User talk:Abyssal/Archive 3

Albertonykus
Hey Abyssal,

I just got an edit conflict when reworking Albertonykus, due to our edits being at the same time. I've pasted my edit in there, and I believe our intentions were the same (to break the paragraph down for readability), but your paragraphs and mine are slightly different (I added some new material and your paragraphs were more balanced in terms of size), so it could use a second look. I'm not wed to the current version, and am open to reworking the material. Firsfron of Ronchester 04:18, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice work revamping Massospondylus, too! Where were you six months ago when I was struggling through this article? ;) Firsfron of Ronchester  05:58, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Many thanks for the barnstar, means a lot! ArthurWeasley (talk) 05:11, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

You maybe interested in the Article Rescue Squadron
I noticed that you are part of Category:Wikipedians against notability.

I would like to invite you to join the Article Rescue Squadron. Although Rescue Squadron members do not share any official position on notability, and are simply focused on rescuing articles for deletion, you may find our project matches your vision of Wikipedia.

Caveat: I am writing this as a wikipedian, not as a representative of Article Rescue Squadron. Ikip (talk) 19:51, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Request for Usurpation
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Thank you for your time. Abyssal leviathin (talk) 12:27, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

List of crurotarsans‎
Hi Abyssal,

You're making quite serious changes to List of crurotarsans‎ without consulting the community. This is especially sad, as when you made these proposals for List of dinosaurs you were rejected. I think it would have been better if you had created a userpage to make these changes, then asked other editors what their opinions were. As Mgiganteus1 as already reverted your actions, I think it would be best to stop and gather support for what you're doing. Cheers, Mark t young (talk) 17:00, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi, if you're willing to create a user page and make the re-designed list there before altering the List of crurotarsans, I'd be more than willing to help out. I was, and am, a little concerned that all these changes were made prior to a discussion. With a finished product, it'd be easier to see the benefits of your changes. Cheers, Mark t young (talk) 17:55, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I feel my contributions were already inline with community wishes, as established in the LOD discussion page. See the talk page on the crurotarsan list for I hold that position. As for consulting the community, I would have been glad to, but I'm at work, and while Between the day shift I'm on now and the midnight shift I will be working tonight, I could have fully completed the changes. If I had waited for a community response, it was highly unliekly I would be able to accomplish that. Since I felt my edits corresponded quite strongly to the feed back received at the LOD, I cut out the presumedly unnecessary wait and made the changes. Apparently I ruffled feathers in the process. Sorry about that, but I stand by all actions I have taken with regards to the LOC. Abyssal (talk) 18:06, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Just a brief note to say I just noticed the shorter username, and didn't see this conversation until now because it wasn't on my watchlist. It is now. Firsfron of Ronchester  21:36, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Fossil ranges
I noticed User:Opspin added it to Liopleurodon a few days ago. I thought it was pretty kool and added it so some croc pages. Do you think it helps readers visualise time better? Mark t young (talk) 16:23, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for supporting Stan
Thanks for supporting Stan in the battle over the inclusion of paleoart on Wikipedia! You can also support him with this userbox. :P Abyssal (talk) 00:56, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Who is Stan? Mr. Fink, presumably. I'm not sure what work his is, but the OR policy clearly exempts images. Silliness. Firsfron of Ronchester  00:59, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Abyssal, you do realize that having created that userbox you are now obligated to create an article on Paleoart. I've added it to my page but this redlink will not do!! --JayHenry (talk) 05:58, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Validity
Junior synoynms, like nomina dubia are still valid (or occupied names). Even if the junior synonymy is objective rather than subjective the name is considered occupied taxonomically (if it fulfills the requirements of the Code of the ICZN, articles 11 and 12 if I remember correctly). The upshot is, if another worker was to look at those species and decide they are in fact not dubious or synonyms, then they can be resurrected as their validity as occupied names was never in question.

To take a thalattosuchian example. Suchodus is a subjective junior synonym of Metriorhynchus. Now say someone wished to name a new species of bizarre crocodilian found alive today Suchodus. They couldn't as it is already occupied (even though it is a junior synonym of Metriorhynchus). So, say instead they wished to name it Neustosaurus. Again, they wouldn't be able to, even though the fossil metriorhynchid is a nomen dubium, the name is still occupied.

The key thing to remember is, if a name is valid taxonomically (fulfilling all the required Code articles), then if someone considers it to be dubious or a synonym of another species/genera etc, that is not relevant to its validity (the name is still occupied). Remember, not everyone always agrees on synonymy or dubious-status of taxa (there is a good example of a eastern European coleopterist going around splitting synonyms and erecting species en mass). Hope that helps, Mark t young (talk) 15:58, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, validity solely regards the name; rather than it being the only correspondant name of a fossil (or subfossil) specimen. Mark t young (talk) 18:00, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

wait
You are making articles too fast. Us on new page patrol can not keep up with them. --mboverload @ 02:39, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, nevermind. Slow down just a little bit but I think I can handle the load.  =) --mboverload @  02:39, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Abduction phenomenon entities

 * Thanks for the question! Basically, just delete some of the red links. Also, can you post that this information is not confirmed as true. Thanks. I'm not the one to complain anyway! (laughs)!Micky 1234567890123 (talk) 17:27, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the message! Consider it forgotten about! Micky 1234567890123 (talk) 18:21, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Messing with taxa lists
Abyssal, I appreciate the time you have taken to "tweak" the taxa lists for the various geological formations. However, in doing so you really dumbed down the lists by removing the higher categories. This, and your restructuring the data into simplistic tables, has made the lists less valuable for people wanting to cut and paste the lists to their term papers, scientific papers, etc. Also, although it is nice that your support the inclusion of art to the paleo articles, they mislead Wiki readers into thinking more is known about what an animal looks like than is often the case. That plays into the hands of Wikipedia critics who say the information in the articles is misleading, wrong, simplistic, etc. If you really feel a need to use a generic illustration, then place it in the article about a taxon and link from the list rather than placing the art on the specimen list. Furthermore, your restructuring of the lists to added columns(such as "Description")often duplicates in a very substandard way the information found in separate articles. So what is the point? Anky-man 13:48, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

List of crurotarsans/sandbox
Hi Abyssal. Rather than being a sandbox, List of crurotarsans/sandbox is an article named "List of crurotarsans/sandbox". Would you mind if I moved List of crurotarsans/sandbox out of article space to User:Abyssalrenamehold/List of crurotarsans (draft)? Thanks. Suntag (talk) 23:55, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Octocorals
Please leave the list of prehistoric octocorals alone. I was working on it when you proded it and clearing up the very same problems that you proded it for in the first place! Please be more careful next time when using tools like Twinkle. Abyssal (talk) 17:20, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand perhaps I should be careful but by the same token, you should ensure the page is tagged with an appropriate sign as it appears to the visitor to be a list of unlinked articles. I thank-you for your edits and I will continue to watch the page and help out where I can but if the article doesn't improve I will re-instate the Prod. I apologize for the incursion, although it wasn't Twinkle, it was me that thought it needed fixing.   Lympathy    Talk  17:28, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Confusing redirection of this page
Shouldn't this user talk page be moved to User talk:Abyssal instead of continuing to be at User talk:Abyssalrenamehold? --Orlady (talk) 17:30, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It was at this location when I ursurped the username Abyssal and I was afraid to mess with it. Am I allowed to move it it User talk: Abyssal? Abyssal (talk) 17:37, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Because a redirect is in place it seems an admin is needed to move it. I'll ask Xeno to do it, a very respected admin.  Lympathy    Talk  17:41, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * ✅ – xeno  ( talk ) 18:43, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Which Pictures?
If the pictures aren't already on Wikipedia, which ones do you want me to upload for which articles?--Mr Fink (talk) 00:33, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll get right on it. At the very least, I want to thank you for (inadvertently) reminding me to color the lineart I did of Culmacanthus some months ago.--Mr Fink (talk) 01:10, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Glen Rose Formation
Hi there. In July you put in some placeholders in a table in the above article - they're still there. Is there any chance this could be finished soon? I hope this message isn't too abrupt :) Thanks. Totnesmartin (talk) 19:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello, I am the new Epidexipteryx who moved in down the hall yesterday, and...
Hey, I am doing New Page Patrol and I came upon your new dinosaur-related articles. Great stuff! Thanks for bringing these articles to Wikipedia -- keep up the fine work! Ecoleetage (talk) 02:21, 30 September 2008 (UTC) 

Ecoleetage (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Ophthalmosaurus
Hello, the statement about the exctinction of Ophthalmosaurus is really in Andrew Parker's book. So it doesn't matter if you're suspicious, it is still a statement by a scientist who has done a lot of study on these animals. (In the blink of an eye, 2004 edition pp. 203-204)

Dirk math (talk) 21:41, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Statistics pages
WikiProject Palaeontology/Popular pages and WikiProject Dinosaurs/Popular pages. Mr.Z-man 21:50, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thank you very much Abyssal for the Working Man's Barnstar! Liopleurodon93 ( talk ) 17:31, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I believe that I finished with the List of Sarcopterygii... Liopleurodon93  ( talk ) 15:38, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


 * No, I mean I will finish it soon. I have added the table format. Liopleurodon93  ( talk ) 07:28, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Ufological figures
I have nominated ufological figures for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. ScienceApologist (talk) 05:23, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Dinosaur Park Fm.
Hi, Abyssal;

It does indeed include species names in the various chapters; I just figured people wouldn't really be interested in them, so I left them out. J. Spencer (talk) 03:42, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Schizorhiza
Thanks! You might want to check out the source; although I milked it thoroughly, you might find the odd bit I missed (I admit, it was just the "unique" in the title that struck my fancy...). Particularly on the relationship with guitarfish, sawfish and true rays there might be new info since then... though as Mikko Haaramo has them as incertae sedis, ther emight not be anything of substance. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 12:46, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Pterosaur
No problem! I am ever-vigilant ;) J. Spencer (talk) 03:02, 21 November 2008 (UTC)