User talk:Abog/Archive 1

This is an archive of discussion on the talk page for User:Abog, from February 2006 to August 31, 2007.

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Blizzard of 1999
Your article Blizzard of 1999 has appeared in the Dead End Pages list because it is not wikified. Please consult the Wikipedia Guide to Layout for more information on how to write a good, wikified article. I would encourage you to revisit your submissions and them. Thanks and happy editing! James084 03:03, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Your edits to Tupac Shakur
Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test of deliberately adding incorrect information worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. - Mysekurity  [m!] 19:07, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. Thanks for citing, though. - Mysekurity  [m!] 17:02, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Your article list on your user page
Hope you don't mind, I renamed the Aerosmith one. Also wanted to tell you you can make category links with a leading colon and the page won't be in the category - Category:Aerosmith songs for example. &mdash; RevRagnarok  Talk Contrib 15:16, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey, no problem. And thanks for the tip.Abog 15:45, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

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Vandalism possibility
User:131.156.238.75 has been editing your user page. If this is in fact you, I highly recommend that you sign in when editing your user page, as this IP address is shared and thus must be watched due to a history of vandalism. --Kukini 17:39, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Templates
I see that you have started creating templates for county information. If you would please follow how they were estabished such as Winnebage County, Illinois, this will keep us all on the same page. We established this one with the Illinois group after seeing how other states are doing theirs. Let me know if you have any questions, or Dual Freq since he is creating them. Thank you!--Kranar drogin 12:10, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I will get with them then about these, and make sure that we have a standard that all of them are following. Honestly, there is no reason to put population sizes down, just list the cities and click them if you want to see the population, know what I mean? I'll keep you posted if you aren't part of the Illinois Project.--Kranar drogin 21:55, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


 * We started discussing it on the Portal Talk Page, but I just started a new one one the Template Talk Page if you are interested in giving your view. Make sure you check out the Main Page to see all of the county templates.--Kranar drogin 15:15, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I am a bit disappointed that you deleted a number of interesting points of interest and major highways in the Kane County template. I would be interested in learning your reasonsRacepacket 00:56, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

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Algonquin, Illinois
I saw you marked Algonquin, Illinois as reading like a tourism guide, having peacock terms, etc. Your main issues in this respect relate to the lead of the article, right? Just wanting to know what to fix. Thanks. I will also try to work so everything's not a bulleted list as well, and reads more like an article. Abog 02:48, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The first paragraph is fine now. Thanks for cleaning it up.  Under Recreation, you might want to change "Nevertheless, the quality of parks, trails, and programs is nearly unmatched."  If you find any magazine articles or websites that you can reference at the bottom, it would make claims in the article more legitimate.  And yes, it would be good to convert some of the bulleted lists to paragraphs.  --Vossanova o&lt; 15:08, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Aerosmith's outtakes
An editor has nominated Aerosmith's outtakes, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not"). Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you. Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. Jayden54Bot 13:36, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Aerosmith in popular culture
An article that you created, Aerosmith in popular culture, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Aerosmith in popular culture Thank you. SkierRMH 08:59, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Steven Tyler
Please do not add unhelpful and non-constructive information to Wikipedia. Your edits could be considered vandalism, and they have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. --Rotring 12:48, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * You are absolutely right, I made a mistake; when seeing this diff I (stupidly, I must say) assumed that the content removed by 137.36.19.10 had been put by you (since the previous edit was a vandalism revertion by me, and I hadn't seen that content). I'm sincerely sorry. --Rotring 17:16, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * No worries. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. ;) --Rotring 18:27, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

New WikiProject Illinois Collaboration Division
Hey, saw you were a participant in the Illinois WikiProject. I thought I would let you know that there is a new Collaboration Division up for the project. The goal of the division is to select an article or articles for improvement to Good article standard or higher. There is a simple nomination process, which you can check out on the division subpage, to make sure each candidate for collaboration has enough interested editors. This is a good way to get a lot of articles to a quality status quickly. Please consider participating. More details can be seen at the division subpage. IvoShandor 11:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:Lake in the Hills neighborhoods
I do not doubt that the info you are putting up there is accurate, BUT in order for this page to become a legit page there has to be information citable for each and every fact that is posted. I mean, you can leave it up there, that is fine, you will just have to find webpages or maps or anything that is citable for the article. Until the information is confirmed, the article will never really get above a START accessment, so I am trying to help you by putting that tag up there for anyone with information or links to cite the info. That is all, not a personal slight or anything of that nature. I look at all articles as someday reach atleast "B" grade, so I would rather have the cites now rather than later. I am sure you can find something about that place on the net.--Kranar drogin 20:34, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Michael Jackson
Hello, I just wanted to let you know that the "King of Pop" label for Michael Jackson is cited later on in the article. I explained this in my revert as well. Furthermore, as I also explained in the revert, the whole point of including it in the lead without a citation is that it's such a famous nickname that the general public would be able to recognize it. Citations are generally useful when a point of controversy might arise, a scenario that does not apply here.UberCryxic 04:56, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Regarding edits to Aerosmith's achievements and awards
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Fair use rationale for Image:Bon jovi living in sin.jpg
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Aerosmith image
You seem to be very, very unfamiliar with our fair use policy. I am afraid that it is broken- we are using a non free image, when it is not absolutely necessary. We are here to create a free encyclopedia- not gather pretty images from around the Internet. J Milburn 18:17, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I am afraid you are wrong. Even if there were no obvious replacements available, because an image could reasonably be created, our fair use policy does not allow the one we currently have. Your argument about it being only a guideline is a valid one, I suppose. Perhaps if you had provided a full, detailed, correctly formatted fair use rationale to the image in question, with details about why this conveys information that a free image could never do, we would be talking more about whether this particular case is an exception. As it stands, saying 'It is only a guideline, so I don't care.' Isn't going to get you anywhere. Replacing the image with just the logo would be an option- obviously, no free version of that could be created, yet it deserves a place within the article. J Milburn 18:53, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I have re-added the deletion tag, as well as adding a tag to say that you disagree with the deletion nomination. Allow the deletion procedure to run its course. You may also want to state your case on the image talk page. J Milburn 21:12, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Aerosmith
I've added you on the WP:P/D as maintainer for the Aerosmith Portal. If you can help it would be much appreciated. I'd like you to know that I've started an Aerosmith WikiProject. Please join and become a member. Janadore 09:52, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject invitation
Thank you for the invite, I gladly accept. Cheers. 23:50, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Round and Round (Aerosmith song)
I have added a "" template to the article Round and Round (Aerosmith song), suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. --DCrazy talk/contrib 13:25, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

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Aerosmith discography
This page contains a gallery of copyrighted album covers. This is against our fair use rules, as I have explained in detail here. Normally, I would just remove the images, but this page has formatting which would not convert well to list format, and so I ask that you rewrite the page as a table, without the images. If this isn't done in a few days, I will remove the images myself, and convert the gallery into a clumsy list. J Milburn 16:29, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I am not against the use of album covers in articles about the albums, or the use of a few inline elsewhere, where it is appropriate. However, a gallery of fair use images, which is what we have in a discography article that shows the cover of every release by the band, is blatantly against Wikipedia's policies. Just because something is fair use in one place, does not mean that it is not fair use in another. I have already consulted several other administrators (if that is what you mean by the 'top dogs') on the subject, and they all agreed with me. My reason for the removal of these images (not their deletion, I agree they are needed, in some places) is not the fact that other discography articles do not have them, it is because it is against our fair use rules. Our rules aren't even the most stringent- de.wikipedia does not even allow fair use images. These album covers do not help us towards our goals- nowhere in our fundamental principles and targets does it say that the articles have to be pretty. It does say they have to be as free as possible, and so that is the goal I am aiming for in these image removals. J Milburn 17:12, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Firstly, articles should contain absolutely minimal fair use material. This is not a crakdown 'all of a sudden', it is just me seeing a problem and trying to fix it. Often, Wikipedians get into bad habits, and people just accept it, because they can't be bothered doing anything about it, or have other priorities. As for your 'fair use in one place, so fair everywhere'- I am afraid you are just wrong there. We can't just place a picture everywhere because it is fair use on one article- in fact, for every article it is used in, there needs to be a detailed fair use rationale of why it is fair in that particular article. Also, I am not quite sure how you think that I am not making the encyclopedia more free- on some discography pages, most of the article is taken up by non-free pictures- deleting them certainly makes it more free. Galleries of fair use images are strictly not allowed- I will say it again, as I mentioned in the essay- this is very similar to the episode list debate. That eventually came to the conclusion that the images were definately not allowed, and there was large scale removal. There is no large scale removal here, just me clipping them back where possible, and perhaps a few other users cleansing if they come across one by chance. J Milburn 17:06, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:You_Can_Look_At.jpg
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Image:Aerosmith_Crazy.jpg
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Category:Shopping centers in Chicago
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