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ITN credit
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BJU and race
I'd be happy to engage you in a discussion about the extent of coverage given to BJU's racial policies on the Bob Jones University article's talk page.--John Foxe (talk) 14:57, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

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June 2014
Hello, I'm Srich32977. Your recent edit to the page Bowe Bergdahl appears to have added incorrect information, so I have removed it for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. ''Hello. Where you got the idea that the Taliban Five were members of a sovereign government is beyond me. The article certainly does not say so. If they were, the US would not have kept them at Gitmo for all of these years. Nor did Hagel say this as a POW exchange. (Nor were the 5 legitimate/lawful combatants.) Here is the diff that concerns me:. Also, I'm disappointed in myself because I did not catch this error earlier. (One week was much to long!) Thanks. ''  – S. Rich (talk) 20:01, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

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Plantar fasciitis
Which reference that I used are you referring to as primary? I do not have WP:OWN issues, I removed what you put into the article for valid reasons. I'm sorry if that upsets you, but it's not personal. I don't have an objection to the material itself if it comes from peer-reviewed secondary sources, but an article from bleacher report by a few chiropractors is insufficient to overturn statements supported by review articles references that are secondary in nature. I am unclear as to which article that is used as a citation in the PF article you are suggesting is primary. Can you clarify? The study you added is a primary study (and a small pilot study at that) and is weak evidence and not MEDRS compliant. TylerDurden8823 (talk) 04:38, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * You have your scientific source now. Listen to reason: the treatment is to stretch the calf, strengthen the opposing muscles. Now live up to your username, Tyler Durden, and do the right thing rather than act like the tools and douchbags Durden fought against. 04:42, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * My username is irrelevant here. I chose it only because I like the movie and it is not a metaphor for how I edit Wikipedia. Regarding the scientific source, I must urge you to read WP:MEDRS. Techniques to stretch the plantar fascia and achilles tendon are already mentioned within the treatment section. I have found no review articles discussing tibialis anterior strengthening as a form of treatment for plantar fasciitis. If you are familiar with such a review, please send it my way and I'll take a look. I am also a bit troubled by your behavior on the PF page and I found it to be inappropriate to accuse me of WP:OWN when I made no such claims of ownership and removed the content you added with clear edit summary explanations rooted in Wikipedia policy. I haven't been discourteous to you, so I would appreciate it if you would reply in kind. TylerDurden8823 (talk) 04:49, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, please note that I did not undo other edits made to the page by other users (e.g., Blue Rasberry's contribution from today). Another page to be familiar with since you brought up WP:OWN would be this one. I never exhibited any of these behaviors. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ownership_of_articles#Examples_of_ownership_behaviour TylerDurden8823 (talk) 05:28, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

A couple of issues

 * 1) Civility is required. More poor quality comment such as in the edit summary here will result in you loosing your ability to edit
 * No it won't. Abductive  (reasoning) 17:52, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Heh, a blunt response to a threatening comment. Still, basic civility is needed for Wikipedia to function (WP:NICE), and policies mean more when enforced. Thus I don't really understand where you disagree. —WOFall (talk) 19:33, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Secondary sources are generally needed per WP:MEDRS. This is a primary source and this is not suitable  Best  Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 05:16, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014 June newsletter
After an extremely close race, Round 3 is over. 244 points secured a place in Round 4, which is comparable to previous years- 321 was required in 2013, while 243 points were needed in 2012. Pool C's was the round's highest scorer, mostly due to a 32 featured pictures, including both scans and photographs. Also from Pool C, finished second overall, claiming three featured articles, including the high-importance Grus (constellation). Third place was Pool B's, whose contributions included featured articles Russian battleship Poltava (1894) and Russian battleship Peresvet. Pool C saw the highest number of participants advance, with six out of eight making it to the next round.

The round saw this year's first featured portal, with taking Portal:Literature to featured status. The round also saw the first good topic points, thanks to and the 2013 Atlantic hurricane season. This means that all content types have been claimed this year. Other contributions of note this round include a featured topic on Maya Angelou's autobiographies from, a good article on the noted Czech footballer Tomáš Rosický from and a now-featured video game screenshot, freely released due to the efforts of.

The judges would like to remind participants to update submission pages promptly. This means that content can be checked, and allows those following the competition (including those participating) to keep track of scores effectively. This round has seen discussion about various aspects of the WikiCup's rules and procedures. Those interested in the competition can be assured that formal discussions about how next year's competition will work will be opened shortly, and all are welcome to voice their views then. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. and 18:48, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

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One of the rudest edit summaries I have ever seen. :-(
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shuja%27iyya&diff=prev&oldid=618503788

Dear Abductive - your comment "(Coordinates overspecified by some dimbulb who who couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were written on the heel." on the above edit in my view is way way beyond anything I would expect to see on wikipedia. Totally and absolutely uncalled for. I can not understand what your problem is considering you are happily reverting peoples pages with no explanations.Andrewgprout (talk) 06:28, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
 * People point coordinates to their own houses or other inappropriate places, rather than the topic of the article. Abductive  (reasoning) 21:18, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

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Janice Dowell
Do you really feel strongly about this deletion? Bearian (talk) 17:27, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Of course. There are about 2 million professors in the world. Dang near all of their bios would read like hers. Abductive  (reasoning) 22:26, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to give you the hint that a deletion without discussion might be controversial. Bearian (talk) 22:52, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I expect to prevail. Abductive  (reasoning) 03:17, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

"FUAD, academic booster"
I'm afraid your edit summary is more summary than I can handle. Could you please explain it? Paradoctor (talk) 12:12, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Changyuraptor
 Harrias  talk 14:08, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Deleted artist page
I just got back from a trip and saw that you deleted an article I was working on about an artist. Please restore it so I can continue to improve it. I don't understand what the problem was. I cited a number of reliable sources. Now all the material is gone as I did not save a copy.--Artzi (talk) 08:33, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

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Need Citations on your West Africat Ebola edits
You'll need to have a citation for your edits on this article. Also don't add information to the lead section without incorporating expanded material about the edit in the body of the article. Us normal editors have too much to do without cleaning up your edits. Its far less time consuming just to revert your entire edit. --Aflafla1 (talk) 20:09, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
 * "Normal editors"? Are you suggesting I'm abnormal? Or is that just a tacit admission that none of the regular editors of the article bothered to add those very important events that occurred in West Point for days and days until prodded? Abductive  (reasoning) 05:38, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The latter. Sorry about the confusion. --Aflafla1 (talk) 00:56, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

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Cleopatra Abdou
Hello Abductive.

I added some recent information published by a magazine about Cleopatra Abdou, it also mentioned her current position so I also used it to reference it. In doing so, I noticed that the whole reference section is not done using "<"ref">" but using "<"sup">" which I never saw before, and I have a feeling is not the right way. If you think the article is on the right path I can try to fix that section. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 16:33, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014 August newsletter
The final of the 2014 WikiCup begins in a few short minutes! Our eight finalists are listed below, along with their placement in Round 4:


 * , a WikiCup newcomer, finished top of Pool A and was the round's highest scorer. Godot is a featured picture specialist, claiming large numbers of points due to high-quality scans of historical documents, especially banknotes.
 * 1) is a WikiCup veteran, having been a finalist every year since 2010. In the semi-final, he was Pool B's highest scorer. Cas's points primarily come from articles on the natural sciences.
 * 2) was Pool A's runner-up. Czar's points come mostly from content related to independent video games, including both articles and topics.
 * 3) was Pool B's runner-up. Another featured picture specialist, many of Adam's points come from the restoration of historical media. He has been a WikiCup finalist twice before.
 * 4) won the WikiCup in 2012 and 2013, and enters this final as the first wildcard. She focuses on biology-related articles, and has worked on several high-importance articles.
 * 5) is the second wildcard. George's points come primarily from meteorology-related articles. This year and last year, George was the first person in the competition to score.
 * , the third wildcard, was the 2010 champion and a finalist last year. His writes mostly on military history, especially naval history.
 * , the fourth and final wildcard, has participated in previous WikiCups, but not reached any finals. Bloom's points are mostly thanks to did you knows, featured lists and good articles related to sport and national symbols.

We say goodbye to this year's semi-finalists. ,, , , , and  have all performed well to reach this stage of the competition, and we hope they will all be joining us again next year.

There are two upcoming competitions unrelated to the WikiCup which may be of interest to those who receive this newsletter. The Stub Contest will run through September, and revolves around expanding stub articles, especially high-importance or old stubs. In addition, a proposal has been made for a new competition, the GA Cup, which the organisers plan to run next year. This competition is based on the WikiCup and aims to reduce the good article review backlog.

There is now a thread for brainstorming on how next year's WikiCup competition should work. Please come along and share your thoughts- What works? What doesn't work? What needs changing? Signups for next year's competition will be open soon; we will be in touch. If, at this stage of the competition, you are keen to help the with the WikiCup, please do what you can to participate in review processes. Our finalists will find things much easier if the backlogs at good article candidates, featured article candidates, featured picture candidates and the rest are kept at a minimum. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. and 22:09, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

"Cite book" redirect
In 2012 you participated in a discussion about various "cite x" template redirects (e.g. "Cite journal", "Cite book", etc) at Redirects for discussion/Log/2012 August 30. The redirect "" was nominated for deletion yesterday (31 August 2014) and your input into the discussion would be welcome at Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 August 31. Thryduulf (talk) 12:47, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Masters of the universe characters
I think this maybe of interest to you I since you have participated in AFD's by myself  I believe the likes of Stinkor and Moss Man should be split if you disagree or agree I have started a discussion at Talk:List of Masters of the Universe characters. Dwanyewest (talk) 19:59, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

O'Reilly Island
You added the phrase "in 11 m of water" to the description of the finding of the wreck; however, I don't see that depth information in the cited reference, and you didn't add a new reference for it. Would you please add the missing reference in which you saw that information? Also, please use undefined undefined. Thanks for your help! Johnson487682 (talk) 18:25, 11 September 2014 (UTC)