User talk:Achowat/Archive 3

E-class Melbourne tram
Hi there,

I've responded to the tags you placed on E-class Melbourne tram at Talk:E-class Melbourne tram. Liamdavies (talk) 14:04, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

RE: Barnaster
Awwww thanks :) First one I have been awared. Mr  little  irish  13:58, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Speading WikiLove is important. It helps editors know that they're doing a good job. From a cookie or a smile to a Barnstar, everyone should know that they're being useful to the Project. Just remember that it is far more important to give than to receive. Keep up the good work. -Achowat (talk) 14:17, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

stub tag placement
Hi, Please remember to put any stub tags after everything except inter-language links - see WP:FOOTERS. If you put them in the wrong place it makes it more difficult for stub-sorters to find them, and causes them work in moving them. Thanks. Pam D  23:35, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Noted, thank you. -Achowat (talk) 13:08, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for the COI warning for the user-what tipped you off?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:16, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * A comment on your Talk very clearly of the format "I work for (the subject of the article) and therefore my word is far more important than Reliable, Second-Party Sources". He's probably right, as it turns out, but it is always more important to err on the side of caution when it comes to COI. On a personal note, the billion-dollar multinational corporation I work for was recently featured pretty heavily in the Boston Globe. But I'm not touching that article with a Ten Foot Pole (and yes, I mean the linked punk band). -Achowat (talk) 13:23, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

RE: Speedy
I did not create Camilla Lackberg: Ice Princess.. I don't know how I got a note from you. → εϻαd ιν  ΤαΙk Ͼδητrιβμτιoης 19:51, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * My fullest apologies. Too many Tabs Open at One Time-itis, more than likely. Achowat (talk) 19:58, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I understand. It's OK. Why not use Huggle or Twinkle to automatically warn users (CSD) after tagging? → εϻαd ιν  ΤαΙk Ͼδητrιβμτιoης 20:10, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The real answer? I'm editing at work. -Achowat (talk) 20:07, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * No problems. I understand. → εϻαd ιν  ΤαΙk Ͼδητrιβμτιoης 20:10, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * New laptop should be in my hands over the weekend. I'll be so more efficient when that happens. -Achowat (talk) 20:13, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Kulp (band)
Hello Achowat. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Kulp (band), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: there is non trivial coverage in what seems to be an independent reliable source: http://www.aksam.com.tr/en-akademik-grup-kulp--64955h.html. Thank you. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 23:13, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thanks for the barnstar! Happy holidays! WesleyDodds (talk) 01:31, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * We do a generally poor job recognizing gnomish work. Just keep doing what you're doing! -Achowat (talk) 18:58, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Garrett Lisi
I would like to mention that I'm trying to get a reasonable and NPOV version of Antony Garrett Lisi's page, that currently has been under censorship from User SherryNugil that does not want to include the current status of the Lisi's theory and that wants to keep all the articles and interviews and tv appearances and blog entries and forum discussions about Lisi. Not even for Nobel Prize Laureates there is such a complete list. I am also reporting that user for several reasons and it would be good if you could participate to the discussion giving your opinion, given that in the past you contributed to that page. Look at the discussion page for the last happenings. 24.7.128.58 (talk) 16:14, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

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Sylvia Browne
Wait, you're gonna talk to me about being unbiased with info about Sylvia Browne?

If you're content with having an only semi-accurate, and frankly, flagrantly hateful page about Ms. Browne, then maybe you don't belong on Wikipedia yourself. Talk
 * You're clearly an adherent to Ms. Browne's theories, and that is fine. I edit articles about my beliefs, but I make sure I do it within the guidelines of WP:COI. Now, as to what you had actually posted, it was reverted for a few reasons:


 * 1) You removed cited content simply because you disagreed with them. WP:NPOV requires us, as editors, to publish what is reported by reliable, secondary sources. That was what was in the article, and you removed it.
 * 2) You changed the phrases "She claimed to have visions" to "She had visions". While it is possible that this actually occurred, it is not verifiable and therefore we must only report the verifiable claim.
 * 3) You replaced an indication that "Novus Spiritus refers to itself as Gnostic Gnostic" to read "Novus Spiritus is Gnostic Christian" (emphasis, mine. While this is probably unduely Weasel-y, the reason the current form is preferred to your proposed form is because it is hard to nail down one definition for Gnosticism, and as such, we are left to simply report the verifiable claim.

I hope this helps you understand why I reverted your edits and how you can work under the current Wikipedia Framework to improve articles. Thank you, Achowat (talk) 21:45, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't quote rules to me that you're not abiding by yourself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.107.153.120 (talk) 22:02, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * If you'd like to have a firm, frank discussion on the issue I've posed, feel free. Wikipedia is built on consensus and part of that is calmly explaining your 'side of the story' to others so that you can get them to agree with you. If you'd just like to say "I'm right, and you're wrong" be my guest (though I doubt the Admins will be so accommodating) but that will never help you build consensus. Also, please sign posts on this, and all other talk pages, by simply typing ~ at the end of your post. Cheers! Achowat (talk) 22:07, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

BoSox star

 * Thank you, just doing what I could do with the information I was given. (BTW, I went ahead and cleaned up the formatting of your template). Again, thank you. Achowat (talk) 22:55, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

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Quasar Barnstar
I think the parameters are set. Can we proceed... or how do we proceed... from here? Please, drop me a line on my talk page. Djathink imacowboy  (yell)  06:29, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I guess I don't understand the nature of your question. Achowat (talk) 12:59, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * It's OK. I agree with your ideas, I like the set-up. What I was wondering about was why the Quasar is not like a normal, readily available Barnstar and how we could change that. But I am happy and grateful that we settled the main thing and the ribbon issue. Cheers. Djathink imacowboy  (yell)  01:51, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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Mind telling me why I was not notified of this discussion? The star was conceived, designed and introduced by me with great help from benzband. You are the best qualified to handle all this, but I wish I had been kept informed too. I feel as if I had been cut. Djathink imacowboy  (yell)  04:39, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Cheers for all the work, and of course one musn't forget :  benzband  ( talk ) 09:20, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. Glad to help! Achowat (talk) 23:13, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

It is a privilege...

 * As above, thank you very much. I was glad to put my skills to good work. Achowat (talk) 23:13, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

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In overdue recognition of your super civility
10,000 thanks for your kind words. Achowat (talk) 17:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)