User talk:Abhirup2441139

Your submission at Articles for creation: Arup Das (April 18)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were:

The comment the reviewer left was:

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DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:39, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Abhirup2441139


Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. A tag has been placed on User:Abhirup2441139 requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:42, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Abhirup2441139. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Draft:Arup Das, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
 * propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the edit COI template)—don't forget to give details of reliable sources supporting your suggestions;
 * disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see );
 * avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see );
 * do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:43, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Contested deletion
he person for whom such page is created has been a vital fame in the 1980's-1990's of Indian Football and has been a integral part of the football fraternity for over three decades.


 * If it is the deletion of your user page that you are contesting, then please note that this sort of content is not allowed on user pages, per WP:UP. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)


 * contesting the article submission Abhirup2441139 (talk) 10:10, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * That makes no sense – you're contesting the fact that you submitted an article draft? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I think you are having some misunderstanding Abhirup2441139 (talk) 10:15, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Arup K Das (April 18)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DoubleGrazing was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Arup K Das and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
 * If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/New_question&withJS=MediaWiki:AFCHD-wizard.js&page=Draft:Arup_K_Das Articles for creation help desk], on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DoubleGrazing&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Arup_K_Das reviewer's talk page] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:53, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Arup K Das


A tag has been placed on Draft:Arup K Das requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://www.sportskeeda.com/indian-football/my-father-the-footballer. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If the external website or image belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text or image — which means allowing other people to use it for any reason — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Donating copyrighted materials. The same holds if you are not the owner but have their permission. If you are not the owner and do not have permission, see Requesting copyright permission for how you may obtain it. You might want to look at Wikipedia's copyright policy for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:53, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

April 2024
This is your only warning; if you create an inappropriate page again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. ''Your account was only created yesterday, and since then you have created five different copies of the Arup Das draft, most of them with significant copyright violations. You also have not responded to the conflict-of-interest (COI) query, which I posted here earlier (please do so as your next edit). If you create more copies of this draft, or otherwise continue your tendentious editing, I will be reporting you and you this may result in sanctions. Thank you. --'' DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

ANI discussion
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:56, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

April 2024
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abusing multiple accounts. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. Bbb23 (talk) 13:24, 18 April 2024 (UTC)


 * sir, could you please hear my part of the story, I have not been given even the chance to speak my part sir, I am a completely new editor here and I had no idea of the rules of not having two accounts but I have not been guided and have been constantly discriminated by the reviewer and the article I wrote sir is of an inspirational character in India who has been unnoticed in recent internet times due to very less availability of details in the net and that is the reason for publishing such article. Thinking that maybe a different reviewer would check the article and announce an unbiased opinion i crated the other account and published the same Abhirup2441139 (talk) 13:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia cannot be used for that purpose. If he has been "unnoticed" then we cannot have an article on him, full stop. —Jéské Couriano v^&lowbar;^v  Source assessment notes 15:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * hi, for the longest time I had known this platform to be a Non profit Organisation aimed to provide free information about everything to everyone, did not know it has members who are such insensitive and discriminatory. Thanks for your kind words will definitely be taking a lesson from people like you 😊 Abhirup2441139 (talk) 16:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @Abhirup2441139 I would advise you to be careful with your baseless accusations of discrimination etc. Your drafts were copyright violations, and/or largely promotional, and/or offered no evidence of notability. They were declined and subsequently deleted for these reasons; there was no discrimination involved in any of this. In addition, you have a likely COI issue, which you have only alluded to and not actually disclosed as required, and you were operating multiple accounts against Wikipedia's terms and condition of use. Please do not try to play the victim here. Thank you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:36, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * PS: If you wish to actually appeal your block, you need to do it correctly, as instructed in the block notice. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:37, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * thanks for your concern will take up the matter with appropriate authorities, thanks Abhirup2441139 (talk) 16:01, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Abhirup2441139 (talk) 16:16, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Abhirup2441139 (talk) 16:16, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I have been misguided and had no knowledge of multiple accounts and have no idea of it being used for illegal activities. Abhirup2441139 (talk) 16:19, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

UTRS appeal #87622
is closed. After reading this talk page, I am disinclined to unblock this user. This needs to be explained or withdrawn if it is a legal threat User's ill-founded claim of discrimination, used to justify creating another account to get past the WP:AfC reviewers, is quite off-putting. It shows a lack of understanding as to why the draft was not accepted, and it is not discrimination to hold this user  equally to the same rules as everyone else. It is the opposite of discrimination. &#45;- Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:45, 20 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Link to ANI thread &#45;- Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:53, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @Deepfriedokra hi, thank for your guidance, and to clarify my reply, it was not a legal threat appropriate authority was the appeal system as provided for in Wikipedia. Further in claim for ill founded accusations of discrimination, I was unable to understand the totality of the policies adopted by Wikipedia and mistook it as discrimination, further I would like to add that there is no point in making legal threats and if that were the case a legal complaint would have been filed but I was aware of the policy on legal threats and I apologise if the reply about appropriate authorities was misunderstood. I would be grateful to you for your guidance as I was unaware of the rules on multiple accounts and Notability policy which created the whole incident but I can assure you that there was no Tendentious editing on my part and that allegation against me was uncalled for. Thank you  Abhirup2441139 (talk) 10:57, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Follow the instructions I gave for requesting unblocking where you will need to address all of this. &#45;- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:00, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Abhirup2441139 (talk) 11:23, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

No legal threats
Your recent edits could give Wikipedia contributors the impression that you may consider legal or other "off-wiki" action against them, or against Wikipedia itself. Please note that making such threats on Wikipedia is strictly prohibited under Wikipedia's policies on legal threats and civility. Users who make such threats may be blocked. If you have a dispute with the content of any page on Wikipedia, please follow the proper channels for dispute resolution. Please be sure to comment on content, not contributors, and where possible make specific suggestions for changes supported by reliable independent sources and focusing especially on verifiable errors of fact. Thank you. &#45;- Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:56, 20 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @Deepfriedokra thank you so much for your guidance and support, it was an unfortunate incident and it would have been great if you handled the matter as you have understood my contentions as well as guided me in the right direction. Thank you Abhirup2441139 (talk) 11:06, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Please place new posts at the bottom. 331dot (talk) 11:18, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

User continued violating WP:SOCK and WP:EVADE with ✅ sock,, where they attempted to mislead us about the relationship between the accounts. --Yamla (talk) 11:24, 20 April 2024 (UTC)


 * hi, @Yamla I have no connection to any other accounts here except for the two accounts that I have created here which are blocked I use a shared ISP connection and I have no direct or indirect connection to any other accounts created except abhirup244139 and ad1959, thank you. Abhirup2441139 (talk) 11:29, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Based on the WP:CHECKUSER data, I can confidently say nonsense. --Yamla (talk) 11:33, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @Yamla@331dot@Deepfriedokra It is impossible, I have not created any accounts except the two as disclosed by me and I have been in contact with Wikipedia response team as well where I have exclusively admitted that I will not be creating any further accounts, I hope you understand that I have no idea or means to create another account as my IP has also been blocked Abhirup2441139 (talk) 11:40, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * You'll excuse me if I don't believe you. --Yamla (talk) 11:44, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @Yamla I have no other option, I have waited to appeal again for two days only to be accused of having another account and I can assure you that I will wait two days more to appeal again for the unblocking of the two accounts I have and I can assure you too that I have no intentions to vandalise Wikipedia being a reader and enthusiast of Wikipedia, I would again request you to kindly unblock me as I have accepted my shortcomings and mistakes and misunderstandings and other than one draft I have not used any of the two accounts I have for any ulterior purposes. Thank you Abhirup2441139 (talk) 11:50, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * One thing you have so far not commented on, despite repeated requests, is this: what is your relationship with the subject, Arup Das? (I realise you cannot place a conflict-of-interest disclosure on your user page at the moment, but you can answer the question here, and undertake to post the disclosure if and when allowed to do so.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:11, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * hi, @DoubleGrazing, there has been an article about Arup Das a namesake of the one I was writing about. That article has caused trouble to me and my family multiple times as that person and my father Arup Das who represented international level in football hail from same state and for that reason there has been multiple problems that we have to face in our daily lives as Wikipedia is the most used and freely distributed encyclopaedia. For that purpose it was important for me to publish his article. I apologise for my behaviour but as you can see it was necessary for me to publish it but due to lack of experience in Wikipedia I failed to provide appropriate Notability but I have gathered enough sources and reference now as per Wikipedia standards. Thanks Abhirup2441139 (talk) 12:22, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I hope you can recommend for unblocking me and kindly guide me to publish such articles and other articles related to sports and law in India Abhirup2441139 (talk) 12:24, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I cannot see unblocking you to edit about Arup K Das. If we overlook the sock puppetry, you'd need to describe what other edits you would make. &#45;-  Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:09, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * other than that there are other sports personalities which needs editing and other articles about Indian laws and regulations and enactments Abhirup2441139 (talk) 14:18, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for confirming what I thought all along, that you are writing about a family member. If you do manage to get yourself unblocked, you should make sure to formally disclose your COI as your first edit post-unblocking.
 * And no, I won't be recommending the unblock – and more to the point it wouldn't matter in the slightest if I did, as my recommendations carry no weight around here. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * FWIW, I give great weight to your AfC recommendations. &#45;- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:29, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

WikiAlpha
FWIW, you might want to consider posting your content to WikiAlpha. They pride themselves in posting content deleted from Wikipedia. And articles on WikiAlpha show up on google almost at once. And they don't ask questions. . . . &#45;- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:06, 20 April 2024 (UTC)


 * thank you for the idea, would surely do that but certainly would always be interested to write another article about him in Wikipedia maintain standards and Notability if then also it gets rejected I would definitely try Wiki Alpha, thanks. And as for unblocking I don't see any hope anymore but surely feel that article would have been a good addition to Wikipedia English for Asian viewers especially the subcontinent.  Abhirup2441139 (talk) 14:23, 20 April 2024 (UTC)