User talk:Acdixon/Archive Jul-Dec 2007

List of governors
Thanks for the kind words :) Since you're interested, could you take a look at Village_pump_%28assistance%29 and offer an opinion? Thanks! --Golbez 14:44, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I've converted List of Governors of Kentucky from notes to footnotes format, let me know what you think. --Golbez 00:30, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I think including birth and death would clutter it way too much, and sadly I've found the NGA is rather inaccurate at times when it comes to dates, even dates they took or left office. --Golbez 03:57, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I went back to work on the governors list, and found an inaccuracy right away: Our article says Isaac Shelby's first term ran from May 17 1792 to June 1 1796; the NGA says it ran from June 4 1792 to June 7 1796. I think you should get that book out of the library and verify the dates... I've found many inaccuracies before in the NGA, so I'm going to go with what our article says for now.
 * Other sources: says he entered on June 4 1792;  says he served from June 4 1792 to June 1 1796. In other words, no one seems to know precisely when his term was; I suspect the book you mentioned is probably the best source, since the state government doesn't appear to have information on past governors on their website. (Or, let me know if you've already gone through the governors, setting their dates to what the book says, and add a proper citation to all the articles.) I've decided to focus my work on the Kentucky list for now, specifically because there's someone good like you already working on it. --Golbez 01:11, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Re "Higher offices held" - I think this would be much better served as a separate table, since it suffers the same problem you noted with the old "Notes" section - most people won't have one, and it just seems to bloat the table. I'm also about to attempt a new "Notes" column, but only containing footnotes, so the reader doesn't have to be hunting around every table cell for a footnote link. I won't remove "higher offices held" at this moment but I really think it should be split off; I'll toy with that later. --Golbez 02:15, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Please take a look at the notes column I just did; I'm not entirely happy with it, since come to think of it, it was somewhat useful to have 'left office' footnotes by the left office date, to give that date some prominence, but then again, this does make the notes easier to find. --Golbez 02:19, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I was about to say 'Including the date actually fits general wikipedia usage' but come to think of it, looking at some other lists, I can't find it similarly used. --Golbez 15:12, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

re text: I think the chap who suggested text there came up with a good one. I still oppose having lifespan in the table itself, it adds nothing really IMO, and just crowds it. Note that *very few, if any* featured lists include that; not even the list of US Presidents, not even the list of Popes. --Golbez 15:33, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

NGA
I was working on adding the dates of service to the table, and came across an issue with the NGA's dates: It says that Wickliffe took office on September 12 1839. However, it says that James Clark died August 27 1839; and our article is split between August 27, and September 27, for Clark's death. What's the right date? :( --Golbez 09:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Another error: The NGA says Adair's term began August 29 1820, but it says Slaughter's term ended September 7 1820. --Golbez 09:48, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * And finally, there's the question as to what day Shelby took office; NGA says June 4 1792, our article says May 17, and Kentucky was admitted June 1. I'll do some research and see if I can't clear some of these up, but you have access to better material than I do. --Golbez 09:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Shelby mystery apparently solved; at least two kentucky.gov sites, including, say June 4, so I guess for the first three days of statehood, Kentucky had no governor? --Golbez 10:01, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I assumed the August 27 date for Clark's death is correct, it's mentioned in multiple places. That leaves one mystery - when did John Adair take office? The ONLY dates I can find on this are from the NGA; while it says Slaughter left on Sept 7 in the table, in the *text* for Adair it says he took office Aug 29, and that's probably more consistent with the inauguration dates back then. Still, if you could find out for sure, that would be great. --Golbez 10:15, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Oy. My guess: the date for Wickliffe is a mental error, and he meant to put August. As for Adair/Slaughter, I just don't know. Both dates appear valid (Do you know when inauguration day was back then? It looks like it was always in the last week of August or first week of September; if we knew what the law said, we could figure out when inauguration day was for that year and put all the questions to rest). As for Shelby, yeah, it appears they had no governor for the first few days. Oh well.
 * I think perhaps the only thing to do at this point is contact the state, history.ky.gov is the state history site, maybe someone there can help. If they can't, I think we'll simply have to include both dates for Slaughter and Wickliffe. But in the meantime, let's find out what the formula for inauguration day was back then... --Golbez 12:16, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, right, and you still have the Kentucky Governors Reference to look at. Thanks for checking that out from the library. :D --Golbez 12:19, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

OK, I went through a bunch of the 19th century inauguration days, and the only trend I can find is that they were all inaugurated either on the last Tuesday in August or the first Tuesday in September, two exceptions being Sept 5 1883 and Sept 2 1891, which were both the first Wednesdays of September. However, the date KYE gives for the end of Slaughter's term - Sept 7 1820 - is a Thursday, whereas the other option, Aug 29 1820, is a Tuesday. I'd still love to know how they picked inauguration day, but this seems to tilt towards it the KYE being off a few days... --Golbez 12:56, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey look what I found, the text of the Kentucky constitution from 1799, which states they take office the fourth tuesday after election day. Which now awesomely (ugh) leads me to question the two Wednesdays above - can you check in KYE what it says the terms of Luke Blackburn and Simon Buckner ended? And now I feel like I have to check for any other Wednesdays in the lot... --Golbez 13:07, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

FLC
I think it's time to take the article to FLC; the minor, minor date issues can be resolved, but I've been talking to people in #wikipedia and they seem to really like it. I leave it to you to nominate it if you want, since you did the bulk of the work. --Golbez 13:47, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, I'll definitely be around to help. And... wow, a whole county? I think that may reflect more poorly on FLC than on you. :) --Golbez 14:26, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Lt Govs
Due to FLC, I was putting notes on Lt Govs on the list, and came across the matter of one James Guthrie. The only source online that I can find that says he was lieutenant governor is kdla.ky.gov; everything else seems to indicate that he was a member of the state senate from 1831-1840 (when his Lt Gov term was supposedly in 1834). Is it possible the KDLA site is wrong, and he was merely president of the senate (and thus, still next in line for the governorship)? Keep in mind that the lieutenant governor position should have been empty during this time, since the governor himself had ascended from the seat of lieutenant governor upon the death of his predecessor. I don't want to remove it now, but my guess is that the KDLA is wrong. --Golbez 07:38, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Similar issue; KDLA says Preston Leslie was a lieutenant governor, but all other sources (like the NGA and our own article) say he was president of the senate, not lieutenant governor. It sounds like the KDLA may have simply put 'next in line for office' in the 'lieutenant governor' section. :/ Any luck with that book yet? --Golbez 08:00, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I found a total of four lt governors on the list who don't appear to have actually been lt governors; note that they were all the lt governor of a lt governor who filled the big chair. By the way, the footer template of lt govs actually omits all these, so perhaps it's more accurate. The questionable lt govs are: James Guthrie (was pres. of the state senate), Preston Leslie (was pres. of the state senate), Charles M. Harriss (aint no one know who he is, but he served under an ascended lt gov for less than a year), and Louis Cox (again, no clue who he is). Now that I've mentioned them, I'll remove them for now as poorly cited (the only real source is the KDLA, and their information appears to be showing some seams) but if you could work your Kentucky magic on them and find out what actually was going on, that would be wonderful. :) --Golbez 08:14, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

George W. Johnson (civil war)
Good work. I've gone ahead and promoted it. Next step on route to FAC is probably a peer review, either through the general peer review or through Wikiproject Biography. Geraldk 18:23, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Confederate Government of Kentucky
I think that Confederate Government of Kentucky is ready for FA status, and I would also like to congratulate the promotion of George W. Johnson (Civil War) to GA. I looked at the discussion line and noticed there were a few changes that had to be made at the last minute. Although I don't know how my schedule allows me to help with Wikipedia, I will help as I can, and if you have any changes that are suggested for Confederate Government of Kentucky you would like help with, let me know. I will try to keep a better eye on the discussion page for it this time around. I think WikiProject Kentucky is extremely blessed to have you on its side! -- Steven Williamson (HiB2Bornot2B) - talk 17:55, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm noticing how annoying FA can be. I'm looking over it and thinking that I would love to find an article relating to the confederate government of Kentucky in a print encyclopedia to compare them, but of course that's difficult in its own right.  Unfortunately, I don't have access to many Kentucky references, as the libraries down here (in Georgia) don't seem to carry much on the topic.  I can't wait to go home! :) -- Steven Williamson (HiB2Bornot2B) - talk 15:21, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


 * It does seem that the editor is POV pushing, but as I posted, it's fine as it is. There is no POV violation, because it hasn't been asserted that the citizens felt either way, only that the delegates believed they were.  And this belief by the delegates is factual, not to mention important to the article, so hopefully when North Shoreman reviews the comments left, he will change his mind. -- Steven Williamson (HiB2Bornot2B) - talk 15:34, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't really know what to say after reading the new comments on the FAC page for the article. North Shoreman doesn't seem like he will be satisfied with the NPOV/POV issue until we succumb to his wishes, but I believe putting the actual will of the people actually puts a slant into the article. In my humble opinion, the actual will of the citizens is of no consequence as far as POV goes, as it does not make the belief of the delegates any different. The fact is that a shadow government was established, regardless of the will of the people. It seems to me that putting that information into the article is unnecessary information. -- Steven Williamson (HiB2Bornot2B) - talk 15:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Any idea how we can wrap up the FA nomination for the article? It doesn't seem like anyone is giving their opinion other than opposes, with the exception of TomStar81 -- of course we've only had three opinions. I know we're not allowed to ask people for their support votes, but is there a way we can at least get people to vote on it? -- Steven Williamson (HiB2Bornot2B) - talk 20:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Acdixon, I would love to support the article, but I have not had a chance to completely read it and have so much going on right now. I will try to read it this weekend. Annie Catron 15:53, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

How long does the article stay in limbo before the closing admin draws a conclusion? I haven't nominated an article for FA before and I was just curious as to how the process normally ends. -- Steven Williamson (HiB2Bornot2B) - talk 15:15, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, so far it's better than the last time, though I don't know about the page numbers issue. It might not be that big of a deal, though. And as far as the flag of Kentucky, ah, I just happened to be in the area. And I've been teaching myself some new graphics editing techniques, so it wasn't that big of a deal. -- Steven Williamson (HiB2Bornot2B) - talk 21:52, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Looks like things might just work out for the article this time! -- Steven Williamson (HiB2Bornot2B) - talk ▓▒░ Go Big Blue! ░▒▓  18:10, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Richard Hawes
The article Richard Hawes you nominated as a good article has passed, see Talk:Richard Hawes for eventual comments about the article. Well done! LordHarris 00:25, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your GA comments
While this might sound odd, thanks for failing Serranus Clinton Hastings a while back. The article wasn't really ready then. I've improved it a lot since then and was wondering if you could do an informal peer review of the article? If you can, thanks  Psych  less   17:29, 16 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh yes, the lead. I'm horrible at writing the lead but I'll certainly try to improve it, somehow.
 * Reference 10 references the two sentences before it, so it already does have a cite.
 * Slaughter County later was renamed Washington County; the link now links to Washington County, Iowa. I'm going to hold my ground on keeping the other red links though. Wikipedia needs more coverage on the history of Iowa, and Iowa's territorial government before I start to work on articles of people in it.
 * I believe it's a genus of plants. Now that I think of it, I remember one source mentioning he did something with botany. I'll look into it and see what I can find.
 * Hmm, I usually always start a paragraph with Hastings instead of he, but with the multiple times I've changed the structure of the article I might have not always fixed it. I'll try to work on my prose. I won't be replacing the he with Hastings except for in the first sentence of the paragraph. I feel that doing so doesn't improve the prose.
 * I'll try to work on this, but I'm certainly not very skilled at copyediting. When I nominate for GA again hopefully I'll get more feedback on the prose than "I don't like it. Fix it.", which happens too often.

Thanks for taking some time to go through it, I'll see what I can do. I want to get this article to GA so I can really start working on Nintendo DS and History of Iowa. I know this might sound selfish, but I really have no suggestions for Confederate government of Kentucky. I think it's a great article, and see no prose issues. I also see that you're working on basing a featured topic off of it. Are there any other articles relevant to it? If there are, then the people over at featured topic are going to want you to include them. I know there were other positions in the government except governor, and the "capitol" was Bowling Green, Kentucky. You could probably ask here, for more information on what should be included in the featured topic. Regards,  Psych  less   04:08, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I really don't agree with your citation suggestion. I think I'm going to leave it as it is now, and see if it's brought up when I nominate it for GA. And in regard to WikiProject Iowa... It really needs more organization and structure, something I hope to work on someday. It wouldn't really be helpful to bring up my article there. Thanks for your comments,  Psych  less   16:42, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Happy Chandler
He was never the oldest living governor... he was the last surviving governor from before 1939 or "earliest serving" as the succession box reads. At the Time of chandler's death Milward L. Simpson was older.--Dr who1975 03:14, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No biggie. God know's I've made mistakes. Just thought I'd inform you.--Dr who1975 14:56, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

List of symbols
I toyed with it a bit, and yeah, I think it might be ready for FLC. On a similar topic, could you take a look at List of Governors of California and let me know if you think it's FLC ready? --Golbez 21:25, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it might make the list look better, but if you're missing even one, it sticks out like a sore thumb IMO. As for the amendment, ugh, I dunno, if someone complains on FLC I'll whip something up. --Golbez 21:30, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Solidago shortii
Good job on Solidago shortii. It is always nice to look over (or try to improve) an article which is basically well-written and in good shape, rather than agonize over what to do about a plant article which is a hodge-podge of unsourced medicinal claims, random facts which may or may not be true or relevant, etc. Feel free to stop by WikiProject Plants if you have any questions about plant articles. Kingdon 00:38, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Hager Hill
I have no idea where the idea that Hager Hill was the county seat of Johnson County came from. I wouldn't call myself an expert, but I am from Johnson County -- I actually attended high school there, and I know Paintsville is the seat of Johnson County. That article is a pretty poor stub, and I'm going to look into increasing the quality of it, however, I should mention that Hager Hill is actually a rather small area and I don't know how much material I can obtain for the article. Thanks for your heads-up on it.

I posted a request to North Shoreman's talk page, and hopefully we'll get a response from him. -- I hope.

Well, I posted my support for the article, just in case there is failure to automatically count me as a support.

It does appear that most of the oppositions are not quality related, but are related to the opinions by persons who wish to let their personal opinions affect their support/oppose vote. I am not concerned about this, as I believe a good admin will realize this as well. -- Steven Williamson (HiB2Bornot2B) - talk 18:47, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Kentucky in the ACW
Although I am not a member of WP:Kentucky, I may be able to make significant contributions to that Kentucky in the Civil War article. However, broad general histories are not really my favorite thing, I prefer obscure bios, but it's darn close to GA status and making it comprehensive should make it a FA shoe-in. If you guys can copyedit it for me, I'll make the necessary additions this week. Mrprada911 16:59, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Great. I'll be adding some informatio on Sherman at 1861 to the beginning, and then try and breakdown Burbridge, Ewing, Paine, Meredith, and others in 1864-65. If you haven't already guessed, I don't have very many sources on the Confederate perspective other then the OR themselves, which in the 1864-65 volumes are very light on Kentucky-related reports because there weren't any Confederates writing them there. Basically I can pump the article with a bunch of information, and if you could copyedit it, it'd make my life easier(I'm not the greatest proofreader around). Mrprada911 21:23, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

James "Honest Dick" Tate
See notes on its talk page about GA status.  T Rex  | talk  12:40, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

When to cite
Re:this edit - see When to cite, which I wrote to give FA nominators some guidance on this very question. Raul654 14:55, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of James "Honest Dick" Tate
The article James "Honest Dick" Tate you nominated as a good article has passed, see Talk:James "Honest Dick" Tate for eventual comments about the article. Well done!  T Rex  | talk  06:32, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Kasey Kazee
Hi there. Due to Biographies of Living Persons concerns and Speedy deletion criteria A7 "Unremarkable people" I have deleted the Kasey Kazee article. The article will never be a biography as he is only notable for this one stupid thing and our policies state that we should not include such articles. Thank for your creating it - I know it's not nice to have your work deleted and I'm sorry that your work had to be removed. violet/riga (t) 16:09, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Renaming List of Kentucky state insignia
Hello, Acdixon! As a creator of List of Kentucky state insignia, what do you think about renaming it to List of Kentucky state symbols? This list is the only one among state symbol lists that's using the word insignia in its title. If you believe that the word insignia has to stay, then discuss it at the State symbols's discussion page. -- Crzycheetah 22:31, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

laud
You've done some really amazing and excellent work on articles and subjects relating to Kentucky. Being a Lexingtonian myself, I just wanted to thank you for your outstanding contributions and work. —  pd_THOR  undefined | 07:48, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Typically, I'd reply on your talk page, but I notice that you said you'd be watching over here. Thanks for the kudos; I sometimes wonder if anyone notices the work that I do. I've got some books on Kentucky governors checked out right now, so I'm trying to get every article about one of our governors to at least start class. I've really learned a lot about Kentucky since I started with WikiProject Kentucky almost a year ago. You should join us. User: (talk • contribs • count) 12:23, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Your sig
Hi - I happened to notice your sig syntax, which seems to include

As far as I know, this is with one exception exactly equivalent to

the exception being if your sig happens to be expanded inside a template with a parameter named "User". In this case, the username in your sig will expand to the name provided as this User parameter rather than your own username. I kind of doubt that this is what you intend. I highly recommend you simplify it. -- Rick Block (talk) 15:39, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments regarding my signature. It is actually just a subst of Template:user9. Any correction probably needs to be made there. User: (talk • contribs • count) 21:28, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

The template intends to take a username parameter, but your sig really doesn't. You might try using. Seems like this will probably expand to the simpler form. Just try the difference:


 * expands to Acdixon (talk • contribs • count)


 * expands to User: (talk • contribs • count)

Although they generate the same visual appearance, I suspect the first one will be simpler (and I think what you actually want). -- Rick Block (talk) 22:00, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I've made the change per your suggestion. If it worked, the signature at the end of this message should generate shorter code. Thanks for the help. Acdixon (talk • contribs • count) 11:44, 27 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, much better. Thanks.  -- Rick Block (talk) 13:22, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Phoenix Hotel
Thanks for the comments! I did not know about the 5-day time limit on WP:DYK suggestions. I've added my suggestion over at that project, and hopefully it will be selected. Have a great day! *Vendetta* (whois talk edits) 16:30, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Clifton R. Breckinridge
Yes, you may use the information I have provide on the page. I'm not sure how it works, if you just need to get permission from me. If it is useful to you, you can. -The Mystery Man —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Mystery Man (talk • contribs) 18:06, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

Ticket articles
Hi there. I think this issue has been hanging around too long. I have had second thoughts about this. Can we merge Ticket (notification) into Traffic ticket? The former has been vandalized twice, and is shorter, while the latter has more content, cites, and links. I also have some cites to add to whatever article remains. Bearian 13:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

FT - Confederate government of Kentucky
Wow, there really hasn't been much deliberation on the topic! Any ideas on how we can get some people to review and voice their opinions on the nomination? Sorry it's been a little while since I've done anything, but I've been quite busy at work and a little tired after work. -- Steven Williamson (HiB2Bornot2B) - talk ▓▒░ Go Big Blue! ░▒▓  21:32, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

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Kentucky Wildcats men's basketball team
I really think that we should try to make it a featured article. But, you are right, there will be a lot of haters out there. The best thing to do would be to try. There's a lot of UKologists out there that would probably be willing to help. WildManKY 22:09, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Count me in! I have been somewhat busy with work lately, though, so I'm in as much as I can be. -- Steven Williamson (HiB2Bornot2B) - talk ▓▒░ Go Big Blue! ░▒▓  14:38, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm currently on vacation, so I apologize that I haven't been forthcoming with any assistance. Hopefully, we're not in any hurry, because I really do want to help.  When I return to my normal life, I hope to be of more assistance.  I just wanted to let you guys know that. -- Steven Williamson (HiB2Bornot2B) - talk  ▓▒░ Go Big Blue! ░▒▓  20:34, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Confederate government of Kentucky
Your support votes seem to address the concerns of the one object vote, so once you have four support votes to make it official I think I can call it a consensus to promote. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 14:47, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you
Hi Acdixon :) Thank you for noticing my work. My husband and I have spent the last few Sunday afternoons taking pictures of Kentucky landmarks. It's been loads of fun working together and we plan to keep doing it. Let me know if you need any images for articles that you are working on. We live in Georgetown but can travel to other parts of the state.

Thank YOU for your work on Kentucky related articles. It is good to see Kentucky articles reaching FA and Ga status. FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 13:16, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yesterday we stayed in Georgetown. Last Sunday we took pics in Danville and Harrodsburg. I uploaded some images of Constitution Square State Historic Site to Commons that I plan to add to the article today. Feel free to rearrange them. We've taken more of KY Govs graves that I need to add yet. I hope to take pics of all KY Gov graves, homes, and such that are missing. My top priority is to remove all Kentucky related non-free images with improper fair use claims. Let me know if you see any of them and I'll put that image at the top of our list. FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 15:30, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the suggestions. We are going back to Frankfort Cemetery to get the rest of the Kentucky Gov. gravestones. We only found 4 out of 17 on our first trip 2 weeks ago. Blackburn Correctional Complex will be no problem also. FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 16:01, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

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FL Main page proposal
You either nominated a WP:FLC or closed such a nomination recently. As such, you are the type of editor whose opinion I am soliciting. We now have over 400 featured lists and seem to be promoting in excess of 30 per month of late (41 in August and 42 in September). When Today's featured article (TFA) started (2004-02-22), they only had about 200 featured articles and were barely promoting 20 new ones per month. I think the quality of featured lists is at least as good as the quality of featured articles was when they started appearing on the main page. Thus, I am ready to open debate on a proposal to institute a List of the Day on the main page with nominations starting November 1 2007, voting starting December 1 2007 and main page appearances starting January 1 2008. For brevity, the proposal page does not discuss the details of eventual main page content, but since the work has already been done, you should consider this proposal assuming the eventual content will resemble the current content at the featured content page. Such output would probably start at the bottom of the main page. The proposal page does not debate whether starting with weekly list main page entries would be better than daily entries. However, I suspect persons in favor of weekly lists are really voicing opinions against lists on the main page since neither TFA nor Picture of the day started as weekly endeavors, to the best of my knowledge. Right now debate seems to be among support for the current selective democratic/consensus based proposal, a selective dictatorial approach like that used at WP:TFA or a non-selective first in line/calendar approach like that used at WP:POTD. See the List of the Day proposal and comment at WP:LOTDP and its talk page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 18:52, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

A template for citations
Thanks for the thanks. No need - it was purely mechanical work to fill in a late evening. I agree there might be value ina template for common reference works. I've done a mockup at Template:Ref Kentucky as a direct copy of Template: Ref Stockholm. I would be interested in your views on the layout and whether regular KY editors such as yourself would use such a thing. It only has a few works but if there's support for such a thing it is easy enough to add more. Euryalus 03:34, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

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The WikiProject Universities Newsletter: Issue II (October 2007)
The October 2007 issue of the WikiProject Universities newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you for your continued support of WikiProject Universities! &mdash; Noetic  Sage  19:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of William J. Fields
I have put the article on hold to allow for minor changes to be made. You may review the comments and concerns on the article's talk page. Cheers, CP 18:05, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Featured List of the Day Experiment
There have been a series of proposals to initiate a Featured List of the Day on the main page. Numerous proposals have been put forth. After the third one failed, I audited all WP:FL's in order to begin an experiment in my own user space that will hopefully get it going. Today, it commences at WP:LOTD. Afterwards I created my experimental page, a new proposal was set forth to do a featured list that is strikingly similar to my own which is to do a user page experimental featured list, but no format has been confirmed and mechanism set in place. I continue to be willing to do the experiment myself and with this posting it commences. Please submit any list that you would like to have considered for list of the day in the month of January 2008 by the end of this month to WP:LOTD and its subpages. You may submit multiple lists for consideration.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 17:14, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

The WikiProject Universities Newsletter: Issue III (November 2007)
The November 2007 issue of the WikiProject Universities newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you for your continued support of WikiProject Universities!  Noetic  Sage  19:39, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Long range TFA requests
Please see our discussion at Wikipedia talk:Long range TFA requests. Thanks, Sarsaparilla (talk) 05:20, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

The WikiProject Universities Newsletter: Issue IV (December 2007)
The December 2007 issue of the WikiProject Universities newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you for your continued support of WikiProject Universities! &mdash; Noetic  Sage  23:42, 30 December 2007 (UTC)