagliaccious (talk) 01:31, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your work!
By the way, if you're ever in need of a similar task to help undertake, I've been slowly but steadily working on List of Hypericum species and its respective articles, and a helping hand is always appreciated in developing those articles. Cheers, Fritzmann2002 18:10, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

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Re: Unexplained removal of cited content
1. The quotes on Tajik and Russian are still there although there's just a portion. Speakers of Tajik or Russian can still trace the quotes on the cited webpages using those portions. 2. Since this is not the Tajik Wikipedia or Russian Wikipedia, such editing doesn't affect the overall content of the article. 3. WP:COPYQUOTE.

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WikiCup 2018 September newsletter
The fourth round of the 2018 WikiCup has now come to an end. The eight users who made it to the final round had to score a minimum of 422 points to qualify, with the top score in the round being 4869 points. The leaders in round 4 were:


 * Courcelles scored a magnificent 4869 points, with 92 good articles on Olympics-related themes. Courcelles' bonus points alone exceeded the total score of any of the other contestants!
 * Kees08 was second with 1155 points, including a high-scoring featured article for Neil Armstrong, two good topics and some Olympics-related good articles.
 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Cas Liber, with 1066 points, was in third place this round, with two featured articles and a good article, all on natural history topics.
 * Other contestants who qualified for the final round were 🇲🇭 Nova Crystallis, Iazyges,  SounderBruce,  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Kosack and 🇺🇸 Ceranthor.

During round four, 6 featured articles and 164 good articles were promoted by WikiCup contestants, 13 articles were included in good topics and 143 good article reviews were performed. There were also 10 "in the news" contributions on the main page and 53 "did you knows". Congratulations to all who participated! It was a generally high-scoring and productive round and I think we can expect a highly competitive finish to the competition.

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