User talk:Abhishekug

December 2014
Hello, welcome to the Wikipedia. Your edits to Shiv Sena page have been reverted because they were not constructive. Please discuss your issues on the article's talk page instead of repeated insertion of the content. Repeated attempts without discussion can get you blocked from editing Wikipedia.

I notice that you have reverted the edit yourself the second time. That is good. You can put the information in the Government of Maharashtra page, as I suggested earlier. Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 19:07, 7 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Dear Kautilya3, you removed the edit and information which I had put on our favourite party Shiv Sena's page, but you undone that saying It didn't appear constructive, but the same information regarding the ministers are avaliable on Trinamool Congress Page, why only you think that is constructive and information about our favourite page is not constructive?? waiting for your kindest reply.


 * You are talking about the revert on the 7th December? I have said already it should on the Government of Maharashtra page. Do you see any other party's page that lists all its ministers? (Please remember to sign your comments with ~ . Kautilya3 (talk) 15:56, 28 December 2014 (UTC)


 * See AITC Page, it has list of ministers in state of West Bengal


 * It shouldn't be there. I will tell them to remove it. Kautilya3 (talk) 17:00, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

First you get that done, then remove our information, you are ok with other party showing information of their presence in state and central Government on their page you object only to our favourite party Shiv Sena


 * This is not a contest. I and other users have removed your contentious material based on good article criteria. I notice that you have reinserted it 8 times (or 7, discounting the one that you self-reverted). As such, you are liable to get blocked for edit-warring. It is in your interest to self-revert the list you have inserted this evening. Kautilya3 (talk) 19:23, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Also you make sure if other parties do then our favourite party page can also have the same, and moreover i saw the NDA picture is same as in Maharashtra it has to be brown but it is still orange, in Maharashtra BJP+Shiv Sena is in Power So NDA is in Power, it has to be brown, please don't be biased.


 * Thanks for reverting your edit. While I and others have objected to giving a full list of ministers, it is perfectly fine to include a short summary stating the Shiv Sena's participation in the Government, and how many ministers it has etc. Regarding the other issue you mentioned, it would be best to raise it in the talk page of the article concerned. If you want to say that "NDA" is in power, then you would need a reliable source that says so. Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 21:19, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Dear Kautilya, well in Maharashtra Shiv Sena & BJP is in Power both are partners in NDA see this link http://zeenews.india.com/news/maharashtra/shiv-sena-joins-bjp-govt-in-maharashtra-devendra-fadnavis-ministry-expanded_1509681.html well so it is very much sure that not lone BJP but NDA is in Power in Maharashtra, same is the case with Jharkhand to they share power with AJSU.


 * What you are doing is called "synthesis" wp:syn. It is not permitted on Wikipedia. To say that NDA is in power in Maharashtra, you need to find a source that says exactly that. Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 11:53, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Well so in the case of Andhra, where is the source which says NDA is in power, it is indeed like TDP-BJP shares power so you put in Brown colour, but I see that you are biased for Maharashtra in which Shiv Sena clearly shares power with BJP, BJP is not lone in power but with support of Legislators of Shiv Sena.


 * In Andhra, the Telugu Desam party explicitly joined the NDA during the election campaign. There would be sources that tell you that. In Maharashtra, the Shiv Sena left the NDA during the election campaign. If they have rejoined it, they need to say so explicitly. Only then, we are allowed to say it.Kautilya3 (talk) 12:14, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Dear Kautilya3, see this link in Maharashtra it is indeed NDA in power http://zeenews.india.com/news/maharashtra/shiv-sena-joins-bjp-govt-in-maharashtra-devendra-fadnavis-ministry-expanded_1509681.html well and also if you see the old links though they have contested separately they both remained integral part of NDA at cntre again coming back means what??

Dear Kautilya3, so according to you only BJP is in Power in Maharashtra?? kindly confirm.


 * No everybody knows that there is an alliance in power in Maharashtra. But this alliance cannot be called the "NDA" unless they call it the NDA. So, instead of arguing with me, you could spend your time better by looking for sources that say that it is an NDA. Kautilya3 (talk) 13:50, 29 December 2014 (UTC).

Well its ok, you are biased to our favourite party pag, I will create new page which will give more precise information unbiasd. Thanks. None can deny that Shiv Sena is not in power in Maharashtra.

Kautilya3, well hope you are doing good, but i see you are completely biased to only our party page, Trinamool Congress still has the full list of Ministers on their page, so their information is constructive and if we put it is not?? I think better is I will creata new page for our favourite party with unbiased mindset.


 * Hello Abhishek, I don't belong to any party and I don't favor or unfavor any party. The Shiv Sena page is on my watch list and I defend it against vandalism. As I mentioned, I will look into the TMC page when I am done with my current projects. As I said there is no contest going on here. All pages have to abide by the Wikipedia guidelines. Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 16:37, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Dear Kautilya3, Ok I understand why you are biased to our favourite page, as you can very well see this link n tell me when did NDA broke? did Shiv Sena leave NDA anytime?? it contested Maharashtra Assembly elections seperately thought they remained an important constituent of NDA,


 * Ok, that is a good start. You have started looking into sources. This article (which is not a reliable source because City News is not a mainstream newspaper) basically says that Shiv Sena won't pull out of the "NDA government" at the Centre. But it campaigned independently, quite against the BJP, in Maharashtra. So, we can't say that it is part of NDA in the Maharashtra Assembly. Don't blame me. This is the strangest thing I have seen in all my life even in the very strange world of Indian politics. I am just advising you. Whatever change you want to make in the Government of Maharashtra page, you will have to propose on its talk page and get people's consent. If you don't have a reliable source as I advised, you won't be able to win. That is how things work here. When things are controversial, we need reliable sources to say what we want to say. If they don't exist, we can't say it. Period. Kautilya3 (talk) 19:27, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Dear Kautilya, thanks for your biased approach, but I promise I ll create a new page with more and precise and constructive information indeed I ll do it, you are not the communications minister to decide whose news are mainstream or back stream and also the words said by you is not word of god, I ll indeed create a new page for our favorite party who is really progressing. Thanks. http://indianexpress.com/article/india/politics/anant-geete-rules-out-resignation-says-sena-still-part-of-nda/ well also on TMCs page it has complte list so I too will create the same list if our favourite party is flourishing you have objections while you have no objections to other pages. I will surely create new fresh page for sure. Thanks.


 * That is up to you. Before you create a new page, you might first read wp:POVFORK. If your page is a POV fork, it is bound to get deleted. Kautilya3 (talk) 20:06, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

tHANKS FOR INFORMATION, WELL i LL REFER AND TAKE HELP FROM WIKI HELPLINE AND GUIDANCE SO THAT MY PAGE KEEPS OUR FAVOURITE PARTY'S PAGE WITH FLOURISHING SUCCESSIVE INFORMATION, WHICH WILL INDEED BE CONSTRUCTIVE ALWAYS, cause I see that you are very biased you are ok with TMC has full 100% list of all ministers in WB Government only you have problem with our page. then I ll indeed create a new page. thanks.

Dear Kautilya, well yippie my new page for Shiv Sena is ready, although it is not yet active as i am thoroughly reviewing wiki policies, I have named it as a SHIV SENA PAKSHA, well your biasedness towards our party Shiv Sena is clear as its been long time we spoke regarding ministers on party page, it5s almost 15+ days Trinamool Congress Page it still has entire list, thus you are biased and partial only to our favourite party page. Anyways thanks for bing partial which led a motivation for me to creat a frsh party page which wwill give all thorough informations regarding its ministers in past as well as current, its vote shares in Maharashtra and rest of India since its inception, also its electoral performances in various elections, I have made a very deep survey in which much of the info is ben missed on existing Shiv Sena page, maybe you deliberately migh not have put that, possible. thanks you will soon get to see my 2 versions of full fledged informations of Shiv Sena page.

Sockpuppet investigation
Kautilya3 (talk) 19:17, 28 December 2014 (UTC)