User talk:Aboutmovies/archive7

Gramlee
I saw the tag you placed on the Gramlee page. I'm afraid I totally don't understand your criticisms of the page. Please explain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Casadega (talk • contribs) 17:17, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Rice Northwest Museum of Rocks and Minerals
I have just seen Rice Northwest Museum of Rocks and Minerals (which you wrote) while doing new page patrol and I was amazed by the quality of the article. It is one of the most well referenced, good quality pages I have ever seen linked from Special:NewPages. As a result, I have to give you this barnstar:

--Anonymous101 (talk) 08:29, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Sam Adams
Please join this discussion. I think it provides a useful start for dispute resolution. Thanks. David in DC (talk) 02:56, 17 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for joining the discussion. The ability to disagree without being disagreeable is all-too-rare. We disagree, and each of us has put our points out there for uninvolved editors to opine upon or otherwise help with dispute resolution. That's how it's supposed to work. I appreciate your approach. David in DC (talk) 16:11, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I got a wikify flag on the Article "Walter Rojas Perez" that I put online. I tried to make a few changes. Do you think that you can have a look and help me? Thank you for your time and help. Best, --Ambientalismo (talk) 07:22, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Monroe Sweetland
--Dravecky (talk) 07:48, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Henry Weinhard
--Dravecky (talk) 11:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Wayne L. Morse United States Courthouse
--Dravecky (talk) 22:43, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Mark Hatfield: "In a Democratic Year"
I have commented on the use of "in a democratic year" on the Talk:Mark Hatfield page. Please comment there so that a consensus can be reached.Naraht (talk) 15:39, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

McMillan Academy of Law
Thanks for the welcome! I've just about finished rewriting the new McMillan Academy of Law page. Does it meet Wikipedia standards? (Grokthought (talk) 00:07, 24 February 2009 (UTC))

How to upload pictures into my article
I want to upload pictures into my article. I read the policies and guidelines which seem to indicate that I should load them into English Wikipedia in the "Special:Upload" link. When I hit that link it says I must be one of three users. So what do I have to do to upload photos that I found on Google Images?

Thanks for a response, Loveoandn (talk) 07:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks and Need Further Info on Uploading Pictures
So I want to use photos of television actresses that have been put out by the networks and magazines. Even perhaps a jpeg of a magazine cover. Are those acceptable images under the fair use policy, especially if I note that they are critical commentary or those other terms in the policy? And follow requirements of the fair use policy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loveoandn (talk • contribs) 08:00, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Africa Project Tagging
Thank you for tagging articles for AfricaProject. Please be aware, though, of the difference between the nations of Nigeria and its northern neighbor Niger. I've corrected the nation tag on Talk:High Council for Communication (Niger), but please double check any others you have done. Thanks again. T L Miles (talk) 15:50, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Reedville Creek Park
--Dravecky (talk) 08:06, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

My wiki article is not displaying on google
I don't know if you will be able to help me, but when I google my article named "Otalia" (well it's been renamed to Olivia Spencer and Natalia Rivera and now Otalia is a redirect, but same problem exists), it is not displayed on google. Even when I type - Otalia-wikipedia (or the new title)- it does not show up in google. When I enter the new title in google just the separate character articles show up in google. When I use the same format for other articles, they show up in google. Are you able to help me?

Loveoandn (talk) 00:23, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Hello! there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath and respond there as soon as possible.

botfight!
On the Pulpit Rock page, you removed the orphan tag for a second time- it was added by the orphan bot both times. The orphan template criteria states it's supposed to be removed once there are THREE incoming links. I suspect that's why it has added the template back. Just telling you before this man-machine conflict turns ugly. tedder (talk) 07:13, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's funny. There is a WikiProject out there for orphans and I caught one of them removing a tag from an article with one, as the tag says "none or few" or whatever. I then brought it up on the project's talk page and they had a consensus that one was enough and the tag needed to be changed. Oh well. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:15, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe there's a special exception for you or for anyone dealing with the WPOregon stuff :-) tedder (talk) 07:25, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I just noticed this and was wondering how many links are enough, as there has been a proliferation of bot-edits cluttering up my (and the project's) watchlist. Is it safe to remove the tag from Pulpit Rock again or what? Is the bot separate from the project and has anyone had a chat with the bot owner? I'm all for Building the Web, but 3 incoming links as a threshold seems a bit high for some articles. I'd be willing to settle for 2, but it seems like this bot thing is going to encourage shoehorning links into articles where they don't necessarily belong just to get the bot called off... Katr67 (talk) 19:25, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I have not idea what the orphans are doing, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Orphanage. It is full of the same complaints and what not. Personally, if there are 2 links I will remove the tag. Some of these articles will eventually have more incoming links as we actually build the web (wikilinks don't build the web, we the editors do IMO). They only reasons behind this IMO is better Google rankings, as the search function is rather effective in finding articles (plus it seems it should be on the talk page as it has nothing to do with article quality, its an internal matter). But time for third link for the rock. Aboutmovies (talk) 19:50, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Shiny thing
Thank you very much. I'm planning to nominate Forest Park for GA in April, and I hope to work Tryon Creek up to that level later in the year. Ruhrfisch has pointed out that the four Portland creek/slough FAs plus a Tryon Creek GA might make a qualifying featured topic. I'm giving this some thought. Pete looks about ready to nominate Columbia River for FA, and Hillsboro is good to go. All of this is pleasing. Another thought: I should be sending you an award for all the excellent work that you do. You seem to be everywhere. It made me very happy, for example, to discover your photo of the Sheridan bridge just when I needed it. Finetooth (talk) 15:12, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem with the pics, its a hobby. FYI I just started the Hillsboro FA, so hopefully we can get a batch through in the next few months. To quote Homer Simpson, Keep on Truckin. Aboutmovies (talk) 23:13, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Hillsboro
Just saw your note. It's nearing midnight, and I must stop for the nonce. I'll read through Hillsboro again ASAP tomorrow morning. Finetooth (talk) 07:38, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. Time to work on prepping some GA candidates to make March "Promotion Month," brought to you by caffeine and procrastination! Aboutmovies (talk) 08:00, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I proofed the whole article again this morning and made some nit-picky changes that I hope are improvements. One thing that concerns me but that I didn't change is the table in the Education section. MoS seems to prefer straight prose to tables created simply for layout reasons, and this particular table might meet with scowls at FAC. It would be easy to turn the table into straight prose, which I'd be happy to do if you agree. Finetooth (talk) 17:26, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the work, it looks good. With the table, I say leave it for now. If they comment on it, then we can convert it to prose. Its not like the article is lacking much prose already and there are only two other tables in use. Hopefully we'll get more feedback/support soon. Thanks again. Aboutmovies (talk) 22:09, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with you about the education table. Ironically, my weather table is causing trouble. I agree with User:Ealdgyth that a dot-com is suspect, and I can't think of a way to show that this one is reliable. I've sent messages seeking advice from a couple of the hurricane project people and a couple of others. If nothing useful turns up, we can revert to your earlier text-based version. I remember wondering about the other site, Peter Toth, that Ealdgyth questions. It's a dot-com too, and the RS question is fair. The People citation should be sufficient by itself if it supports the specific Hillsboro claim. Finetooth (talk) 17:57, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I took care of the statue cites. The People one was actually providing the name of the sculptor's project and time frame, and didn't mention Hillsboro. With the weather, it would be great to keep the table and just find an alternate data source. When I have a chance I'll try to track some down if your hurricane folks aren't able to help. Aboutmovies (talk) 18:53, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * They came through, and all is fixed, as you have probably seen. The Weather Channel is the answer. Another hurdle cleared. Finetooth (talk) 19:45, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, great work. Aboutmovies (talk) 20:02, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Next hurdle. User:Ruhrfisch has just sent me a couple of notes about the underlying copyright of the Toth statue. He's right, and I just missed it even though you had pointed out the "no right of panorama" problem when I photographed the Katz statue. You can see Ruhrfisch's notes on my talk page; it's possible that a fair use rationale would work, but I'm not certain. Finetooth (talk) 20:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * But the plot thickens. Toth's piece was created in 1987, and since it is on public display was thus published that year. At that time some formalities still applied under US copyright law, which were removed in March 1989 due to the joining of the Berne Convention to bring US law in line with other members. So, as far as I know, there is no copyright notice of the sculpture, it was published prior to the removal of formalities of notice, thus it has entered the public domain. Aboutmovies (talk) 21:10, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm no expert on these matters, but the Wikipedia page here seems to say that the 1978 (rather than 1987) cutoff applies to the idea of public display as publication, but publication doesn't mean the end of copyright protection. For that, the art must have been created before 1923. Or at least that is my reading of all this head-cracking stuff.  Finetooth (talk) 22:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Linking out from that you will see under "Works First Published in the U.S." for the time frame we are talking about. And Toth did not register, only his book is registered. The 1978 is the date that after which you no longer had to register the work to receive protection (still need to to sue though). This is one of the reasons why copyright law is some complicated. With publication, if you published without registering pre-1978, it was public domain. Most of what Wikipedia/Commons does is use the dates for certainty. As in everything pre-1923 you are safe on. After that, something could still end up being public domain because the copyright wasn't renewed, or published without the (c) notice, or without registration. Aboutmovies (talk) 22:31, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * See this template. Aboutmovies (talk) 22:51, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. Holy Toledo. It's a lovely photo, and I'm glad it's not endangered. Finetooth (talk) 23:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Tualatin River National Wildlife Refuge
Shubinator (talk) 04:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

TEMPLAR?
Doesn't this qualify as templating the regulars? tedder (talk) 07:08, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

More Hillsboro
I see that User:Dabomb87 has begun reviewing the text and has made several suggestions. Just give me a nudge if you'd like any help. Finetooth (talk) 19:46, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the offer, I think I took care of everything. Aboutmovies (talk) 08:44, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for welcome note. Hope to learn a lot from your experiences. (Jokasta (talk) 05:43, 8 March 2009 (UTC))

On Juan Manuel Burgos Velasco´s article...
Hi! Thank you for your welcoming message. I need your help to change the article´s name because this author is usually looked up without his last surname. Could you please tell me how to change it to "Juan Manuel Burgos" only?. This way people looking up for his work and don't know his second surname will get th information their looking for. Thank´s again Karlamollinedo (talk) 18:48, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for your incredibly fast and accurate respondKarlamollinedo (talk) 03:39, 9 March 2009 (UTC)!

GAN for Rice Northwest Museum of Rocks and Minerals
I've reviewed the article and left notes on the talk page. I've put the nomination on hold for seven days to allow the issues to be addressed. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, here, or on the article talk page with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:07, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

A DYK for me?
Hey, I hope school and/or procrastinating are treating you well. Can you take a look at Independence Historic District (Independence, Oregon) and let me know how much more I need to add to it to do a DYK? I can add info about some of the individual buildings, various hops barons and especially, if I can find something reliable, something about some of the buildings that are supposedly haunted. If I can't have ghosts, I think I can make something interesting out of "Hop Capital of the World". I'll have to make a trip to the library though. There's surprisingly little on-line about the place. The Internet means everybody just copies each other's info... Thanks for the 1920 street view pic too! If ya got anything else, lemme know. I've just got one other shot of the pink house, since I felt it was cliche to take pictures of main street, alas. If it isn't bloody snowing this weekend, I might pop out there for some pics. It's about time for me to find more money by the side of Highway 22...And hit Burgerville. Cheers! Katr67 (talk) 16:44, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

PSU SBA account
Doesn't User:PSU SBA fall under WP:NOSHARE? What should be done about such a situation? tedder (talk) 22:56, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't see any evidence of more than one person using the account (it's likely just one marketing person), so it wouldn't fall under NOSHARE. But the username policy generally prohibits names like this, which EncMstr usually takes care of by blocking them. For me though, tagging the article and leaving the note on their talk page takes care of the problem about 75% of the time. After all, their work on Wikipedia is now done, they got their article up ;). Aboutmovies (talk) 07:22, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Just saw this—must have overlooked them on recent Oregon article changes. They are now blocked, with encouragement to create a proper username.  —EncMstr (talk) 08:00, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Aboutmovies (talk) 09:53, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

File:Skatekidsroofsalemoregon2.JPG
Hi. I note you tagged File:Skatekidsroofsalemoregon2.JPG as redundant of File:Skatekidsroofsalemoregon.JPG, but the two pictures are different. I've removed the speedy tag for now but wanted to let you know in case you had mixed up the redundant file name. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:10, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, thanks for clarifying. In this case, I believe that "redundant" means identical, as WP:CSD says, "Any unused media file that is a copy, in the same file format and same or lower quality/resolution, of another file on Wikipedia." If I'm understanding the criterion correctly and the image is simply unneeded because there is a similar one that serves its purpose better, it might be better to take it through WP:FfD (awkward initials; I liked IfD better), unless the uploader would like to tag it for deletion under WP:CSD. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:45, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

NowCommons: File:HallStonerLusk.jpg
File:HallStonerLusk.jpg is now available on Wikimedia Commons as Commons:File:Hall Stoner Lusk.jpg. This is a repository of free media that can be used on all Wikimedia wikis. The image will be deleted from Wikipedia, but this doesn't mean it can't be used anymore. You can embed an image uploaded to Commons like you would an image uploaded to Wikipedia, in this case:. Note that this is an automated message to inform you about the move. This bot did not copy the image itself. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 13:40, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Benjamin Franklin Burch
Saw your article on Benjamin Burch. Since he died 1893, am pretty sure photo on your second source is public domain--but even if that's not certain, it could still be used under Fair Use rule since Burch is dead and no alternative is available. Have standard text I tailor/use for Fair Use rationale if your interested.--Orygun (talk) 00:46, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the offer. I too have a standard form for the fair use/dead guy. I always err on the safe side, so unless I know it was published after 1923, I go fair use. I had hoped to find a free image in an old book and avoid the fair use part as well as the poor quality of the archives one, but never found one. So thanks for reminding me about the archives one. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:06, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Infobox Liberia District
I improved Template:Infobox Liberia District and its documentation page, which you created. In the template itself they were absolutely minimal. In the documentation page this included removing a template loop. Hope you like it. Debresser (talk) 13:40, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Port of Portland
The pic looks good. I never thought of using it that way. Glad you did. I don't have any that would be better. I had the slough and the park on my mind that day, and catching the port upstream was more-or-less accidental. Finetooth (talk) 20:08, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. Aboutmovies (talk) 21:08, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

GA Review for Betty Roberts
Hi there. The GA Review for Betty Roberts is done. Diderot&#39;s dreams (talk) 04:09, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Medorem Crawford
--Dravecky (talk) 07:06, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Diane Downs
Thanks for reverting me, my math totally failed me this morning. I appreciate your fixing my error, thanks again, -- Crohnie Gal Talk  11:34, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem, I almost reverted the IP editor myself until I did the math and found out the article has been wrong for awhile. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:43, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

George G. Bingham
Thanks for creating the George G. Bingham page. Article looks fact based and well referenced. Armadude (talk) 14:47, 16 March 2009 (UTC)Armadude

Hyphens and their cousins
I saw the new comments. Most of the hyphens were already correct, but east–west was an exception, and maybe a couple of others slipped through. I remember changing some en dashes to hyphens a few weeks ago, and I might have unwittingly changed a couple of east–west beasties to hyphens while on autopilot. It's no big deal. I'll check them again later today. Finetooth (talk) 15:09, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Most of the original hyphens were correct, and I restored them. I found a couple more east–west (or similar) combos to join with en dashes, and I en-dashed the two NRHP places with two-family names. I hadn't noticed those before. Finetooth (talk) 16:20, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

My userpage pictures
Thanks for the note. I would have no problem with you deleting the pictures that I uploaded which are not in use on Wikipedia articles. Please note that some pictures on my userpage are indeed used on Wikipedia articles, and there are some articles which use cropped versions of pictures on my userpage. At any rate, I agree that my userpage is unweidly and I'd like many of the pictures to be deleted. And while we're at it, you may have noticed that I have changed usernames (simply added "Olivo" in there). Would it be possible to delete the user page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andrew_Parodi to be deleted altogether? Thanks. -- Andrew Olivo Parodi (talk) 04:18, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Question
Hi there! I know you are not a participant of the WikiProject Anime and Manga. But I have a question which where I am quite clueless about.

Can I suggest a mangaka's article to be assessed at the Project's Assessment page? (In this situation: Yuki Kure.)

Thanks, Amaya Sakura (talk) 08:51, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

George Steel
Geesh, I said I would do it. :P Katr67 (talk) 06:20, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I know, but saw you got busy with some copyediting, and it was a little item I could do without many of my sources handy on the road. Now you have more time for Ballston. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:30, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm gonna do Culp Creek first. Damn Ballston boosters... Katr67 (talk) 06:52, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Lauralee Martin
You added this page to the Oregon State University alumni category. The page is up for speedy deletion. Perhaps you can help keep it alive. Closetindex (talk) 23:15, 21 March 2009 (UTC)closetindex

Tualatin River National Wildlife Refuge
Hi, I saw your listing on GAC. If nobody grabs it up in the next few days, I may do it. Viriditas (talk) 11:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Laurelwood Academy
--Dravecky (talk) 18:14, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Hillsboro image questions
I have tried to address the map questions raised by User:Jappalang at FAC, and I think I my fix might be acceptable. I posted an explanatory note to FAC after making changes to the map description at the Commons. The Shute questions I leave to you. If for any reason the free-use rationale fails, we can probably use a fair-use rationale that would be acceptable. Finetooth (talk) 16:45, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Success. I think I want you to be my lawyer. Finetooth (talk) 01:33, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

nitpick
On .. do you mind changing your comment from "work for higher" to "work for hire"? tedder (talk) 12:31, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

thanks
Thank you for your comments and editing. Right now I don't have any questions, but when I start to edit the text I may have some. I will let you know. Right now I'm at the point of trying to understand the new possibilities. {Sfinks05 (talk) 19:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)};

Oregon Government 2.0
Hi. A while ago, you expressed interest in the effort to put state works in the public domain. The central hub for that has moved to a PDX Wiki Wednesday page, and now there's a discussion forum. We have made quite a bit of progress, but we are hopelessly short on active members. If you're still interested, I urge you to get involved. Please check out the PDX Wiki Wednesday page and the forum for the progress we've made so far, and other info. Thanks! — Athelwulf [T]/[C] 21:37, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

But really, how would you know?
That there haven't been any gay judges in the District of Oregon, that is? bd2412 T 03:27, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * That just means you know of the openly gay judges on the Oregon Supreme Court (and that there have been no openly gay judges on the District Court). bd2412  T 16:52, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Given your experience in working the District of Oregon towards GA status, I'd appreciate your input into United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri. bd2412  T 23:06, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Thomas R. Cornelius
The article Thomas R. Cornelius you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. It hasn't failed because it's basically a good article, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Thomas R. Cornelius for things needed to be addressed. Ray Talk 23:15, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I passed it. Congrats! Ray  Talk 22:15, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Over the top
It was feeling like "The Little Engine That Could" for a while, but Hillsboro, Oregon, just chugged to the top of the last grade. It was good working with you on this one. I look forward to more. I remember you sent me a list of about five possibilities, including Hillsboro. I'll have to look over the list again to see which looks most fetching. Finetooth (talk) 00:56, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * And I thank you for the barnstar. You deserve one too, not only for your work on Hillsboro but for your amazing contributions to WikiProject Oregon. Finetooth (talk) 14:21, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Many thanks
Hello Aboutmovies. Many thanks for welcoming me and for your helpful tips. I will certainly use them. My main interest is the US economy and its companies, so I think I will have a lot to write about.

I recently posted my first article on Acme United Corporation. So if you care to give me some feedback, I would certainly appreciate it. I also posted a feedback request on the proper “Requests for Feedback” page. Many thanks again. Caea8937 (talk) 20:53, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your welcome from me too. I'm still a novice contributor to Wikipedia. Your feedback is welcomed. Jeremybennett (talk) 08:25, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I stopped by to thank you as well, but no sense wasting an appropriate header. I apologize for my initial density regarding the external links matter. bd2412  T 17:11, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Parish L. Willis
--Dravecky (talk) 08:59, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Randy Leonard
It probably wasn't your intention, but your recent edit to Talk:Randy Leonard removed several useful templates. Please be careful when editing that you don't accidentally remove useful information in the process. Thank you. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 21:46, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Shane Bemis, Gresham Mayor - Notability
There are now several external references, perhaps better establishing notability. Frank1ray (talk) 01:27, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

re Sockpuppet I think
I would recommend reporting it to WP:SPI. Cirt (talk) 23:59, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank you for the welcome. It made me feel at home. Love Dyllanne (talk) 15:24, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

EL theory
This revert/edit: my theory is as follows: Those are my thoughts, at least. tedder (talk) 07:02, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * the duplicated EL is the right way to go for important stuff from the infobox. This is how most articles appear to be, both in and outside of the school articles.
 * the inappropriate ELs: outpostcenters might be okay, but not the alumni association; that's no different than a fansite.

I copied the above to my talk page so we could have a quasi-centralized discussion- so feel free to remove the above discussion if you want. tedder (talk) 15:16, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

BRD heads up on a Medford school
Obviously, not looking for support, just eyeballs and your opinion. Talk:St._Mary's_School_(Medford,_Oregon) tedder (talk) 01:57, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Oregon Ducks football
Hi, I'm not a member of WikiProject Oregon, but I recently outlined a task list in the Oregon Ducks football talk page that I hope to get feedback on. I noticed that WP Oregon does collaborations of the week. I remember seeing one done on an article and there were a ton of changes on more minor stuff. Unfortunately, I believe this page needs a major overhaul and I'm not sure if a COTW is the right way to go at this point? I did notice that this article has already been nominated for a COTW, and hopefully with a task list it can go more smoothly. The article is rated as top-importance, so I felt that WP Oregon would be a good place to look for input...and it seems like you're the guy to ask when it comes to WP Oregon.Cluskillz (talk) 18:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Congrats
…on yet another GA, for Norma Paulus! I'll add it to the list of Oregon GA's, and take it off our to-do list. -Pete (talk) 16:19, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Francis/Frances
Hi Aboutmovies. Thanks for your attention to my new page. The proper spelling of the name is Francis, not Frances. How can we best get the page to have the right heading? Thanks, WikiGolightly (talk) 08:20, 16 April 2009 (UTC)WikiGolightly


 * Thanks for your additional help. Am I placing my talk comments in the correct place? WikiGolightly (talk) 08:39, 16 April 2009 (UTC)WikiGolightly


 * Got it. Looks good. Thanks again.WikiGolightly (talk) 09:00, 16 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh no. It looks like a bunch of revisions I made tonight -- I mean lots, with new sections and significant additions woven into existing text -- got lost in the move. I cut and pasted a copy of the most recent (as edited by me) page into a Word document, so I didn't lose the changes altogether. But given the distaste for cutting and pasting, how can I get the new content back onto the page without going through both versions with a fine-tooth comb? By the way, I don't expect any controversy here -- he was beloved in his day, but no one has heard anything in decades. We want to summarize the info that's out there so people can learn about him again. I'll add references to printed archived materials tomorrow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiGolightly (talk • contribs) 09:20, 16 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Did you look at the page history. Edits don't usually "get lost" during moves. More likely, someone else edited the article since you created it. So yes, you do need to go over the article with a finetooth comb, as I stated on your talk page. Katr67 (talk) 17:53, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Help with research on new article about Oregon attorney?
I created Charles H. Turner (attorney) - you are a good researcher on Oregon and law-related topics, and any help with research on additional sources of biographical information would be most appreciated. Cheers, Cirt (talk) 14:43, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I was able to find a bit more interesting info, for example that he hired two prosecutors that went on to become U.S. Attorney for Oregon - Michael Mosman and Mark Bailey (attorney). Thanks very much for these pointers you gave me, this will be very helpful! Cirt (talk) 19:44, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Alexander Hamilton Bowman

 * Thanks for the nom. It's my first DYK (after four years of editing). BusterD (talk) 21:52, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Regarding my first entry.
Please forgive any 'newbie' missteps. I was wondering if you could advise me regarding Execute! (game). It is my first entry and I fear it may have been less than notable. Any advise you could lend would be greatly appreciated. I thought about merging it with dice chess. Perhaps this game is truly not yet noteworthy. Thanks in advance. Ddrehs (talk) 03:40, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

COTW
Thank you for the kind words and the award. I enjoy working on the COTWs and other Oregon articles with the help of a great team of editors, including you. Finetooth (talk) 17:56, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Upper and Lower Table Rock
Hello! there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath and respond there as soon as possible.

TenAsys company entry
Hello, saw the note about lacking notability, please review again, references have been added. Also, can you address the advertisement tag added by "nothingofwater"? Or should I be addressing that directly with him/her? I'm not that clear, yet, on how such tasks are assigned to administrators and what the resolution policy is. Thanks in advance, --XMNboy (talk) 01:08, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi, thanks for the welcome! I'm starting to read through the informative and useful articles mentioned in your message. Regards! Benkid77 (talk) 16:44, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Algoma
If DYK folks want more interesting hook, might try this: "... that the tugboat that towed log rafts across Upper Klamath Lake to the Algoma lumber mill in Algoma, Oregon is now on display in the Collier Memorial State Park logging museum?" Also FYI, here's photo of Algoma's mill pond as it is today.--Orygun (talk) 00:48, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I had thought about the tugboat, but thought it was more about the company than the town, but your option seems to make it work, so I added it. Great job with the expansion. Aboutmovies (talk) 19:47, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

img feedback
I posted on katr67's talk page too, but this is my first image upload to Commons. Any comments about the categories, photo info, or anything else? I have more to post, so I want to do it right. And thanks for fixing the image template. I knew it was wrong, but that was as close as I could get to correcting it. tedder (talk) 15:13, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

thumbs thanks
Thanks for fixing my thumbnails...I knew they weren't quite right but couldn't remember that tag. Also for adding the pic to the DYK. I thought this morning to add the pic, but you had already done it! Cool. --Esprqii (talk) 17:20, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

wait, what?
sure about that? tedder (talk) 07:05, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I have no idea how that happened, thanks for catching my error. Probably the stupid touchpad on my laptop. I reverted my revert. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:09, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand. I could have fixed it but it's more fun to punish mistakes :-) tedder (talk) 07:14, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Quick Question
Hi, I'm going to nominate this page for a DYK, and I'm not sure if I'm supposed to add it to May 1, when I started expanding it, or May 5, right now. Since you obviously know a lot about DYKs, I thought I'd ask you. Thanks,  L ITTLE M OUNTAIN  5  review! 00:37, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Never mind, Art LaPella answered me.  L ITTLE M OUNTAIN  5  review! 01:12, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

portland-area linkspam
Chawman69 added his links to two more pages today. Can you consider blocking him for a while? He's had plenty of warnings and personal messages. tedder (talk) 23:18, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

On the beach
Wow, it's hard to believe that KBCH is my 25th article about Oregon radio stations that have made it through the DYK process in the last two months. There are a couple more in the pipeline, mixed in with article from other states, but I'll be back to Oregon before too long. There are still some FM station in need of articles and some of the existing AM articles are barely stubs so I'll not lack for room to work for quite a while. - Dravecky (talk) 18:34, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK on Clatskanie High School?
Can you help me get a DYK on Clatskanie High School? I spent a lot of time researching it, it's new, and I've never done one before. tedder (talk) 15:05, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

woot!
Congrats! Does that mean you still need to pass the bar? tedder (talk) 22:05, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, I was about to say, re: Woot! myself! Are you Aboutmovies, Esq. now? Katr67 (talk) 23:24, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and now's a good time to substitute TINLA for IANAL. tedder (talk) 23:27, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I only need to pass the bar if I want to practice law with a license. It is perfectly illegal to practice law without a license in most places. Plus I don't need to pass the bar since Obama is going to be appointing me soon to a recent opening on a certain court. He saw all my DYKs and said to Michelle, "Damn, we need that dude on the court!" Oh, and thank you all, sincerely, Dr. Aboutmovies, Esq. Aboutmovies (talk) 23:47, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Stan Bunn
I thought your hook for Stan Bunn was amusing, although I can't really comment on the BLP angle as that all seems too messy! 1400 separate violations! Good work that man! Bigger digger (talk) 23:16, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

lewis rose
i asked the person's secretary who the article was about - to help put links into material already written... I didn't realize this would create a conflict I asked her to undo all of those - i think it's done Does that elminate the conflict?

Also not sure which words are buzzwords....nothing in here seems to match the buzzword definition.. any help appreciated

Jet411 (talk) 19:31, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * "track record of growing shareholder value and rapid turn-around results through effective business evaluation, redefined corporate strategies, aligned stakeholder commitment and profitable growth." isn't buzzwords? I think it is. Also, given that there are secondary sources, I don't think that the conflict is as big of a problem. Just be careful not to make the article promotional in tone. Ten Pound Hammer , his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 19:35, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

University of Valle
Greetings. I've noticed the message in the University of Valle talk page. If you can, could you please check the article for style and spelling? Thanks. -Andremun (talk) 19:33, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

In
Hiya Aboutmovies. Wow, you've been on WP a log time, esp. compared to me, which is why I enjoyed reading your well-written article on Stan Bunn no doubt. But may I just ask you about this edit? No probs. with the second change - I think with hindsight your original was better - but I'm uneasy re the first change, from "was president in his senior year" back to "was president his senior year". I note you say the latter's common usage. Well, I wonder how wide-spread that usage is? I'm from north-west England, and am used to nearly always hearing and putting the word 'in' before a period of time. It just sounds/reads odd to me, without the 'in'. For instance, "I bought a car in 1985" would sound odd to me without the 'in'. Well, it's not a big deal. Keep up your good work - I'm impressed with how many DYK acknowledgements you've collected! (And jealous!) Best wishes, Trafford09 (talk) 10:43, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

fix image
AM, can you fix my image at Portland International Raceway? I had to wrap it with a Image: and |thumb| tags to make it display- the bare image wouldn't display, and I don't know why. (I'm talking about the one in the infobox). tedder (talk) 14:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

deleting important info
Why did you delete the tuition part of the Lewis and Clark page. Wikipedia is supposed to give knowledge to its users. There is nothing to hide by referencing and showing how much the school costs. Please keep it there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Humanresourceaccess (talk • contribs) 16:33, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

George H. Atkinson
Thanks for explaining your reversion of my edits to the Atkinson page. I'll work to get them fully cited -- Don Sevetson, the author, is in the process of final edits for a book about Atkinson which contains many of the details I've cited, so I may wait until the book is released before re-submitting my edits.

Clarify one thing for me, please -- is this the proper location to reply to your comments to me? Or should I have replied under the "new section" tab on my own page, where your comments appear? Psevetson (talk) 16:17, 26 May 2009 (UTC)psevetson

USC. The Australian one...
Thanks for your feedback re USC article. I've done some work since - converting lists, trimming external links and expanding the intro section. I'd appreciate any further advice, particularly regarding correcting footnotes.

thanks again. 1Audit1 (talk) 00:35, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Weather goats!
While researching KRSB-FM for my latest Oregon radio station article, I stumbled onto pure gold: internationally famous weather goats in Roseburg, Oregon. Based on the source I've found, they were covered by magazines, newspapers, books, the NBC Nightly News, That's Incredible, Mother Jones, and surely dozens of other sources that aren't easily available (to me) on the web. I've cobbled together a two-paragraph precis for the KRSB-FM article (and resulting hook) but there's enough here for a substantial article. If you're local to Oregon, I bet even more info could be found in local sources from the 1970s. I've assembled a number of great sources at User:Dravecky/Sandbox/Weather Goats. Why do I mention this here? I'm frantically trying to get ready for a lengthy business trip in a couple of days and don't have time to do it justice as a new article. (Suggested title: Weather goats) Googling "KRSB goats" or  "Roseburg weather goats" (without the quotation marks) will get you even more raw material to use. If you're not interested, please pass this info along to somebody else to WP Oregon. Have fun! - Dravecky (talk) 06:00, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for thinking of me, but I'll have to leave a note on the project talk page. I have bar prep for the next 8 weeks so my time is limited, and travel time is nonexistent. If I was still in law school it would be easy as the state library was across from campus and has most major Oregon papers on micro. I can check a few databases I still have access to though. Did you check the New York Times? Aboutmovies (talk) 06:07, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I only dug as deeply as I needed to for the radio station article... and then a bit deeper since I kept finding such killer material. (I have to start working "widely scattered goats" into mydaily conversations.)  I understand the time crunch so feel free to pass all this along.  I can't wait to see what somebody comes up with while I'm gone. - Dravecky (talk) 06:40, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Your welcome
Thank you for the friendly hello. I appreciate your recommended reading list Arpanetter (talk) 03:55, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Invitation response
Thanks for the invitation to join WikiProject Oregon. Although I appreciate the project (I had already noticed the references to it and checked out some of its pages), I don't think I'll be joining in the foreseeable future, because I'm already spending too much time editing Wikipedia. I enjoy editing and contributing very much, but my non-Wikipedia "to-do" list is becoming much too long, and I need to scale back my Wikipedia time a little. By the way, the amount of time I spent wiki-editing (much of it Oregon-related) last week won't be typical; I had the week off from work! I'll check WikiProject Oregon's pages occasionally and may join in the future. I realize no invitation is required. Thanks. SJ Morg (talk) 15:10, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Party at ArbCom
You've been invited to a dispute at ArbCom!

Requests for arbitration

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Here are some resources:
 * Requests for arbitration;
 * Arbitration guide.

Thanks, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.111.167.64 (talk) 02:01, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for the DYK nomination! SJ Morg (talk) 06:06, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

University tags
Thanks for rating those University articles I tagged. I was surprised that there were so many untagged ones! Good work! Moonraker0022 (talk) 05:23, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Laurelwood
I'm fine if you'd rather have this discussion on Talk:Laurelwood Academy, but I figure here is fine. With regards to this change/revert, I thought I'd explain a few things.

First, I had intended to put the accreditation in the infobox, figuring it wasn't something worth putting in the lede. I obviously didn't put it in the infobox- oops. Do you still think the accredidation belongs in the lede?

Second, there is a lot of geographic information in the lede. The school had two locations- previous (Laurelwood) and current (rural Lane/Eugene). Should it really have three locations listed? (Eugene, Laurelwood, rural Lane County)? I mean, saying outside Eugene already geolocates it. tedder (talk) 04:06, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * With the accreditation, something needs to be in the lede from the second section, and having just the grades seems too short, so I think its a good combo. But, I'm not sold it needs to be accreditation. With the location, I do think the three needs to be there. The old definitely needs to be there as it was at that location for over 100 years and shares the name. Many people who maybe have heard of the place have no idea it moved (that included me until I re-wrote the community article a few months back). With the two related to the current, I think it should be there that it is both near Eugene, but is really rural Lane County. Not only because it really isn't that close to Eugene (but the sources say it is, and it is close compared to say Indiana), but it gives another geographical location for readers to compare to. I know and you may know where Lane County is, but I'd bet you more people know where Eugene is versus Lane County. So mentioning Eugene helps readers from outside the area get an idea of where it is, but then are told it is in a rural area (in fact Jesper probably needs to be mentioned in combo with the Lane Co bit). As I'm sure you know, we have a world-wide audience and need to provide context for those who don't live in Oregon. But, like the above, I'm not necessarily sold on the words/order, just on the content in general. Hopefully that makes sense. And if nothing else, the repeat of boarding needs to be changed to secondary school on one of them. Aboutmovies (talk) 20:01, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * And one other note. Unlike public schools, I think accreditation is much more of an important item for private schools. Aboutmovies (talk) 20:04, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

(reset) I understand what you are saying about accreditation, and that's why I try to source the accreditation or provisional accreditation when I go through the article. And I also what you see about the location, but it's awkward to say "ABA", it'd be better if it was listed as "AAB". I'm going to make an AGF bold edit to see if I can make it better. Let me know what you think. tedder (talk) 02:54, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * (minor) Noticed I spelled accreditation wrong in the infobox, which is why it wasn't showing up there. Feh! Anyhow, as you can see in my edit, my concept is (a) show the accred. in the infobox and the para, not the lede, then (b) merge the locational information so it flows better. Thoughts? Still think the accred. should show up in the lede? I won't disagree further if you want to add it back, but whether it's accredited doesn't seem to be ledeworthy- it isn't something that makes Laurelwood distinct or noteworthy, and it's in the infobox. tedder (talk) 03:03, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I made a few changes, but remember that a lede is not what is distinct or noteworthy, its the "important aspects of the subject". So if the most important aspect of a school is that they are an IB school, then that goes into the lede even though it is not particularly distinct. As to my changes, I made separate links for boarding and secondary so those who don't know what those are can explore, and I re-added Eugene as that is what is mentioned in the third party sources, and more people will know where Eugene is than Jasper or Lane County. For comparison, I know where where Boulder is (another college town of similar size), but I have no idea what county it is within having to look. If you can move the Eugene reference in the lede to attain the AAB order, that's fine, I just think you need all three even if its: "...Jasper, Lane County, Oregon, United States. Located outside of Eugene in a rural area..." Aboutmovies (talk) 06:13, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds good AM, thanks for the explanation. tedder (talk) 14:43, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Intel Corp question
I'll just ask straight: are you an Intel investor or employee? I've pointed out this possibility multiple times, and your complete silence about it is incredibly hinting. (In fact, it would be a mistake for me to even fully believe your answer here, so I only ask for what it's worth, if you say yes) The edits I'm trying to make are incredibly important for the well-being of the entire world... (just imagine what technology today would look like if there had always been more fierce players in the CPU market... and AMD is on the verge of collapse: something that maybe wouldn't have happened if the public had always known about Intel's suits (I'm not saying they're good or bad, or that Intel did them frivolously (I don't know that part): I'm saying they happened, and had side-effects)... and if AMD buckles, that would make Intel a monopoly (God help us all), and part of that would be the fault of those who tried to hide the truth. Whether it's good or bad when a company sues others into the ground, people choose what brands to go with based on this (like me: I buy Nikon cameras because I hate Canon, and I eat at Del Taco because I hate Taco Bell), and the resulting loss of profits - even small losses - causes changes to be made (like how AOL completely reversed their "impossible-to-cancel" practices, and McDonald's started putting on a "health" game-face - all because of what simple truths people started to learn about).--68.111.167.64 (talk) 22:56, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I have reported this IP editor at the Administrator's Noticeboar, here. Hopefully they can sort it out. Bigger digger (talk) 23:32, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for the kind words and the thumbs-up award. I really enjoy the COTW suggestions, which give me fresh ideas on a regular basis. I don't know how you find time and energy for all the good things you do for the project and the encyclopedia, but I'm sure glad you do. Finetooth (talk) 16:40, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

COTW award
Thank you very much! Ipoellet (talk) 18:09, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Question about page titles
How does one deal with pages where the thing that needs changing is the main title? For example, I noted on the discussion page of History of Cape Colony that "Pre-1806" needs to be added to the title, since that is all the article covers and it should be brought in line with the other History of Cape Colony articles. Later, I went ahead and created a new page - Maurice Bishop International Airport - because I didn't know how to simply change the title of an old one - Point Salines International Airport. But is that the only solution? And if so, how does one mark the old page for deletion?ChikeJ (talk) 08:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the info
I have moving capabilities but hadn't realized what that was for. Thanks very much for marking the copy/paste page for speedy deletion - now I will know in future not to do things like that. I disagree with you on the Cape Colony issue and have moved it.ChikeJ (talk) 09:59, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Michael Deerkoski
Can I bug you for a bit of advice on Michael Deerkoski? The A7 was proposed by and things got kind of funky from there. Right now it seems calm... ZabMilenko How am I driving? 06:53, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I found the article while patrolling and felt like the contributor was getting bitten a little by the templates, but I didn't think I was quite ready to remove CSD tags.  I am fairly certain the article is heading for afd.  See you around. ZabMilenko How am I driving? 07:34, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

removing wikiproject oregon
you're right. I skimmed it and thought that theater was somewhere in Portland, not "designed by a Portland firm". Doh. tedder (talk) 05:58, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That's what I figured. It was confusing since they also had the "biggest between Portland and Seattle" bit too, plus Broadway in Portland would be a place for something like this. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:00, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep. OTOH, since I'm 110 feet from Broadway, I should have known better :-) tedder (talk) 06:06, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

question on DAB
Hi Aboutmovies.

Thanks for the welcome! Can you tell me what "dab" means? I see it often on edits and it appears to relate to internal links, but I'm not clear on the meaning or origin of the term. Newtonsand (talk) 20:51, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Great! Thanks for your quick explanation. Newtonsand (talk) 21:00, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Well, thanks for your welcoming. I feel nice seeing that the humble articles I'm writing are somewhat helpful. However, I get the feeling my articles can't be done just like that, they need constant editing and improving, and well, since I'm a newbie at it, I can't do much so far, but I will be able to get better at "Wikipeding".

Actually, I have loved Wikipedia since the first time I saw it (around June 2006), but was never able to edit, since I hadn't got anything to add to it, and felt useless, so I didn't do a thing. I always had the desire to help Wikipedia, but I finally got the will to do it this June. And don't worry, you won't get trouble with me ;) the thing I want the most is to help Wikipedia, to spread knowledge through the whole world. But my journey has just begun, it will get better soon (and when I get ideas lol, I started to look at pages that needed a clean up or to be filled up, so I think it can be enough).

Well, see ya, keep up your excellent work (I have seen your contributions, and I'm astonished at it lol). Take care.

--FredZ (talk) 07:28, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

What About Frogs?
What a coincidence. For the past couple of days I have been discussing the famous ad with people as cultural marker for Northwesterners of a certain age. It's a fun phrase to throw into conversation as a shibboleth. The young folk just don't get it. Katr67 (talk) 05:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That and smile contests too. Plus I sing to me wife "wash your hands after going to the bathroom, wash your hands after changing baby too. 'Cause we don't want to get hepatitis..." and she has no idea what I am talking about. Interestingly I found this blog that mentions both the frogs and hepatitis. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I saw the mention of the hepatitis ad, but I don't remember that one. Maybe they figured us dirty Eugene hippies wouldn't heed the message anyway... Katr67 (talk) 22:26, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

New User
Thank for your friendly welcoming hello. I appreciate your recommended reading list about wikipedia, sorry but my english is not so good. Thanks and Good work Onjacktallcuca (talk) 17:00, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I also thank you for your welcome message. I may not be able to contribute much or very often, but I figure every little bit helps. Entroposity (talk) 07:18, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Forest Grove decision
I thought you and/or Katr67 would be interested in writing about the Supreme Court decision today in Forest Grove vs TA. I don't even pretend to understand it. It's already partly covered at Forest Grove School District and Individuals with Disabilities Education Act. tedder (talk) 02:28, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar lovin'

 * Why thank you. If its in Wilsonville, it usually doesn't take long. Aboutmovies (talk) 17:56, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

COTW
Many thanks for the award. The COTW this time was a good reminder to look for text that had outlived its expiration date. Finetooth (talk) 16:38, 30 June 2009 (UTC)