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 * I am new to making contributions here and was just testing the way Wikipedia works. I want to request its deletion according to the instructions above (add "" at the top of the draft text) but when I got to my sandbox there is no indication of where the draft begins and ends. Absolutely Certainly (talk) 20:58, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I've deleted your sandbox for you. You don't need to know where the draft starts and finishes, adding  to the page will do. Nthep (talk) 21:07, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Can I add anywhere on the page?
 * anywhere Absolutely Certainly (talk) 21:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Anywhere, but at the top is the normal. Nthep (talk) 06:01, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

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June 2022
Hello, I'm Singularity42. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions&#32;to Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse. Thanks. Singularity42 (talk) 20:38, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Nothing experimental. Applying the Wikipedia's MOS: " There are cases in which titles should not be in italics nor in quotation marks (though many are capitalized): Legal or constitutional documents: temporary restraining order, Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the Bill of Rights". Does Wikipedia adhere to their MOS rules? Absolutely Certainly (talk) 22:50, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Please consult MOS:CANLAW. —Joeyconnick (talk) 23:03, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict)
 * First, you didn't just remove the italics in this edit. You removed the bolding from article's title in the lede, which is standard in Wikipedia's MOS. You also changed the word "Charter" to "CharCommand Piloter" for some reason.  So yes, it needed to be reverted.
 * Someone added a reference to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms at MOS:TITLE without any knowledge of Canadian practices for citing legislation. This was discussed at the article's talk page and at WP:CANLAW.  Maybe the consensus from those pages are wrong.  If that is the case, you should discuss it at the article's talk page or at WP:CANLAW and see if there is a new consensus. Singularity42 (talk) 23:05, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, I have now removed the reference to the Charter from MOS:TITLES to avoid further confusion as it conflicted with MOS:CANLAW. Singularity42 (talk) 23:10, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * First, I made a copy paste error for "CharCommand Piloter". No mention of "italics" at WP:CANLAW. Please explain? Absolutely Certainly (talk) 23:21, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * For what it is worth, what are the "Canadian practises for citing legislation"? Absolutely Certainly (talk) 23:26, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * From MOS:CANLAW: In Canada, per the McGill Guide, Act titles are italicized.. It's the McGill Guide that says how Canadian legislation and cases are displayed. Singularity42 (talk) 23:43, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Still don't see it. Try an written explanation of your viewpoint with references, Absolutely Certainly (talk) 23:48, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Um, no. This is enough of a time sink and I'm not citing references to you. I've tried enough good faith but I have now literally quoted the sentence from the policy guide.  If you can't find it, do a control-F search on that page for the sentence.  Multiple editors have now told you to stop.  So please stop. Singularity42 (talk) 23:51, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The McGill guide? Absolutely Certainly (talk) 00:06, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Faith is a route to any proposition. Good faith to you. Absolutely Certainly (talk) 00:07, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Do you italicize the name of acts?
 * Do not italicize short forms such as "the Act" or "the Charter": The Act defines environment as including land, water and air; organic and inorganic matter; living organisms; and natural systems. Absolutely Certainly (talk) 23:52, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * This is too weird Absolutely Certainly (talk) 00:05, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Absolutely Certainly! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.

All editors are expected to discuss content disputes on article talk pages to try to reach consensus. If you are unable to agree&#32;at Talk:Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, please use one of the dispute resolution options to seek input from others. Using this approach instead of reverting can help you avoid getting drawn into an edit war. Thank you. Singularity42 (talk) 23:49, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Singularity42, I noticed you ignored my rhetorical questions. Your impulse to ignore questions that make your disagreement unjustified are understandable but not justifiable. Absolutely Certainly (talk) 00:00, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

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Claim
Please stop adding the word "claim" and its variations into articles to attempt to question the source. Your edit summary reworded to remove unverified claims is inaccurate. The fact that the Book of Hebrews says this is not an unverified claim, it does in fact say this. That's all the article says, that the information about the Ark is in the Book of Hebrews, and it is, that's not an unverified claim. - Aoidh (talk) 22:07, 1 July 2022 (UTC)


 * What it "says" is am unverified claim. Encyclopaedias are about verifiable claims. Absolutely Certainly (talk) 22:21, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Please read what I wrote above again. The Book of Hebrews absolutely does say what the article says it does, that's a verifiable statement of fact. The article's wording makes no judgement to the veracity of the statements in the Book of Hebrews, all it does it state that the information is in said book. Nothing about that is unverified. It should be very obvious now that your changes are controversial, please read WP:BRD and discuss what you would like changed on the article's talk page. - Aoidh (talk) 22:43, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The book makes a claim. I understand that you are afraid to admit it is only s claim. In logic, the law of excluded middle (or the principle of excluded middle) states that for every proposition, either this proposition or its negation is true. Absolutely Certainly (talk) 22:53, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Now you're moving the goalposts. The article makes no unverified claim, despite what you claimed. The book says what it says. The article states that the book says what it says. There is nothing unverified in the article about this. If you think there is a problem with this, feel free to start a discussion on the talk page explaining why you think it should be changed, and if your logic is as sound as you think, and you can provide sources supporting what you're saying, getting a WP:CONSENSUS should be easy for you. But we're at the step of WP:BRD where we need to stop editing and discuss the changes now that we know there's a disagreement. - Aoidh (talk) 23:04, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The book makes unverified claims. I am waiting for your evidence of the claims. Absolutely Certainly (talk) 23:13, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * You're welcome to wait, but you are owed no explanation, as it's outside of the scope of what is being discussed. - Aoidh (talk) 23:20, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * This is completely within the scope of an encyclopaedia. The inability to provide an explanation for removing the context that I added to clarify unconfirmed accounts is not fact driven. Absolutely Certainly (talk) 02:56, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Why make such a blatantly inaccurate statement? When you say there's been no explanation as to why you've been reverted, you need to understand that an explanation was given. Several times in fact, both on talk pages and within the edit summares. I honestly do not know what you're trying to do here with statements like that, but it's not helping your case nor is it convincing anyone that your edits should be pushed through into the article. Where's the logic in that, then? What are you accomplishing? Just arguing for the sake of arguing? I highly advise you have a good read through Contributing to Wikipedia, and more importantly to stop making comments like whatever this was supposed to be, because this isn't a debate team and that comment had absolutely nothing to do the article content being discussed. - Aoidh (talk) 07:54, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Absolutely Certainly (talk) 23:24, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Ark_of_the_Covenant
Please could you go a bit easy at Ark_of_the_Covenant? You might notice that almost every edit you have made there has been reverted, by multiple different editors. This is a clear indication that your editing is going against the consensus viewpoint. You should definitely stop and engage in discussion at the talk-page. Many thanks! Elemimele (talk) 22:23, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

July 2022
Your recent editing history at Ark of the Covenant shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you do not violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Aoidh (talk) 23:19, 1 July 2022 (UTC)


 * I am engaged in a factual dispute. Absolutely Certainly (talk) 23:30, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I highly suggest you read Edit warring and specifically WP:3RR. Being "engaged in a factual dispute" is not a reason to edit-war, and continuing to do so will lead to you being blocked. - Aoidh (talk) 23:33, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The talk page. The best practice at any stage for an encyclopaedia is for the "consensus among editors" be based on factual evidence, not stories. Absolutely Certainly (talk) 23:35, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia. - FlightTime  ( open channel ) 23:35, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Good luck on your tenure, here. Cheers, -  FlightTime  ( open channel ) 23:46, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Good luck. Cheerios. Absolutely Certainly (talk) 23:48, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * You are blocking me from editing articles for addressing issues of logic and facts on an encyclopaedic Website? Consensus among Wikipedia editors sounds a lot like the "appeal to popularity" fallacy. Stories transmitted from word to mouth have been proved many times over as unreliable. Absolutely Certainly (talk) 23:47, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Storytelling often involves improvisation or embellishment. Stories or narratives have been shared in every culture as a means of entertainment, education, cultural preservation and in order to instill moral values. Absolutely Certainly (talk) 23:52, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

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 * It is unusual for an encyclopaedia to publish claims without evidence, disclaimers are intended to differentiate between claims and facts I will try my best to keep Wikipedia reporting the facts based on evidence. Absolutely Certainly (talk) 01:14, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

July 2022
 You have been blocked from editing for one month for persistently making disruptive edits. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Your behavior at Ark of the Covenant is unacceptable. The article does not make the case that the Ark is real and actually existed. Wikipedia has many articles about topics that some people believe are real and other people believe are false legends. This is normal. When we describe such topics, it is correct to cite primary sources (such as the Bible) to establish what the foundational primary sources say. Such citations do not amount to the Wikipedia article saying that the claim is true. Perhaps some tweaking of the wording in the article is appropriate. But that editing should be done with a scalpel instead of a machete. This is a collaborative project and to date, you are a confrontational editor instead of a collaborative editor. So, spend your one month break from editing pondering what collaboration and consensus actually mean. Cullen328 (talk) 01:14, 2 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Consensus. Among scientists? An exhaustive list of scientists is necessary to demonstrate a consensus. A consensus of Wikipedia editors is not very useful. unless they provide citations of their peer reviewed studies.
 * Your use of your talk page while blocked is for the purpose of asking for clarification of your block if needed and formulating a persuasive unblock request. It is not for continuing to engage in tendentious, strawman arguments. That's disruptive editing]] which is not permitted. Cullen328 (talk) 02:43, 2 July 202od 2 (UTC)
 * Please read Consensus for a detailed explanation of how decisions are made on Wikipedia. If someone edits against consensus, they get warned. And if they persist, they get blocked. There are various forms of Dispute resolution available, some of which draw in uninvolved editors. The bottom line is that editing against consensus is not permitted. Cullen328 (talk) 02:53, 2 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Absolutely Certainly, I hope you don't mind a word from me aimed at helping you avoid similar problems when you are unblocked. I notice at Talk:Ark of the Covenant you spoke of "The circular argument by providing the bible as a source for using the bible." The bible is the definitive source for identifying what the bible says (which is acceptable usage), but it is not a valid source for verifying the truth of anything the bible says (which would be unacceptable usage). Understanding the distinction is crucial if you wish to stay out of trouble in this topic area. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:40, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 * If it helps, think of it like the Daily Mail. WP doesn't actually trust the Daily Mail as a reliable source on anything, but nevertheless, if what they reported turns out to be important, we can safely write "The Daily Mail reported that..." without making any assertion about whether what they reported is fact or fiction. The bible is exactly analogous. We are merely reporting what it says. The situation at Ark of the Covenant was that the Ark is something described by the bible, and that has considerable religious and cultural importance, which is why we have the article. It may or may not have existed in reality, and the bible's descriptions may be accurate or exaggerated, but since archaeology is thin on the subject, we are writing about it primarily as a bible story (the bulk of that article is under the heading "Biblical account"), rather than a physical thing that you could go and see in a museum. Again, this isn't so very different from situations such as Gandalf, who is quite definitely fictional, but nevertheless our article writes "Gandalf has great power, but works mostly by encouraging and persuading" without feeling obliged to add that Gandalf of course had no real power because he didn't exist; this is understood from the fact we're writing about a Lord-of-the-Rings story, just as when we write about the Ark of the Covenant, we are writing about a bible story. Actually, it is easier to remain neutral by merely sticking to the facts (that the bible says something) rather than trying to enter into the discussion of whether something is true. If you wished to do this, in my view, the appropriate thing would be to add a separate section to the article, for example "historical authenticity of the Ark of the Covenant", and then write a summary of what reliable secondary sources have said about it, from archaeology and history. I hope this makes sense? Elemimele (talk) 13:15, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 * )How many different versions are there of Lord of the Rings? I only know of one. How many versions of the bible? A few hundred according to Wikipedia. References to, or citations from biblical sources need to be specific for an encyclopaedia to be a unique verifiable version. (King James,NIV, etc.)  Let us all make this an encyclopedia of facts and avoid preaching here. Neutral tone? Factually based. Logically based. Absolutely Certainly (talk) 22:50, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, indeed, there are numerous versions of the bible, and their origins, developments and histories have been studied academically. And that's what Wikipedia should reflect. But here's what I don't understand... you appear to be arguing as if Wikipedia portrays the bible as true. If Wikipedia did that (or portrayed any religious text as true), I would be in full agreement with you. But I can see nowhere that Wikipedia suggests the bible (or any version of it) is true. Nowhere. There's certainly nowhere in the Ark of the Covenent article where I can see Wikipedia lending any support to any claimed truth of it. But, if you find any article which you think contains any truth claim for anything religious, and you are reverted when you try to change it, what you need to do is start a discussion on the article talk page and seek consensus. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:00, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree completely. Doug Weller  talk 08:11, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * "Oh indeed" (lol, a necessary wiki adjective) I am arguing that the article is not encyclopaedic. Biased towards a certain point of view. Absolutely Certainly (talk) 14:51, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * If it helps, you can question the Daily Mail reporter. Can you questions the bible stories of Adam, Abraham, Moses, Noah, etc. Encyclopaedia. Absolutely Certainly (talk) 15:06, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

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