User talk:AceCham3leon

February 2024
Hello, I'm Shadow4dark. I wanted to let you know that one or more external links you added to Hearts of Iron IV have been removed because they seemed to be inappropriate for an encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page, or take a look at our guidelines about links. Thank you. Shadow4dark (talk) 06:10, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello, Shadow4dark. Could you maybe explain the problem more in detail? Is it because the name of the website is "top.gg" which is also a link at the same time? Otherwise I don't see any problem with the addition of the Multiplayer section to the Hearts of Iron IV article. Top.gg is one of the biggest websites listing up discord servers and it's statistics are correct. AceCham3leon (talk) 07:01, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * i checked the "source" but the official Discord has more users. Shadow4dark (talk) 08:47, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * That's why I wrote "which is not owned by Paradox Interactive". The server I mentioned is a community server and the reason for mentioning it was to show the organization and dedication of the community. It also says that u removed the part I added because you considered it "rv spam". That's simply not the case. If you look at the German Hearts Of Iron IV article you will see that selected YouTubers are mentioned in one of the sections. This isn't considered "rv spam" so why would mentioning the biggest community HOI4 server be considered as "rv spam"? Also just because somebody writes an article about a game this "source" isn't more of a "source" than a website ranking the current most popular discord servers. AceCham3leon (talk) 16:18, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * It actually is more of a source, by Wikipedia standards. "Reliable source" has a specific meaning on Wikipedia. AntiDionysius (talk) 23:30, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Serious question. Why do you keep sabotating the Hearts Of Iron IV article? I'm just writing down the history of the community. I'm not advertising any stuff otherwise mentioning celebrities, YouTubers or anything else would also be considered advertisement but by mentioning them we are just honoring their achievements and I'm doing the same. AceCham3leon (talk) 23:25, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Please see our policy on Assuming Good Faith; someone reverting your edits does not constitute "sabotage". They have a different view on the most appropriate way for the article to look and/or the application of Wikipedia policies; even if they were incorrect about these things, it wouldn't therefore be an act of malice or deliberate vandalism. AntiDionysius (talk) 23:32, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * "Sabotating" was probably the wrong. Still, if you're a gamer like me one should understand that the gaming community can be very toxic and that it's not easy to find "civil" places that allow you to find normal and nice people to play with. While he might see my entry as advertisement (which isn't the case) it is simply a helpful addition to the article in order to provide the Hearts Of Iron IV community with useful information about their community. This community also includes Discord servers, blogs, forums, etc. . By removing my additions Shadow4dark is also hurting / "sabotating" the Hearts Of Iron IV community and its achievements. AceCham3leon (talk) 00:16, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Hearts of Iron IV, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. AntiDionysius (talk) 23:29, 5 February 2024 (UTC)


 * You words are actually contradicting your actions. While you say that my source isn't reliable you are still leaving a part of my addition in the entry which basically means that you see the source as "reliable". Otherwise you would have to delete the rest as well. Seeing that action proves that you see the last part as "advertisement" which, as I've explained before, is not the case. In fact it can't be when looking at other entries with YouTubers, Influencers, etc. named in it. AceCham3leon (talk) 00:32, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:FANSITE. Outside of very rare situations, fansites aren't mentioned or linked on Wikipedia.  It's considered promotional editing and not appropriate.  Ravensfire  (talk) 05:14, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * So if an article or a YouTube video about the official Discord server and the non-official Discord server should exist, would it still be considered "Fansite"? I've seen YouTubers being mentioned and YouTube sources being used. This could also be seen as "Fansite". AceCham3leon (talk) 11:51, 6 February 2024 (UTC)