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Hi, I noticed you have an interest in Baltimore County's roads, and you seem to know their history.

Over the years, I have written lots of articles about roads in the Baltimore area. While I have mostly included the most obvious information that can be found in any map, the ultimate goal I have wanted out of these articles is for their history to be written. I've been waiting for an expert to come along who can provide that information.

For a list of roads in the Baltimore area, you can see the template I've been working on, Roads in Baltimore area. It is not complete yet, but many are already listed. Sebwite (talk) 14:47, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi Sebwite, Thanks for the comments. I have seen your Baltimore area road articles (I presume most if not all are yours?) Nicely done --- they inspired me to do the one on Old Harford. Like you, I have had an interest in roads --- for nearly as long as I can remember. So your entries caught my eye. I have picked up some historical information over the years, but I'm definitely not an expert. There is some readily available info out there (have you looked at the book "Difficulties Made Easy - History of the Turnpikes of Baltimore County (c) 1978 - Baltimore County Historical Society?), but "primary" material is harder to obtain. It would be great to have a complete set of articles on all significant roads...something of the form of the 1930s-era Writer's Project manuals.  That would require considerable effort, but your template is a good start.  Accas1  P.S. Not sure if this is the correct forum by which to respond to you --- I'm new at Wikipedia work.
 * Some of these articles I have created. Some already existed, and I expanded upon them after the fact. Some I made only as stubs, and others expanded them thereafter. But I have contributed a lot to the articles on Baltimore area roads.

I have tried to keep a limit on how many area roads have articles, particular roads that are not numbered, since there are many Wikipedians out there who like to delete road articles that they feel are not notable. Therefore, I added sections to the articles on many Baltimore suburbs listing and describing the roads within them, and hoping this could be a model for other areas.

The types of roads that I have generally thought of as being notable enough to have articles are those that are at least several miles long, transverse more than one town, and have multiple notable landmarks located on them (usually meaning one that currently has a Wikipedia article or could have one; if it doesn't, I often substitute an external link to the place's own site). Even within the lists of roads within towns, I have limited them to roads that either have somewhat notable landmarks or else are of high importance to thru traffic, since it is impossible to include every little side street.

You did a great job on the Old Harford Road article, being the first one you ever created. Either this or my talk page is the correct place to reply. Sebwite (talk) 21:46, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Sebwite, Your criteria for selecting roads worthy of articles are good ones. The links to the communities served are especially useful since (1) outsiders likely will be more aware of those names rather than those of the roads within them and (2) the links serve as good vehicles to convey additional info about an area that might be a bit tangential the community article. I don't know why, however, anyone would want to delete an article --- even if the article's topic doesn't quite meet a standard --- unless, of course the article is obviously a joke of some kind. One of the neat things about Wikipedia is that there is really no limit to the amount of info that can be posted. I always liked old-fashioned encyclopedias that you can read in a comfortable armchair (I know, that's like liking fruitcake). But space concerns often left articles too short --- or omitted them altogether. Wikipedia doesn't have that problem --- and it's linkable. If I see a link that looks suspect or unimportant, I can just ignore it.

Anyway, thanks again for the comments. Accas1

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I didn't notice your message to me on the Talk:Sunset until today, a month after you posted it. I don't know why I didn't run across it earlier. After removing a major chunk of text, I failed to stick around for the discussion, and for that I apologize. I have responded now. Cheers, Spiel496 (talk) 03:08, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi Spiel496, Thanks for the comments. In April I noticed that you had responded to my Sunset comment; many thanks and please accept my apology for my very tardy response to you here! I read the exchange between you and the "Good Dr. Fry." I agree with your comments. Having seen what Dr Fry has to say in his contribution to the Sunset article, and having read his comments to you, I have decided that, at least in the near term, I will not re-visit the article with my own work. This is in the belief that Dr. Fry will simply replace his previous contributions to the article, regardless of how incorrect they might be (e.g., comparison of colors and sunrise vs. sunset, just as an example). It pains me to see such work pass as "science," but honestly, who has the time to stifle every example of such craziness in this world? Perhaps I'll change my mid regarding this issue at a future date, but right now I just don't know if it is worth the effort to put up a fight.

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 * Hello ThelmaCow,
 * Thank you for your note. The base map of the file in question was created by the Maryland State Highway Administration (SHA), a publicly-funded, government agency.  I am not aware of any use restrictions for published SHA maps.  In the map image uploaded to Wikipedia, I added annotation (with black arrows and text) to a portion of the SHA's Baltimore County highway map to show the location of Old Harford Road with respect to other highways.  As a courtesy to the SHA, and for the benefit of any readers who would like to see the entire Baltimore County SHA map, I provided the source of the base map (i.e., the Maryland SHA) in the article.
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