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October 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter



 * October 2019&mdash;Issue 007


 * Tree of Life


 * Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!

{| role="presentation" class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width:100%; background:#b6ecd0;" By request from another editor, this month I wrote an overview of ways that content is featured on Wikipedia. Below I have outlined some of the processes for getting content featured:
 * Alphabet Soup: Explaining DYK, GA, FA, and More

Did You Know (DYK)
What is it: A way for articles to appear on the main page of Wikipedia. A short hook in the format of "Did you know...that ___" presents unusual and interesting facts to the reader, hopefully making the reader want to click through to the article

How it works: The DYK process has fairly low barriers for participation. The eligibility criteria are few and relatively easy to meet. Some important guidelines: The process for creating the nomination is somewhat tedious. Instructions can be found here (official instructions) and here ("quick and nice" guide to DYK). Experience is the best teacher here, so don't be afraid to try and fail a few times. The last few DYK nominations I've done, however, have been with the help of SD0001's DYK-helper script, which makes the process a bit more streamlined (you create the template from a popup box on the article; created template is automatically transcluded to nominations page and article talk page)
 * To be eligible, article is either new (newly created or moved to mainspace), a 5x expansion, or passed a GA review. Its creation, expansion, or promotion to GA must have been in the past 7 days.
 * Article must be long enough, with more than 1,500 characters of prose (this doesn't include embedded lists)
 * I find Shubinator's DYKcheck script useful in determining whether an article is eligible for nomination.

Once your nomination is created and transcluded, it will need to be reviewed. The reviewer will check that the article meets the eligibility criteria, that the hook is short enough, cited, and interesting, and that other requirements are met, such as for images. If you've been credited with more than 5 DYKs, the reviewer will also check that you've reviewed someone else's nomination for each article that you nominate. This is called QPQ (quid pro quo). You can check how many credited DYKs you've had here to see if QPQ is required for you to nominate an article for DYK.

Good Article (GA)
What it is: A peer review process to determine that an article meets a set of criteria. This adds a symbol to the top of the article. About 1 in 200 articles on Wikipedia is a GA.

How it works: You follow the instructions to nominate an article, placing a template on its talk page. Anyone can nominate an article&mdash;you don't have to be a major contributor, though it is considered polite to inform the major contributors that you are nominating the article. The article is added to a queue to await a review. In the ToL, it seems that reviews happen pretty quickly, thanks to our dedicated members. Once the review begins, the reviewer will offer suggestions to help the article meet the 6 GA criteria. Upon addressing all concerns, the reviewer will pass the article, and voilà! Good Article!

Advice to a first-time nominator: Look at other Good Articles in related areas before nominating. If you're unsure about nominating, consider posting to the talk page of your project to see what other editors think. You can also have a more experienced editor co-nominate the article with you.

Featured Article (FA)
What it is: An exhaustive peer review to determine that an articles meets the criteria. This adds a to the top of the article. About 1 in 1,000 articles on Wikipedia is a FA.

How it works: You follow the instructions to nominate an article, placing a template on its talk page. Nominated articles are usually GAs already. Uninvolved editors can nominate, though the article's regular editors should be consulted first. Several editors will come by offering feedback, eventually supporting or opposing promotion to FA. A coordinator will determine if there is consensus to promote the article to FA. For an editor's first FA, spot checks to verify that the sources support the text are conducted.

Advice to a first-time nominator: The Featured Article Candidate (FAC) process is a bit intimidating, but several steps can make your first one easier (speaking as someone who has exactly one). If you also did the GA nomination of the article, you can ask the reviewer for "extra" feedback beyond the GA criteria. You can also formally request a peer review and/or a copy edit from the Guild of Copy Editors to check for content and mechanics. First-time nominators are encouraged to seek the help of a mentor for a higher likelihood of passing their first FAC.

Good and Featured Topics (GT and FT)
What it is: It took me a while to realize we even had GT and FT on Wikipedia, as they are not very common relative to GA and FA. Both GT and FT are collections of related articles of high quality (all articles at GA or FA, all lists at Featured List). GT/FT have to be at least 3 articles with no obvious gaps in coverage of the topic, along with other criteria. For GT, all articles have to be GA quality and all lists must be FL. For FT, at least half the articles must be FA or FL, with the remaining articles at GA.

How it works: Follow the nomination procedures for creating a new topic or adding an article to an existing topic. Other editors weigh in to support or oppose the proposal. Coordinators determine if there is consensus to promote to GT/FT.

Advice to a first-time nominator: There are very few GT/FT in Tree of Life (5 GT and 11 FT). Most of the legwork appears to be improving a cohesive set of articles to GA/FA.
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December 2019
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at WTJZ. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. ''Please see the FCC database, which is what we go by, as the reliable source we go by. Your own input, which is original research is not necessary nor needed, per WP:OR. Stop now or be blocked.''  Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 04:12 on December 6, 2019 (UTC) 04:12, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * It is your mindless insertion of zeroes past the decimal point that is laughable. My edits are constructive; yours are tendentious. Nobody else would ever support your nonsense. Abductive  (reasoning) 04:20, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Mine follow the rules laid out by Wikipedia, yours do not. So, who's are laughable?  Plus, you are actually arguing this point, which makes it even more laughable and yes, mindless.  So, please continue. -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 04:26 on December 6, 2019 (UTC)
 * Nowhere on your guideline does it mention coordinates. So, you are just making it up, and bullying me thereby. Abductive  (reasoning) 04:34, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

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December 2019
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at WTJZ, you may be blocked from editing.  Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 16:55 on December 17, 2019 (UTC) 16:55, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * You know full well that removing zeroes behind a decimal point is not vandalism. Abductive  (reasoning) 19:34, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * You know full well you have made up that reasoning to justify what you are doing. We go by the FCC documents (extra decimal points, zeros, and all), which is a highly reliable source, and not your original research for whatever the reason.  When you understand I am operating within the rules and you are not, we'll get along just fine. -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 03:24 on December 18, 2019 (UTC)
 * My reasoning is sound. You want Wikipedia to parrot a primary source that reports an extra couple of zeroes. You are unique in this regard. Please reread WP:Ownership of content. Abductive  (reasoning) 03:42, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
 * To you your reasoning might be sound, but according to the rules of Wikipedia, your reasoning doesn't matter. You follow the rules or you get warned then blocked.  It's as simple as that.  You clearly aren't understanding that your reasoning doesn't fit into this equation.  It's the Wikipedia way or the highway.  Pure and simple. -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 18:38 on December 18, 2019 (UTC)
 * Routine calculations (WP:CALC) aren't original research. Abductive  (reasoning) 18:54, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
 * "...provided there is consensus among editors that the result of the calculation is obvious, correct, and a meaningful reflection of the sources." Don't cherry pick, if you are going to quote, quote the WHOLE thing.  Your "reasoning" isn't a MEANINGFUL reflection of the sources and the Federal Communications Commission is the most reliable of sources.  Your "reasoning" and your "calculations" aren't going to trump theirs by a longshot, nor will your anything be found to be better than a Federal Government source.  Sorry, you aren't going to sway me here.  Move on. -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 02:06 on December 19, 2019 (UTC)
 * You know you don't have consensus among editors at the Radio Wikiproject. Abductive  (reasoning) 02:15, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
 * For the use of FCC documents? Wanna bet? -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 03:14 on December 19, 2019 (UTC)
 * You might want to read the archives, where you were in the minority about rounding FCC coordinates. Nobody but you on Wikipedia will ever think that just because the FCC primary source database reports coordinates with two extra zeroes on their ends that Wikipedians have to do so too. They'll say, "have you heard of rounding?" and, "did you know that WP:CALC is a WP:Policy?" Abductive  (reasoning) 04:43, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

I just checked the archives on WPRS and there is no such discussion. So, do me a favor, spread your lies somewhere else. You officially bore me. Later. -  Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 04:52 on December 19, 2019 (UTC)
 * You are the one on my talk page. Abductive  (reasoning) 04:58, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/The Child (Star Wars character)
Please see note on your DYK review. Yoninah (talk) 23:02, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Acer diabolicum
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Death of Kobe Bryant
I've reverted the edit, but do not intent further revert. I have received consensus through editing that the template belongs on 2020 Island Express Sikorsky S-76B crash article not this article which is focused on Kobe. I'll ask for further input. Valoem talk contrib 00:45, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * You wrote I was being irrational, when I've given good reason why there should not be an infobox. I wrote a response on my page why an infobox should be held off until an article about the crash exists and exactly what I thought would happen, happened. Valoem <b style="color: blue;">talk</b> <b style="color: Green;">contrib</b> 02:47, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Couma utilis
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New message from Narutolovehinata5
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sigfigs
See sigfigs which explains about using excessive digits. Caltech is not a point, even though it is relatively small as schools go. I don't know about decimal vs. degrees, minutes, and seconds, but 15 arc seconds is about right. Caltech goes from about 34.136 to 34.140 latitude, and -118.127 to -118.124 longitude. If you want to point to a specific building, then maybe four decimal digits. Gah4 (talk) 08:53, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Acer diabolicum
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GPS precision
over precision is a rather obtuse problem when you just click here and then copy the results to show what you have. I've seem seconds displayed with a .5 precision which is way over precise, whereas a simple |format=dms gives the same result without losing anything Dave Rave (talk) 23:58, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Perhaps some of my improvements aren't much of a difference, but if you look through my contribs, you'll see that more often than not, the more precise coords miss the targets. Some miss by 100 km. Abductive  (reasoning) 03:17, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of East Anglia Medieval Fayre for deletion
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Thanks
Hey, thanks for fixing the coords on the Little Cross article! Small change, but still appreciated! Puddleglum 2.0  01:25, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

WikiCup 2020 March newsletter
And so ends the first round of the competition. Everyone with a positive score moves on to Round 2, with 57 contestants qualifying. We have abolished the groups this year, so to qualify for Round 3 you will need to finish Round 2 among the top thirty-two contestants.

Our top scorers in Round 1 were:


 * Epicgenius, a WikiCup newcomer, led the field with a featured article, five good articles and an assortment of other submissions, specialising on buildings and locations in New York, for a total of 895 points.
 * Royal Standard of England (1406-1603).svg Gog the Mild came next with 464 points, from a featured article, two good articles and a number of reviews, the main theme being naval warfare.
 * 🇺🇸 Raymie was in third place with 419 points, garnered from one good article and an impressive 34 DYKs on radio and TV stations in the United States.
 * Harrias came next at 414, with a featured article and three good articles, an English civil war battle specialist.
 * Pirate Flag.svg CaptainEek was in fifth place with 405 points, mostly garnered from bringing Cactus wren to featured article status.
 * The top ten contestants at the end of Round 1 all scored over 200 points; they also included 🇺🇸 L293D, 🇻🇪 Kingsif, 🇦🇶 Enwebb, 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Lee Vilenski and 🇳🇵 CAPTAIN MEDUSA. Seven of the top ten contestants in Round 1 are new to the WikiCup.

These contestants, like all the others, now have to start scoring points again from scratch. In Round 1 there were four featured articles, one featured list and two featured pictures, as well as around two hundred DYKs and twenty-seven ITNs. Between them, contestants completed 127 good article reviews, nearly a hundred more than the 43 good articles they claimed for, thus making a substantial dent in the review backlog. Contestants also claimed for 40 featured article / featured list reviews, and most even remembered to mention their WikiCup participation in their reviews (a requirement).

Remember that any content promoted after the end of Round 1 but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Some contestants made claims before the new submissions pages were set up, and they will need to resubmit them. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews.

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WikiCup newsletter correction
There was an error in the WikiCup 2020 March newsletter; 🇺🇸 L293D should not have been included in the list of top ten scorers in Round 1 (they led the list last year), instead, 🇺🇸 Dunkleosteus77 should have been included, having garnered 334 points from five good articles on animals, living or extinct, and various reviews. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:29, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

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Center of the city
Hi can you please provide a source for "the city itself choose to make this intersection the center", and for "Google is deprecated as a source for coordinates"? ɱ (talk) 04:34, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, by calling one section of a street north, and one section south, and then by dividing a street which intersects that street at that point into east and west at that same intersection, a unique intersection is created. No other intersection in a city can have that property. This is usually taken as the center of a city. In Japan, the City Hall is usually used due to the weirdness of the Japanese addressing system. As for Google, take a look at some random city and town articles on Wikipedia. Notice how they almost always express their coordinates in D°M′S″? This is no accident; Wikipedia editors long before my time decided that D°M′S″ was the best. Then check Google Maps and note where they randomly plunk down the marker. Google Maps is a primary source, and any Wikipedia editor can WP:CHALLENGE a primary source. Abductive  (reasoning) 04:48, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * These aren't direct, clear sources stating that Columbus considers its center there, or that Google has, by a community discussion's consensus, been "deprecated". I'm tired of arguing this little point further and will just drop it, no wonder your signature is "abductive reasoning". ɱ  (talk) 14:50, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Any input for Puddleglum's The Signpost article?
Hi Abductive, Tenryuu from WikiProject COVID-19. A fellow collaborator,, is looking for editors to answer some interview questions regarding editing and COVID-19. If you're interested, please leave your thoughts over at User:Puddleglum2.0/WPR. Cheers! -- Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝)  18:21, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

March 2020
Your recent editing history at 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Italy shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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Coordinates
Can you explain your claims that DMS is best and Five-digit decimal coordinates cannot resolve on Wikidata? DMS has no inherent advantages over decimal; arguably it's less intuitive. And I've never seen any indication that Wikidata has any issues with five-digit decimal coords. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 07:44, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikidata defaults to DMS. It will attempt to turn decimal coordinates to DMS, DMS.s, DMS.ss, etc., and be unable to stop extending the digits. D.dd are the last decimal coordinates that always turn exactly into DMS without any remainders. Then any D.dddd that ends in D.dd00, D.dd25, D.dd50, and D.dd75, will also work out to "integral" DMS. Look through my edits and you'll see that I try to choose DMS that also happen to end as D.dd00/25/50/75.
 * So, it is inelegant to use D.ddd or D.ddddd. D.dddddd doesn't resolve, unless the last two digits are 00. Also, the five or six level of precision exceeds the ability of both GPS measuring devices, and the accuracy of Google Maps and Bing maps.
 * If you click on the random article link on the left column a bunch of times, you will note that most articles give the coordinates in DMS. I was trying to find a counterexample to show you but gave up after about 50 clicks--they were all DMS. Early on in my time editing Wikipedia I was informed that the use of DMS was the standard. For many years, people hewed to that standard. Abductive  (reasoning) 22:07, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Your coordinates should be based on the actual position of an object, not an attempt to avoid rounding. (I have reverted your wikidata change to 360 Newbury Street for that reason - your change moved the coordinates from centered on the building to off-center.) Five decimal places is a precision of about one meter - the same accuracy that Google claims for its imagery - which is desirable for smaller buildings and similar objects per the links you posted at my talk page. If you wish to see DMS coordinates on all articles, you can follow the instructions here. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:01, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I find that forcing DMS is inelegant and hides mistakes. Abductive  (reasoning) 02:19, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

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If that's still on your watchlist, you'll see that your edit at was reverted, although somewhere along the line the numbered links to sources lost the sources themselves. Doug Weller talk 10:53, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The section is completely different now than when I made that addition. I think the editor may be correct in removing it. Abductive  (reasoning) 15:18, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Fine, just thought you might want to know. Doug Weller  talk 08:47, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

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