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Hi Abebenjoe. I made a change to the archiving you just did. For whatever reason all of the formatting was gone. The reason I landed on the page was that when the formatting was removed, a helpme template from long ago was showing as if placed now. I'm not sure why you would want the formatting removed, which makes it very difficult to read, and I'm not sure you did it on purpose, so I placed it back. Of course, if you really do want it the other way, feel free, but please make sure you null the helpme template which can be done in various ways, such as    helpme or. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:22, 27 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I goofed. I accidentally wrote-over my clipboard's contents.--Abebenjoe (talk) 16:20, 27 May 2011 (UTC

Canadian federal election, 1957
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 * I have to concur in that, as the principal author of the article. Those articles are on commons or on WP, and it is natural you'd think they are usable.  However, they all turn out to be copyright (I lost a major battle at Commons over one of them) and we can't use them in the article.  Thanks for your help though, and if you have any questions, please come to my talk page or the article talk page.  Best wishes,--Wehwalt (talk) 22:28, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

If you would like information a bout Peggy Nash, NDP Leadership candidate, please email me (Tom) at media@peggynash.ca. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.95.186.29 (talk) 18:00, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

M.J. Coldwell picture on 1957 Canadian Election Page
Originally posted on User talk:Wehwalt

Hi Wehwalt: There used to be a rights cleared image of Coldwell, taken prior to 1946. If not, I have one from my David Lewis article that is rights cleared. BTW which photo did you lose the Commons battle on? Was it the previous Coldwell image?--Abebenjoe (talk) 22:35, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * No, it was the three Liberals at the Ottawa railroad station, and the lineup to vote, for that matter. The Duncan Cameron image battle (if you are interested, I'm sure you can easily find it at Commons) stemmed from peculiar language on the LAC site that suggested his images were now PD.  After a pain in the butt battle, an admin there ruled against that position and I had to make hasty changes to the election article and to the Dief article, both of which I wrote, got to FA and TFA and maintain.  I think I've seen that Coldwell image, he looks young!  Canadian image policy is painful to deal with, though I will say nice things about the fact that almost all pre-1946 images are kosher.  Busy right now trying to prove publication the image (I can't link it, it is at suite101 dot com, which is on our spamlist) which is supposedly Crown Copyright, possibly expired, but I'm suspicious of it.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:55, 10 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah...I've had these kinds of fights about post-1948 images from LAC. All my Expo 67 photos have been removed over the past few years, even though it clearly states on LAC that there is "no prohibition" to use them, or something to that effect. It was only recently, when I met one of the Wikimedia admins in person, at a Wikipedia Meetup in Toronto, that the frustration of dealing with LAC became painfully clear. So, when I can't take a photo of a politician, or building that no longer exists, I try to write and ask to obtain permission to use it on Wikimedia, CC3 licence, and ask only to use a small image and word it that it is only that file, which seems to work. I've done that about five or six times in the past few years. BTW, it's my pathetic picture of former Prime Minister Turner that is his Wikimedia image. It's awful, but he was in my neighbourhood in September 2009, and I took the opportunity to snap it. Oh well, at least there is a visual record of him ;). Take care, --Abebenjoe (talk) 23:46, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Bill Temple
Do you know if Bill Temple was successful in his candidacy for Ontario CCF party president in 1952? Unfortunately, the free preview of my Google Books source ends just as the outcome of the convention is about to be revealed. I assume not, but can't be sure. Vale of Glamorgan (talk) 01:21, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Ontario NDP
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Co-operative Commonwealth Federation, Ontario Section
Hi Vale: I noticed you changed the name of the Ontario CCF to "Co-operative Commonwealth Federation, Ontario Section." I reverted because in the literature that I have been reading, it does not come out that way. If you can point to a good source, with page reference, that clearly states that the name is indeed "Ontario Section", than I would gladly put it back in.--Abebenjoe (talk) 06:52, 17 August 2011 (UTC)


 * See this. Vale of Glamorgan (talk) 07:05, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

That seems to be a library designation, not what the party calls itself.Abebenjoe (talk) 07:11, 17 August 2011 (UTC)


 * It's the formal name the provincial party used to publish its literature. If you examine an Ontario CCF booklet from the era you'll see that it's published by the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation, Ontario Section. Vale of Glamorgan (talk) 07:13, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

All those documents are without a preview, so I can't read them. It still seems like a library classification, rather than its official name. I'll take a look at some of my actual books, and see if it says anything, but from what I've read, that does not seem to be the name the party itself used.Abebenjoe (talk) 07:18, 17 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Here's another example. Formally, the provincial wings were known as the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation, Saskatchewan Section; Co-operative Commonwealth Federation, Ontario Section; Co-operative Commonwealth Federation, Alberta Section, etc. Less formally they were Ontario CCF, Saskatchewan CCF etc. Vale of Glamorgan (talk) 07:24, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * And another Vale of Glamorgan (talk) 07:25, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * See Appendix B which is printed page 232 (or page 246 of the PDF) - the party letterhead uses the name "Co-operative Commonwealth Federation - Ontario Section - The Farmer-Labor Party of Ontario" Vale of Glamorgan (talk) 07:35, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Ok, if it comes from the pen and typewriter of Joseph Noseworthy or Morden Lazarus, than it must be correct. The funny thing about this, and I've checked about five different books now, the authors always say Province, then the abbreviated "CCF". I found one reference to Saskatchewan as the "CCF (Saskatchewan Section)', but not completely spelled out. It would also appear that the secondary name is Farmer-Labor party of Ontario. The lead sentence should now read "Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (Ontario Section)–The Farmer-Labor Party of Ontario, or more informally known as The Ontario CCF. . ." Attribution should be included in the Origins section. Thank you for catching that. I'll have to look through the CCF Constitution again and see if it is there, that would be an even better source, but for now, this is great.Abebenjoe (talk) 08:04, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Bill Grummett
I only made one edit to the article and that was just adjusting a link. However, I think being an MPP makes one notable to have an article so it shouldn't be deleted, just sourced. Vale of Glamorgan (talk) 01:05, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Mistakes
"So I wouldn't make so many &hellip; mistakes". But that is why you are on Wikipedia - there are others to correct your mistakes - generally, sympathetically. I have moved Abebenjoe/Sandbox8 to User:Abebenjoe/Sandbox8. &mdash; RHaworth 16:10, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Apollo Hoax in Popular Culture
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John Scarlett (Toronto) and WP:NPOV
Hi Abebenjoe, I wrote the article on John Scarlett (Toronto) you recently rated. Could you please give a bit more feedback with respect to how you think more emphasis could be placed on a neutral point of view?HamiltonHarbour (talk) 01:55, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Dragon (Spacecraft)
Hi Abebenjoe, I've reverted your gender-related change, as "automated" does not mean the same as "unmanned" and a spacecraft can be either, neither or both.

Also, a better course of action maybe to instigate a change name for the unmanned resupply spacecraft article to uncrewed resupply spacecraft unless unmanned resupply spacecraft is an official category used within the space industry. Hope that helps, Regards, Lynbarn (talk) 00:18, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Main page appearance: David Lewis (politician)
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David Lewis (1909–1981) was a Russian-born Canadian Rhodes Scholar, labour lawyer and social democratic politician. He was national secretary of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation from 1936 to 1950. As theUnited Steelworkers of America’s legal counsel in Canada, he played a central role in the creation of the Canadian Labour Congress in 1956 and in the New Democratic Party (NDP)'s formation in 1961. In 1962, he was elected as a Member of Parliament. He was the NDP's leader from 1971 to 1975. After his defeat in the 1974 Canadian election, he retired from politics. He spent his last years as a university professor and a newspaper travel correspondent. In retirement, he was named to the highest level of the Order of Canada for his political service. After a lengthy battle with cancer, he died in 1981. (more...)

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Socialist Party of Ontario
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AEA Silver Dart
We need to discuss before getting any more back-and-forth edits. I do have some major concerns over the stylistic aspects of the editing, that can be further elaborated on the talk page of the article. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 23:05, 23 February 2012 (UTC).

. . . (deleted very long, multi-day interchange between Bill and I)


 * FWiW, I enjoyed our interchange of ideas and if you do want to know more about Voldemort (Peter Z), shoot me an email. Bzuk (talk) 16:06, 26 February 2012 (UTC).

Sinking of the RMS Titanic
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COTS 2 demo
I read about that, since May 10th might conflict with Soyuz TMA-04M some people are predicting May 18th as a possible launch date.--Craigboy (talk) 21:56, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Peggy Nash
Done. But also, since the leadership campaign is now over and the issue that led to the initial page protection no longer applies, I've also unprotected the page so that it can be edited normally again. (I will, of course, happily reprotect it if a new problem crops up.) Bearcat (talk) 16:22, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Alexa McDonough
Just returned from a trip and saw your note on my talk page. I quickly looked over the article just now, then checked the PR to see who had commented. Looks like User:Nikkimaria has covered everything I noticed and then some. How about if you work on her suggestions and then ping me for a followup so that I won't being making redundant suggestions? Finetooth (talk) 03:06, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Sydney, Nova Scotia
"(→‎History: Removing unsourced content that was clearly plagiarize from the CBRM's website!)"

What is your evidence for this having come from CBRM's website? I searched for a while and couldn't find it on CBRM's website. I'm not saying it isn't there, just that I couldn't find it. This is all pretty commonly understood basic history for Sydney. I can provide sources for it when I have a chance as this same information has been published numerous time over the years, especially since Sydney's Bi-Centennial in 1985. Ken Heaton (talk) 20:07, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

COTS 2 Edits
I noticed your updates to COTS Demo Flight 2 and its related articles this morning, and just wanted to say great job (on both accuracy and timing)! Thanks for all your work! *Vendetta* (whois talk edits) 10:59, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, now off to my day job with about two-hours of sleep :)--Abebenjoe (talk) 11:03, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

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Sydney, Nova Scotia climate numbers
Hi Abebenjoe, I'm sorry to bother you with this, but at some time when you get a chance, could you posibly take a look at the climate numbers for Sydney, Nova Scotia that you fixed a few months ago. Myself and another editor have done what we could to keep the numbers correct in the face of constant vandalism from an IP editor. However, another IP (probably same person since making same edits to same articles as prebious IP) has changed the numbers and screwed around with the references, only now a bot has come behind the IP and made some changes and I can't figure out how to handle this without also reverting the bots changes which I know will only get me banned. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Thanks. Cmr08 (talk) 22:09, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks Abebenjoe, I just noticed that you fixed the article again. I don't know what the attraction is, but the vandals seem drawn to climate numbers for some reason. Cmr08 (talk) 22:31, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Parkdale (provinicial electoral district)
Hi, I've notice you've done some nice work with the maps for this article. What software did you use to create the maps? EncyclopediaUpdaticus (talk) 18:49, 24 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the compliment. I used OpenOffice-based NeoOffice's draw program and based the images on boundary maps from various sources.--Abebenjoe (talk) 12:30, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

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 * I don't understand your reasoning for keeping this template. Zero articles are using it now, and there is no reason to substitute it because typing the name of the party would be faster than typing the name of the template. —Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 01:32, 15 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I kept it only because I didn't understand why it was being removed. I don't really recall why I created the template, other than I guess I ran into something strange in one of my Ontario political history or political biography articles. Delete it if you wish.--Abebenjoe (talk) 18:58, 16 December 2012 (UTC)


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 * Thank you FWiW Bzuk. Happy New Year.--Abebenjoe (talk) 18:38, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you for quality articles on space flight and Canadian politicians, such as David Lewis, and for sourcing, all started by Bob Dylan, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:07, 8 May 2013 (UTC) A year ago, you were the 478th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:02, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you.--Abebenjoe (talk) 15:44, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Seven years ago, you were recipient no. 478 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

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 * Fixed it. Thanks.--Abebenjoe (talk) 16:20, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

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I'm interested.--Abebenjoe (talk) 15:30, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your interest, I really appreciate it. I am a big fan of seeing the impact of good content on people's lives on all aspects.

Here's my email nawar@helpelves.ca, just drop me a line and we can continue the conversation from there.--Nawarnory (talk) 15:51, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

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 * Thanks, will do.--Abebenjoe (talk) 16:16, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

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The Mother of All Demos, six-dash-years?
In the sentence starting "Over the course of six-years, ...", I'm confused how "the dash is grammatically correct". Are you saying it's an attributive compound? Would that apply to "Goldilocks and the Three - Bears"? --A D Monroe III (talk) 23:16, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * It's an adjective.--Abebenjoe (talk) 03:32, 10 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Adjective of what? If it was "six-year development" or some such, then it could be an adjective.  With the comma following, it's not.  --A D Monroe III (talk) 15:17, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Year.--Abebenjoe (talk) 15:49, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * If six is an adjective to year, then it should not have a dash; we don't routinely dash-link adjectives and nouns except as a complex noun-phrase for clarity. A "new dog-track" means the track is new, while "new-dog track" means the dogs are new.  With only "six" and "year", there's no ambiguity to what "six" applies to, so, I find the dash is needless and confusing.  Again, we don't write "Goldilocks and the Three - Bears".  --A D Monroe III (talk) 19:55, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * From Hyphenation: Part 1 3. When a written-out number or a numeral is joined to a unit of measurement and the resulting compound is used as an adjective, use a hyphen to join the number and its unit of measurement.

the 100-yard dash a ten-day tour a two-minute speech a 40-hour work week --Abebenjoe (talk) 21:03, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The key part of your quoted source is "...and the resulting compound is used as an adjective". That's why all the examples given have three or more words in a noun phrase; "ten-day" is a compound that is an adjective to "tour", and so on.  In this case, your resulting compound "six-years"; it is not used as an adjective of anything.  Thus it should not have a dash, unless (as I stated above) it was something like "six-year development".  --A D Monroe III (talk) 23:50, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

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 * Hi Neopeius, thank you for the recognition. I still edit spaceflight articles, but usually very minor edits related to grammar, spelling, or missing dates or times. Occassionally update SpaceX articles if and when I have time. Had more time to do that ten years ago. Happy New Year! --Abebenjoe (talk) 00:44, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * Sorry about that DBaK (talk). My mind played math tricks on me. 109 years ago is correct, it becomes 110 years in a few months. Best regards, --Abebenjoe (talk) 20:20, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
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I appreciate the improvements you made on CJCB-DT, but some of your edits could use a little work (particularly formatting of references). If you need help, just ask my good friend. She's an expert on articles on TV stations, and she uses Newspapers.com just like you do! Mvcg66b3r (talk) 17:50, 19 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for patrolling TV station pages. The format I use for citations is a standard format, easier to read and edit than if it is inline. The issue I am having with Newspapers.com is that the Wiki library account is that is flakey compared to having a paid account. Using clips is a way that users can see the quoted article for free, but that is exactly where I have been encountering issues. Sometimes my account works and it allows me to clip, other times it does not. Abebenjoe (talk) 18:07, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Abebenjoe Tell me about it. The proxy is extremely flaky—try clearing your cookies—and may actually be phased out in the future (there are a number of Phabricator tickets related to this). I will go through at some point and fix the items by clipping them. Also, very glad to see you tackling an Atlantic Canada station. It's the worst region in North America for Newspapers.com, so heavy use of wire service articles is pretty much a necessity. Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 21:47, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The big issue in Atlantic Canada is that the newspapers haven't allowed their microfiche libraries to be digitized by either Newspapers•com or ProQuest. In fact, I have to use the Toronto Public Library's credentials to use ProQuest for either the Toronto Star or The Globe and Mail. The Wikipedia credentials don't seem to have the rights to view those major Canadian papers. But the really frustrating issue is that the Toronto Public Library did have an extensive microfiche library for the Halifax Chronicle Herald, going back to when they were separate papers. That library collection is no longer viable, as the microfiche was stored poorly, and now has vinegar syndrome. I hope Saltwire, the newish owner of almost all of Atlantic Canada's newspapers, will allow either database to digitize its archives. Most local papers for that area can be searched, with one subscription, to about the turn of this century. But, that's it because that is when they mostly first went online in some fashion. Basically, I'd have to travel to Halifax or Sydney and hit the archives there to do research. If you know the area, that's not why you would travel there. As the moniker on the province's automobile licence plates states "Canada's Ocean Playground." Abebenjoe (talk) 22:10, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

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Reviewing your recent reversion on the Joe Engle article, the recent IP address edit does not appear to be vandalism. I'm concerned that the reversion, especially with the accompanying edit summary, comes across as quite bitey. Please take the time to review those guidelines. Rather than reverting the edit, it would be better to collaborate and integrate those improvements into the article, help the other editor with citations, etc. Even if the improvements were so bad they needed to be reverted outright, then it should be an opportunity for giving civil feedback on a user talk page and without being snarky about it in the edit summary. This is fundamental 5P4 stuff. Finally, your request for page protection was unwarranted. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 04:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)


 * It's an anon IP, and should be seen with suspicion. Engle just died, and the article was relatively mature. New major edits seem to be not advancing the article. I've been editing on Wikipedia for over 17 years, this kind of editing is always suspect, until proven otherwise. Abebenjoe (talk) 05:29, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * They provided multiple sources and assuming good faith should be the starting point. I'm going to urge you again to read all of the guidelines that I've linked here. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 05:46, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Bare URLs. Every other citation was properly formatted. The expectation is that they follow what was previously done. I just made sure the citations were all up to spec, and then this person spewed a whole bunch of bare url citations. No, that's not good faith. Again, anytime it's an anon IP, it's deletable. Anon IPs need to be held to a higher standard for "Good Faith" edits, because, of course, they are anon. I, nor most good faith editors, have the time to read these kinds of opportune edits that actually make the article worse, in terms of how the citations look, if not what they add to the article. If Joe Engle was a far more obscure person, and the anon editor was adding new bare urls, and other information, it might be more tolerable. Not in this case. They can sign up, get an account, and follow citation protocal. Abebenjoe (talk) 06:11, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Daniel, if you take it upon yourself to fix the major issues with the material, don't revert my edit. Fix the actual material, and add it. Abebenjoe (talk) 06:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I believe that's essentially what I had done and what I was continuing to do. If you could you point to any other issues with the recent additions, please let me know so I can make any necessary fixes. Thanks. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 07:06, 12 July 2024 (UTC)